sonmvayina:


Yes, thats what God is....Osanobua, Eledumare, Chukwu, vishnu, Ra, Marduk, YVWH...

Actually,I don't think consciousness can be personified.

HellVictorinho:

I was once a Christian.
But the faith is dead.

What is there now? What did you replace it with?

HellVictorinho:

Actually,I don't think consciousness can be personified.

Well, the totality of the conciousenes of the universe is what tbe scripture refers to as God, at least the Tanakh. Not the man god created by the romans and greeks.

sonmvayina:


Well, the totality of the conciousenes of the universe is what tbe scripture refers to as God, at least the Tanakh. Not the man god created by the romans and greeks.

The universe is not conscious.

sonmvayina:
@Donnie

Is there anywhere God ever said the messiah was coming as a sacrifice for sins?

Jumping from thread to thread trying to shake off the pricking of the Spirit on your heart? Is this the first time you have challenged me on this?

◄ Isaiah 53 ►

1Who has believed our message

and to whom has the arm of YAHUAH been revealed?

2He grew up before him like a tender shoot,

and like a root out of dry ground.

He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,

nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3He was despised and rejected by mankind,

a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.

Like one from whom people hide their faces

he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4Surely he took up our pain

and bore our suffering,

yet we considered him punished by YAH,

stricken by him, and afflicted.

5But he was pierced for our transgressions,

he was crushed for our iniquities;

the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

and by his wounds we are healed.

6We all, like sheep, have gone astray,

each of us has turned to our own way;

and YAHUAH has laid on him

the iniquity of us all.

7He was oppressed and afflicted,

yet he did not open his mouth;

he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,

and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,

so he did not open his mouth.

8By oppression and judgment he was taken away.

Yet who of his generation protested?

For he was cut off from the land of the living;

for the transgression of my people he was punished.

9He was assigned a grave with the wicked,

and with the rich in his death,

though he had done no violence,

nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10Yet it was YAHUAH'S will to crush him and cause him to suffer,

and though YAHUAH makes his life an offering for sin,

he will see his offspring and prolong his days,

and the will of YAHUAH will prosper in his hand.

11After he has suffered,

he will see the light of life and be satisfied ;

by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,

and he will bear their iniquities.

12Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,

and he will divide the spoils with the strong,

because he poured out his life unto death,

and was numbered with the transgressors.

For he bore the sin of many,

and made intercession for the transgressors.


I like the prophet Isaiah say again today "who hath believed our report?"

sonmvayina:


What is there now? What did you replace it with?

The faith just died.
It was not a plan.
So,there is no replacement.

HellVictorinho:

The universe is not conscious.

Ehnnnnn? What did you say?

https://mindmatters.ai/2019/08/why-some-scientists-believe-the-universe-is-conscious/

donnie:


Jumping from thread to thread trying to shake off the pricking of the Spirit on your heart? Is this the first time you have challenged me on this?

◄ Isaiah 53 ►

1Who has believed our message

and to whom has the arm of YAHUAH been revealed?

2He grew up before him like a tender shoot,

and like a root out of dry ground.

He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,

nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3He was despised and rejected by mankind,

a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.

Like one from whom people hide their faces

he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4Surely he took up our pain

and bore our suffering,

yet we considered him punished by YAH,

stricken by him, and afflicted.

5But he was pierced for our transgressions,

he was crushed for our iniquities;

the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

and by his wounds we are healed.

6We all, like sheep, have gone astray,

each of us has turned to our own way;

and YAHUAH has laid on him

the iniquity of us all.

7He was oppressed and afflicted,

yet he did not open his mouth;

he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,

and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,

so he did not open his mouth.

8By oppression and judgment he was taken away.

Yet who of his generation protested?

For he was cut off from the land of the living;

for the transgression of my people he was punished.

9He was assigned a grave with the wicked,

and with the rich in his death,

though he had done no violence,

nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10Yet it was YAHUAH'S will to crush him and cause him to suffer,

and though YAHUAH makes his life an offering for sin,

he will see his offspring and prolong his days,

and the will of YAHUAH will prosper in his hand.

