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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 4:00pm On Nov 21
livingchrist:
humans that came from Adam has flesh and blood.
Jesus is the second Adam and all who come through Jesus will bear same image.
So yes Jesus is human only a new type.
The bible already gave you a hint by calling humans flesh and bones even though they had blood, this just to tell you that humans can exist as just flesh and bones without blood.


For the records the second Adam is a Spirit person. He is called a Life giving SPIRIT .

So back to the main point : you have shifted to " new type " , what happen to your reasoning ? You think you can just mush up words and formulars here ? Are you discussing with dummies ?

Hebrews 2:14 said humans are creatures of flesh and blood , the Bible further said No flesh can exist without blood . Leviticus 17:11

For Jesus to be human, it means he has blood.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by sonmvayina(m): 5:04pm On Nov 21
When humans die, it means their spirit bring separated from their body..the spirit returns to God who gave it and the body back to the earth where it was taken. If jesus really existed (for the sake of this discussion ) how is his case different . The only thing might be that the scorging and crucification put him in coma, which might be what John was hinting at when he said Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrhh and aloes. Which are herbs for healing ,not for embalming..

Too many inconsistencies
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 5:06pm On Nov 21
haddeylium:


Exactly man!
@bolden
This is to show that a human body(Even if it's perfect like Jesus) is corruptible. It can be killed!

That's why Apostle Paul that the resurrected Jesus was “Never no more to return to corruption.” (Acts 13:34)
That is that is, never to return to life in a corruptible human body. compare with (1 Corinthians 15:43, 44)
grab?

Jesus was resurrected as a glorious spirit body which is incorruptible, invisible and Immaterial.

Thanks
grin you are blind Abu? Didnt you see where it said Jesus flesh didnt suffer corruption
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 5:13pm On Nov 21
Barristter07:


For the records the second Adam is a Spirit person. He is called a Life giving SPIRIT .

So back to the main point : you have shifted to " new type " , what happen to your reasoning ? You think you can just mush up words and formulars here ? Are you discussing with dummies ?

Hebrews 2:14 said humans are creatures of flesh and blood , the Bible further said No flesh can exist without blood . Leviticus 17:11

For Jesus to be human, it means he has blood.
man has Spirit, Jesus also has Spirit,
The second Adam being a life giving Spirit is in reference to Jesus spirit, it doesnt negate the fact that Jesus is human.
Jesus is both human and God all in one.

Jesus has to become part of the old human in order to redeem them,
Leviticus is only describing the old human/ animal life which is in the blood.

The life of the new human is not the old life that depends on blood.
Every human posses the old life that depend on blood but the new humans possess life that doesnt depend on blood but on Christ himself.
smiley

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 5:36pm On Nov 21
livingchrist:
grin you are blind Abu? Didnt you see where it said Jesus flesh didnt suffer corruption

Good you notice the clause now
Its an insult to equate Jesus kingship status in heaven to a lowly human nature he sacrificed

Human body is a corruptible one!

1 cor15:42- So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption(Human); it is raised up in incorruption( Spirit)

He was buried in Human body/nature which is a corruptible one but he was raised as spirit (1 Pet 3:18) which is incorruptible!

Now compare with the verse you quoted
that the resurrected Jesus was “Never no more to return to corruption.” (Acts 13:34)

The Lord Jesus is now a glorious spirit person in heaven ruling as King wink
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 7:34pm On Nov 21
Barristter07:

For the records the second Adam is a Spirit person. He is called a Life giving SPIRIT.
John6:63, John 5:21.
He's been quickening since the time on earth. Talk another one!

Hebrews 2:14 said humans are creatures of flesh and blood , the Bible further said No flesh can exist without blood . Leviticus 17:11
Wisdom beckoneth, yet the fool rejects her in ignorance.
The wisdom behind that same Lev 17:11 is what would have opened your eyes to the truth of Jesus body resurrected.
Ohhh, I do wish the Lord opens your eyes to see, and he open your ears to ear.

For Jesus to be human, it means he has blood.
Says who?
Adam confirmed Eve as human - Flesh and Bones.

Christ confirmed himself as human - flesh and bones.

PS: Whenever you grow the liver to answer my question, do answer it. For now, you never fit.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:58pm On Nov 21
haddeylium:


Good you notice the clause now
Its an insult to equate Jesus kingship status in heaven to a lowly human nature he sacrificed

Human body is a corruptible one!

