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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MightySparrow: 12:20am On Oct 05, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
Chief, whats the matter now, this is like asking do fishes put on raincoats.

Bro, spirits are incorporeal. Please dont confuse the homonyms, bodies and bodies, for each other. There are bodies of angelic host of heavens but they dont have bodies of any kind. I hope you havent got more confused dot com with that, lmso

SO 1. spirits and ghosts: angels, demons, God are like thoughts, and each cannot recognize the other? 2. If they don't have definite shapes, how come God told Moses, He would cover him with his HAND, he would see His BACK, and His FACE would not be seen if, HE does not a definite shape? 3. Paul talks about body terrestial and body celestial. I Cor. 15: 40 and also NATURAL BODY and SPIRITUAL BODY, I Cor 15: 44 and 4. did Moses see a vision of God or did he see with naked eyes? 5. why was Moses face affected and others that saw God in visions didn't have their own faces affected like Moses'? 6. Jesus mentioned 'ghost', do ghosts exist?

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 2:45am On Oct 05, 2020

false jw's don't believe Jesus when he said that He will raise his destroyed temple:
Joh_2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

phony jw's don't believe Jesus when he said and showed that it was his raised body, and not a borrowed body with fake wounds in it:
Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is truly me. Touch me and see, for a spirit doesn’t have flesh and bones, as you see that I have.

false jw's don't don't don't don't believe the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, or God's inspired word the Bible:

Jesus has the power to raise his body just as he said He would in john 2:19 :
Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Act 2:24 Whom God(the Word) hath raised up(john 2:19 and john 10:17-18), having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

the disciples heard, saw, and touched Jesus. they didn't hear, see, and touch a Jesus with borrowed body and fake wounds < ridiculous

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Kobojunkie: 2:50am On Oct 05, 2020

Depsui:
Jesus Christ resurrected in flesh. But it was a glorified body. That's why you see it in the bible that Jesus Christ was the first one to resurrect from the dead. But we know that lazarus and some other people were raised from the dead.

What differentiates the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the others was that He resurrected with a glorified body.

The glorified body is like a combination of flesh and Spirit. On the last day, every Christian that makes heaven will also take on this glorified body. It is with this glorified body that we will be able to live forever.

Where do you get this supposed definition of yours, of a "glorified body"? I don't remember Jesus Christ saying He resurrected with a "glorified body" is why I ask. He told His disciples that He was the same Jesus Christ, come back from the dead... Jesus Christ with a "glorified body" would be a sort of Jesus Christ 2.0 and that would not be the same as a Jesus Christ 1.0(the one that died), would it now? undecided

Regarding your assertion that the "glorified body" you claim is a combination of flesh and spirit, my question is since Jesus Christ already had pretty much the same Spirit of God living inside of Him before death, what other Spirit came back with Him from the dead, causing the upgrade to "glorified body" status? undecided

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 5:43am On Oct 05, 2020

MightySparrow:
SO 1. spirits and ghosts: angels, demons, God are like thoughts, and each cannot recognize the other?

The words, spirits and ghosts are interchangeable, meaning they have the same meaning and can be used one for the other.
Now explain how you mean "a[i]ngels, demons, God are like thoughts, and each cannot recognize the other[/i]" please

MightySparrow:
2. If they don't have definite shapes, how come God told Moses, He would cover him with his HAND, he would see His BACK, and His FACE would not be seen if, HE does not a definite shape?

This poetic language writing. If you want details of this reply to my email request, I'll send a link to a post discussing what happened here in Exodus 33:12-21.

Here is the thumbnail version, BACK, signified past, events that happened in times gone behind, history et cetera while FACE, signifies, the future, what lies ahead, whats to come in the fullness of time, whats planned or is going to happen.

God is disincarnate, anthropomorphism, is a tool used often in the Bible for our benefit to allow us understand concepts and the information transmitted with them.

MightySparrow:
3. Paul talks about body terrestial and body celestial. I Cor. 15: 40 and also NATURAL BODY and SPIRITUAL BODY, I Cor 15: 44

Hmm, hmmm, so your point here is what?

MightySparrow:
and 4. did Moses see a vision of God or did he see with naked eyes?

