bomb24:


Lol pained soul, I still maintain my stand wole soyinka shouldn't be in same sentence with Achebe..your Nobel prize winner is nothing but a local champion..a failed writer who had to take solace in politics to cover up all the time and energy he spent writing jibi jaba he called novels that couldn't sell to a thousand copies.
This is what the great Mandela has to say about Achebe.
"The writer in the presence of whom the prison walls come down. That was how President Nelson Mandela described him. Simply put, and deservedly so, Prof. Chinua Achebe is Africa's most widely read author. His debut novel, Things Fall Apart has been translated into 42 languages with over 40 million in sales. In spite of how much he constantly downplayed or sometimes denied it, he is widely regarded as the 'father of the African novel."

Don’t sink to their level! You can make your point without abusing Prof Wole Soyinka! Doing so gives them what they want, as many of them are impostors looking to set ethnicities in the south against each other!

Captain8:
dont believe this this misconception that igbos are good in business....no, igbos are not good in any business..
Now take a look at the richest people with business you will not see any igbo man....
Look at dangote otedola adeleke etc they Yoruba and Hausa with other tribes.... where is the so-called business igbo man there?

igbo man will never got money without adding ritualism....

people have been brainwashed to believe that falacy that igbos are the business......

keep on consoling yourself dude. Before an ijaw get named among Nigeria's richest , you will definitely get to see more than 5 Igbo men.

what exactly where you ancestors doing ? most especially after stealing Igbo properties and resources after the war.

we came back from nothing to once again be leaders in the old Eastern bloc.
what where your ancestors doing ?

eduj:


keep on consoling yourself dude. Before an ijaw get named among Nigeria's richest , you will definitely get to see more than 5 Igbo men.

what exactly where you ancestors doing ? most especially after stealing Igbo properties and resources after the war.

we came back from nothing to once again be leaders in the old Eastern bloc.
what where your ancestors doing ?

with all your ritualism, you people will not first us make that list.....

Captain8:
with all your ritualism, you people will not first us make that list.....

The last time I checked, the LARGEST indigenous OIL and gas exploration companies are SEPLAT and AITEO owned by Two different Igbo men.

Among the top-tier Banks in Nigeria (FUGAZ)
IGBO ,Igbo control U,A and Z..
Go and read about U Brittania, an oil exploration company owned by Uju Ifejika in Nigeria, Ghana and other countries..
Let's take a look at Top 20 richest Nigerians...
Dangote is enjoying Government support and monopoly.
Femi Otedola is highly indebted to Banks just like Jimoh Ibrahim..
Mike Adenuga is on a low profile
In the Top 20 richest Nigerians, Yorubas represented are:
1.Mike Adenuga
2.Femi Otedola
3.Jimoh Ibrahim (Assets taken over by AMCON bcoz his debt appreciated above his assets value)
4. Oba Otudeko : His Honeywell etc will soon be taken over by AMCON for being heavily indebted to FIRST BANK, Eco bank etc
5.Folarunsho Alakija
6. FOLA ADEOLA (GTBank)

Hausa-Fulani has
Theophilus Danjuma
Aliko Dangote
Mohamed Indimi
Rabiu
Urhobo has
Igho sanomi
Igbo has the rest

IDENNAA:



This is a blatant lie; no historian worth it's value will ever put Onicha ancestry to Bini. Why ? Because there is absolutely nothing that lends credence to that. Anybody who claims Onicha has Bini ancestry should bring the facts and prove it to us.

Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe ,the most illustrous Onitsha Indigene, in his book 'My Oddessey' clearly traced his genealogy (based on oral history from his grandmother) to the first king of Onitsha and he said he was Bini Royalty.

Liebermantic:

Bayelsa State was created for Ijaw to enable other marginalized minorities in Rivers State to have a breath of fresh air... So any groups in Rivers State that claim to be Ijaw do so for political gains...No Ijaw in Rivers State..

When we say there are no Ijos in Rivers state, it isn't bound by sentiments. It's actually the agreement when Bayelsa was created out of Rivers.

