Crystyano:

I don't do XYZ because others are doing it.....
I do it because I consider it necessary to be done..... Different people gather in the church for different reasons....... Some do it to steal.....

The highlighted!
Billions also consider it NECESSARY to gather for worship, just as you consider marriage and child bearing necessary whereas there is no reason you can give someone who see no sense in what you're doing!

Dtruthspeaker:


Look closely, as per verse 13, 2 Chronicles 7:14 is about staying (stopping) God's judgement (Plagues) upon the peoples and lands of Israel, which is what forgiveness means there.

But for a Personal Security from His Punishments, verse 17 tells you
"And as for thee, if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, and DO according to ALL that I have commanded thee, and shalt observe my statutes and my judgments;

The very same Words He told Abraham.

Will God forgive me? Yes or No...

sonmvayina:


Will God forgive me? Yes or No...

That is God's Prerogative!

Crystyano:


What is the relationship between spirits and humans?


If I have no consciousness,

I wouldn't know that I exist.....


Unlike FreeIgboho or someone with imaginary students,I am certain of my existence.....

You are certain of your existence because of your consciousness: can you prove that your consciousness exists in material terms?
Like, what is the mass, energy, location, volume....of your consciousness?
If you can't physically describe your consciousness: is it a proof that your consciousness DOESN'T exist

The relationship of your spirit to humans: Your soul/spirit is akin to the software that drives your hardware (body)

LordReed:


I didn't ask you to do a video, I said tell me one spell that is guaranteed to bring out a spirit and I'll do the video myself.

How do you intend to catch a spirit form with video?
Do they reflect light?

TenQ:

How do you intend to catch a spirit form with video?
Do they reflect light?

How did all the people that saw spirits see them if they don't reflect light?

sonmvayina:

Will God forgive me? Yes or No...

Your judgment will be based on how much evidence was presented before you as proof that Jesus is God's only begotten Son.

You have heard about Jesus but you believed critics who said he never existed so that's understandable because you heard two contradicting things about the same person.

Then those saying Jesus never existed can't produce a group of people practicing what they are teaching, this is an opportunity for you to reason that if they truly know God there should be a way to prove that God is working in their midst. We all know that humans are imperfect so we can't expect perfection from any human but when the spirit of God is working in the midst of imperfect humans we will all see the qualities permeating their gathering even though each of them is imperfect!

So if you can SEE a group of people practicing what they teach and the benefits in their midst that is enough evidence that you will never be forgiven!

For instance, in any sane society nobody judges a stranger for driving on a one way but what happens if he noticed that there is no car in front or behind him rather all the cars are going to opposite direction? Does he still have any reason to continue knowing fully well that he's not familiar with that road?

So with the evidence presented before you you have been judged already for not believing Jesus {John 3:17} the only reason why Jehovah's Witnesses were able to gather millions throughout the earth making them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, when all others are killing one another due to politics and racism!

LordReed:

How did all the people that saw spirits see them if they don't reflect light?

Even though it's not impossible, Are you sure they saw spirits?

Spirits by their nature are not of the natural properties and energies except in special instances and at their own volition.

TenQ:

You are certain of your existence because of your consciousness: can you prove that your consciousness exists in material terms?
Like, what is the mass, energy, location, volume....of your consciousness?
If you can't physically describe your consciousness: is it a proof that your consciousness DOESN'T exist

The relationship of your spirit to humans: Your soul/spirit is akin to the software that drives your hardware (body)

My consciousness doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

My intelligence doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

Comparing spirits to softwares doesn't make sense......

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted!
Billions also consider it NECESSARY to gather for worship, just as you consider marriage and child bearing necessary whereas there is no reason you can give someone who see no sense in what you're doing!

So it has nothing to do with a spirit....


It's about considering it as something necessary.....

Nothingserious:


Then it is safe to say your thoughts aren’t real. Maybe your mind isn’t real too.

Unless you can point us to the shape or form in which your thoughts and mind exist.

My thoughts don't have to be real to you to be real to me....

FreeIgboho:


You tagged me. Well here’s some teaching:
Like I’ve said, the ONLY thing we can be 100% certain exists is thinking (consciousness). If you say otherwise, then tell us how you are certain anything else physically exists

Your teaching doesn't really exist...

TenQ:

Even though it's not impossible, Are you sure they saw spirits?

Spirits by their nature are not of the natural properties and energies except in special instances and at their own volition.

Angels are spirits are they not, people claim to have seen angels. So I have a reasonable expectation to be able to capture spirits on camera.

LordReed:


Angels are spirits are they not, people claim to have seen angels. So I have a reasonable expectation to be able to capture spirits on camera.