It is the latter. Mind you though, its a slippery banana skin peel, you might slip on if not careful how you look before stepping on it, lmso

MightySparrow:
5. why was Moses face affected and others that saw God in visions didn't have their own faces affected like Moses'?

Their relationship with God wasn't as intense as his relationship with God is, that the reason for why

MightySparrow:
6. Jesus mentioned 'ghost', do ghosts exist?

Affirmative, ghost/spirit exist. Case in point, God is a Spirit. We all are spirit being housed in a body flesh suit. We are, in a legal and lawful way, on earth having, enjoying and living a human being experience (i.e. terrestrial experience)

PS: I admire your curious and enquiring questioning style, lmso smiles

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:09am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Christ exists in God's nature before becoming man!

So now He is still a MAN in heaven setting example for the resurrected ones.

Going by the statement, A Spirit didn't have flesh and bones. It means Jesus is not SPIRIT by nature. The very nature of God, Spirit... Is non existent in Jesus. Jesus doesn't exist in God's nature. .

Like I said , clap for yourself

So seeing something but not clearly means the thing you SAW wasn't real....your brain is paining you.

You're delusional!
Did I say crying can make you not to see those closing to you

She assumed to be a GARDENER since it's not a place people come and celebrate all the time.

The question is, how does she know the person is a Gardner if the person is too close to her?

Also why didn't any of Jesus disciples ever raise the issue of Jesus appearing with different IMAGES/bodies?

Which body did Jesus ascend to heaven with?

Why will Jesus lie to His disciples that He has flesh and bones when He was just a spirit?

These are the questions you won't attempt but dodging them.

Going by her closeness with Jesus when he was alive , she won't ever assume such. She clearly saw a different person. Evidence of Materialization

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:14am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Before becoming Human or after resurrection?
Resurrection has not taken place Olodo....

It's at resurrection the decaying human body will be transformed which is what Christ possessed.

Olodo buruku....

People who have died will be raised with a human glorified bodies at resurrection while people who are still alive THEIR BODY WILL BE TRANSFORMED immediately to the glorious body. THE SAME BODY AS HUMAN BUT NIW FUNCTIONING BEYOND JUST THIS DECAYING ONE.

Romans 6:5 says in the likeness of Jesus ressurection.

If Jesus body was transformed without decaying, Same would apply to them .

But we see from the above ,you admitted they will get a new body , likewise Jesus too got a new body . Not transformed. Emphasis on likeness .

So which Body would they have. Check the below

The spirit body is still the one at resurrection get sense.

Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones . So when it said what is born of spirit will become Spirit, those having the hope of ruling with Christ won't be flesh and bones .

Which means the SPIRIT is the one who will born them.

Then I asked, those who will live on earth with FLESH AND BONES, who will born them?

I asked you that question which you didn't answer

So who born them?

Since those born of spirit are spirit and those BORN OF FLESH ARE FLESH.

Who is the FLESH that provided their OWN FLESH?

Everybody will become Spirit like Christ then!

Na your wahala be that, what is clear is they will become spirit beings, same as Christ.

And Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by CANTICLES: 6:35am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Before becoming Human or after resurrection?

Resurrection has not taken place Olodo....

It's at resurrection the decaying human body will be transformed which is what Christ possessed.

Olodo buruku....

People who have died will be raised with a human glorified bodies at resurrection while people who are still alive THEIR BODY WILL BE TRANSFORMED immediately to the glorious body. THE SAME BODY AS HUMAN BUT NIW FUNCTIONING BEYOND JUST THIS DECAYING ONE.

The spirit body is still the one at resurrection get sense.

Which means the SPIRIT is the one who will born them.

Then I asked, those who will live on earth with FLESH AND BONES, who will born them?

I asked you that question which you didn't answer

So who born them?

Since those born of spirit are spirit and those BORN OF FLESH ARE FLESH.

Who is the FLESH that provided their OWN FLESH?

Everybody will become Spirit like Christ then!

Are you aware even the unrighteous will be ressurected, so unrighteous ones will have glorious body like Jesus.

And Barristter07 was Even nice to tell you there are two ressurection, the first is for born again corulers who will become Spirit persons like Jesus Christ, this are the heavenly ones in the likeness of Jesus ressurection, The rest will be raised as human on Earth.