Since Abacha couldn't create a Port-Harcourt state for us, he agreed to the creation of an Ijaw majority state while Rivers became an Igboid majority state. It was similar to the suggestion Ghaddafi gave Abacha about partitioning Nigeria into North for Muslims and South for Christians.

After Bayelsa was created, the agitation for Port-Harcourt state died down. Looking back, the chief instigators for Port-Harcourt State where mainly those from Ikwerre, Kalabari, Bonny/Opobo and Etche. Any wonder why the likes of Kalabari and Bonny fought toothlessly to bite Ijo hands off when they added them to the Bayelsa state map. The only group who should have stayed behind where the Nembe/Brass. But because the bulk of their sons facilitated the Ijo dominance in the old Rivers, they were dragged along to Bayelsa. Today, most Nembe are regretting their actions and if they have another chance would have remained in Rivers state. But it's too late now. Ogoni on the other hands have agitated for their own Bori state, but unfortunately Abacha didn't agree to it and now, there are still stuck with us.

Bayelsa for Ijoids and Port-Harcourt (Now Rivers) for Igboids. This was the mantra during state creation.

Captain8:
shut up.. Igbos got no single achievement.... Igbos only achievements are drug pushing....baby factorying.....ritualism.....ashawo work.....419...... and became successful with those activities.....

wat a bloody drunkard u can't even make a correct sentence....no wonder illiteracy and poverty have become order of the day in accursed ijaw ethnic group...

I knw u do nt knw the meaning of achievement bcux no one from your ethnic group has ever done/bcum anything meaningful rather they hv bcum canoe padlers, drukards, illiterates, pipeline guards and 21st century poor oil polluted rats competing in using bamboo and raftas to build a roof over their heads.

an accursed race of black men who poo and pee on the same rivers they fetch their water to drink.

BiafraInc:
Once Biafra is restored, any Ijaw person found in Opobo and Ijaw will be evicted by force. Those two cities are purely Igbo cities and must be secured militarily.

If Biafra is going to come by referendum, there will be need for concensus and comprise from both sides. It will be very naive to assume that any land claimed by IPOB or Igbo irredentists will automatically become parts of Biafra.

Captain8:
maybe...if it is so, then it because am speaking my dialect from far western delta or ondo.... but yet i still can understand 30% of ndoki words....

if an ndoki man speak, Igbo will not understand even 1%........if ndoki man speak Ijaw man will understand 50%.....

Many people on this forum fail to understand that it's very difficult to state where one ethnic homelands start and end. There are always areas of overlap.

From what you guys are describing with both parties giving plausible reasons why they own them, these communities appear to be an overlap of Ijaw/Igbo ethnic homelands.

PROUDIGBO:


You Ijaws are quite funny and so obvious in your expansionist bid! As you tell it, you own all the coast from Akwa-Ibom to Ondo!

What's at play here is the result of the collusion you went into with your Fulani masters to try and deny Igbos access to the sea! You engaged in a lot of scheming and subterfuge to steal Igbo properties and land from the late 60s to early 70s, and you were emboldened to do what you did because your Fulani masters had your back!

Pre the uncivil war, i doubt the Opobo, Bonny and Okrika identified solely as Ijaw or Igbo. I feel they were more of city states in their own right (kinda like Monaco or The Vatican)...independent of both the Igbo and Ijaw, though having been influenced by both ethnicities! But with the coming of the uncivil war and the attempts to shrink Igbo territory as well as deny us a littoral status, you went for broke and charged full-steam ahead to 'Ijawnise' these city-states....especially Opobo, because you and your Nigerian masters looked at the map and saw Igboland had access to the sea via Opobo!

This is very funny you know?


By the way, how did the Ijaws make these cities to embrace Ijaw identity ,a minority status within Nigeria over an Igbo Status which is a majority status?

oyatz:



This is very funny you know?


By the way, how did the Ijaws make these cities to embrace Ijaw identity ,a minority status within Nigeria over an Igbo Status which is a majority status?

