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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by blackgold90(m): 4:30pm On Aug 21, 2020
asamaigho:

now i undertand where u are coming from.
but forgot to mention dat police station was burnt in kastina because ncdc officials tried to stop a jumat service during lockdown.
u forgot ti mention dat muslim terrorist attacked christain communities during lockdown. but u where very apt to say oyedepo didnot comply for d 1st week. dats hypocrity.
2ndly oyedepos billions i non of ur business, he has various companies and even d best schools in nigeria aswell.
leave d church to choose their leaders as it is non of govt business abi is it d govt dat chooses rev father, bishop and popes for d catholic church?.
your hypocrity is mind blowing.


A man of God should keep by the law of the land, he should have obey the law. That someone killed some don't make us to kill too or that some one break law should not make him to break the law.

The billions that Pastor oyedepo, adeboye, oyakilome, Suleiman, plus others has are offering offered to God but in trust Under these pastors which they are lavishing and making billionaire of themselves.Fela captured all these in one of his popular song.

As popular as the Pope he is not as rich as any of these pastors because the Holy see is not under one individual control and other church should emulate that.

You fail to reply to the transfer of the church wealth by these pastor to their children when they are no more.

I repeat they should be controlled to stop embarrassing situation to every one.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CoolAmbience(m): 5:19pm On Aug 21, 2020
israelp:
who ur govtm epp?


Government dey help many people, including you.

If nor be government brilliant rice revolution, Nigerians for see something for this corona era.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 5:20pm On Aug 21, 2020
cgei:
Answer , Revelation 17:16,17 The final result of these drama is here > Revelation chapter 18.
Evrything is working as planned divinely.
Oh boy! So, If you believe this is God's plan, why are you fighting it?

Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 5:21pm On Aug 21, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Stop that trash. Did the apostles gather in physical buildings or not? Holy Spirit even descended on them.
Oh, did they tell you that they were gathered in a business establishment registered supposedly registered under the roman government(in the name of God), or someone's house?

Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 5:25pm On Aug 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Oh, did they tell you that they were gathered in a business establishment registered supposedly registered under the roman government(in the name of God), or someone's house?
Did the roman govt tell your dull mind their was such a law? Keep battling to sustain stúpidity.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 5:28pm On Aug 21, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Did the roman govt tell your dull mind their was such a law? Keep battling to sustain stúpidity.
How do you think Romans were able to tax businesses even at that time? How were the Romans able to institute a temple tax of their own if there wre no such laws?

Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 6:23pm On Aug 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
How do you think Romans were able to tax businesses even at that time? How were the Romans able to institute a temple tax of their own if there wre no such laws?
You mean laws to sack the high priests? Delusion is worrying you.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 6:28pm On Aug 21, 2020
CodeTemplar:
You mean laws to sack the high priests? Delusion is worrying you.
I suggest you go through your history lessons instead of continuing to shoot yourself in the mouth.

Siege of Jerusalem
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by vhuqnl(m): 7:02pm On Aug 21, 2020
Seun:
There are many other terrible things in that law.
I want to believe you have many accounts on Nairaland yourself

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by jubilee55f: 9:37pm On Aug 21, 2020
The government can and should control the church. At least to checkmate the numerous financial vampires who are gallivanting all over the country in the name of men of God. They use the resources of their flocks to flourish their own lives to the detriment of their followers. Yes. The government should control the church but definitely not under Buhari. Buhari is a dangerous religious fanatic that should never be trusted with the enforcement of this noble CAMA law. A fairly minded regime would have been more preferable for this type of law. The Buhari we know today is an islamist mass murderer that should never be trusted.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by leofab(f): 10:20pm On Aug 21, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The relationship between churches and followers is a mutual one held by trust and faith. Regulating the church against the wish of the members is against both the leaders and members who accept the leaders as God sent.
By the way, what goes around the church is a tiny fraction of wealth in the system so we know better.
same with scammers and their victims.. should the government fold their hands and watch ?
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by desiredhome: 12:22am On Aug 22, 2020
xelly:
Passing laws to regulate Christianity in Nigeria will NEVER stand. If anyone supports that, he should be ready to fight with his maker. We will do ours as human and spirit filled human and allow those that think they are wise and greater than their maker to face the music. Christianity is not a social gathering.

