ubunja:

Okay, what I'm going to say will have many variables and question marks and holes,, but I'm just putting it out there to give a general idea of things. It must not be taken as a complete, ironclad theory or set of principles.

Bro you're on point on this.

Never invest in a woman because you're just improving her SMV (sexual market value). Which will activate her hypergamy. Keep her where you found her and use your money in such a way that if she disconnects from you and goes, she'll find herself where you found her.

There's a huge difference between marrying a beautiful woman whose hair, nails and makeup are top notch AND marrying a plain woman then making her beautiful with good hair, nails and makeup. The first is you getting what you deserve or can afford. While the second is you INVESTING in a woman - Which is what men must avoid. You can use your money to maintain a slay queen. But if you find an average girl and turn her into a slay queen then you're investing in her. Which will backfire spectacularly, Because after you're done with her, her SMV will be higher than when she started, which means she's now considering you BELOW HER - nevermind you yourself improved her said SMV.

Investing in a woman includes things improving a woman's education, helping her start her own business (which will inevitably lead to her independence from you) etc. You must keep her dependent. Supply her needs and wants without putting her in a position where she can replace you. She must not own anything but be happy. (Hard but not impossible) . You must be her provider, not investor. You can very well give a woman a good life, a nice home, fun trips and good experiences without investing in her. But just showing her how much you love her.

Pïmps mastered this game ages ago. They keep all the money but make sure their women get the best of anything - the best accommodation, the best food and the best outfits. The women get everything they ask for - except for cold hard cash. That's always a no. These pïmps even do the shopping on behalf of their women to stay ahead of the game. Cause give a woman cash, no matter how little - she'll find a way to grow it. It's their gift. Pïmps prevent this and keep cash away from women.

This may seem unfair, cruel or extreme in this day and age; but women do play the same game with men as regards to sex. A Woman always keeps a man dependent and relying on her and her alone for sex. A man is not allowed to even masturbate. If a married man services himself you'll hear all the wailings from women shaming him and demanding to know if his wife is not enough for him!! He'll be Condemned for destroying his wife's self-esteem and confidence. He must always get his sex from the wife. If she's not in the mood, he must wait for her. Not go elsewhere. Not even to a prostitute.

Now, because women are masters of the game, they monopolized the sex and also monopolized men's money:
Did not our elders, fathers and uncles hand over their own hard-earned money to their women, the WOMEN who would then give the men money bit by bit on a daily basis as the needs arise, eg every morning he's given transport money and every weekend he's given beer money. This was the norm a few generations ago in many places. This is how cunning women have been. Pïmps merely give women a taste of their own medicine - with brilliant results. It needs be that men start looking closely at how those flesh peddlers mastered women.

But many men are intent on achieving women's growth. They'll take a woman from the bottom and keep pouring money into her growth until she outgrows him. Then she leaves. Men are out here educating their wives, getting their women plastic surgery, buying investments and the like. Which is foolish.
All that money and effort and even plastic surgery must have been for themselves. For the men. To keep their own SMV ever so high. And yes I said it, men must not shy away from plastic surgery. If you've something about your face that you don't like, save money and go get it fixed. Leave the scratches and scars, they add to your masculine beauty. But that nose, that eye, those ears - get them fixed if you ain't happy. Same goes for teeth: if yours are discolored, go whiten them. If they're crooked, consider investing in braces to straighten them. If a front tooth is missing, move heaven and earth to replace it. All this may sound all too shallow and even feminine... But it will pay dividends. Cause combine this with the body game (gym) and you're an Adonis. women will come. And you won't be invested in any of them because you invested, instead, in yourself.

ObinnaValentine:
Weda they like it or not..this message we passing dem must hear am

I go open another thread called ''VIBES AND MASCULINITY''

Only difference is humour will be added

Gradually getting attention from my fb stories for posts on here

Lightway:

Martiñez39s,  CaveAdùllam, Ubuñja. What's your response to this? 

Labadi69:


What inexperienced boys like you don’t know is that many husbands are aware but really don’t care.
Infact they are happy that their wives are doing their own runs as it removes the guilt in their minds when they are with side chicks.

It’s not easy and natural to be young with strong libido and stay faithful with one partner for eternity. No matter what anyone says. Humans weren’t made that way.

Marriage only works well for older couples that have done all the nacking they desire in their younger years and then decide to settle down in old age to care for themselves and not be lonely in old age. By then, sexual desire is dead and they just become best of friends until they die.

Aaron12:
Exactly that's why men need to be careful around married women.

heartofcity12:


Inexperienced indeed

MJBOLT:

that person na troll

viktor88:

I won't be that guy.