Very funny I tell you. But the truth is that Ijos were quite smarter than the Igbos during the first republic. They played their politics right in the 1960’s and used that opportunity to cement their feet in the Niger-Delta, with the help of a few of their sons who formed a political alliance with the NPC of Ahmadu Bello.

While many like the Kalabari and Opobo dominated the NCNC, those like Dappa Biriye from Finima was in opposition and used his NDC (Niger Delta Congress) to give undue support to the NPC, and was rewarded with love from the north. In fact, the Niger Delta Congress was the first southern party to go into political alliance with NPC. And you won't blame them as they wanted a state for all Ijos of which the NPC agreed to give them if they were elected into power in 1958. The NPC only pushed them aside temporarily, when the NCNC swept the riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers with the help of pro-Niger-Deltan NCNC members. And thus, knowing that the NCNC won majority votes, the NPC which had majority seat in parliament went into political alliance with Zik. That alliance was short-lived as every region went into political battle with themselves. While Ahmadu bello was sponsoring Akintola in the west, the likes of Awolowo was sponsoring Joseph Tarka in the middle-belt.

When Ahmadu Bello said he’ll drop the Quran in the Atlantic ocean, he was being paradoxical. It wasn't about Islam. He meant he had allies in the south. And among those allies was a young Issac Boro who was mentored by Dappa Biriye. Isaac Boro was always in communication with Balewa. In fact, when Balewa was murdered he was agonized and quickly began his secessionist movement to break his part of Bayelsa out of the eastern region, feeling that the Igbos would dominate Nigeria after taking out the north, whom Boro called the saviour of the Ijos. Surprisingly the bulk of those 1000 youths Boro used in causing his 12 day insurrection in the east, were Ijos who were born and bred in Ghana.

And it wasn't a surprise when during the civil war, Boro used that opportunity to cleanse the Niger-Delta of pro-Igbo sympathizers and land grabbed independent Niger-Delta city states like Bonny, Opobo, Kalabari, Nembe, Ogbia, Yenagoa, Andoni etc into his Ijaw land. He would have done much more had he not died in the hands of Adekunle who was concerned about Boro’s personal vendetta in the war, which was turning the battle in the riverine into a genocide instead of a civil war to unite the country.

RobbStark:


First of, Peterside isn't the most prominent politician in Opobo, if he was, he wud have won his Local govt for his party in the 2015 general elections. Not even an assembly member from his party in his constituency won in the senatorial zone.

Reason why he didn't win the gov election.
He did that to gather votes of the ibos who reside in Rivers State but he failed woefully.

You didn't lecture nothing cos it's a known fact that you ibos are looking for what isn't there for you.

Never confuse a man who speaks with both sides of his mouth.
Since peterside is an Ibo man, let him come to the east and you guys shud give him the governorship he craves for.

Like I said earlier, all this noise is just here in Nland nowhere else.
Ibos are in bonny doing their biz, once they have never made this rant else they will be chased out forever.

Make una know una boundary e get why

Peterside never said anything about Igbo root, you should know Igbos stock and trade is disinformation

nengibo:

Peterside never said anything about Igbo root, you should know Igbos stock and trade is disinformation

Can you put your money on that?

Eastlink:
Can you put your money on that?

Yes I can, do you have evidence or recording, the post refers to a nairaland article which then refers to a blog, sketchy at best

BiafraInc:
Once Biafra is restored, any Ijaw person found in Opobo and Ijaw will be evicted by force. Those two cities are purely Igbo cities and must be secured militarily.

Look at this fool, the entire kingdom is Ijaw, once Biafra is achieved any Igbo found will be evicted

oyatz:


Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe ,the most illustrous Onitsha Indigene, in his book 'My Oddessey' clearly traced his genealogy (based on oral history from his grandmother) to the first king of Onitsha and he said he was Bini Royalty.

Stop paying too much of a mind to craps from a character desperate to become the father of so-called Nigeria. The bolded even named his kids with silly names from the ethnic divide.

Eastlink:
Very funny I tell you. But the truth is that Ijos were quite smarter than the Igbos during the first republic. They played their politics right in the 1960’s and used that opportunity to cement their feet in the Niger-Delta, with the help of a few of their sons who formed a political alliance with the NPC of Ahmadu Bello.

