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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:43pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Jozzy4: Emusan In trouble. Tiki taka ... E mean sey Sinners sef go get spiritual body and be quickened by the Spirit. Yeebariba |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:49pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Jozzy4: where Emusan dey , na serious matter be this. The worse thing is they have successfully given spiritual body Christ ressurected with to even sinners in their confusion. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:04pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Barristter07: Ok honourable. off the mic pleaseee |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 9:34pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Barristter07: I'm here, any problem? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:40pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I would appreciate, if they do. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:41pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Emusan: Go and respond to Jozzy4 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 9:47pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Barristter07: If your brain isn't paining you, you should have seen that she's just perambulating. That's why I just left her to her folly. 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:53pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Hafdeylium Of course.Did you forget this verse? Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Living christ *Can you show me anywhere in the bible where Jesus mention God's name as Jehovah?* ReplyHaba nah cheesy...They don't teach you diswan in Sunday school niithere were many people who had Jehovah attached to their names, you have not pointed where Jesus even mention Jehovah's name, not in prayer or in preaching, so how did Jesus now declare God's name? 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:54pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
haddeylium:of what use is that to the discourse, face topic 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:56pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
confused one, I should be asking you. haddeylium:You said Son of God= angel= messenger. And I mentioned Adam to you, 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:00pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ:Jesus didnt make self claim, the scriptures bear witness of him, also the father bear record and with the holy spirit two. But your organization has being the one making claim about herself. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 10:10pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
If Jehovah told Abraham, Isaac and Jacob his name at Genesis 15:7, 26:24-25, 28:13 and later said at Exodus 6:3 that he didn't make his name known to them, don't you think there is an explanation to this? Before you say you didn't ask me, are you ready to know the reason behind Exodus 6:3?
Mark 12:29-31 quoted directly from Deuteronomy 6:4-5: Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” Even when Satan tempted Jesus, Jesus directed all worship to his God and Father.(compare Matthew 4:10 with Deuteronomy 6:13) |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:16pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Mark12:29-30 '29Yeshua said to him, "The first of all the commandments: Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' " 30"'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment" Mark12:29-30 is Jesus Christ direct quote of Deuteronomy 6:4 and 10:12. Jesus spoke his Father's name to the disciples , The very reason Jesus Christ says He made God's name known @ John 17:6,26. John 7:16 . 15:15, Jesus taught the doctrine of his God and Father. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:19pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Sons of God that are spirit being are Angels! So, is Adam a spirit or human being? THINK! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:25pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Barristter07:In the bible the word spiritual means beyond natural or something that is not subject to the natural order, It does not mean a spirit. For example, In those the prophet was called a Spiritual man, Hosea 9:7 The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred. Does it mean the prophet was a spirit? Some Christians in galatians were called spiritual, does it mean they were spirits? So, A spiritual body is a body that is not subject to natural constraint. Paul even describe what a spiritual body is, A spiritual body is one that is not subject to decay (corruption) unlike the natural body, the spiritual body is full of glory, it is very powerful unlike the weak human body. Paul said the same body that was sown (died) will also be resurrected but however it is going to be completely changed or transformed. 1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Paul is not saying the body will be discarded but rather it is sown. When you do sow something did you throw it away? No but rather you expect what you have sown to regenerate itself. The same body that is sown will be resurrected but in a more glorified form. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:25pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
[quote author=livingchrist post=95076530] Hafdeylium Did you forget this verse?That's why you need to learn from God's people from the scratch Did you now see that this patriarch know God's name and use it extensively. Go back and and study what it means that the name 'Jehovah' wasn't reveal to them there were many people who had Jehovah attached to their names, you have not pointed where Jesus even mention Jehovah's name, not in prayer or in preaching, so how did Jesus now declare God's name? Clown Do me a favour. Clean Jehovah from Jesus' name and let's talk |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:33pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
haddeylium:of course Adam was not a spirit but yet was called the son of God. Being a Son of God had nothing to do with being a Spirit or a human. A son is one that has special right, relationship with God. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:34pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
