Alabo7978:

True.
I thought that boy knew something.
He was openly challenging me to a debate,
Debate with an obsolete material o.
That's make I leave money I dey find come dey debate with drug addict.
Still I for roast am like asun.

OfoIgbo:


Your attachment is not from Baikie's records directly. You guys are now quoting from modern books twisted in such a way as to remove the Igbo counting system that King Pepple gave side by side.

The indigenes of Ubani also told him they're of Igbo ancestry. This is a huge blow you can never get past.
So basically, the earlier writings by John Adams and Captain Crow, alongside Baikie's, have all confirmed that Bonny natives are Igbos.
None of them even mentioned Brass or Kalabari, as their original area, let alone Ijo.
Your fraud cannot get past me.

JANK23H:

If you noticed,they've moved the debate to the
supposed perception slave dealers had of Ijos.

First Ijos were from Sierra Leone,then no historical mention of Ijos.At a point they argued that Kalabari,Okrika and Nembe aren't Ijo.They are consistently looking for something to hold on to .

Only an undiscerning and biased mind will be swayed by their arguments.

JANK23H:

If you noticed,they've moved the debate to the
supposed perception slave dealers had of Ijos.

First Ijos were from Sierra Leone,then no historical mention of Ijos.At a point they argued that Kalabari,Okrika and Nembe aren't Ijo.They are consistently looking for something to hold on to .

Only an undiscerning and biased mind will be swayed by their arguments.

Igboid:
All Ijaws have to do to win this argument is to provide just one Colonial document tracing Bonny origin to "Ejo" or "people of Jos" as Ijaws was known in colonial times!
Just one Colonial or precolonial document doing so!

All Ijaws have is distortions of facts written by the chief Ijaw Fraudulent and old shameless historian like Alagoa and his sidekicks like Fombo and co, none of who can defend the abominations they wrote between 1966 and to date, a period in history when Igbos went to sleep.

But we are awake now, and we will tear every single Fraudulent piece Alagoa wrote on Bonny and Opobo to pieces using historical facts from early neutral colonists like Baike, Glynn and Captain Crow.
Better believe we are not making empty threats here, we mean it.
Alagoa the fraud will be eventually forced out from his hide out to open places when we start dropping our books to separate facts from fictions.

Igboid:
All Ijaws have to do to win this argument is to provide just one Colonial document tracing Bonny origin to "Ejo" or "people of Jos" as Ijaws was known in colonial times!
Just one Colonial or precolonial document doing so!

All Ijaws have is distortions of facts written by the chief Ijaw Fraudulent and old shameless historian like Alagoa and his sidekicks like Fombo and co, none of who can defend the abominations they wrote between 1966 and to date, a period in history when Igbos went to sleep.

But we are awake now, and we will tear every single Fraudulent piece Alagoa wrote on Bonny and Opobo to pieces using historical facts from early neutral colonists like Baike, Glynn and Captain Crow.
Better believe we are not making empty threats here, we mean it.
Alagoa the fraud will be eventually forced out from his hide out to open places when we start dropping our books to separate facts from fictions.

EzeCanada:


Alabo, make you relax and "gear brake"!

Deliquate these words of wisdom with some fresh served fisherman's soup.

Something within me tells me you are a well natured person. I strongly believe you know the truth but choose to distort facts and postulate false narratives for some reasons best known to you.

I want to remind you however, that those who walked simlar path in time past never ended well. Go figure!


Relatedly, I realized you've been able establish ( through independent research) that the biblical Eri is the progenitor of the Igbos.

In case you are unaware, Eri's descendants prides themselves with a foreign policy enshrined in "
egbe bere ugo bere nke si ibe ya ebene nku kwaa ya". Meaning we are peaceful, tolerant and not in pursuit of territoral expansionism.

I am sure you are also familiar with the quote below; context it was made... “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” 

In light of the above, if I were to be you, I'd reconsider my steps and chose the part of greatness rather than damnation. It's never to late.

Many thanks.

