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Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Tranquill: 12:31am On Jul 27, 2020 |
iamfrankoben: My family migrated from Benin - C C Onoh's son and in-law to Ojukwu. Read. https://punchng.com/dad-dodged-security-boarded-bus-govt-house-c-c-onohs-son/ |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Tranquill: 12:33am On Jul 27, 2020 |
iamfrankoben: Tell that to the Onoh family and Ngwo people My family migrated from Benin - C C Onoh's son and in-law to Ojukwu. Read. https://punchng.com/dad-dodged-security-boarded-bus-govt-house-c-c-onohs-son/ |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by gregyboy(m): 12:36am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Sanity33: Nor mind dem na we benin give d yoruba people leg wen dem come dey use dey play dem don sabotage our history finish, sotey d tin over us, if nor be say oyibo write our history down we for nor get mouth to talk our history for were Yoruba people dey 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by iamfrankoben: 12:46am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Bkayyy:My brother imagine little Ikwerre wey no reach Ibibio.. Ohanaeze ndigbo should expel Ikwerre.. The Day Biafra comes, we're leaving Ikwerre Behind, let them build a country with their 3 Local Governments 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by iamfrankoben: 12:48am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Tranquill:My brother Ikwerre should answer Ikwerre names and speak Ikwerre language, they should leave igbo alone for us, we don't want prodigal sons 1 Like |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 1:01am On Jul 27, 2020 |
macof: Which one is hereditary: 1) ooni 2) alafin Answer: none of the above ! Obviously the writer is not referring to your ooni nor your alafin. Each town has its semi autonomous chief: that sounds like your ooni of ife, s demi autonomous chief ! As the writer claims, the only real King is the Hereditary one. Who may that be ? Hint: the yorubas are among the subjects of the king, but the king is not a Yoruba and he lives in a city and his title is Oba. 1 Like
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Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Igboid: 1:16am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Tranquill: Ngwo people have no history of Bini migration. And they never claimed to be Bini people. 6 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 1:28am On Jul 27, 2020 |
dederocs:Please stop letting some old wives fairytale and tales by moonlight becloud your senses of reasoning and judgement. Logic as obtained in the Set theory will inform you that a subset can never be greater than the Universal set. How a tiny Benin Kingdom of some few LGA's begat a Yoruba Kingdom that transcend nations (Benin Republic, Togo, Brazil, Haiti etc) and continents can only be explained by drunks. How the so called child seems to have so much influence over the father without an iota of influence on the child should be a mystery. You bear Yoruba ancestral names like Ajayi, Ojo, Alao, Alabi etc, you practice the age-long Yoruba elders cult (Ogboni) and still you're claiming one yeye fatherhood, please...lol 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 1:29am On Jul 27, 2020 |
PVision2020:You need to take a look at precolonial maps before you bury yourself with delusion. precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom: Some of the maps: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2 http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2 An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2 An other map of Benin from the 17th century: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0 This one date to the 19th century: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b846939 The fact yorubas are credited for bringing cultism into Nigeria is lost on nobody, your cult tries to infiltrate us and it is failing. The name thing again. This is getting annoying: 1) Edo us a Japanese word 2) Edo is a Benin word 3) Osa is a Japanese word 4) Osa is an Edo word Did the Japanese borrow words from the Edo ? 2 Likes
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Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Tranquill: 1:29am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Igboid: So the history of the Onohs as told by Bianca Ojukwu's brother is not true? |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by ContractKiller: 1:31am On Jul 27, 2020 |
The hypothesis of Benin as the origin of yorubas makes more sense than the nonsense pseudo history of Mecca being the homeland of yorubas. PVision2020: 1 Like |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 1:34am On Jul 27, 2020 |
ContractKiller: It is not a hypothesis, it is proven by maps made by visitors in the précolonial era and also by precolonial texts. But these yoruba will just not accept fact. Also, a bunch of the Yoruba descend from freed slaves dumped on our shores by the british and other European countries. 1 Like