While many like the Kalabari and Opobo dominated the NCNC, those like Dappa Biriye from Finima was in opposition and used his NDC (Niger Delta Congress) to give undue support to the NPC, and was rewarded with love from the north. In fact, the Niger Delta Congress was the first southern party to go into political alliance with NPC. And you won't blame them as they wanted a state for all Ijos of which the NPC agreed to give them if they were elected into power in 1958. The NPC only pushed them aside temporarily, when the NCNC swept the riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers with the help of pro-Niger-Deltan NCNC members. And thus, knowing that the NCNC won majority votes, the NPC which had majority seat in parliament went into political alliance with Zik. That alliance was short-lived as every region went into political battle with themselves. While Ahmadu bello was sponsoring Akintola in the west, the likes of Awolowo was sponsoring Joseph Tarka in the middle-belt.

When Ahmadu Bello said he’ll drop the Quran in the Atlantic ocean, he was being paradoxical. It wasn't about Islam. He meant he had allies in the south. And among those allies was a young Issac Boro who was mentored by Dappa Biriye. Isaac Boro was always in communication with Balewa. In fact, when Balewa was murdered he was agonized and quickly began his secessionist movement to break his part of Bayelsa out of the eastern region, feeling that the Igbos would dominate Nigeria after taking out the north, whom Boro called the saviour of the Ijos. Surprisingly the bulk of those 1000 youths Boro used in causing his 12 day insurrection in the east, were Ijos who were born and bred in Ghana.

And it wasn't a surprise when during the civil war, Boro used that opportunity to cleanse the Niger-Delta of pro-Igbo sympathizers and land grabbed independent Niger-Delta city states like Bonny, Opobo, Kalabari, Nembe, Ogbia, Yenagoa, Andoni etc into his Ijaw land. He would have done much more had he not died in the hands of Adekunle who was concerned about Boro’s personal vendetta in the war, which was turning the battle in the riverine into a genocide instead of a civil war to unite the country.

Most Nigerians are goons hence the shithole called Nigeria is known as basket of fools. In 1959 election, Niger Delta Congress won only one seat. The winner was Milford Okilo from Sagbama. How did winning one seat give NPC an advantage in eastern region? The fight for political survival was pitched in western region and middle belt district of northern region. By 1963, western region has lost Midwestern region which become the home of NCNC.

In the above crap, you were correct about the use of Ijaw peeps by the northern political elites to rob the currecnt generation of so-called Ijaw of their birth right. Did you realize that PIB was driven by Ijaw in the 60s. You cannot eat your cake and have it. As of today, Ijaw kids have better percentage chance to die of cancer than their northern counterparts. While Ijaw peeps battle crude oil pipelines, the northern kids drive and jet around with expensive automobiles and jetliners.

oyatz:


Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe ,the most illustrous Onitsha Indigene, in his book 'My Oddessey' clearly traced his genealogy (based on oral history from his grandmother) to the first king of Onitsha and he said he was Bini Royalty.

Nnamdi Azikiwe is not a historian but he was really regurgitating the tales his grandmother told him. The same Nnamdi azikiwe wrote an earlier text that contradicts the later one. But if we should really dig deep into Onicha history and culture you will be shocked to know they have absolutely nothing in common with Bini except for the borrowed titles and ada sword.

Idiko1:


Stop paying too much of a mind to craps from a character desperate to become the father of so-called Nigeria. The bolded even named his kids with silly names from the ethnic divide.

And what is bad about naming his kids Yoruba names? Zik wrote the Benin angle which looks political if you consider his first biography about himself which talks about his Onitsha Igbo heritage. Some historians feel he was trying to spread his political tentacles in the south with his political gimmicks. First was naming his kids Yoruba names and second was the Benin origin angle. Don't forget Zik was a politician and politicians can do anything to win votes.

