Kobojunkie:
I dont believe that part was meant as a figure of speech at all.

Ok

fkj950ax:


This is not in the Bible. Let's stop creating fences for true believers to keep jumping.
And constant demand to quote bible verse is a form of blackmail too.
It is good to be well versed in scripture, but using it as 'evidence' is somehow sha

The scriptures is meant to guide us, so if you’re practicing what is not written there in, you’ve deviated.

worlexy:

Which money did they spend?

Aren’t you the one that said the Israelites had money when they received the law of tithing.. yet God told them to tithe farm produce..

Mtchewwwww...

Dtruthspeaker:


A true believer of God, knows Gods Words and does not require citations.

Jesus always say “Have you not read/heard”

If you’re like Jesus, you would give reference to your claims. But you can’t because you’re fabricating things to be eating people’s money when God never commanded such

Where you not the one who said here

I did, if you think I was wrong, prove me wrong from the scriptures

advanceDNA:


Aren’t you the one that said the Israelites had money when they received the law of tithing.. yet God told them to tithe farm produce..

The scriptures did, I didn’t write Deuteronomy.


Go and read Deuteronomy 14:22-29


22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, cand the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect fthe Levite who is within your towns, for ghe has no portion or inheritance with you.
28 At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.

Youngzedd:


He is right, the law were given to the Jews only. That's jews under Judaism.


Are you a jew?
When a man is ignorant and unaware no man can help him. When a man motives of reading the Bible is to gather points for argument he becomes a thorn in the flesh of the church.


C'mon, you're a Gentile and you have absolutely no business with the laws.

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:27‭-‬29 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gal.3.27-29.KJV

dapadawee:

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:27‭-‬29 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gal.3.27-29.KJV

That verse clearly states that it is in Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law, that there are no distinctions made between peoples.

However, that is not God's rule in the Old Covenant into which only those who are Jews - of the blood of Jacob - are born into - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

worlexy:

The scriptures is meant to guide us, so if you’re practicing what is not written there in, you’ve deviated.

Where is the deviation? And how did you know how and what I practice?
You say a "true believer must quote Bible reference as evidence", my question is where is this in the Bible?

Kobojunkie:
That verse clearly states that it is in Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, that there are no distinctions made between peoples.

However, that is not God's rule in the Old Covenant into which only those who are Jews - of the blood of Jacob - are born into.

God rule is different from Jesus rules right daddy G.O ( general oversabi)

dapadawee:

God rule is different from Jesus rules right daddy G.O ( general oversabi)

God is a God of Laws and every one of His Laws are eternal agreements with those He makes them with - immutable all of them.

God's Old Covenant Law (YHWH) is indeed separate and different from God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
NGO's are business organizations. And we are not called by Jesus Christ to support business organizations but to do as Jesus Christ commands .

Jesus Christ demands we each have that direct contact with those who are in need just as He did. I am afraid there is no sitting away off, writing checks to be forwarded to those in need. Recall Jesus Christ suggesting we are to serve others just as He served us? How can we do as Jesus Christ has commanded if our support is done through third party NGO's? .

NGOs are businesses but the church particularly in Nigeria today isn't??

DaInferno:
NGOs are businesses but the church particularly in Nigeria today isn't??

Your churches were built as businesses from their very beginnings over 1700 years ago.

worlexy:

The scriptures did, I didn’t write Deuteronomy.


Go and read Deuteronomy 14:22-29


22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, cand the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect fthe Levite who is within your towns, for ghe has no portion or inheritance with you.
28 At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.

You are very funny...what did I ask...what are u Wrttting??
Where in all this write up did it show that there was monetary system at the time of Moses..

dapadawee:

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:27‭-‬29 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gal.3.27-29.KJV

How does that translate to practicing what's in the books of the law?


Read the whole chapter of that verse for better understanding.

advanceDNA:


You are very funny...what did I ask...what are u Wrttting??
Where in all this write up did it show that there was monetary system at the time of Moses..