1 cor15:42- So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption(Human); it is raised up in incorruption( Spirit)

He was buried in Human body/nature which is a corruptible one but he was raised as spirit (1 Pet 3:18) which is incorruptible!

Now compare with the verse you quoted
that the resurrected Jesus was “Never no more to return to corruption.” (Acts 13:34)

The Lord Jesus is now a glorious spirit person in heaven ruling as King wink


You cannot take a clause without considering the context in which it was used.
.



Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.


Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Jesus soul was in hell (which is a place of corruption) but was raised not to return to it anymore.


Jesus flesh never saw corruption although he was in the place of corruption Acts 13vv34 which is the grave, God raised him up from that place of corruption never to return to it.

grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 9:57pm On Nov 21
Barristter07:
The same masculine gender was applied to the Father , is he human ?

So you lied when you made this claim "SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Like I said, if I didn't tutor you, you won't have sense.

For Jesus to be human, he must have blood . Hebrews 2:14 Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Either admit this or keep ranting

The simple question is

Is Jesus still a Mediator in heaven now?

You can't run away from that question.


But they are Spirits . Oga give me where they are called Human beings ? grin

Into your dull skull again, The word translated as Elders HAS NEVER been used for a SPIRIT BEING this proves that they are Human.


Humans are Male and Females , So how is there no Male and female ? Is something doing your head ni grin ?

In Christ there's no MALE AND FEMALE....this nullified your lies of gender.

Unless you tell me, you're not IN CHRIST.

If people remain humans in heaven, they exist as Male and Females. contradicting that verse

Which verse?

The same body that has rot and become dust will be put on. it's TOTAL Change not putting new over the rotten one , use your God given sense .

NEW BODIES...olodo!

The one we have now we put it ON which means something is inside the BODY which is our SPIRIT.

And the new body - Spirit body or Human body ?

If you say spirit body okay.

But human body, Humans are flesh and blood and humans are males and females, will they be male and Female in Christ?

In resurrection what you sowed is what it raised.

We sowed Human Body and it will raise as Human body not BECOMING SPIRIT BEING.

There's no male and female IN CHRIST.

Robot , you have replied with this again. It's very clear you can't counter that point. E big pass you

Since what appear to Thomas is a Glorious body, ressurected ones will also retain Wounds and marks , Hunchback, accident burns , so far it's to be fashioned like that of Christ which has wounds .

So I'm a robot now, e pain am!

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

If this is not a counter then continue to live in your delusion.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:06pm On Nov 21
Barristter07:
Radarada grin in your bid to prove nonsense , you cage yourself. If unbelievers don't have spirit of God , how come their mortal bodies are Made Alive too ? In short they get the same spiritual body , O ma se fun Emusan o grin

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

Shebi holy spirit is a person and a " He " , according to your rants on this thread . You have your answer .

See painment!

But I didn't claim Holy Spirit slept with Mary.

So don't use style to boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DeOTR: 10:11pm On Nov 21
haddeylium:



So, Jesus is with human body(Visible, material) in heaven?
In a Glorified body. Every one who hears the call on the last day will be transformed the same way.
Nothing suggests Celestial beings are immaterial or invisible.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DeOTR: 10:30pm On Nov 21
sonmvayina:
When humans die, it means their spirit bring separated from their body..the spirit returns to God who gave it and the body back to the earth where it was taken. If jesus really existed (for the sake of this discussion ) how is his case different . The only thing might be that the scorging and crucification put him in coma, which might be what John was hinting at when he said Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrhh and aloes. Which are herbs for healing ,not for embalming..

Too many inconsistencies
For the most part, the word spirit pertaining to human lives means breath, according to the Bible. Isn't that what God breathed in Adam nostrils at creation? Breath of life. That's why we must keep breathing to remain alive. Once we breathe our last, we die, and the body becomes dust. There's nothing complicated about it. There's no spirit form (whatever that means), returning to heaven when Man dies.
As for Jesus not actually dying. That's a sick joke. No man can survive crucifixion. More so, not when a spear is thrusted deep into your lungs, and water gushes out of your chest.
There have been prophecies about the death and resurrection of the Messiah hundreds of years before His. Jesus fulfilled every prophecy to the letter. The word of God never lies. It's left for you unbelievers to take it or leave it, it won't change the facts.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:40pm On Nov 21
livingchrist:


You cannot take a clause without considering the context in which it was used.
Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Jesus soul was in hell (which is a place of corruption) but was raised not to return to it anymore.
Jesus flesh never saw corruption although he was in the place of corruption Acts 13vv34 which is the grave, God raised him up from that place of corruption never to return to it.