Again, put some respect on that name Zik, because no Igbo man dead or alife has accomplished what he's attained.

oyatz:


Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe ,the most illustrous Onitsha Indigene, in his book 'My Oddessey' clearly traced his genealogy (based on oral history from his grandmother) to the first king of Onitsha and he said he was Bini Royalty.

Ziik was a politician, not a traditional ruler or the official custodian of Onitsha culture.

The Obi of Onitsha has made it clear several times that Onitsha people are core Igbos. His account should be more believable.

oyatz:


If Biafra is going to come by referendum, there will be need for concensus and comprise from both sides. It will be very naive to assume that any land claimed by IPOB or Igbo irredentists will automatically become parts of Biafra.

All the territories inhabited by Igboid tribes are non negotiable... And even Nigeria herself knows that
As for the non Igboid territories, we're open to negotiations, even though we might never budge on the Ijo city states of Karabarị and Okirika and also the tribes of the Cross river Valley.
We've a prospective population of 47M... So we can raise an army of 5M, fully equipped and dedicated to defense of our territory and interests

Idiko1:


Most Nigerians are goons hence the shithole called Nigeria is known as basket of fools. In 1959 election, Niger Delta Congress won only one seat. The winner was Milford Okilo from Sagbama. How did winning one seat give NPC and advantage in eastern region? The fight for political survival was pitched in western region and middle belt district of northern region. By 1963, western region has lost Midwestern region which become the home of NCNC.

In the above crap, you were correct about the use of Ijaw peeps by the northern political elites to rob the currecnt generation of so-called Ijaw of their birth right. Did you realize that PIB was driven by Ijaw in the 60s. You cannot eat your cake and have it. As of today, Ijaw kids have better percentage chance to die of cancer than their northern counterparts. While Ijaw peeps battle crude oil pipelines, the northern kids drive and jet around with expensive automobiles and jetliners.

You left the topic and jump into how Ijos made a bad political decision. Adviser of the Ijos? Clap for yourself. You've not finished healing yourself, you now assume the liberator of the Ijos. Are the Ijos complaining that northerners are driving jets? Lol! This is one problem I have with many of you Biafran apologist. You feel others made bad decisions, why yours is the best.

Please stick to the topic and stop forming Messiah when you've not delivered yourself.

Eastlink:
You left the topic and jump into how Ijos made a bad political decision. Adviser of the Ijos? Clap for yourself. You've not finished healing yourself, you now assume the liberator of the Ijos. Are the Ijos complaining that northerners are driving jets? Lol! This is one problem I have with many of you Biafran apologist. You feel others made bad decisions, why yours is the best.

Please stick to the topic and stop forming Messiah when you've not delivered yourself.

Besides M. Okilo's federal seat, was there any other seat won by the member of turncoat party called Niger Delta Congress? Niger Delta Congress lost its deposit in the regional election as no member of the turncoat group took a seat at Enugu. The bolded spits on your face. How
goofy can such a question come from a person who claimed Ijaw? The so-called papa of Ijaw, Edwin Clark, has cried river because of the recent PIB bill. Ijaw will ever regret the despicable act of sabotage due to brainwash leveled on them by the northern region political elites.

cheruv:

All the territories inhabited by Igboid tribes are non negotiable... And even Nigeria herself knows that
As for the non Igboid territories, we're open to negotiations, even though we might never budge on the Ijo city states of Karabarị and Okirika and also the tribes of the Cross river Valley.
We've a prospective population of 47M... So we can raise an army of 5M, fully equipped and dedicated to defense of our territory and interests

You seems very patriotic abouth your ethnic group but you are likely to be a young man and quite naive about the issues of secession, creation of new countries, border issues and international politics surrounding such matters.


In international politics, the greatest factor that strengthen your claim to disputed territories is the political authority you exercise over the territories, it is far superior to 'languages or ancestries' of the present inhabitants of the territories.

Are you currently exercising political authority over Opobo or Bonny? Was there ever a time , these cities were parts of your kingdom/Empire? How did you come into the conclusion that they are your territories?