Cc: Barristter07

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:42am On Oct 05, 2020

CANTICLES:

Are you aware even the unrighteous will be ressurected, so unrighteous ones will have glorious body like Jesus.

And Barristter07 was Even nice to tell you there are two ressurection, the first is for born again corulers who will become Spirit persons like Jesus Christ, this are the heavenly ones in the likeness of Jesus ressurection, The rest will be raised as human on Earth.

Cc: Barristter07

Unrighteous/wicked ones will be ressurected to heaven

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:54am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Deluded JWs has come, always saying senseless things!

The question I'm still waiting for the answer is:

Born of Spirit is Spirit

Born of Flesh is flesh

Who is the Spirit that'll born the ones to become spirit and who is the FLESH that'll born the ones becoming FLESH?

What is born of Spirit will become a Spirit being . That's the point , they won't be flesh and bones in heaven but Spirit persons. Likeness of Jesus Christ.

Add:

About that 1 Corin 15:50 the scripture says "Flesh and blood can't inherit the KINGDOM OF GOD"

Now the question is, does God's kingdom extend to earth or not?

The context is heavenly life. Adam and Eve were flesh and blood and they live happily in Paradise earth under God's watch. Same apply to the millions that will live forever on Earth (Rev 21:3,4)

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by nencounter10: 7:20am On Oct 05, 2020

Janosky:

Is Isaiah 57:20 not in your Bible?
Bros read and study your Bible and stop listening to pastpreneurs

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

What has the above scripture got to do with the issue on ground. That was how the other follow listed scriptures that are not relevant to the issue on ground.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42am On Oct 05, 2020

nencounter10:

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

What has the above scripture got to do with the issue on ground. That was how the other follow listed scriptures that are not relevant to the issue on ground.

It means you don't understand what the Bible is saying regarding the new heavens and new earth as Revelations 21:1 say God is creating a new heaven and earth and the sea is no more.
Isaiah revealed that the sea doesn't mean literal water where fishes live, definitely the heavens and earth means something else! wink

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by nencounter10: 8:01am On Oct 05, 2020

MaxInDHouse:

It means you don't understand what the Bible is saying regarding the new heavens and new earth as Revelations 21:1 say God is creating a new heaven and earth and the sea is no more.
Isaiah revealed that the sea doesn't mean literal water where fishes live, definitely the heavens and earth means something else!

You Jehovah witnesses are in grave error but you don't know it. If you read them in context to you will discover that nonethose scriptures I gave are symobolic. They are all meant to be taken literally.

I am done talking with you.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13am On Oct 05, 2020

nencounter10:

You Jehovah witnesses are in grave error but you don't know it. If you read them in context to you will discover that nonethose scriptures I gave are symobolic. They are all meant to be taken literally.

I am done talking with you.

The bolded should remind you that nobody asked for your opinion in the first place! cheesy

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:15am On Oct 05, 2020

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 15:50 is delusion to triune idol worshippers,Mr LIENUS

Mr No sense is here with is delusion as usual.

1 Cor15:47-50 "Flesh" is reference to human body/form.

"Born of flesh" in this context is a reference to sinful,carnal life condemned by God. Gal5:19-21. Gal5:6-7. Roman 8:6-8,13.

Every human being is BORN OF FLESH (through human copulation).

That's nice!

So BORN OF SPIRIT is what?

If BORN OF FLESH in this context means sinful, canal life, why do you think Jesus says WE MUST BE BORN OF THE SPIRIT IN OTHER TO SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD?

Also, you didn't address my question properly,

You are of the opinion that, BORN OF SPIRIT is Spirit which means those who will rule with Christ in heaven fit into that verse and this is to support your claim that Jesus' resurrection isn't BODILY because Jesus is a spirit and those who will rule with him are also resurrected (Born of Spirit) as a spirit!

So those who will live forever on earth ARE THEY BORN OF THE SPIRIT OR BORN OF FLESH?

You've proven that BORN OF FLESH IS SINFUL, CANAL LIFE.

Matthew 6:9-10, "thy kingdom come" (from heaven to earth) According to Jesus Christ and the holy Scripture, God's kingdom extends from heaven to earth.
Matthew 3:3,5. 2 Peter 3:13. Psalm 37:29 the righteous subjects of God's kingdom are not carnal minded, but practice righteousness , Galatians 5:22-24.

