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Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by skj1377(m): 5:39pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
yes, and they also get good husbands. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Dangerousboy:Did God somehow tell you that you should ONLY obey His Laws that are written on tablets of stone? Jesus Christ is the Word directly of God's Mouth to you , delivering to you a New Covenant, a Law/standard for living in the Kingdom of God. Instead of the Old commandments, He gave you new measures by which to weigh yourselves.... 1. Instead of “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” , Jesus Christ declared that you cannot serve two masters - Matthew 6 vs 24. 2. Instead “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”, Jesus declared that no harm will come to those who insult Him or God, but only to those who insult the Spirit of God, an act He deemed unforgivable - Mark 3 vs 28 - 30. 3. Instead of "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day", Jesus Christ declared “The Sabbath day was made to help people. People were not made to be ruled by the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord of every day, even the Sabbath.” - Mark 2 vs 27 - 28, essentially doing away with the need for a holy day. 4. Instead of "Honor your mother and Father that your days may be long in the land that He have their fathers...", Jesus Christ instead declared that only those who abandon their parents and families for His sake are worthy Him and eternity in His Heaven - Luke 14 vs 26. 5. Instead of “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”, Jesus Christ declared that even by simply lusting in your heart, you are already guilty of adultery - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 30 6. Instead of “Thou shalt not steal. ” , Jesus Christ declared that if you have in your hand something that your neighbor has need of, don't tell him to come tomorrow, give him that which he asked for - Matthew 5 vs 42 7. Instead of "Thou shall not Kill", Jesus instead declared that “You have heard that it was said to our people long ago, ‘You must not murder anyone.[a] Any person who commits murder will be judged.’ But I tell you, don’t be angry with anyone. If you are angry with others, you will be judged. And if you insult someone, you will be judged by the high court. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell." - Matthew 5 vs 21 - 23 8. Instead of "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor", Jesus Christ declared, " But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." - Matthew 12 vs 36 - 37 .......... And He declared that only those who will submit to and obey His teachings and Commandments are those who belong to Him. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by LoveJesus87(m): 5:43pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
juseng:Thank you sir 1 Like |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 5:44pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
djon78:How do you Love God with all of your heart, mind, body and soul? How do you love your neighbor as you love your own self? The details of the above are found written of in the other laws. The two greatest laws are just that, the two greatest and not given you even by Jesus Christ as the two ONLY laws. Jesus Christ warned you against focusing on obeying some of His laws while ignoring the others. The Law is absolute - all or nothing- you break or ignore one, you might as well have broken or ignored them all. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by mitje(m): 5:44pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
CharisEleos: I like this. You will go far!! � 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Dangerousboy(m): 5:47pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:omg! But I just showed you from the scripture that every thing, all these laws are summed up in love. What else do you want? I just showed you something that everyone would grasp easily. Love is the New testament law. 1 Like |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by apkgameer: 5:47pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
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Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Nobody: 5:47pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You know you are always viewing your own things from a another angle. Lemme jor |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Homebaked: 5:48pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Nowadays christians love quoting old testament texts and declaring the promises therein without examining the reality through the Christian principles the claim to uphold. Jesus only promised eternal reward in Heaven. He was never particular about being rich here on Earth by being true to the gospel. Prosperity preachers, seeing scanty justification for their doctrine, are turning to old testament for promises that apply only to the Israelite nation. Infact, pursuit of riches for it's own sake is not encouraged in Christianity. Persistent hardwork and doggedness brings about wealth regardless of the tribe or creed one subscribes to. The richest christians around are pastors but the richest people on Earth are not christians. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by BDXTRA: 5:48pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Mutaultope: I can't have put it better! You said it perfectly. Those perceived wayward (it is not all of them that are wayward sef) are quickly exposed to reality and they could early see the difficult terrains of life and they knew they had to buckle up, ELSE ......... |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by BDXTRA: 5:50pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
shekauvsbuhari: Perfectly said! in fact, you did justice to it. 1 Like |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by simplesearch: 5:51pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
SocialJustice: My brother sometimes what we suffer is lack of faith. Unfortunately we tie our mistakes and lack of spiritual understanding around God. God does not fail and can never lie or deny himself, all we need to do is to understand how he works and probably seek for counsel and support where necessary, to prevent the devil from taken advantage of our situation thereby planting the seed of bitterness in our heart against God. God doesn't just help those who trust him in time past, he does so even until now. Sometimes the door opens, God answered our prayers but we keep praying waiting for God to answer the same prayer he already answered, that alone can result into frustration, unbelieve and backsliding. This is what Jesus said, and I hope you can take God at face value from today by repenting of your unbelieve, prayers laced with vain repetitions and manifesting pity instead of faith. Matthew 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by djon78(m): 5:51pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You are the one confusing yourself Jesus said that the law and the prophets rest on those two cardinal laws of loving God and your neighbor It you love God you won't worship other gods You will not swear falsely You will do what will please him If you love your neighbor You won't cover his wife You won't steal from him You won't kill him You won't bear false witness against him Or do any harm to him Rather you will do good to him So loving God and your fellow man You have fulfilled every law By that act of love Love is the greatest So I believe you are confusing yourself |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by apkgameer: 5:54pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
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Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Yankee101: 5:55pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Definitely not true |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 5:56pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Odidigboigbo:1. Did you ever read Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 where it clearly tells you that God intentionally excluded all those of gentile roots from His Old Covenant. The Old Covenant Law(and its blessings) belong only to those who are of the blood of Jacob - and the foreigners who live among them in the land of Canaan. 2. In John 16 vs 33, Jesus Christ declared that You will have suffering in this world but Be courageous! I have conquered the world.” Is your Christianity different from that prescribed by even Jesus Christ? |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Martinez39s(m): 5:56pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Bola146:You are very silly. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Scarfin(m): 5:57pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:A lot! Smartness groomed from the church changes the world. Everywhere. Check out the big smart names in most sectors. Most were groomed from the church. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Karleb(m): 6:00pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