It's so ridiculous to compare Jesus 'a glorious spirit being' to a lowly human. In comparison to Spirit, being human is a slave form (phillipians 2:7)
Human body is corruptible; even if it perfect. It can suffer decay, it can be injured and can be killed.

First of, Even if this will be the only thing you will gain from this thread. Don't lose it
The Greek word Hades that was translated to Hell means Common grave of mankind . Let's focus on what related to our discuss

I like the fact that you care about context
Now consider these sequence

1 Corinthians 15:42-44
It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption.
It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory.
It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power.
It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body.

Jesus was buried as Human(Physical/Natural body) which is corruptible, a dishonor and weakness.
He was raised as Spirit (Spirit'ual body) which is incorruptible, glorious and powerful.

You dig?

Thanks

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:53pm On Nov 21
DeOTR:

In a Glorified body. Every one who hears the call on the last day will be transformed the same way.
Nothing suggests Celestial beings are immaterial or invisible.

The Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek pneuʹma, which are translated “spirit, means 'Invisibility sir"

Apostle Paul might have predicted this day.
He was inspired to pen the below down after Jesus resurrection and ascenssion to heaven

1 Timothy 6:16
the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.

'Whom no man has seen or can see'
Is it the human nature or the spirit nature?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DeOTR: 12:19am On Nov 22
haddeylium:


The Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek pneuʹma, which are translated “spirit, means 'Invisibility sir"

Apostle Paul might have predicted this day.
He was inspired to pen the below down after Jesus resurrection and ascenssion to heaven

1 Timothy 6:16
the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.

'Whom no man has seen or can see'
Is it the human nature or the spirit nature?
How do you plan to steal a gaze at someone in an unapproachable light? The Glory makes Him invisible, not that He actually is. Jesus Christ is now in His glorious body and now immortal, but He's not invisible, that's why Revelation 1:7 says, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Every eye can not see the invisible One.
And for the record, Pneuma and Ruach mean, air, breath, wind, and not used in the context of invisibility.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:29am On Nov 22
You've agreed It's not compulsory that both of us worship the same God and you are certain yours is the true God.
Automatically other Gods are fake so since you are certain about that, there's no further need of who or what other Gods stand for after all you aren't gonna leave your true God for any reason! undecided



Emusan:

Then who says it's compulsory before?
All I'm asking you is to tell me THE NAME of God you invoke to Bless Me since your own God can't bless.
How is that one an issue?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:46am On Nov 22
The highlighted is not literal, because it's impossible for those who pierced him to be present since they're all dead by now.
Whenever you read something that's not to be taken literal in God's word, you'll find a clue that will serve as a guide to make you know that what you just read is not literal.
What that verse means is that all what Jesus foretold as signs of the end will be noticed by all people including those who hated his counseling
For instance, there is nowhere on planet Earth today that you need to start talking about the end of the world as some news, everyone is scared (wailing) now because it's so obvious that there's no future for mankind the way things are going presently. Even many who would easily discard the idea of someone being God's only begotten SON are saying the world is coming to an end and if you ask them why they're saying this majority will say it has been heard or written whereas they can't point or mention anyone who foretold such apart from the man from Nazareth! smiley






DeOTR:

How do you plan to steal a gaze at someone in an unapproachable light? The Glory makes Him invisible, not that He actually is. Jesus Christ is now in His glorious body and now immortal, but He's not invisible, that's why Revelation 1:7 says, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Every eye can not see the invisible One.
And for the record, Pneuma and Ruach mean, air, breath, wind, and not used in the context of invisibility.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 5:32am On Nov 22
livingchrist:
man has Spirit, Jesus also has Spirit,

It didn't say Jesus has spirit. It says Jesus is a Spirit. And this spirit gives life .

Not has a Spirit . You lied .



The second Adam being a life giving Spirit is in reference to Jesus spirit, it doesnt negate the fact that Jesus is human.
Jesus is both human and God all in one.

Spirit actually doesn't have flesh and bones

Like I said it doesn't say Jesus has a life giving Spirit. It says Jesus IS .

Are you this low in thinking ?


Jesus has to become part of the old human in order to redeem them,
Leviticus is only describing the old human/ animal life which is in the blood.
The life of the new human is not the old life that depends on blood.
Every human posses the old life that depend on blood but the new humans possess life that doesnt depend on blood but on Christ himself.
smiley

The word " old human" and " new human" are pure lies from livingchrist , Not scriptural.