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Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 1:48am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Sanity33:Stop running around in cycle, the ignorant one here is you. You first claim Yorubas adopted the word Oba in the 1930's, I gave you evidence of Oba being used by Ajayi Crowther as far back as 1843 in the Yoruba translation of the KJV without a rebuttal from you. I presented simple logic any sane mind should understand you're here showing us some fabricated precolonial map. Who doesn't know that Maps aren't constant? Should I show you the old Oyo map that included Dahomey (Benin republic) Jebba and Lokoja right? Or the Biafran Map that included the whole core Niger delta? Or the Roman empire map that included about 1/3 of the world landmass? Please come up with something logical...please na beg I dey beg you. 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by msughdoo: 1:49am On Jul 27, 2020 |
lograr: You have no logical point to make, DUMBO! |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by lograr(m): 1:51am On Jul 27, 2020 |
msughdoo:From your topics you are clearly a bitcch |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by msughdoo: 1:54am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Mumu. You pick only Osa and Edo as examples between Japanese and Benin. Whereas, >90% of Ikwerre names are Igbo. All Linguistic experts state clearly that Ikwerre is an IGBOID Language. An uneducated folk like you thinks otherwise. Is there anywhere that they say Benin is a JAPANOID language? Of course not, because there is no relationship. An Igbo man can understand Ikwerre, but a Benin man HAS NO CLUE about Ikwerre Language, and you think you are making sense by saying you are linked to Benin and not to Igbo? Sanity33: 1 Like |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 1:58am On Jul 27, 2020 |
ContractKiller:Thank God you said hypothesis, not fact. You know a Dog giving birth to an Elephant can also make some comedic hypothesis...lol |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 2:01am On Jul 27, 2020 |
msughdoo:It seems you Igbo guys are having sleepless nights about the fact Ikwere have publicly acknowledged that they are Benin descendants. In your case you have lost your mind. Your comment has nothing to do with my comment to which you are supposedly replying. Ikwere are Benin descendants ! Choke over it ! |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 2:05am On Jul 27, 2020 |
PVision2020:Dude if you've got maps, I am not stopping you from posting. Actually I urge you to post them. Also your evidence from Crowther, I never saw it ! Do you care to post it rather than claim you did post it ? Dude, stop claiming you have this and that, just post the damn thing already ! |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Swtbabyvee(f): 2:14am On Jul 27, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin:Igbos like claiming every Igbo speaking part in Nigeria ,, is like saying because Canada and Australians speak English as a 1 language they are Britains , these Igbo dummy rush on any thread claiming either aniomas or ikwerre people . You don’t need to convince them on anything, they are in a dreamland in their heads, they can believe all they want to,,, we know who we are , they don’t . 2 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Swtbabyvee(f): 2:26am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Bendeco02:Anioma is sha not Igbo , as soon as I saw this thread I know some people go call anioma join the matter . 1 Like |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by ContractKiller: 2:33am On Jul 27, 2020 |
It's a hypothesis because most African tribal societies like the Yorubas, Edos, Igbos etc were illiterate and they never kept written historical chronicles so we can only make educated guesses when it comes to the issue of ancestry. A comedy hypothesis wouldn't be taken seriously in any academic or scholarly circles which is why the Out of Mecca hypothesis is not worth discussing by mainstream Historians. PVision2020: |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 2:34am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Sanity33:Lol...I won't go down the lane of posting irrelevant Maps to buttress my claim and derailing the thread, your maps shows nothing. Google is your friend if you need maps. There are millions of Yoruba Bible in print (and also soft/E-copies, you can lay your hand on any to confirm. What you should explain to all is how a Yoruba nation that occupies over 10 times the landmass of Bini with population over ten times that of Bini originates from a tiny Bini Kingdom of few LGA's. And also tell us why the Yoruba exert so much influence on the Bini without an iota of Benin influence on the Yoruba. While you're at that, please tell us the Bini meaning of the following Yoruba names you guys bears : Ajayi, Ojo, Olawole, Akerejola, Oladele, Olabisi, Ayo, Adetutu, Owolabi, Akerele, Ogun, Balogun, Kola, Taiwo, Idowu, Adepoju, Shola, Dada, Ajose, Shobowale, Alaba etc. And I'll be glad if you can tell us just ONE Yoruba person that bears a Bini name, just ONE. 