Of course, this is the true interpretation of that verse by your organization.

Now, how will people who are FLESH AND BLOOD live forever on earth under God's kingdom when 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "FLESH AND BLOOD will not be part of God's kingdom"?

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:25am On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:

Going by the statement, A Spirit didn't have flesh and bones. It means Jesus is not SPIRIT by nature. The very nature of God, Spirit... Is non existent in Jesus. Jesus doesn't exist in God's nature. .
Like I said , clap for yourself

Olodo...how many times will someone knocked sense into your empty skull?

The divine nature of Christ takes abode in that FLESH!

Christ only set example of how believers resurrection will be like and at the end He will hand over everything back to God, so that God will be ALL IN ALL. Only if your wack mind can comprehend that point.

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power....When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Going by her closeness with Jesus when he was alive , she won't ever assume such. She clearly saw a different person. Evidence of Materialization

If there's no distance between them and she wasn't crying.

By the way, you're still avoiding my point, why Mary didn't recognize Jesus at their first CONVERSATION until Jesus had to CALL HER?

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:27am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Mr No sense is here with is delusion as usual.

That's nice!

So BORN OF SPIRIT is what?

If BORN OF FLESH in this context means sinful, canal life, why do you think Jesus says WE MUST BE BORN OF THE SPIRIT IN OTHER TO SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD?

Also, you didn't address my question properly,

You are of the opinion that, BORN OF SPIRIT is Spirit which means those who will rule with Christ in heaven fit into that verse and this is to support your claim that Jesus' resurrection isn't BODILY because Jesus is a spirit and those who will rule with him are also resurrected (Born of Spirit) as a spirit!

So those who will live forever on earth ARE THEY BORN OF THE SPIRIT OR BORN OF FLESH?

You've proven that BORN OF FLESH IS SINFUL, CANAL LIFE.

Of course, this is the true interpretation of that verse by your organization.

Now, how will people who are FLESH AND BLOOD live forever on earth under God's kingdom when 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "FLESH AND BLOOD will not be part of God's kingdom"?

Flesh and blood will not be part of the rulers but will surely be in Paradise (where citizens under the rulership of God's Kingdom lives) Luke 23:43 wink

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:29am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Olodo...how many times will someone knocked sense into your empty skull?

The divine nature of Christ takes abode in that FLESH!

Christ only set example of how believers resurrection will be like and at the end He will hand over everything back to God, so that God will be ALL IN ALL. Only if your wack mind can comprehend that point.

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power....When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

If there's no distance between them and she wasn't crying.

By the way, you're still avoiding my point, why Mary didn't recognize Jesus at their first CONVERSATION until Jesus had to CALL HER?

Because Jesus' new body is no more recognizable to Mary! wink

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:34am On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:
Romans 6:5 says in the likeness of Jesus ressurection.

The verse is very straight forward, in the LIKENESS OF JESUS RESURRECTION...that is ALL BELIEVERS WILL HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF RESURRECTION JESUS HAVE.

If Jesus body was transformed without decaying, Same would apply to them

Yes! at the resurrection get that into your dull skull.

But we see from the above ,you admitted they will get a new body , likewise Jesus too got a new body . Not transformed. Emphasis on likeness

THE DECAY BODY WILL BE PUT TOGETHER AND GLORIFIED for those who have died but for those who will be alive their body will PUT ON new glorified one.

So which Body would they have. Check the below

The glorified body like that of Christ.

Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones . So when it said what is born of spirit will become Spirit, those having the hope of ruling with Christ won't be flesh and bones

And born of FLESH WILL BECOME FLESH

So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

That's the question!

Na your wahala be that, what is clear is they will become spirit beings, same as Christ.

And Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones

Now it's my wahala but you're fuming in your mouth before.

But Christ claimed to have flesh and bones!

I'm still waiting for this question:

So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:40am On Oct 05, 2020

MaxInDHouse:
Flesh and blood will not be part of the rulers but will surely be in Paradise (where citizens under the rulership of God's Kingdom lives) Luke 23:43

Deluded Maxmumu!

Keep changing the scripture at own peril!

This is what the scripture says "CEV: My friends, I want you to know that our bodies of flesh and blood will decay. This means that they cannot share in God’s kingdom, which lasts forever.