author=haddeylium post=95077501]you have being a comic relief so far, go and sleep! Next time learn to be civil and stop throwing insults instead of intelligent response. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:40pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:49pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Quote the insult here See ehn. You're not alone, the Pharisees referred to in story of Lazarus and rich man too felt angered, or tormented, by the truth and the message (Matthew 3:7-12) Learn from their example, Humble yourself and learn from this God's people. No joke! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:00pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Bros STOP DECEIVING yourself. You claim Jesus is God,a spirit. Another spirit is living in him.. How many spirits is Jesus Christ? You think say you get SENSE? Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job33:4. Psalm 104:29 ,Luke 23:46, Genesis2:7 , God did not install a living spiritual being inside Jesus or inside man. Or you mean that God is 2 spirits, John 4:24 Jesus says you lied. Luke 23:46 simply means Jesus breathed out the breath of life, and expired. Simple. Please, JWs NEVER said breath of life is just breeze. Take note. There is no spiritual being grieving or troubled inside a man .... 2 Cor 2:13 and Daniel 7:15, Paul and Daniel thoughts respectively were worried and agitated. (Your fellow Trinitarian believers, @ Studylight.org explained it thoroughly, you saw it yourself. Bros, the Maggi, pepper and spices you are placing into the Scriptures is uncalled for. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:07pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Ndipe:Jesus is the first born of every creature, Jesus is a creature. His God & Father anointed Jesus above his peers/fellows. Hebrews1:9. God no get peer/fellow . Shey you understand? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:19pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Genesis 3:19 , Psalms 104:29, Yahweh told Adam and Adam's offsprings, you are dusts. John 20:17 Jesus answered: I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God" Ooh la la !!! WAYO Muttley GIBBERISH say him knows more than his Maker. The God of Jesus is not the Triune God of Muttleylaff.. according to his own personal confession. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:29pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Na The screenshot dey cause you sifia pains , it struck a chord. You have seen the proof that Triune idol worshippers no love themselves even at a period they claim to preach and practice love..
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:36pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Adam is ,yes. He was Jehovah's Messenger (angel,envoy) to Eve. Genesis 3:2-4, How did Eve know the command @ Genesis2:16-17? Jesus is speaking@ John 20:17 and Revelation 3:12 , is it in your Bible?
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:42pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
livingchrist: Bros , go borrow binoculars and goggles to read 2 Chronicle 7:14 and Acts15:14. Acts15 :14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles" In both verses, "the People called by God's name," means what? Jehovah''s People= Jehovah's Organization.. Acts 2:42-46, John 9:4 still dey your Bible? . |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:02am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Acts15:14. 2 Chro7:14 and John 9:4 dey your Bible? John 9:4 ,Acts 3:13, who are the "We"? Answer :Jehovah''s servants, a group inclusive of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob et al. Acts 2:42-46, are they an organized group ? Acts15:14 , "People for God's name", Jehovah's people , His Organization. (2 Chro7:14 "People called by my (Jehovah's) name" Bros, You have the right to Blabber your mouth. No wahala.. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:38am On Oct 19, 2020 |
livingchrist: Bros , you can either stand with the Scriptural truth or go against it.. you are going against it. Bros humble yourself, please. Study how the NAS Bible explained "Elohim/EL Gibbowr"
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:41am On Oct 19, 2020 |
livingchrist: Yes... In the context that the wind or forces of nature could be deployed by Jehovah for a specific purpose. Whatever Jehovah God assigns for a specific task, can be called "Angel" (, whether a spiritual being or not). Jehovah deployed a global Deluge to destroy the evil world of Noah's day. In the same vein, Jehovah deployed a ministering spirit to destroy 185,000 Assyrian soldiers in a flash. Both times, His purpose was accomplished.. Men use forces of nature for spiritism, what of the Maker of heaven and earth, can HE not do much more? You understand? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 6:06am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Janosky:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] You again with your "Triune God", hmm? You never cease always slipping up on the "exerchomai" and/or "ekporeuomai" banana skins |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 6:50am On Oct 19, 2020 |
livingchrist: If you carefully view matters from the view of a Jew living in the first century you'll see that Jesus was making self claims. He was just a carpenter's son whose father never attended the rabbinical schools of his time, he was not from the rich royal family, his own mother and brothers did not believe him, all the miracles he was performing are miracles that Pharisees also claims their members are performing, whatever God said in his behalf was heard only by his close confidants and he himself didn't take the necessary actions they were expecting the promised Messiah to take! So from the viewpoint of a common Jew like Flavius Josephus who was his contemporary Jesus only made false claims. But why do we now believe in him? It's not because of the claims he made back then, it was diligent study of the SIGNS that will help to sincere people identify the Christ not just thinking of the immediate benefits of his presence. Today all the SIGNS that will help honest and sincere people to identify Jesus' group has been noticed in the activities of JWs. So if you're saying their claims is false definitely you would have said the same about Jesus if you happen to be one of his contemporaries! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 7:06am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Emusan: THE WAY this guy is pained ehn. Na heavy punch Jozzy deliver. 1 Like |
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