11After he has suffered,

he will see the light of life and be satisfied ;

by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,

and he will bear their iniquities.

12Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,

and he will divide the spoils with the strong,

because he poured out his life unto death,

and was numbered with the transgressors.

For he bore the sin of many,

and made intercession for the transgressors.


I like the prophet Isaiah say again today "who hath believed our report?"

And i have always refuted this isaish 53.

For God sake and the last time, it is talking about a suffering servant. Isaiah already told you the servant is israel...

HellVictorinho:

The faith just died.
It was not a plan.
So,there is no replacement.

To every death, there is always a new beginning .

sonmvayina:



Ehnnnnn? What did you say?

https://mindmatters.ai/2019/08/why-some-scientists-believe-the-universe-is-conscious/

I still don't agree with the scientists.
I also don't have to correct their statements.
I actually think they are talking too much.

sonmvayina:


To every death, there is always a new beginning .

At the moment,I believe there are infinite things that exist and there is no reason behind their simultaneous existence.
They just exist in the absence of nothing/nothingness.

sonmvayina:


And i have always refuted this isaish 53.

For God sake and the last time, it is talking about a suffering servant. Isaiah already told you the servant is israel...

Please stop talking nonsnese.

So verse 4 says Israel took away his own pain and bore his own suffering.

Verse 9 say Israel was punished for nothing. He was sinless but he was punished. Meaning your god must be mad. ISRAEL commited no sin ...no deceit? Which ISRAEL

Verse 10 YAH turns Israel into an offering for sin, on who's behalf. So YAH sinned and decided to kill his people as offering... to who?
It says "He shall see his offspring..."... After He has killed all of Israel?...and prolong whose days?

Verse 11- "...my righteous servant will justify many, he will bear their iniquities... Explain. Who is the servant? Who is he justifying? Is it Israel that has the power to forgive, cleanse and justify? Who is Israel justifying?

Verse 12- says ISRAEL was numbered with transgressors because it commited no transgression right? Which ISRAEL?
Bore the sins of many (who are the many?) and made intercession for them, because he was sinless?

How you are able to continue with your delusions inspite of the glaring error of your ways tells a lot about the state of your heart. Your kind are not new, nothing special... They existed in bible days during the time of MESSIAH and the apostles.

That's why you're always found contributing happily in every juju and idol worship thread. Before nko? ...you can't get Holy Spirit Power with all those lies and falsehood you peddle? So Egyptology and voodoo are your only hope.

donnie:


Please stop talking nonsnese.

So verse 4 says Israel took away his own pain and bore his own suffering.

Verse 9 say Israel was punished for nothing. He was sinless but he was punished. Meaning your god must be mad. ISRAEL commited no sin ...no deceit? Which ISRAEL

Verse 10 YAH turns Israel into an offering for sin, on who's behalf. So YAH sinned and decided to kill his people as offering... to who?
It says "He shall see his offspring..."... After He has killed all of Israel?...and prolong whose days?

Verse 11- "...my righteous servant will justify many, he will bear their iniquities... Explain. Who is the servant? Who is he justifying? Is it Israel that has the power to forgive, cleanse and justify? Who is Israel justifying?

Verse 12- says ISRAEL was numbered with transgressors because it commited no transgression right? Which ISRAEL?
Bore the sins of many (who are the many?) and made intercession for them, because he was sinless?

How you are able to continue with your delusions inspite of the glaring error of your ways tells a lot about the state of your heart. Your kind are not new, nothing special... They existed in bible days during the time of MESSIAH and the apostles.

That's why you're always found contributing happily in every juju and idol worship thread. Before nko? ...you can't get Holy Spirit Power with all those lies and falsehood you peddle? So Egyptology and voodoo are your only hope.

Isaiah 53 is about a suffering righteous servant, not a demi god. Isaiah already told you 8 times prior to 53 that israel is Gods servant..please read a more appropriate translation...

The people talking in 53 are the kings of the earth....

You really are a dullard.