MJBOLT:

Ovo200:
I believe one day the red pill will become mainstream and we shall see feminism crumble in our time. We shall build boys to become hard in order not to fall into the trap of feminism.

heartofcity12:
From the horse’s mouth.

Ovo200:
If you are still in doubt about the efficacy of the red pills just take a look and see the time the troll is trolling. How can a sane human wake up so early to troll? no meditation, no prayer just woke up early in the morning to spew rubbish. I believe one day the red pill will become mainstream and we shall see feminism crumble in our time. We shall build boys to become hard in order not to fall into the trap of feminism.

luminouz:


K

Martinez39s:
Since you asked,

Martinez39s:
Since you asked, I will answer. I hope it is not too late. This is my take on YOUR POST.

There is an adage "men love ideally, women love opportunistically." Men have the capacity to fall in love in its true and ideal sense, and they do fall in love. As a wise mathematician once put it, and I concur, "to love is to be delighted by the happiness of someone, or to experience pleasure upon the happiness of another. I define this as true love." I will also add that the evidence and language of true love are sacrifices; the greater your love is for a person, the more you are willing to make sacrifices for that person. All these and great solicitude have men showered on women for generations.

On the other hand, women don't have this capacity towards men; nature formed them differently. Don't let any man or woman beguile you into thinking otherwise. Women only romantically associate with you based what they can benefit from you and how you make them feel, they are unapologetically all about their best interests. Your past sacrifices mean absolutely nothing, and they will readily jump on to a better, available option or leave when you have totally outlived your usefulness to them; even if you had donated a kidney or lost an arm for your spouse (gf, wife, etc), this is still valid. Female nature sees men as expendable utilises. Many men don't know this since they are blue pill folks. Mutual true love that men think they have in their relationships are only in their heads; the mutual true love is blue pill lie. The inherent capacity for true love in men doesn't exist from a woman's end. Women are fully aware of this and they don't usually reveal this for obvious reasons, hence such blue pill lie is only swallowed by men.



Sometimes, when you see a man training a woman in school or providing for his girlfriend in prodigious amounts, it is not necessarily because of pùssy. Some of these things are done genuinely out of love and care, out of kindness of heart. True love wants to see the beloved happy, prosperous and growing. Most redpillers have been in this boat before during their blue pill years. Regardless of why a blue pill man chooses a woman for committed relationships, his capacity for true love will assert itself in many instances. I am not saying men don't do simpish stuff and display all sorts of foolery just to get laid; obviously that biological urge for sex has put a lot of men in trouble and embarrassing situations. Nevertheless, observation and experience show that men do love in its true sense.

The problem is that the blue pill and the ignorance of the red pill do a great job from birth in hijacking and preying upon this inherent capacity and our biological urges in order to lead us to blue pill fantasies and unrealistic goals and expectations, I CAN EXPLAIN FURTHER IF YOU WANT. These fantasies and delusions exist but they do not invalidate that men do genuinely love.

Lightway:


I will like you to explain it further, but I'll also reply to this.

Men do not fall in love.

A man that trains a girl through school has money. He goes for a girl that is below his status and tries to build her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as a provider. The man that does this chooses an average girl and tries to build her not because of love, but because he sees himself as the provider and doing so will make the girl loyal to him. That is what he thinks, but women are smarter.

You talk about sacrifices. There is a story of a girl that killed herself after she found out that the boy she set up a business for was cheating= on her. This was a young girl of 23. Since you say women love opportunistically, why would a woman spend her all to make a man happy to the point that the man cheating on her caused her to kill herself. This means that she was in love. But Redpill says that women don't fall in love.

The truth is that she fell for a bad boy and wanted to make him happy. He gave her the feeling of love, the fantasy of it (because love does not exist). The same way a man wants to sacrifice for a woman to make her happy. When a man sees a woman smile after he provides for her, he will be glad. That is not love. The man sees himself as the provider and providing for his girl gives him value. That's how men see themselves and that's why they are ready to sacrifice for women.

There is a story on nairaland of a guy that is struggling, but still providing for his girlfriend who is in school. The same man is still in school and sacrificing to feed her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as the provider. This is not love.

Providing for a woman and seeing her happy, makes a man happy. He thinks that providing for a woman is how he shows his love.

Ask a man to show love to a woman without providing for a woman and he can't. That's why you see men wail when a woman breaks their heart. That after all he spent on her. It is always after all he has spent

Men see themselves as providers and believe that by providing for a woman, they are showing love and hope that the woman will love them back.