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by OfoIgbo: 3:21am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Christistruth00: No I won't, because IJEBU is not an Igbo word and Oke Igbo people don't speak Igbo and ijebu-igbo people do not practice Igbo culture and Oke-Igbo people do not have IGWEs or EZEs as their traditional ruler's. RumuIgbo basically means IGBO PEOPLE and they practise Igbo culture and make use of EKE, ORIE, AFOR, NKWO market days owned by NRI people and not Bini people. They speak Igbo and are ruled by EZEs. As you can see, the difference is clear 3 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 4:49am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Some Yoruba people have been asking what Oba means in Edo. Well I have done my digging. It means king of kings. I have a text here written by a French visitor to Benin empire. The book was published in 1880. The information is on this text. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x/f58.item.r=Oba.zoom Oba doesn't mean king, it means king of kings and it is an Edo word. Areafada, Davidnazee, Gregyboy, Samuk. 2 Likes
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Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Nobody: 4:55am On Jul 27, 2020 |
PVision2020: You have no genuine map to show, why constantly pretending ? I called your bluff and as usual you turned out to be an empty barrel. |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Abagworo(m): 7:01am On Jul 27, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin: Ogba and Ekpeye are descendants of Akalaka for sure but not Ikwerre. Some Ikwerre villages in Emohua migrated from Ekpeye particularly the Wezina group and that's the only link to anything Benin just like few also migrated from Okrika and Kalabari. True origin of Ikwerre which is Okpo from Arochukwu who settled in Etche with his brothers before moving to bank of new Calabar river. The "Ogwaro" isn't Ewuare but Ezearo and the Bini isn't Benin but Ubini Ukpabi shrine in Arochukwu. You can tell perfectly both from settlement pattern, language and population distribution that the increase in population was supplied from Ngwa, Etche and Owerri areas North and East of Ikwerre not from West or South. 6 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by macof(m): 7:02am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Sanity33: Smh. Like I said you are a fool No utter of sense in anything that would still argue against a clear cut text like this www.nairaland.com/attachments/12005610_20200726_jpeg95b02612cd1e8c025f48b16bd392d5b2 So the "Yoruba Obbas" is the Omonoba of Benin? the Benin King is now Yoruba? 1. Obbas (plural) 2. Obbas being Yoruba All clearly stated but this fool is still arguing. You are a brick wall not a human being Empty head @ ;bold. Apparently this fool can't read either. Where did you see all this in this screenshot. FYI. Ooni and Aláàfin titles are hereditary. One can only ascend the throne by belonging to one of the designated royal families. Or your stupidity doesn't let you know what "hereditary" means? Sanity33: After showing this text www.nairaland.com/attachments/12005887_screenshot20200727015719_jpeg34573dc496a99140d0b80646f0258daf You still in a response to the text ask for a text from the era calling Yoruba by the title Ọba Smh. You better go and take your medication. Lmao. This text www.nairaland.com/attachments/12005768_screenshot20200727004421_jpeg1683a9e5f0d0cae537a56d75650e3263 Doesn't in any way imply Yorùbáland being under the authority of the Ọmọnọba of Benin "la Protection de l'oba d'oueni serait assez puisannte pour nous defendre dans le Yebou et le Yarribah" "the protection of the Ọmọnọba of Benin should be powerful enough to defend us in Ijebu and Oyo empire" Meaning that it is expected to be safe in a foreign country when under the protection of a known king of a neighbouring kingdom. In contrast "dans le Borghou et le Haoussa, e'etait moins sur, le roi de Benin n'y etant point assez connu our.." "the Ọmọnọba is not known well enough in Borgu or Hausa country to receive such protection" The text has nothing to do with authority but rather diplomacy And this www.nairaland.com/attachments/12005795_screenshot20200727005832_jpegbba6bd35f239ebc3abae763b01870c34 talks about the chief of Gato (Ughoton) and Omonoba of benin hosting a certain Adam, a trader by giving him security from Benin to Ughoton 5 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 7:10am On Jul 27, 2020 |
macof:Arguing further with that guy is a waste of time and intellectual capacity. He's a troll without substance. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by macof(m): 7:28am On Jul 27, 2020 |
PVision2020: I am well aware of his intellectual and psychological problems. He opens new accounts here every week after being embarrassed with the last one @inSanity33 get ready to delete this moniker too 2 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by 900winer(m): 7:30am On Jul 27, 2020 |
ContractKiller:I think you are the one saying nonsense here, who are the benin? From where do they come from? The stupid Mecca Yoruba origin was mainly among the Sarki muslims in Oyo state so it useless. 4 Likes |
Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by PVision2020(m): 7:32am On Jul 27, 2020 |
macof:Lol, the guy's insanity is too unique it can only be inherited. 1 Like |
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