The name human itself was given to Creatures of flesh and blood at Genesis 5:2. To be called Human, a person has to be flesh and blood Hebrews 2:14

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 5:34am On Nov 22
Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See painment!

But I didn't claim Holy Spirit slept with Mary.

So don't use style to boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

You are just a robot . U can refer back to my previous post . Romans 8:11 you cant debunk, just making baseless noises, since Spirit have genders, deal with it.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:04am On Nov 22
Blabbermouth:

John6:63, John 5:21.
He's been quickening since the time on earth. Talk another one!
Jesus IS a Life giving Spirit . Do you recall a Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones ?



Wisdom beckoneth, yet the fool rejects her in ignorance.
The wisdom behind that same Lev 17:11 is what would have opened your eyes to the truth of Jesus body resurrected.
Ohhh, I do wish the Lord opens your eyes to see, and he open your ears to ear.

Says who?
Adam confirmed Eve as human - Flesh and Bones.

Christ confirmed himself as human - flesh and bones.

PS: Whenever you grow the liver to answer my question, do answer it. For now, you never fit.
Brain dead analogy, at 2Samuel 19:12 , People with blood were confirmed as Flesh and bones .
" You are my brothers; you are my bone and my flesh. Why then should you be the last to bring back the king?’ "

In Blabbermouth low thinking, those men don't have blood , You are not wise .

Leviticus 17:11 says the life of the Flesh is in the blood. As long as Adam and Eve were made as Flesh , like every other animals with flesh, they have blood.

1Timothu 2:5 said Jesus gave himself as corresponding ransom , " corresponding " means equal ransom to what Adam lost, if Adam has no blood, Jesus is not a corresponding ransom.

Your assumption is just silly at its best .

Deal with it, humans have flesh and blood, For Jesus to be human, He has blood.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 6:37am On Nov 22
Emusan:


So you lied when you made this claim "SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Like I said, if I didn't tutor you, you won't have sense.

If you don't understand something, you ask: The gender of the word rendered Spirit at John 4:24 is neuter . Neither male not female.

That's my point.

The Father is never called man or human, cos he has no blood like humans . Anything human possess blood. Without it, no life as flesh


The simple question is


Is Jesus still a Mediator in heaven now?


You can't run away from that question.

Since you decide to be stupid to the Fact that the word man was reference to his ransom sacrifice ... Yes. And take note as well the word human used for Jesus is the same one used for flesh and blood people .



Into your dull skull again, The word translated as Elders HAS NEVER been used for a SPIRIT BEING this proves that they are Human.


False : the Elders themselves are Spirit beings , not men. Can you show me where they are called men ?


In Christ there's no MALE AND FEMALE ....this nullified your lies of gender.

Unless you tell me, you're not IN CHRIST.

Which verse?


Humans are Male and Females .

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” Genesis 5:2

" according to the promise. " Galatians 3:29

This is a reference to their existence in the Promised Divine nature like God , which is neither male nor female.



NEW BODIES...olodo!

The one we have now we put it ON which means something is inside the BODY which is our SPIRIT.

The human spirit is his breath . Jesus spirit retuning to his Father doesn't mean Jesus returned. Note that difference before u spit nonsense. The verse refer to a change.


In resurrection what you sowed is what it raised.

We sowed Human Body and it will raise as Human body not BECOMING SPIRIT BEING.

There's no male and female IN CHRIST.

What is born of spirit is not flesh .



So I'm a robot now, e pain am!

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

If this is not a counter then continue to live in your delusion.

grin na serious Wah. So it won't be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body which has wound ? grin grin grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by sonmvayina(m): 7:02am On Nov 22
DeOTR:

For the most part, the word spirit pertaining to human lives means breath, according to the Bible. Isn't that what God breathed in Adam nostrils at creation? Breath of life. That's why we must keep breathing to remain alive. Once we breathe our last, we die, and the body becomes dust. There's nothing complicated about it. There's no spirit form (whatever that means), returning to heaven when Man dies.
As for Jesus not actually dying. That's a sick joke. No man can survive crucifixion. More so, not when a spear is thrusted deep into your lungs, and water gushes out of your chest.
There have been prophecies about the death and resurrection of the Messiah hundreds of years before His. Jesus fulfilled every prophecy to the letter. The word of God never lies. It's left for you unbelievers to take it or leave it, it won't change the facts.