Take note, these men hope that the women love them back. These men are also average with low self esteem and their money is their confidence. That's why you see them spending heavily on women that don't value them. It is one reason I love bad boys. They make women feel great without spending a dime These bad boys know that what men call love, is a fool's dream. It is the fantasy of love from Hollywood.

You hardly see a man that loves a women but won't spend heavily on her. In a man's mind, spending on her is how he shows his love. Which is just a fantasy in this generation. The world of old required men to be providers and protectors but never said that, "This is how a man loves a woman". The same way our grandfathers never used the word "love". In fact, many languages like Igbo don't have a word for "love".

Men don't love women. Blue-pilled men that spend on women have low-self esteem and think that by providing for a woman is the only way they can feel worthy. A woman is born with pussy, soft breasts, and a delicious mouth that can do wonders on your dick. A woman can give you kids, cook great food, and take care of your family. What does this blue-pilled man have? Nothing, so he gets money and assumes his provider position. Spending on this woman, hoping that she will give him (love) back. But women are not so straightforward.

There was a story posted here by a nairalander of his ex-girlfriend who he turned into his FWB and sleeps with her. He said she came for a round of sex and she told him of the four guys she is dating. These men are sending her money claiming they love her. One called her and talked about sex starvation but she shouted at him and he begged her. According to the poster, the girl is average in looks and curves

You can see that, this man is sacrificing his money for this girl and that's not because of love. The man chose this average girl because he has low self esteem and doesn't think that the high-class girls will want him. Those beautiful girls are being chased by guys with Range Rovers and Benz, so he is not close to their league. He goes for the average girl and tries to entice her with money. But since AWALT, she can see through his low self esteem.

When it comes to marriage, it is almost the same. Nowadays, men have fantasies of marriage rather than the reality. Men dream of playing with their kids, helping their wives with the dishes, and all that shit they see on TV. They think that, this is love. That's how love works. The reason they do this is because they believe that by making her happy, helping her out, she will love him or care for him which is not the case because women don't think that way.

I can go on and on with many examples of how a man's mind works. A man will look for an average girl to date or marry so that he can assume his provider position. This is why you see a girl will be rude to a guy but he will still go ahead to provide for her. Not just because he sees himself as a provider but also because he has low self esteem and feels worthless if he can't help his girl. He is also being drawn by his need for sex. He invests in her and can't pull out anymore. Women are smart.

Men don't love ideally. I deeply respect women because they're becoming smarter than men. They are seeing through a man's self esteem and a man's constant need to prove himself. A man wants to always show a woman that he can provide for her and he also wants sex. A woman doesn't want all men based on her preferences but she can take advantage of his urges to be a provider and need for sex and use it to enrich herself. Just like Mercy, Tasha, Erica, Nengi, Destiny Eitko, Tiwa Savage, Maria, Tonto Dikeh, Mercy Aigbe

Men need to understand that they are fooling themselves thinking that they love women. Love is just a word created from English language to make life look beautiful.

Smartb0y:


A simple "k" always does the trick

Lightway:


I will like you to explain it further, but I'll also reply to this.

Men do not fall in love.

A man that trains a girl through school has money. He goes for a girl that is below his status and tries to build her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as a provider. The man that does this chooses an average girl and tries to build her not because of love, but because he sees himself as the provider and doing so will make the girl loyal to him. That is what he thinks, but women are smarter.

You talk about sacrifices. There is a story of a girl that killed herself after she found out that the boy she set up a business for was cheating= on her. This was a young girl of 23. Since you say women love opportunistically, why would a woman spend her all to make a man happy to the point that the man cheating on her caused her to kill herself. This means that she was in love. But Redpill says that women don't fall in love.

The truth is that she fell for a bad boy and wanted to make him happy. He gave her the feeling of love, the fantasy of it (because love does not exist). The same way a man wants to sacrifice for a woman to make her happy. When a man sees a woman smile after he provides for her, he will be glad. That is not love. The man sees himself as the provider and providing for his girl gives him value. That's how men see themselves and that's why they are ready to sacrifice for women.

There is a story on nairaland of a guy that is struggling, but still providing for his girlfriend who is in school. The same man is still in school and sacrificing to feed her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as the provider. This is not love.

Providing for a woman and seeing her happy, makes a man happy. He thinks that providing for a woman is how he shows his love.

Ask a man to show love to a woman without providing for a woman and he can't. That's why you see men wail when a woman breaks their heart. That after all he spent on her. It is always after all he has spent

Men see themselves as providers and believe that by providing for a woman, they are showing love and hope that the woman will love them back.

Take note, these men hope that the women love them back. These men are also average with low self esteem and their money is their confidence. That's why you see them spending heavily on women that don't value them. It is one reason I love bad boys. They make women feel great without spending a dime These bad boys know that what men call love, is a fool's dream. It is the fantasy of love from Hollywood.