You and your arrogant mentor/Pastorprenours will relocate to form another country else where, because you are not above the law of the land
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by desiredhome: 12:32am On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The relationship between churches and followers is a mutual one held by trust and faith. Regulating the church against the wish of the members is against both the leaders and members who accept the leaders as God sent.
By the way, what goes around the church is a tiny fraction of wealth in the system so we know better.
No organization or individual is bigger than the government of a country......no two masters can be in same ship, you either stay by the rules/laws of a country or you relocate to form your own country... period
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by genkins(m): 8:36am On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:



What did Jesus invent or patent that he had Judas as a treasurer? Apostle Paul too?
So, anyone that has a treasurer is rich...? The way you guys reason I am sure your children will be ashamed of you. Was jesus rich? Did he own businesses? Did he own chariots and horses? One man of dog even countered that Jesus drove a brand new donkey, and I asked him did Jesus own the donkey? How many times did he use it... He kept on stammering...
Another came and said they casted lots on his garment.. When I showed him that the gament was put on him by the king to mock 'the king of the jews' ... He started stuttering...
The truth is that, our pastors were never intelligent just charismatic. no wonder they always came last in class or by far, average. Most of them are not even sound Upstairs. The intelligent ones like oyakilome, use thier intelligence to market falsehood and become rich.


You even mentioned apostle Paul that went in rags and hunger wanted to finish him whilst preaching christ and had to depend on few contributions here and there to survive.eventually got executed.
This is someone that was well off as a Scholar and lawyer of means.. The problem is, u guys listen to these illiterates as pastors.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by genkins(m): 8:49am On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:

How did Jesus make the money Judas kept as a treasurer and stole from to the point only Jesus(not all disciples) knew of the theft by revelation?
Use your brain. Oyedepo doesn't directly owns schools or businesses? Use your brain more.

This trash is what an average illiterate pastor usually use as defence when u talk against mammon worship.. Very lame.
That Jesus had a treasurer means he indeed was rich.. Low brained conjecture.
Oyedepo doesn't directly own schools or the church business but has refused to relinquish his position as a trustee and instead has been adding his children as trustees in the church yet you call him MY PAPA. I can't say use your brain cos surely ly u gat.. NONE
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 10:37am On Aug 22, 2020
genkins:


This trash is what an average illiterate pastor usually use as defence when u talk against mammon worship.. Very lame.
That Jesus had a treasurer means he indeed was rich.. Low brained conjecture.
Oyedepo doesn't directly own schools or the church business but has refused to relinquish his position as a trustee and instead has been adding his children as trustees in the church yet you call him MY PAPA. I can't say use your brain cos surely ly u gat.. NONE
^^^ baseliess lies.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 10:42am On Aug 22, 2020
genkins:

So, anyone that has a treasurer is rich...? The way you guys reason I am sure your children will be ashamed of you. Was jesus rich? Did he own businesses? Did he own chariots and horses? One man of dog even countered that Jesus drove a brand new donkey, and I asked him did Jesus own the donkey? How many times did he use it... He kept on stammering...
Another came and said they casted lots on his garment.. When I showed him that the gament was put on him by the king to mock 'the king of the jews' ... He started stuttering...
The truth is that, our pastors were never intelligent just charismatic. no wonder they always came last in class or by far, average. Most of them are not even sound Upstairs. The intelligent ones like oyakilome, use thier intelligence to market falsehood and become rich.


You even mentioned apostle Paul that went in rags and hunger wanted to finish him whilst preaching christ and had to depend on few contributions here and there to survive.eventually got executed.

This is someone that was well off as a Scholar and lawyer of means.. The problem is, u guys listen to these illiterates as pastors.
Your mumu is heavy duty and legendary at worse. So Paul survived on gift but it is a sin for a minister of God to receive gift. Now get lost.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 10:47am On Aug 22, 2020
desiredhome:


You and your arrogant mentor/Pastorprenours will relocate to form another country else where, because you are not above the law of the land
Hear yourself, the matter in focus is actually between the members and pastors or church leaders, so why will govt want to seize control of a contribution the contributors are pleased with the way it is being spent?

The law is stupid at best.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by cgei: 11:00am On Aug 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Oh boy! So, If you believe this is God's plan, why are you fighting it?

I am not fighting it. It is a welcome development.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by desiredhome: 12:36pm On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Hear yourself, the matter in focus is actually between the members and pastors or church leaders, so why will govt want to seize control of a contribution the contributors are pleased with the way it is being spent?

The law is stupid at best.