@Donnie

https://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Isaiah_53_The_Suffering_Servant.html?mobile=yes


Try this too.

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective

sonmvayina:
@Donnie

https://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Isaiah_53_The_Suffering_Servant.html?mobile=yes


Try this too.

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective

Judaism is a fake religion, it was used to cause our people to sin, thereby bringing death and destruction. It's the bane of Igbos in Nigeria but many don't realize it. They are happy to be friends with these white so-called Jews, the Synagogue of Satan. I see many of you even compare your traditional religion with the Jewish Kabalah etc. It's all witchcraft.

sonmvayina:


Isaiah 53 is about a suffering righteous servant, not a demi god. Isaiah already told you 8 times prior to 53 that israel is Gods servant..please read a more appropriate translation...

The people talking in 53 are the kings of the earth....

You really are a dullard.

So ISRAEL was Sinless... ISRAEL was sacrificed? What for then... And on whose behalf?

donnie:


Judaism is a fake religion, it was used to cause our people to sin, thereby bringing death and destruction. It's the bane of Igbos in Nigeria but many don't realize it. They are happy to be friends with these white so-called Jews, the Synagogue of Satan. I see many of you even compare your traditional religion with the Jewish Kabalah etc. It's all witchcraft.

You are not well at all...i think i have told you this before. You are using their own book to claim identity. They are interpreting it for you, you are insulting them. They where the people God promised a messiah, and God never told them that he will be a demi God or part of a triune God...

So continue in your idolatry. It does not really concern them.

sonmvayina:


You are not well at all...i think i have told you this before. You are using their own book to claim identity. They are interpreting it for you, you are insulting them. They where the people God promised a messiah, and God never told them that he will be a demi God or part of a triune God...

So continue in your idolatry. It does not really concern them.

It is not their book, you idiot. They inteprete it for slaves like you, not me. Can't you see my reasoning is so different from yours? They stole our books and tried their best to twist the truth around. Even their Talmud calls you black idiots cursed monkeys.

They are the synagogue of Satan, so says our black MESSIAH (Revelation 2:9, 3:9). Can't you see it, you bewitched whiteman-worshipping black fools?

They reject you but like the idiots that you are, you still beg for their recognition and validation. Y'all deserve all the suffering that you get.

OUR BLACK MESSIAH is not part of any Satanic truine. He is God, just like we his brethren. He is not YAHUAH but He is our king and our champion. We have had several Bantu avatars over the centuries. Go read about Simon Toko or Simon Kimbangu of recent history. These were avatars whose lives were nothing short of supernatural. Men that could disappear... Simon Toko was killed many times, cut in pieces and came back to life. There are still many living witnesses today.

We are not talking about Nnamdi Kanu whom you idiots worship as MESSIAH yet you don't believe the MESSIAH of the scriptures.

donnie:


It is not their book, you idiot. They inteprete it for slaves like you, not me. Can't you see my reasoning is so different from yours? They stole our books and tried their best to twist the truth around. Even their Talmud calls you black idiots cursed monkeys.

They are the synagogue of Satan, so says our black MESSIAH (Revelation 2:9, 3:9). Can't you see it, you bewitched whiteman-worshipping black fools?

They reject you but like the idiots that you are, you still beg for their recognition and validation. Y'all deserve all the suffering that you get.

OUR BLACK MESSIAH is not part of any Satanic truine. He is God, just like we his brethren. He is not YAHUAH but He is our king and our champion. We have had several Bantu avatars over the centuries. Go read about Simon Toko or Simon Kimbangu of recent history. These were avatars whose lives were nothing short of supernatural. Men that could disappear... Simon Toko was killed many times, cut in pieces and came back to life. There are still many living witnesses today.

We are not talking about Nnamdi Kanu whom you idiots worship as MESSIAH yet you don't believe the MESSIAH of the scriptures.

Donnie, jokes apart...you are not well.. please see a specialist..

sonmvayina:


Donnie, jokes apart...you are not well.. please see a specialist..

Let me know when you have a point apart from Igbo juju and ancestor worship.