Read it again

Dtruthspeaker:


Not "pay in the church where you worship" but WHERE GOD IS!

95% of Nigeria clergys have skeleton in their cupboard. Most people only prefer the saying "rather you practice what they preach & not what they do". Also, since in the scripture, it is written that where two or three are gathered in His name, He is in their midst, meaning God can be in any church. Especially, when there are some genuine, sincere church members, who come to serve God in truth in any church, without the knowledge of whether their pastor is truly a Christian or not. God can be in any church and the tithe for Him alone else He is robbed. That doesn't stopped anyone from being generous and help the needy.

Youngzedd:



Explain the below verses.


Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.


Galatians 5:1,4
[1]So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.
[4]For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.


Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

I totally understand that Jesus Christ brought us Grace.
But most people have misinterpreted d word Grace into something else.
The Bible says " Shall we continue in sin nd expect Grace to abound... God forbid"

Jesus Christ has been made our Righteousness, but that doesn't mean u shouldn't do what is right in the sight of God.
Bible says " He that does Righteously is Righteous" that's d word of God nd God won't change His standard for anybody.

" Work out Ur own salvation with fear ...."
As Christian even though there's Grace, but the Grace Jesus Christ brought doesn't make ineffective d laws of God.

1 cor 6 Vs 9-12 talks about the standard of God even though there's Grace.
Be not deceived, No Unrighteous thing shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Tobechuckwu:


I totally understand that Jesus Christ brought us Grace.
But most people have misinterpreted d word Grace into something else.
The Bible says " Shall we continue in sin nd expect Grace to abound... God forbid"

Jesus Christ has been made our Righteousness, but that doesn't mean u shouldn't do what is right in the sight of God.
Bible says " He that does Righteously is Righteous" that's d word of God nd God won't change His standard for anybody.

" Work out Ur own salvation with fear ...."
As Christian even though there's Grace, but the Grace Jesus Christ brought doesn't make ineffective d laws of God.

1 cor 6 Vs 9-12 talks about the standard of God even though there's Grace.
Be not deceived, No Unrighteous thing shall inherit the kingdom of God.

*WHO ARE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN?*

1 Peter 2:4-5
4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— *5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Christ.*

1 Peter 2:9
*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood*, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

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In the new covenant, you as a believer is the church (house of Yahweh/God) not a building (2 Corinthians 5:1, Acts 17:24, Acts 7:48, Matthew 24:1-2 and John 4:21-24) and a priest while Yahushua (Christ) is the high priest (Read Hebrew 7).


Hebrews 7:26-27
26 Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. *27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day,* first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.


�: In Christianity today, a Priest is threatening another Priest with hell fire, misfortune and all manner of bad things to collect tithe, first fruit and sacrifices from him or her. Mixing old covenant (expired) with the new covenant.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Galatians 3 vs 19 - 20
Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator,however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

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* Christ is the seed been referred to here.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
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The 613 laws are shadows until Christ came. Christ fulfilled the law, done and dusted, chapter closed forever. That's why it's now weak and useless.

Hebrews 7:12
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
.
Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


* If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Hebrews 10:9-10
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all.

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He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament.

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2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
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* The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding.

Please brothers and sisters, do yourself a favour and read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3. Verse 14 "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away." is exactly what is happening in Christianity today. The minds of many were made dull.

Never allow any man born of flesh push you to do the things that are now weak and useless.
If Christ and the early Christians didn't do it, I tell you today, don't do it no matter the pressure.

The new testament scriptures are Christian manual, anything not found there shouldn't be a doctrine.

I still remain the son of the TRUTH.

Youngzedd:


How does that translate to practicing what's in the books of the law?


Read the whole chapter of that verse for better understanding.

The law is fulfilled in Christ
The law is done and dusted in Jesus
Whoever practice the law lives by the law
Peter, Paul and all the apostles were jews but did not practice the law.