One thing I would like to point out is, this statement is not entirely true. Also, there is difference between book smartness and street smartness. Most ardent church/mosque goers are not street smart, most non church/mosque goers are street smart. Street smartness trumps book smartness anytime anyday. As for religious lady not getting a partner on time, that's mostly their faults. https://www.nairaland.com/6616847/after-introduction-im-seeing-too Take a look at this thread. This girl is about to lose a good man because he attends catholic and doesn't go to every church program. That's how foolish and selective many of them are when they are young. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Lovelyperson(m): 6:00pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
merryossai: You have sense.. More wisdom comes your way |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 6:00pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
djon78:Those in bold are additional laws....so clearly you don't even believe in only just the two greatest laws you stated. You have a decision to make.. will you believe the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ or will you continue to invest instead in doctrines and teachings of men which amount to lies where the Truth of God is concerned? That choice is yours to make while you still breath. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Lawmak: 6:01pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
obembet:Who told you that those who lived wayward life in school gets better opportunities thereafter. I am a living example. Your post is misleading. In UNN I was then (2007set) a member of NFCS. Nigerian Federation of Catholic Students. At a time I was the Financial Secretary. Presently, I earn more than a million Maria monthly and I have prospects. By next year, I would be earning around 5million monthly. I work in the brewery as a contractor. Please don't be decieved. Pray as if everything depends on God and work as if everything depends on you. Stop discouraging people who have decided to do good and live a decent life. 1 Like |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 6:01pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Scarfin:You are taking of smartness groomed in the church to change the world by world standards or by God's standards? This is confusing.... |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Martinez39s(m): 6:02pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
CharisEleos:... 2 Likes
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Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Volkswagen90: Riiiight 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by djon78(m): 6:07pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Like I said You are totally confusing yourself I quoted what Jesus said And we have the laws 10 commandments Which Christ mentioned That's it's all centred on loving God and your fellow man But you are outrightly confused Go and study and get enlightened of God's word Seems you are using human reasoning to interpret the scriptures I can't offer any help to you |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by geotosin: 6:10pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Interesting post! Christianity is a very dangerous religion for those who do not understand the Bible. I mean those who only follows what their pastors taught them alone. The bible says: you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Truth here means original information. Information can be dangerous when it is not the truth. So many Christians have been fed with wrong information, most especially on socialism. When it comes to the use of possessions and possibilities, Jesus Christ taught that a person of Christian faith can learn from those who do not profess Christian theism. This is because the Children of the world understands how the social terrain works, and uses it to their advantage. Most of the people you see as being wayward are often times not the case, some only socialize for the gains it brings. This, Jesus taught very well. However, your pastors will never teach you, so as to keep controlling you. “[T]he sons of the world are for their own generation wiser than the children of light” (Luke 16:. They often invest more money and market their products, publications, and programs with more shrewdness, while holding themselves to a higher standard of aggressiveness and aesthetics, than many believers in Christ often do. Remember the command in Genesis, it says "take dominion of the earth" i.e make of the earth whatever you wish. Jesus himself says "occupy till I come". How can one fulfill this command? You need to socialize, develop your gift or a product, then use it to your advantage. Unfortunately, Christianity as a religion will only teach you to keep praying for jobs that doesn't exist anymore. I wish I could tell you more........may the holy spirit help you to understand this. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Odidigboigbo(m): 6:11pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Which Deuteronomy 30 are you quoting? Please read your Bible if you're far from Bible, is the Book you just quoted. "Deuteronomy30:15-20 New International Version 15 See, I set before you today life(A) and prosperity,(B) death(C) and destruction.(D) 16 For I command you today to love(E) the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live(F) and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed.(G) You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you(H) that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses.(I) Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love(J) the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life,(K) and he will give(L) you many years in the land(M) he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 6:12pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
CharisEleos:If What even Jesus Christ declared is another angle, don't you think the problem is instead with the way you still see things? Those who are unbelievers are not under Law - their judgement was sets since Adam and Jesus Christ did not condemn them to anymore judgement than that- John 3 vs 16 - 21 Those of us, however, who believe are under Law and a new yoke that we are to live by. We are even promise suffering and tribulations and the only way to win, this not according to world standards but standards that apply to the Kingdom of God is to continually submit and obey the teachings and commandments of the Law to which we are slaves to. Those unbelievers do not have the same restrictions on their existence so they live as they like until they die and the end for them - all by world measures. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Elvis778(m): 6:14pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
HeadNigga:Exactly, it's not about waywardness, most of them are not wayward, they are just very social and have the opportunity to grab ideas from all angle, and are even motivated to harness opportunities even while in school.....but the overtly religious ones are mainly focused in school and religion, everything about them is dedicated to school, most of them don't have a plan B cuz they don't even socialize with every other person(fear of turning wayward I guess) talk more of gaining new ideas, they tend to look down on opportunities due to their belief, someone in my department once said crypto and Forex trading is a sin and all sinners shall go to hell.....well, just like that he overlooked the opportunity.....even if tomorrow, u are the head of a company and need someone with sound business mind to handle a position, or u are asked to recommend someone for such position, will u recommend such a person?....being religious is ok, focusing on school is cool too, but to succeed in life, u have to balance the equation.... College degree is something but not everything, atmost it would make you an employee, but if u don't push more in life, u can never be an employer. |
Re: Those Who Lived Wayward Life In School Get Better Opportunities Than Church Goer by Kobojunkie: 6:15pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Odidigboigbo:Are you descended from all 3 men listed above? Are you of that bloodline? |
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