You hardly see a man that loves a women but won't spend heavily on her. In a man's mind, spending on her is how he shows his love. Which is just a fantasy in this generation. The world of old required men to be providers and protectors but never said that, "This is how a man loves a woman". The same way our grandfathers never used the word "love". In fact, many languages like Igbo don't have a word for "love".

Men don't love women. Blue-pilled men that spend on women have low-self esteem and think that by providing for a woman is the only way they can feel worthy. A woman is born with pussy, soft breasts, and a delicious mouth that can do wonders on your dick. A woman can give you kids, cook great food, and take care of your family. What does this blue-pilled man have? Nothing, so he gets money and assumes his provider position. Spending on this woman, hoping that she will give him (love) back. But women are not so straightforward.

There was a story posted here by a nairalander of his ex-girlfriend who he turned into his FWB and sleeps with her. He said she came for a round of sex and she told him of the four guys she is dating. These men are sending her money claiming they love her. One called her and talked about sex starvation but she shouted at him and he begged her. According to the poster, the girl is average in looks and curves

You can see that, this man is sacrificing his money for this girl and that's not because of love. The man chose this average girl because he has low self esteem and doesn't think that the high-class girls will want him. Those beautiful girls are being chased by guys with Range Rovers and Benz, so he is not close to their league. He goes for the average girl and tries to entice her with money. But since AWALT, she can see through his low self esteem.

When it comes to marriage, it is almost the same. Nowadays, men have fantasies of marriage rather than the reality. Men dream of playing with their kids, helping their wives with the dishes, and all that shit they see on TV. They think that, this is love. That's how love works. The reason they do this is because they believe that by making her happy, helping her out, she will love him or care for him which is not the case because women don't think that way.

I can go on and on with many examples of how a man's mind works. A man will look for an average girl to date or marry so that he can assume his provider position. This is why you see a girl will be rude to a guy but he will still go ahead to provide for her. Not just because he sees himself as a provider but also because he has low self esteem and feels worthless if he can't help his girl. He is also being drawn by his need for sex. He invests in her and can't pull out anymore. Women are smart.

Men don't love ideally. I deeply respect women because they're becoming smarter than men. They are seeing through a man's self esteem and a man's constant need to prove himself. A man wants to always show a woman that he can provide for her and he also wants sex. A woman doesn't want all men based on her preferences but she can take advantage of his urges to be a provider and need for sex and use it to enrich herself. Just like Mercy, Tasha, Erica, Nengi, Destiny Eitko, Tiwa Savage, Maria, Tonto Dikeh, Mercy Aigbe

Men need to understand that they are fooling themselves thinking that they love women. Love is just a word created from English language to make life look beautiful.

Smartb0y:


He's not ready yet, When's he's ready,he'll know what to do

Princeadebayo11:

I have started from the beginning, but I found out that some comments are just distracting the main topic, that was where I am always pissed off

Lightway:
I will like you to explain it further, but I'll also reply to this.

Men do not fall in love.

A man that trains a girl through school has money. He goes for a girl that is below his status and tries to build her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as a provider. The man that does this chooses an average girl and tries to build her not because of love, but because he sees himself as the provider and doing so will make the girl loyal to him. That is what he thinks, but women are smarter.

You talk about sacrifices. There is a story of a girl that killed herself after she found out that the boy she set up a business for was cheating= on her. This was a young girl of 23.  Since you say women love opportunistically, why would a woman spend her all to make a man happy to the point that the man cheating on her caused her to kill herself. This means that she was in love. But Redpill says that women don't fall in love.
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There is a story on nairaland of a guy that is struggling, but still providing for his girlfriend who is in school. The same man is still in school and sacrificing to feed her. Why does he do this? Because he sees himself as the provider. This is not love.

Providing for a woman and seeing her happy, makes a man happy. He thinks that providing for a woman is how he shows his love.

Ask a man to show love to a woman without providing for a woman and he can't. That's why you see men wail when a woman breaks their heart. That after all he spent on her. It is always after all he has spent

Men see themselves as providers and believe that by providing for a woman, they are showing love and hope that the woman will love them back.

Take note, these men hope that the women love them back. These men are also average with low self esteem and their money is their confidence. That's why you see them spending heavily on women that don't value them. It is one reason I love bad boys. They make women feel great without spending a dime These bad boys know that what men call love, is a fool's dream. It is the fantasy of love from Hollywood. 

