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The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) / Winners Chapel Sack Pastors For Not Meeting Financial Targets / Lady Twerks In Church During Tithe And Offering (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by NwaliE01: 10:56am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy: Including people like you. You’re fortunate I don’t know you in person. I would have single handedly make sure you follow me to church. Saul was more stringent and mean in destroying believers of Jesus Christ until God touched him and he was named Paul and he became a bold evangelist of Jesus Christ. Souls are perishing everyday and my desire is to ensure that more souls are won to the Kingdom of God. If you’re a believer, join me in this conquest brother. Shalom! 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Ammishaddai: 10:57am On Jul 20, 2021 |
[s] Gambit23:[/s] A religion that is more than 2000 years old is what is about to die? Baba, your mumu no get part 2 1 Like |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Naijboy: 10:59am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Indispensable85:Do you think that they didn't do that. You are not a winner but an imposter. If you are a Winner you will not be here rubbishing your church in public because of an unserious man who called himself a pastor. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by kolaaderin: 10:59am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy:you then fit into the 10% |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by benjida: 11:01am On Jul 20, 2021 |
God bless you my brother. You have said it all. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by jude33084(m): 11:02am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: "Replacing'' as you put it can be in the form of transfer to other branch, not your services is no longer needed? These are two different concept. Did you read the letter? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by buzorcharles(m): 11:02am On Jul 20, 2021 |
"We would go in groups, stopping random people, talking to them about the Jesus, inviting them to church." Why not go Muslim states and do this. U stop ur fellow Christians for road and ask them to come to ur church? SAME THING THEY DO IN THE MARKET WHICH IS CALLED LOOKING FOR CUSTOMERS. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Sulele04(m): 11:03am On Jul 20, 2021 |
temitope27:omo iran kiran, baba e ni oloriburuku. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by KingOfAmebo(m): 11:03am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove: You mean if people got saved in Winners Chapel Anambra branch and decided to relocate to Lagos then the pastor in-charge of Winners Chapel Anambra should be sacked for not meeting up to expectations (growth index). Wether financial or population growth which will eventually translate to more money for the church, This decision by Oyedepo is a clear indication that he is all about winning money into his pocket and not winning souls for God. By their fruits we are beginning to know them. Open your eyes people...emancipate yourself from mental and pocket slavery. When it comes to religion we are number one on the list but when it comes to loving one another as it is tought in all religions we are the worst, We don't practice what we preach. Nigeria is very religious but an unholy country. 2 Likes
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Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by seangy4konji: 11:04am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Pastor no attract yahoo boys and Coded runs babes to church.... |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by jude33084(m): 11:05am On Jul 20, 2021 |
malcom1X: He did not bother to read the letter instead want to defend what he know nothing about? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by BluntTheApostle(m): 11:07am On Jul 20, 2021 |
samwash: Heaven is not about numbers. Please, let us fear the Lord, and stop perverting His word. Christ was never concerned about the number, and salvation is not useless without people. Let everyone turn against Christ, and watch the stones praise Him. You think He feeds on your praise? If God was about numbers, He would have forgiven Satan. In fact, everyone would make Heaven. Yet, He has made the Road so narrow and filled with thorns that only a few would find it. It is the Devil who actually wants numbers because he doesn't want to suffer alone, and wants to take as many people down with him as possible. 3 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Supreme01: 11:07am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Among all the comments I choose to response to yours because your sense is below "very poor" avarage Sulele04: |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Vireani79: 11:07am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove: Brother I am also a member of christ embassy alakija ojo We grew the church from the scratch with pastor Tony ikoku and later his wife late pastor doyin may her soul rest in peace Now I read all u said that's it's not because of tithe and offering U talked about how u go out to win souls and bring them to church Bros let's get this straight The going out thingy in Christ embassy isn't about winning souls We only most times 9 out of 10 just invite them and collect their data Hardly do we really minister to them cos its just a short time every Sunday morning and yes we miss services So it's not something I am not used to During the days of pastor Tony way back 2002 We really did win souls We go to thier houses We sit with them We share our clothes We share our money We find solutions for them Jobs ...clothes ..food ...rent ...even health issues Now when u do that U truly win this people and they too begin to win people That's was how Christ embassy ojo was built till it became a mighty church In the days of sister lilly, dem no born u well not to bring ur report U go win that soul U go bring offering U go bring seeds Why cos u are made to be involved in the lives of these people u meet Now saying that how much them wan bring is degrading becos many of us including me When I came to Christ embassy ojo I was poor Broke Naked But after I began to worship there I began to have I made money and even travelled out to London Many like me I saw in the UK from same Christ embassy ojo So it has nothing to do with how much dem wan bring Cos when God's word hit u right Things will be right in ur life But today how is the same ojo No one cares Church is now a fashion show People only care if u have Look into that brothers/ sisters eyes and say u love him Na only tongue e dey Now back to this topic The pastors are sent to remote areas And yes they are to win souls. But also remember these areas have their traditional churches From cele to c&s to Methodist to basptist to even their traditional worship and even Islam It's not like Lagos or the urban areas It's harder there When I was in illogbo eremi along badagary express way When I lost all I had after I came back from the UK I joined the church there Common giving of 10,000 naira was a challenge for the church Cos people over there are super poor Now this is within Lagos And the pastor there must give report to the church in ijaniki He has to show offerings which most times it's not up to 5k Giving to various ministry departments is another issue Now imagine inside Lagos ohhh Now think of ekiti and all these predominantly farming communities Bros church growth is all encompassing Membership strength Tithes and offerings And seeds The main church was footing the bills of the pastor and the church rent But brother the people he was meeting no agree to change church Also remember the covid lock down made many eyes to wide as many pastors didn't help. And people understood that all man for himself A lot of us don't do church anymore