Did you read my last post?

TenQ:

Even though it's not impossible,
Are you sure they saw spirits?

Spirits by their nature are not of the natural properties and energies except in special instances and at their own volition .

No one can make a spirit appear in another state

Crystyano:

So it has nothing to do with a spirit....
It's about considering it as something necessary.....

Of course it has to do with SPIRITS because a spirit issued an order to humans:

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

You can only prove it has nothing to do with that spirit when you ignore the order, but as long as you think it's necessary when nothing will happen if you don't then you have nothing to say against those who thinks praying or worshiping is necessary!

O Hearer of prayer, to you people of all sorts will come! Psalms 65:2

MaxInDHouse:


Of course it has to do with SPIRITS because a spirit issued an order to humans:

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

You can only prove it has nothing to do with that spirit when you ignore the order, but as long as you think it's necessary when nothing will happen if you don't then you have nothing to say against those who thinks praying or worshiping is necessary!

O Hearer of prayer, to you people of all sorts will come! Psalms 65:2

It's necessary because something will happen if I don't .....



It's not about anyone's order....

Crystyano:


My consciousness doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

My intelligence doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

Comparing spirits to softwares doesn't make sense......

Compare what happens when the software is deleted from a computer AND when the soul/spirit leaves the body except you intend to fool yourself.

Exactly as the software is to a computer is how the soul/spirit is to a human being

Crystyano:

It's necessary because something will happen if I don't .....

Can you tell me what will happen if you don't get married or have children?
Remember it's not by force, you said nobody gives you order to do so, please tell me what will happen if you don't!

Crystyano:

It's not about anyone's order....

Prove it by telling me what will happen if you don't get married or have children!

MaxInDHouse:

Can you tell me what will happen if you don't get married or have children?
Remember it's not by force, you said nobody gives you order to do so, please tell me what will happen if you don't!

Prove it by telling me what will happen if you don't get married or have children!

It depends on the amount of money I make ...

If I don't have kids as a millionaire/billionaire,
I will leave so much money behind.......

But I don't think it will be my fault if I don't have children....

TenQ:

Compare what happens when the software is deleted from a computer AND when the soul/spirit leaves the body except you intend to fool yourself.

Exactly as the software is to a computer is how the soul/spirit is to a human being

At least,
You can Google how the softwares are created and combined with the hardwares....


The same can't be said for spirits and humans except you want to fool yourself....

TenQ:

Did you read my last post?

No one can make a spirit appear in another state

That's not my concern. If spirits can be seen then they can captured on camera.

LordReed:


That's not my concern. If spirits can be seen then they can captured on camera.

Good luck to you then in your hunting!
Why don't you start with your own portrait!?

Crystyano:



At least,
You can Google how the softwares are created and combined with the hardwares....


The same can't be said for spirits and humans except you want to fool yourself....

So elementary an argument: can't you also Google about spirits?

Let me ask you a simple question:
Can you describe how a system or application software look in a computer?

Crystyano:

It depends on the amount of money I make ...

That's a lie because there are millions of women out there who will not ask you for a dime, all they want is a man that will be faithful to them and all your expenses they are ready to foot. So it's not about how much money you have Sir!

Crystyano:

If I don't have kids as a millionaire/billionaire,
I will leave so much money behind.......

So you're saying it's wrong to have children when you're not a millionaire/billionaire, right?

Crystyano:

But I don't think it will be my fault if I don't have children....

So why must you have children?
You've not addressed the issue on ground, people whether rich or poor BELIEVES they must have children and you too but you're not giving me any tangible reason why you think it's necessary if it has nothing to do with the order from that Bible SPIRIT!

TenQ:

Good luck to you then in your hunting!
Why don't you start with your own portrait!?

How do you mean start with my own portrait?

LordReed:


How do you mean start with my own portrait?

You have a Soul/Spirit, you can start from there

TenQ:

You have a Soul/Spirit, you can start from there

I don't.

LordReed:


I don't.

What powers your body hardware?
Your CPU or the operating system?

TenQ:

What powers your body hardware?
Your CPU or the operating system?

Natural bodily processes.

People who don’t understand science and then try to use the knowledge base as support for their superstitions are amusing.

What is the mass of your consciousness?

What is the volume of your spirit?

The soul is like a software.

LordReed:


Natural bodily processes.

A Natural Escapism behaviour from your kind.

A simple question deserves a simple direct answer.

TenQ:

What powers your body hardware?
Your CPU or the operating system?

My body hardware is powered by liquid emerald and unobtanium funneled through my outer skull.