You agree that those who will live forever on earth will be FLESH AND BLOOD and earth will be under God's Kingdom. So there's no hope for you because you won't be part of God's kingdom.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:57am On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Olodo...how many times will someone knocked sense into your empty skull?

The divine nature of Christ takes abode in that FLESH!

Christ only set example of how believers resurrection will be like and at the end He will hand over everything back to God, so that God will be ALL IN ALL. Only if your wack mind can comprehend that point.

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power....When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Who ask you this ?

God's nature is Spirit. And Jesus isnt a Spirit. He is not in God's nature. Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

Case closed.

If there's no distance between them and she wasn't crying.

By the way, you're still avoiding my point, why Mary didn't recognize Jesus at their first CONVERSATION until Jesus had to CALL HER?

If it's the same appearance, she won't have problem identifying him before that call. The call refer to his manner of calling her name. , In another instance, they only recognize him BY HOW HE BROKE BREAD . Not appearance . Evidence of Materialization ...

" Then the two told what had happened on the way, and how Jesus was recognized by them when he broke the bread." Luke 24:35

Mary didn't know who he was . Clearly not the Face he knew. A Gardener !! grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:02pm On Oct 05, 2020

ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan! cheesy

Why not allow God judge that nah? cheesy

At least you've asked the question and gotten our answer, and you can't expect all religion to give the same answer!

Emusan:

Deluded Maxmumu!
Keep changing the scripture at own peril!
This is what the scripture says "CEV: My friends, I want you to know that our bodies of flesh and blood will decay. This means that they cannot share in God’s kingdom, which lasts forever.
You agree that those who will live forever on earth will be FLESH AND BLOOD and earth will be under God's Kingdom. So there's no hope for you because you won't be part of God's kingdom.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:09pm On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

The verse is very straight forward, in the LIKENESS OF JESUS RESURRECTION...that is ALL BELIEVERS WILL HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF RESURRECTION JESUS HAVE.
Yes! at the resurrection get that into your dull skull.

THE DECAY BODY WILL BE PUT TOGETHER AND GLORIFIED for those who have died but for those who will be alive their body will PUT ON new glorified one.

" likeness "
When God put dust of Adam together, it's called creation ... That's New body, not transformation.

You singlehandedly prove Jesus body wasn't transformed but another was given . Remember what apply to Jesus , apply to his disciples.

**The worst part is that They will be Spirit's (John 3:6 ) , showing Jesus is not flesh and bones

The glorified body like that of Christ.
And born of FLESH WILL BECOME FLESH

So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

That's the question!

Now it's my wahala but you're fuming in your mouth before.

But Christ claimed to have flesh and bones!

I'm still waiting for this question:

So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

Case of identity NOT nature.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:20pm On Oct 05, 2020

MaxInDHouse:

Flesh and blood will not be part of the rulers but will surely be in Paradise (where citizens under the rulership of God's Kingdom lives) Luke 23:43

....

U dey mind am. Adam and Eve were not even flesh and blood when they were under God's rulership on Earth. grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:22pm On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:

....

U dey mind am. Adam and Eve were not even flesh and blood when they were under God's rulership on Earth.

He loves agitating but i wonder why he's not doing so with all other forms of teachings as if they're all in agreement! cheesy

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:26pm On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:
Who ask you this ?

Your dull brain!

God's nature is Spirit. And Jesus isnt a Spirit. He is not in God's nature. Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

Case closed.

Jesus resurrected with flesh and bones from Jesus mouth Himself.

If it's the same appearance, she won't have problem identifying him before that call. The call refer to his manner of calling her name. , In another instance, they only recognize him BY HOW HE BROKE BREAD . Not appearance . Evidence of Materialization ...

" Then the two told what had happened on the way, and how Jesus was recognized by them when he broke the bread." Luke 24:35

Another lie from the lying mouth.

Even the verse you quoted goes against you.

"How JESUS was recognized by them WHEN he broke the bread" not THE WAY HE BROKE THE BREAD

Shameless liar.

Mary didn't know who he was . Clearly not the Face he knew. A Gardener !!

So which body did Jesus ascend to heaven with?

Why did Mary turn TWO TIMES?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:36pm On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:

" likeness " When God put dust of Adam together, it's called creation ... That's New body, not transformation.