I hardly go to church Even if I go These days pastor go they preach I go dey play candy crush Jesus Christ said a time is coming where people will neither go to the mountains or the temples ( church) but those that worship God will worship him in Spirit and in truth. That time is now Col 2 :17 says the things u see are a shadow of the things to come Our churches messed up They didn't take advantage of the desire of the souls of the people They focused mainly on the gospel of Materialism which many termed prosperity The issue was more about tithe and offerings U can cover it up all u want but many believers like u can see through the bull shit 6 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by 4ckTOT0: 11:08am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove:WHAT AN IDIOT |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by emerged01(m): 11:09am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy:Most people believe church growth is about offering and tithe growth. I used to be a member of Winners chapel but I can tell you that majority of the people the evangelists brought to church then,are poor/needy people,people in depression,sick people,mentally ill people. Tell me how can one preach to rich people to come to church when they cherish their time more than anything? Person wey Dey healthy no Dey go hospital. Sincerely,I can testify to the fact that people you can bring to church are those people loitering on the streets. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by KingOfAmebo(m): 11:10am On Jul 20, 2021 |
You mean if people got saved in Winners Chapel Anambra branch and decided to relocate to Lagos then the pastor in-charge of Winners Chapel Anambra should be sacked for not meeting up to expectations (growth index). Wether financial or population growth which will eventually translate to more money for the church, This decision by Oyedepo is a clear indication that he is all about winning money into his pocket and not winning souls for God. By their fruits we are beginning to know them. Open your eyes people...emancipate yourself from mental and pocket slavery. When it comes to religion we are number one on the list but when it comes to loving one another like it is thought in all religions we are the worst, We don't practice what we preach. Nigeria is very religious but an unholy countr |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by KingOfAmebo(m): 11:10am On Jul 20, 2021 |
You mean if people got saved in Winners Chapel Anambra branch and decided to relocate to Lagos then the pastor in-charge of Winners Chapel Anambra should be sacked for not meeting up to expectations (growth index). Wether financial or population growth which will eventually translate to more money for the church, This decision by Oyedepo is a clear indication that he is all about winning money into his pocket and not winning souls for God. By their fruits we are beginning to know them. Open your eyes people...emancipate yourself from mental and pocket slavery. When it comes to religion we are number one on the list but when it comes to loving one another like it is thought in all religions we are the worst, We don't practice what we preach. Nigeria is very religious but an unholy country
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Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by okonyia(m): 11:11am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Thank you very much sir for this clearificatiin. It's showed you are truly rooted in Christ. May the grace of God continue to guide you in wisdom in Jesus name |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by harqinhola(m): 11:11am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Be lying to yourself .. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by ObaKlaz: 11:12am On Jul 20, 2021 |
They will always be after 'growth index' but Jesus cares more about soul index! Did Jesus hand out employment letters to the 12?! Did Paul give Timothy ID cards and an employment letter?! That article up there is nothing but another weak defense and a boring Supersport analysis! |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Supreme01: 11:13am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Bros, have you read the scripture that says... And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.(Luke14:23)?? If you do not agree to this scripture...you're an antichristian. BluntTheApostle: |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by seborrhic: 11:13am On Jul 20, 2021 |
petra1:You had to quote the whole post just to type this rubbish. Some of you people can be so irritating. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by phemmyfour: 11:14am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2:Hypocrite! You will never see anything wrong with the reason for the sack. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by NamelessOGBENI(m): 11:15am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Thank you OP, We will wait to hear from the other side anytime soon. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Indispensable85(m): 11:15am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Naijboy: Unfortunately I'm not a brainwashed member like you and we're many like that. You become brainwashed and enslaved when you see your GO as your God that can't do wrong or make mistakes. Some of us still have our senses under full control ok? I worship in winners chapel should not make me a conquest ok? My primary focus is on God and my personal relationship with him not winners chapel or the GO. I advise you to emancipate yourself from mental slavery. Make the bible your guide and Jesus Christ your standard not your place of worship or your GO. Stay blessed! 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by BluntTheApostle(m): 11:15am On Jul 20, 2021 |
emerged01: Are you telling me that the Church don't tax these former loiterers? My brother, however you look at it, it is about tithes and offerings. Even those who are unemployed are still subtly threatened into making offerings. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by jaymichael(m): 11:16am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove:This is the link to the videos. I saw the video even before reading the news. Hear from the mouth of the pastor direct . He was sacked because he couldn't generate enough miney. https://thenationonlineng.net/video-winners-chapel-sacked-me-40-other-pastors-for-not-generating-enough-income/ |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by sneak3(m): 11:17am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy: While your mathematical model is accurate that is, more members, more money but have you stopped to think that churches do not compel people to come to a service with money??, Some even provide free transport services for members just to make them come without the excuse of not having Tfare. So how much would such group contributes to the coffers ?? Have you ever heard of a church that refused you entry into a service because you do not have offering? So where is this your notion coming from?? How is church growth index directly translating to finance?? A pastor who has failed to garner incremental growth of the such is axed and you all jumped into the money angle. In your circular organization, are contracts not terminated for under performance?? Why am I not surprised?. Today's generation would have dragged Jesus for cursing the Fig tree for its inability to bear fruit. Pls we shouldn't just say something because it align with our agenda. 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Juspe: 11:18am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Flne |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Nobody: 11:19am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy: Do you understand the write up at all or did you even finish reading it? Tufiakwa!! |
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