Read about many hotly disputed territories by different sovereign countries in the past and present e.g Kashmir in India Vs Pakistan Vs China, Jerusalem in Israel Vs Palestine, Western Sahara, Ceuta and Melila between Spain Vs Morocc, Brittany, Nagorno-Karabakh Region between Azaibanjain and Armenia etc

let's shun quarrels , cooperation will make us stronger despite the variation in our spoken dialects

Idiko1:


Are you sane at all? Wabara in Ngwa-Asa-Ndoki lexicon is Nwagbara in central Igbo lexicon. It was the same Nwagbarie who was original founder of what is known today as Kalabari. Mazi Adolphus Wabara hails from Oza/Umunteke axis of Ukwa East LGA,

You just proved that we are all related.


Communities that live close to each other for centuries eventually become related.
Many of these tribes/city States would have merged into one super ethnic group if Nigeria is operating a merit based system and there's no need for Tribal identities to get certain political and/or economic privileges.

oyatz:



You seems very patriotic abouth your ethnic group but you are likely to be a young man and quite naive about the issues of secession, creation of new countries, border issues and international politics surrounding such matters.


In international politics, the greatest factor that strengthen your claim to disputed territories is the political authority you exercise over the territories, it is far superior to 'languages or ancestries' of the present inhabitants of the territories.

Are you currently exercising political authority over Opobo or Bonny? Was there ever a time , these cities were parts of your kingdom/Empire? How did you come into the conclusion that they are your territories?


Read about many hotly disputed territories by different sovereign countries in the past and present e.g Kashmir in India Vs Pakistan Vs China, Jerusalem in Israel Vs Palestine, Western Sahara, Ceuta and Melila between Spain Vs Morocc, Brittany, Nagorno-Karabakh Region between Azaibanjain and Armenia etc

Most of the hints in above post have no bearing on the subject matter or what you have in mind. Palestine does not exit as a state and may not. The original territory known as Palestine included Israel and Jordan. As for most areas you mentioned in the post, the colonial powers which had no interest of the people played a major role in the political saga found today.

Eastlink:
And what is bad about naming his kids Yoruba names? Zik wrote the Benin angle which looks political if you consider his first biography about himself which talks about his Onitsha Igbo heritage. Some historians feel he was trying to spread his political tentacles in the south with his political gimmicks. First was naming his kids Yoruba names and second was the Benin origin angle. Don't forget Zik was a politician and politicians can do anything to win votes.

Again, put some respect on that name Zik, because no Igbo man dead or alife has accomplished what he's attained.

Zik is the daftest and dumbest Igbo to ever grace this earth. Stop bringing that idiot into this discussion. Once Biafra is restored, his corps will be exhumed and taken out of Biafraland and reburied. Another fool is the one called Ikpabi Asika. What we are suffering today is because of Zik's personal gains politics and Ukpabi Asika's moronic naivety.

BiafraInc:

Zik is the daftest and dumbest Igbo to ever grace this earth. Stop bringing that idiot into this discussion. Once Biafra is restored, his corps will be exhumed and taken out of Biafraland and reburied. Another fool is the one called Ikpabi Asika. What we are suffering today is because of Zik's personal gains politics and Ukpabi Asika's moronic naivety.

Nobody knows your father. It will be like that even after Jesus comes

Zik will be remembered but your father will not be

Idiko1:



Most of the hints in above post have no bearing on the subject matter or what you have in mind. Palestine does not exit as a state and may not. The original territory known as Palestine included Israel and Jordan. As for most areas you mentioned in the post, the colonial powers which had no interest of the people played a major role in the political saga found today.

And who told you that disputes over territories between Igbos and Ijaw Republics that may snowball into serious conflicts will not attract the involvement of former colonial Masters and the Super Powers?

1000Capacity:


Nobody knows your father. It will be like that even after Jesus comes

Fulani terrorist, who invited you here? Go and trap bomb in your waist, blow up your useless self and go for your fake 72 virgins.

BiafraInc:

Fulani terrorist, who invited you here? Go and trap bomb in your waist, blow up your useless self and go for your fake 72 virgins.

Legend has it that your clans name was Mu and your father's name was GU

MU+GU = _____