Can you quote the relevant prophesies ?..I would love to see them..Don't go pulling out Isaiah 53, because it is talking about a faithful servant ...and 8 times prior to chapter 53, Isaiah already said the servant was Israel..look up Isaiah 41:5-9
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by sonmvayina(m): 10:03am On Nov 22
DeOTR:

For the most part, the word spirit pertaining to human lives means breath, according to the Bible. [b]Isn't that what God breathed in Adam nostrils at creation? Breath of life. That's why we must keep breathing to remain alive. Once we breathe our last, we die, and the body becomes dust. [/b]There's nothing complicated about it. There's no spirit form (whatever that means), returning to heaven when Man dies.
As for Jesus not actually dying. That's a sick joke. No man can survive crucifixyion. More so, not when a spear is thrusted deep into your lungs, and water gushes out of your chest.
There have been prophecies about the death and resurrection of the Messiah hundreds of years before His. Jesus fulfilled every prophecy to the letter. The word of God never lies. It's left for you unbelievers to take it or leave it, it won't change the facts.

So what is jesus saving? The body that returns to dust or the breath of God that returns to him ?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:48am On Nov 22
DeOTR:

How do you plan to steal a gaze at someone in an unapproachable light? The Glory makes Him invisible, not that He actually is. Jesus Christ is now in His glorious body and now immortal, but He's not invisible, that's why Revelation 1:7 says, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Every eye can not see the invisible One.
And for the record, Pneuma and Ruach mean, air, breath, wind, and not used in the context of invisibility.

Bros, no !
Every eyes will see his execution of righteous judgment, but Jesus and the angels would be invincible
2 Thess 1:7-9
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 12:41pm On Nov 22
haddeylium:


It's so ridiculous to compare Jesus 'a glorious spirit being' to a lowly human. In comparison to Spirit, being human is a slave form (phillipians 2:7)
Human body is corruptible; even if it perfect. It can suffer decay, it can be injured and can be killed.

First of, Even if this will be the only thing you will gain from this thread. Don't lose it
The Greek word Hades that was translated to Hell means Common grave of mankind . Let's focus on what related to our discuss

I like the fact that you care about context
Now consider these sequence

1 Corinthians 15:42-44
It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption.
It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory.
It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power.
It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body.

Jesus was buried as Human(Physical/Natural body) which is corruptible, a dishonor and weakness.
He was raised as Spirit (Spirit'ual body) which is incorruptible, glorious and powerful.

You dig?

Thanks
Corruptible body doesnt mean it suffered corruption a
you are deluded, Jesus didnt suffer corruption.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 12:46pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:


It didn't say Jesus has spirit. It says Jesus is a Spirit. And this spirit gives life .

Not has a Spirit . You lied .



Spirit actually doesn't have flesh and bones

Like I said it doesn't say Jesus has a life giving Spirit. It says Jesus IS .

Are you this low in thinking ?



The word " old human" and " new human" are pure lies from livingchrist , Not scriptural.

The name human itself was given to Creatures of flesh and blood at Genesis 5:2. To be called Human, a person has to be flesh and blood Hebrews 2:14


Jesus has flesh and bones argue with yourself
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:50pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
Jesus has flesh a d bones argue with yourself
grin grin grin
Some men are called flesh and bones too, na you quote am yourself o , does that mean they don't have blood ? Jesus to be an human, required blood

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:52pm On Nov 22
MaxInDHouse:
You've agreed It's not compulsory that both of us worship the same God and you are certain yours is the true God.
Automatically other Gods are fake so since you are certain about that, there's no further need of who or what other Gods stand for after all you aren't gonna leave your true God for any reason! undecided

Cry of a deluded soul!

Nobody is talking about WORSHIPPING of different Gods here except to your deluded mind!

You said "God bless me" and you went further to say "My OWN GOD can't bless you"

So which god did you INVOKE TO BLESS me when your OWN GOD can't bless me? Is the simple question I'm asking.

You know you have entered one chance by that statement.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 12:53pm On Nov 22
DeOTR:

How do you plan to steal a gaze at someone in an unapproachable light? The Glory makes Him invisible, not that He actually is. Jesus Christ is now in His glorious body and now immortal, but He's not invisible, that's why Revelation 1:7 says, Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Every eye can not see the invisible One.
And for the record, Pneuma and Ruach mean, air, breath, wind, and not used in the context of invisibility.


Confirm using concordance. Anything tagged Spirit has root base of invisibility.
Yes! Air, breathe , air in motion are invisible.