Anonymous15:

And you think only Alagoa wrote about Bonny?
Lol, clown
Below is an attached comparative vocabulary and numerals started by John Clarke, sir Edwin Norris, Merrick, even baikie himself, Sigismund Koelle (though partly)
Notice ibani Language is similar to kalabari too and they're graded under proto ijoid?
Remember crowther and pepple recorded that they speak the same language with calabari?
Look at it carefully and cry

Igboid:


Don't be silly.
Provide document showing Colonials linking Bonny to "Ejo or people of Jos" as you were known in colonial era.
Are you okay at all?

The people of New Calabar were not a people of single origin or single language at this time in history.
Even the King of New Calabar was of Igbo origin and the people of New Calabar who found themselves in Sierre Leone were definitely Igbo speaking and identified with Igbo union there as Bom-Ibo!

You showed people wrote about Bonny?
Right! Now show where they wrote of Bonny origin and linked their origin to Ejo or Jos people of Kolokuma!
It shouldn't be that hard to find!

Even Baike you are quoting, said point blank that Bonny ancestors originated from Igboland!
See it on second picture!

Alabo7978:

Remember a screenshot from someone you or one of your goons showed?
And it roughly quotes "in the HINTERLAND, the ibos have their various clan or tribe, but outside they are one nation; Igbo"
The ijos we're not earlier grouped because they were in their land, but nevertheless, I will grant your wish like a genie, you see your bolded words? Watch me shatter them.
The first screenshot is John Clarke adding the ijoid Languages after then earlier expedition.

You claim the freed people of sierraleone are definetly people of IBO origin?
Look at the second screenshot by German scholar Sigismund Koelle who published the book 'polyglotta Africana' in 1850's Grouping the ijoid Language and other African Language(thumping your falsehood, lol. I'm enjoying this)

The third screenshot is baikie himself still trying to figure out the ijoid Languages.

Now that I have showed you, I know you will still look for a way to dance out away from this again.
Now go to sleep little boy.

Igboid:


You are a clown.
If your argument is language, then you lost already, because we know that Bonny main town and Opobo speak Igbo as mother tongue today as we write!

But this argument is not about language because Igbos already won that war and you are the ones fighting to murder the Igbo language those places.

The argument here is about the origin of Aboriginal people of Bonny Island and Opobo.

Every single source, including your Baike noted that the people said they came from Igbo hinterland.

If at a point in time they switched their language to Ijoid language as Baike and Glynn seem to imply, then that is okay by Igbos, what matters is that they found a way to reswitch back to their ancestral Igbo language. Which is why they are Igbo speaking today!

Your argument is hinged on the language they were speaking when Baike and Kolle visited, in as much as I doubt they were speaking Ijoid language then, but I don't care as it doesn't affect the meat of this argument. What matters is that they were Originally Igbos and speak Igbo as mother tongue today.

What they did in between these two, like speaking an Ijoid language at a point in history, is irrelevant and redundant!

Anonymous15:

Do you see the bolded statement of you, isn't it you who was asking for colonial people linking Bonny to ijo a while ago?

Isn't it you claiming sierraleone freed slaves were ibos but that was trashed by a screenshot of Sigismund Koelle on his book 'polyglotta Africana'

But when documents where provided
You danced out again to Language Currently spoken
without knowing that is your final headstone.
Now go to sleep loser.

Igboid:

Wikipedia edited pages. We will soon edit it too.
Bonny main town speaks Igbo which is why your Ijaw chief Fraudster masquerading as historian has been running around holding events to surplant Igbo language of Bonny.
I asked for historical document showing that Indigenes of Bonny considered Ejo men as their ancestors and not Igboland.

You have not provided any.
See example below from Leonard Glynn linking Bonny to Eboes!

Anonymous15:

Do you see the bolded statement of you, isn't it you who was asking for colonial people linking Bonny to ijo a while ago?

Isn't it you claiming sierraleone freed slaves were ibos but that was trashed by a screenshot of Sigismund Koelle on his book 'polyglotta Africana'

But when documents where provided
You danced out again to Language Currently spoken
without knowing that is your final headstone.
Now go to sleep loser.

9Pluto:


Ijaws are obviously later migrants to the delta who are emboldened by their success in absorbing/eliminating other tribes they met on ground.