Youngzedd:


How does that translate to practicing what's in the books of the law?


Read the whole chapter of that verse for better understanding.

37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law
Many Christians give lip service to the fact they live in the New Covenant.

The truth however is that because they fail to realise they are no longer under the law they are really still living in an Old Covenant reality.

Here are 37 scriptures that prove that Christians are not under the law!

Acts
The law is an unbearable yoke. (Acts 15:10)

Romans
The law reveals sin but cannot fix it. (Romans 3:20)

If the law worked then faith would be irrelevant. (Romans 4:14)

The law brings wrath upon those who follow it. (Romans 4:15)

The purpose of the law was to increase sin. (Romans 5:20)

Christians are not under the law. (Romans 6:14)

Christians have been delivered from the law. (Romans 7:1-6)

The law is good, perfect and holy but cannot help you be good, perfect or holy. (Romans 7:7-12)

The law which promises life only brings death through sin. (Romans 7:10)

The law makes you sinful beyond measure. (Romans 7:13)

The law is weak. (Romans 8:2-3)

1 Corinthians
The strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56)

2 Corinthians
The law is a ministry of death. (2 Corinthians 3:7)

The law is a ministry of condemnation. (2 Corinthians 3:9)

The law has no glory at all in comparison with the New Covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:10)

The law is fading away. (2 Corinthians 3:11)

Anywhere the law is preached it produces a mind-hardening and a heart-hardening veil. (2 Corinthians 3:14-15)

Galatians
The law justifies nobody. (Galatians 2:16)

Christians are dead to the law. (Galatians 2:19)

The law frustrates grace. (Galatians 2:21)

To go back to the law after embracing faith is “stupid”. (Galatians 3:1)

The law curses all who practice it and fail to do it perfectly. (Galatians 3:10)

The law has nothing to do with faith. (Galatians 3:11-12)

The law was a curse that Christ redeemed us from. (Galatians 3:13)

The law functioned in God’s purpose as a temporary covenant from Moses till John the Baptist announced Christ. (Galatians 3:16 & 19, also see… Matthew 11:12-13, Luke 16:16)

If the law worked God would have used it to save us. (Galatians 3:21)

The law was our prison. (Galatians 3:23)

The law makes you a slave like Hagar. (Galatians 4:24)

Ephesians
Christ has abolished the law which was a wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:15)

Philippians
Paul considered everything the law gained him as “skybalon” which is Greek for “poop”. (Philippians 3:4-

1 Timothy
The law is only good if used in the right context. (1 Timothy 1: (see next verse for the context)

It was made for the unrighteous but not for the righteous. (1 Timothy 1:9-10)

Hebrews
The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)

God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-

It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13)

It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

Youngzedd:


How does that translate to practicing what's in the books of the law?


Read the whole chapter of that verse for better understanding.

I don't need to read deteronomy to engage myself again under what I have been free from. King James Bible
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Yes..I do it and am pleased with their gesture...
Only the prayers being showered at me marvels the Lord...I feel at peace helping the needy than filling already made pastors jets..

Youngzedd:


*WHO ARE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN?*

1 Peter 2:4-5
4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— *5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Christ.*

1 Peter 2:9
*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood*, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

.

.
In the new covenant, you as a believer is the church (house of Yahweh/God) not a building (2 Corinthians 5:1, Acts 17:24, Acts 7:48, Matthew 24:1-2 and John 4:21-24) and a priest while Yahushua (Christ) is the high priest (Read Hebrew 7).


Hebrews 7:26-27
26 Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. *27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day,* first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.


�: In Christianity today, a Priest is threatening another Priest with hell fire, misfortune and all manner of bad things to collect tithe, first fruit and sacrifices from him or her. Mixing old covenant (expired) with the new covenant.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Galatians 3 vs 19 - 20
Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator,however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

.
* Christ is the seed been referred to here.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
.
The 613 laws are shadows until Christ came. Christ fulfilled the law, done and dusted, chapter closed forever. That's why it's now weak and useless.