God is invisible because he's a spirit(1Ti 1:17, John 4:24)
He made his Sons in heaven Spirit too. They're invisible but can take materialized human body to be visible.

What makes you think the glorious body is a Human 'physical body and not Spirit 'Spirit'ual body?

Jesus is a Spirit in his prehuman existence existing in God's form(Php 2:5-cool.
The glorious body he possessed was that of 'Spirit'
Took the form of slave by becoming Human. After his earthly course, he was resurrected as 'Spirit being' back

John 17:4, 5
So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.


Jesus Glory before the world was ...Of human or Spirit?

Thanks

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:57pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:


You are just a robot . U can refer back to my previous post . Romans 8:11 you cant debunk, just making baseless noises, since Spirit have genders, deal with it.

So your delusion has finally been cured!

See the idiot, who quoted Romans 8:11, you or me?

Imagine, I should debunk the verse I cited...wonders of believer in human turns to spirit being.

Just tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb, is what I'm asking!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:02pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


So your delusion has finally been cured!

See the idiot, who quoted Romans 8:11, you or me?

Imagine, I should debunk the verse I cited...wonders of believer in human turns to spirit being.

Just tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb, is what I'm asking!

You actually quoted it when you were asked What's the difference between Sinners human body and the so called human spiritual body ( a term not even scriptural )

You now quote and said Believers body are quickened by the spirit , but Sinners are not.

That time your small thinking forgot that Quickened means to make Alive , So in short sinners also got spiritual body too since their mortal bodies were made alive .

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 1:25pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
If you don't understand something, you ask: The gender of the word rendered Spirit at John 4:24 is neuter . Neither male not female.

See the lying liar mouth, no wonder your father the Devil is so much proud of you


The idiot now twisted it to John 4:24 when he openly said "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

This is even in support of his claim that Angels HAS NO GENDER which means whenever the heavenly beings are being discussed in the scripture it is always in NEUTER.

But after the lying liar was debunked that masculine noun is being used for Jesus even after His resurrection, the tune change.

Oponu oniro jatijati.

That's my point.

The Father is never called man or human, cos he has no blood like humans . Anything human possess blood. Without it, no life as flesh

That's not your point, your point to proof that Angels don't marry since they have no genders leads to that your lies above.

Another lie from the lying liar mouth!

Jehovah is A MAN of war! Says the Holy scripture.

My point is, the word translated as PEOPLE, HUMAN in Rev 21:3 was also used for Jesus. QED!

Since you decide to be stupid to the Fact that the word man was reference to his ransom sacrifice ... Yes. And take note as well the word human used for Jesus is the same one used for flesh and blood people.

As your stupidity has First Class upper.

Does Jesus still the Mediator now in heaven? This question will continue to put your lying mouth in coven of your father the Devil.

False : the Elders themselves are Spirit beings , not men. Can you show me where they are called men?

So you then agree that the word MAN (which means flesh and blood according to you) can be used for a spirit being which rendered your Rev 21:3 useless as your lying organization.

THE WORD TRANSLATED as Elders has never been used for a spirit being because it is ONLY USED FOR MAN(FLESH AND BLOOD).

Your delusion and confusion just begin.

Humans are Male and Females .

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” Genesis 5:2

" according to the promise. " Galatians 3:29

This is a reference to their existence in the Promised Divine nature like God , which is neither male nor female.

In Christ Jesus there's NO MALE OR FEMALE.

Are you In Christ Jesus?

The human spirit is his breath . Jesus spirit retuning to his Father doesn't mean Jesus returned. Note that difference before u spit nonsense. The verse refer to a change.


At least the SPIRIT belongs to Jesus which negates your lying doctrine that NOTHING SURVIVES AFTER DEATH.

And that verse proves beyond reasonable doubt that, the heavenly HOMES(NEW BODIES) will be put on like clothes not to that people will turn to spirit being all of a sudden.

What is born of spirit is not flesh

Sure as flesh is corrupted but only the things of SPIRIT live forever.

grin na serious Wah. So it won't be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body which has wound ? grin grin grin

Your delusion is getting cured little by little. Just wait it'll fully respond.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:26pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:

grin grin grin
Some men are called flesh and bones too, na you quote am yourself o , does that mean they don't have blood ? Jesus to be an human, required blood

only humans are called flesh and bones, You claim spirit materialize body right and they are called humans, at the same time time contradict yourself that blood is required to be humans. grin
It means spirit's can not materialize to become humans but yet Jesus is called humans.
See your life

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