You hardly see a man that loves a women but won't spend heavily on her. In a man's mind, spending on her is how he shows his love. Which is just a fantasy in this generation. The world of old required men to be providers and protectors but never said that, "This is how a man loves a woman". The same way our grandfathers never used the word "love". In fact, many languages like Igbo don't have a word for "love". 

Men don't love women. Blue-pilled men that spend on women have low-self esteem and think that by providing for a woman is the only way they can feel worthy. A woman is born with pussy, soft breasts, and a delicious mouth that can do wonders on your dick. A woman can give you kids, cook great food, and take care of your family. What does this blue-pilled man have? Nothing, so he gets money and assumes his provider position. Spending on this woman, hoping that she will give him (love) back. But women are not so straightforward.

There was a story posted here by a nairalander of his ex-girlfriend who he turned into his FWB and sleeps with her. He said she came for a round of sex and she told him of the four guys she is dating. These men are sending her money claiming they love her. One called her and talked about sex starvation but she shouted at him and he begged her. According to the poster, the girl is average in looks and curves

You can see that, this man is sacrificing his money for this girl and that's not  because of love. The man chose this average girl because he has low self esteem and doesn't think that the high-class girls will want him. Those beautiful girls are being chased by guys with Range Rovers and Benz, so he is not close to their league. He goes for the average girl and tries to entice her with money. But since AWALT, she can see through his low self esteem.

When it comes to marriage, it is almost the same. Nowadays, men have fantasies of marriage rather than the reality. Men dream of playing with their kids, helping their wives with the dishes, and all that shit they see on TV. They think that, this is love. That's how love works. The reason they do this is because they believe that by making her happy, helping her out, she will love him or care for him which is not the case because women don't think that way.

I can go on and on with many examples of how a man's mind works.  A man will look for an average girl to date or marry so that he can assume his provider position. This is why you see a girl will be rude to a guy but he will still go ahead to provide for her. Not just because he sees himself as a provider but also because he has low self esteem and feels worthless if he can't help his girl. He is also being drawn by his need for sex. He invests in her and can't pull out anymore. Women are smart.

Men don't love ideally. I deeply respect women because they're becoming smarter than men. They are seeing through a man's self esteem and a man's constant need to prove himself. A man wants to always show a woman that he can provide for her and he also wants sex. A woman doesn't want all men based on her preferences but she can take advantage of his urges to be a provider and need for sex and use it to enrich herself. Just like Mercy, Tasha, Erica, Nengi, Destiny Eitko, Tiwa Savage, Maria, Tonto Dikeh, Mercy Aigbe

Men need to understand that they are fooling themselves thinking that they love women. Love is just a word created from English language to make life look beautiful.

Lightway:
Hello Guys, Good Morning and a Happy Sunday to you all.

I don't know how concise i can be, but I will try.

I just graduated last 3 months, with my girlfriend who's now my ex, and she's 26yrs of age while I'm 28yr.

We started dating from our 200level till yesterday, (that's approximately 4yrs and counting...).
We were ideal together, we were well known in school, to an extent where her friends and mine kept asking how? And wishing theirs was like ours..

She promised never to leave, and she please everyday that I should never hurt her. At times we jokingly talked about our future kids which is now a never happening fable.

So after we graduated, she travelled to stay with her aunt, we do check on each other everyday.

Last month.. She called, and said her friend needs an advice, that she and her date just graduated, and that another man is asking her out, and she's thinking of dumping her guy since he's not ready, and that the newly known man is ready to pay for her marriage rites.
Immediately I knew she was the one in the story, because I already had several dreams were she left me. I pretended, I told her to tell her friend to "Follow Her Heart".

Last night she called, and said there's something she wants to tell me, I responded, "Is it what I already know?", she asked what? I told her she's getting married soon, and she said yes! I was speechless. I asked her for how long has this been going on, she said it started when she came to stay with her Aunt. We spoke, and I congratulated her, she started crying, I ended the call, sent her a good luck text.

This morning, she called and said she couldn't sleep last night. I asked her why she did it, why she decided to get married, she said she doesn't know. I asked if she likes the guy, she said yes. She couldn't stop crying and was saying I shouldn't leave her, while she's the one leaving me. I was totally down, but I have crazy friends. I WhatsApp a friend, told him what just happened, his words boosted me up. He said, " Support her, we move, no be God leave you". That was enough, but it's hard, really hard to move on without her, and she said the same thing and kept pleading I shouldn't leave her.

Now I'm asking, if I was the one who had left, what would have been the story? That I used her and dumped her, because this has always been used against the guys.
Why are women in a rush to marry? They don't even add value to themselves, I'm now 80% in agreement that marriage is one of the greatest achievement for a woman, maybe in Nigeria.