THE LIKENESS is being MAN with a glorified body, not a spirit being.

So God destroyed Jesus body and he created another spirit being, as you doctrine.

You singlehandedly prove Jesus body wasn't transformed but another was given . Remember what apply to Jesus , apply to his disciples.

The body Jesus died with was raised to live. The same body not another.

Our decayed bodies will be raised to life and those who still alive will be transformed.

**The worst part is that They will be Spirit's (John 3:6 ) , showing Jesus is not flesh and bones

This is my post you're still dodging:

And born of FLESH WILL BECOME FLESH
So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

Case of identity NOT nature.

Case of proof by Jesus Himself.

"It is I Myself"

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:38pm On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

Your dull brain!

Sorry ehn , I can feel your pain grin

Jesus resurrected with flesh and bones from Jesus mouth Himself.

A case of identity NOT Nature.

Or you mean he doesn't have God's nature ? grin

then I will take you serious

Another lie from the lying mouth.

Even the verse you quoted goes against you.

"How JESUS was recognized by them WHEN he broke the bread" not THE WAY HE BROKE THE BREAD

Shameless liar.

So which body did Jesus ascend to heaven with?

Why did Mary turn TWO TIMES?

All the while before that breaking of the bread, they are seeing Someone, but definitely not the Face they knew, just as Mary's case. Evidences of Materialization .

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:43pm On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

THE LIKENESS is being MAN with a glorified body, not a spirit being.

So God destroyed Jesus body and he created another spirit being, as you doctrine.

The body Jesus died with was raised to live. The same body not another.

It means believers body won't decay, any body that turn to dust needs to recreated. Besides Jesus human body is sustained by blood. U can't tell me it's still the same grin

Our decayed bodies will be raised to life and those who still alive will be transformed.

This is my post you're still dodging:

And born of FLESH WILL BECOME FLESH
So those who will live forever on earth will be BORN OF WHAT?

What is born of flesh is flesh .. born by humans, remain humans . Revelation 21:3,4 called them humans. Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

What is born of spirit is spirit ... This ones are going to heaven and will be Spirit's like Jesus Christ.

Case of proof by Jesus Himself.

"It is I Myself"

He doesn't have God's nature . Good one

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:44pm On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:
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U dey mind am. Adam and Eve were not even flesh and blood when they were under God's rulership on Earth.

So Adam and Eve were spirits when they were on EARTH.....

JWs dilemma!

Me: Everybody will have Christ type of resurrection

Jws: No! That's not scriptural. Scripture says, some will become Spirit beings and rule with Christ and 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven", so some will be resurrected on earth with FLESH AND BLOOD.

Me: But earth is under of kingdom of heaven

Jws: Yes!

Me: But you just said above that FLESH AND BLOOD can't inherit kingdom of heaven.

Jws: Yes! People will be resurrected on earth with flesh and blood.

Me: Then kingdom of heaven does not extend to earth then!

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:46pm On Oct 05, 2020

Emusan:

So Adam and Eve were spirits when they were on EARTH.....

JWs dilemma!

Me: Everybody will have Christ type of resurrection

Jws: No! That's not scriptural. Scripture says, some will become Spirit beings and rule with Christ and 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven", so some will be resurrected on earth with FLESH AND BLOOD.

Me: But earth is under of kingdom of heaven

Jws: Yes!

Me: But you just said above that FLESH AND BLOOD can't inherit kingdom of heaven.

Jws: Yes! People will be resurrected on earth with flesh and blood.

Me: Then kingdom of heaven does not extend to earth then!

Adam and Eve been flesh and blood on Earth when God rules them is enough to have open your senses that you misapplied the scripture. Kingdom of God in that context refer to heavenly life.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:50pm On Oct 05, 2020

Barristter07:
Sorry ehn , I can feel your pain

As your severe pains l!

A case of identity NOT Nature.

Or you mean he doesn't have God's nature ? then I will take you serious

A case of HUMAN NATURE

He has always existed in God's nature!

Add that to your deluded brain.

All the while before that breaking of the bread, they are seeing Someone, but definitely not the Face they knew, just as Mary's case. Evidences of Materialization.

Yet the voice also wasn't known UNTIL HE BREAKS THE BREAD. Delusion!

So Jesus was borrowing voice too.

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