Because both the Pastors and the members are under the Constitution of Nigeria and must obey the constituted authority and the authority also have the right to investigate or monitor what every organization under it's Constitution are doing.....
By the way the CAMA is not for only churches so why is CAN making it look like they are after the church?
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 12:55pm On Aug 22, 2020
desiredhome:


Because both the Pastors and the members are under the Constitution of Nigeria and must obey the constituted authority and the authority also have the right to investigate or monitor what every organization under it's Constitution are doing.....
By the way the CAMA is not for only churches so why is CAN making it look like they are after the church?
Funny enough, the constitution you are holding onto like you scored a great point with also allows for freedom of association. Daft law.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by FatherOfJesus: 1:00pm On Aug 22, 2020
The things of the spirit is using church funds for frivolous purpose. The church has become a den of thieves and that should be checkmated
Dreal1247:
This is one way through which strange practices could be imported into the body of Christ. A canal mind cannot understand the things of the spirit. The Christian body needs to write the presidency as well as the law makers.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by desiredhome: 1:09pm On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Funny enough, the constitution you are holding onto like you scored a great point with also allows for freedom of association. Daft law.
Be it daft or whatever it is a law and must be obeyed, anyone who is not comfortable with it should relocate and form his own country like I said before......
It's only those with skeleton in their carboard that is against the law....
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 2:05pm On Aug 22, 2020
cgei:


I am not fighting it. It is a welcome development.
Ok. As long as we are not dragging God down in the mud suggesting the law is somehow 'against him'
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by genkins(m): 8:38pm On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:

Your mumu is heavy duty and legendary at worse. So Paul survived on gift but it is a sin for a minister of God to receive gift. Now get lost.





Lol. U know I have gotten you... .. And you became angry when the facts were laid bare stripping unclad the lies propagated by your merchants of the gospel of christ. Uve run out of scripture to justify the nonsense ur masters are doing. Paul's gift were for survival but your pastors gift even made him appear on Forbes magazine. Clap for ur self..Ewu
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by genkins(m): 9:28pm On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:
^^^ baseliess lies.
Mental Slavery. Anytime u wake up, na Im be your morning guy!
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by CodeTemplar: 10:07pm On Aug 22, 2020
genkins:

Lol. U know I have gotten you... .. And you became angry when the facts were laid bare stripping unclad the lies propagated by your merchants of the gospel of christ. Uve run out of scripture to justify the nonsense ur masters are doing. Paul's gift were for survival but your pastors gift even made him appear on Forbes magazine. Clap for ur self..Ewu
U are not stable. If you are stable enough yo decode that thank God.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by genkins(m): 11:09pm On Aug 22, 2020
CodeTemplar:
U are not stable. If you are stable enough yo decode that thank God.
Lwkmd... Game over
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by asamaigho(m): 10:14pm On Aug 23, 2020
blackgold90:



A man of God should keep by the law of the land, he should have obey the law. That someone killed some don't make us to kill too or that some one break law should not make him to break the law.

The billions that Pastor oyedepo, adeboye, oyakilome, Suleiman, plus others has are offering offered to God but in trust Under these pastors which they are lavishing and making billionaire of themselves.Fela captured all these in one of his popular song.

As popular as the Pope he is not as rich as any of these pastors because the Holy see is not under one individual control and other church should emulate that.

You fail to reply to the transfer of the church wealth by these pastor to their children when they are no more.

I repeat they should be controlled to stop embarrassing situation to every one.

church money and pastors money are two different things na guy!
church money is controlled by d church board of trustee nao. ..pastors money is d controlled by d pastor and he can transfer it to whom he pleases na.
Bros no organisation known to man is as reach as d catholic church unless u r very ignorant.
d pope is by far one of d most reachest human on d planet.
u need to do alot of research.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by asamaigho(m): 10:40pm On Aug 23, 2020
genkins:

How did oyedepo get money to build companies and schools that you claim made him a billionaire. What is his day time job? Or did he inherit the wealth from his parents? Or what did he invent or patent? Answer pls, we are waiting.

how did dangote, atiku, ndimi,bagangida, abacha get d billions dey used in building their empires, did dey inherit it?
please answer me.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by FatherOfJesus: 10:45pm On Aug 23, 2020
Stealing public funds. Is that how Oyedepo got his as well?
asamaigho:


how did dangote, atiku, ndimi,bagangida, abacha get d billions dey used in building their empires, did dey inherit it?
please answer me.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by asamaigho(m): 11:17pm On Aug 23, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Stealing public funds. Is that how Oyedepo got his as well?

oh well so u know d aforementioned stole poblic funds to beome wealthy, yet u are only after oyedepo and other pastor?.
continue in ur trade.

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