Hebrews 7:12
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
.
Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


* If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Hebrews 10:9-10
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all.

.
.
He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament.

.
2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
.
* The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding.

Please brothers and sisters, do yourself a favour and read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3. Verse 14 "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away." is exactly what is happening in Christianity today. The minds of many were made dull.

Never allow any man born of flesh push you to do the things that are now weak and useless.
If Christ and the early Christians didn't do it, I tell you today, don't do it no matter the pressure.

The new testament scriptures are Christian manual, anything not found there shouldn't be a doctrine.

I still remain the son of the TRUTH.

I have just a question please
Are u a born again Christian?

Gambit23:



I'm not a Christian I cant be worshipping european white Gods

I'm so sorry for wasting my knowledge on this.
Light nd darkness can't work together.
I thought I was talking to a Christian in the first place.

Tobechuckwu:


I have just a question please
Are u a born again Christian?

That's not a question, if you have any question in regards to what I have put up there, ask and I shall clarify you.



Christ is the TRUTH, and I have shown you the TRUTH.

Youngzedd:



That's not a question, if you have any question in regards to what I have put up there, ask and I shall clarify you.



Christ is the TRUTH, and I have shown you the TRUTH.

It's just a simple question which requires a yes or no answer.

It'll definitely determine how I'm going to reply ur comments

Tobechuckwu:



I'm so sorry for wasting my knowledge on this.
Light nd darkness can't work together.
I thought I was talking to a Christian in the first place.

Nah, U are actually the darkness and wen u die, u will go to the hindu hellfire because u don't believe in the hindu God.

Tobechuckwu:


It's just a simple question which requires a yes or no answer.

It'll definitely determine how I'm going to reply ur comments

Someone who doesn't know the scriptures cannot put up what I did there and that alone should answer your question. That stuff isn't from an average Nigerian Christian, it requires an in depth study of the scriptures.



John 8:32
And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

John 4:24
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

John 16:13
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.


John 14:6
Yeshua told him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.




Keyword: TRUTH

dapadawee:

The law is fulfilled in Christ
The law is done and dusted in Jesus
Whoever practice the law lives by the law
Peter, Paul and all the apostles were jews but did not practice the law.

As Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 made it clear, the Old Law was never of your concern to begin with. What that means that Jesus Christ's fulfillment of it was not for your sake but for the sake of the lost sheep of Israel who He was sent to save from the Old Covenant on to a new Law, the New Covenant Law with God.

Jesus Christ is the New Covenant Law, the agreement between God and individuals, and He is also one of God's Laws. And according to Him, those who love Him are those who obey His teachings & comandments - John 14 vs 23- 25. Those who are His friends are those who do what He tells them to do - He is the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 15 vs 14

Peter, John and all of the apostles. did live their lives in submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God which they belonged in. So, if you do not live by Him,the New Covenant Law, how do you intend to benefit from Him as the apostles, before you, did?

Youngzedd:



Someone who doesn't know the scriptures cannot put up what I did there and that alone should answer your question. That stuff isn't from an average Nigerian Christian, it requires an in depth study of the scriptures.



John 8:32
And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

John 4:24
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

John 16:13
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.


John 14:6
Yeshua told him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.




Keyword: TRUTH

It was a simple question!

That u know the scripture very well doesn't make u a born again Christian?

There's no Nigeria born again Christian neither is there the world born again Christian.
There's only one universal way to be born again Christian.

Back to my question
Are u a born again Christian?
Just Yes or no will solve all ur explanation .

Gambit23:


Nah, U are actually the darkness and wen u die, u will go to the hindu hellfire because u don't believe in the hindu God.

It's never too late.
God still loves u personally.
The Son Jesus Christ is waiting to accept u into the family nd I love u also.