Ask your ijaw friends why has it become almost impossible for them to provide a 19th century document Bonny people claim an Ijaw descent? Why?

oyatz:


You don't seems to understand the real meaning of ethnic Identities.


Ethnic Identities= who we say we are!



It doesn't matter who a British slave raider said their great-grandfathers were or even who their grandparents said they were but how the people see themselves NOW.


Ethnic Identity is largely a self-identity.

Alabo7978:

Brother man, going in circles again...
Didn't I show you?
Na wa for you o
Are you drunk?

oyatz:
Many young igbo irredentists inspired by the IPOB agitations for Republic of Biafra are trying to re-define the ethnic identities of many places along the southern coast on social media.



However, one major fact they forget to acknowledge is the PEOPLE concerned.


Do Bonny and Opobo peoples see themselves as Igbos in 2021?


You can NOT tell or know the history of a people more than the peoples themselves.

oyatz:


You don't seems to understand the real meaning of ethnic Identities.


Ethnic Identities= who we say we are!



It doesn't matter who a British slave raider said their great-grandfathers were or even who their grandparents said they were but how the people see themselves NOW.


Ethnic Identity is largely a self-identity.

Alabo7978:

Remember a screenshot from someone you or one of your goons showed?
And it roughly quotes "in the HINTERLAND, the ibos have their various clan or tribe, but outside they are one nation; Igbo"
The ijos we're not earlier grouped because they were in their land, but nevertheless, I will grant your wish like a genie, you see your bolded words? Watch me shatter them.
The first screenshot is John Clarke adding the ijoid Languages after then earlier expedition.

You claim the freed people of sierraleone are definetly people of IBO origin?
Look at the second screenshot by German scholar Sigismund Koelle who published the book 'polyglotta Africana' in 1850's Grouping the ijoid Language and other African Language(thumping your falsehood, lol. I'm enjoying this)

The third screenshot is baikie himself still trying to figure out the ijoid Languages.

Now that I have showed you, I know you will still look for a way to dance out away from this again.
Now go to sleep little boy.

michelz:

Mr. man, what are you actually doing?
You are making yourself a laughing stock all over this thread. Show any proof at all that Bonny people were Jos people and you are posting excerpts of few vocabularies. What is the matter with you? You fail to understand that people are actually following this thread and taking notes.

Kinematics:
Op you get time to dey reply ibo stupidit*

JANK23H:
These people are bent on getting to the sea Alabo, nothing will make them reason along your line of argument.

I've told myself not to bother on this issue, otherwise I would have brought out excepts from their much loved Captain Crow that contradicts their argument.In the end,there is no point.They'll continue to argue blindly.

Then again,I'm impressed with your write-up.Again you've set the record straight.Written works from Valentim Fernandez, Jean Barbot and Captain Pereira would affirm your argument.

To the one talking about international court,please make haste.No be to talk for mouth.

JANK23H:

Lol




Loller



Lollest

ebufa:




Absolute trash! what he brought as evidence is totally incongruous to his stated claims.....did you people participate in debates in school at all?

Alabo7978:

Clown..
You were notified of this thread from your WhatsApp group and all you did was enter politics---search the title-----click-----click page 4------ click on the "scroll down" tag and voila you're commenting...
People are seeing this thread and yes they know I'm stating facts and I'm stating it clearly and intelligently, now carefully follow the thread because I won't go back and forth with another member from your clown group only for another one of you to come back here again to tire me down; never.
I didn't make this thread for it to be the most viewed or to hit front page. I did this thread to clear the misconception you IPOBIANS are creating.
I use to be a ghost viewer on nairaland till I stumbled on your band of landgrabbers. However this thread isn't for Bonny people(because you can't go there to spew this trash to the Aseme-alapu and AMAYANABO) but for the hinterlanders and Bonny people in diaspora who are mislead by your kind.
Now get out of this thread if you can't follow it properly.

michelz:

So have you conducted a referendum to determine who Bonny people say they are?
In the case of Nigeria vs Cameroon, concerning Bakassi, though majority of the inhabitants claimed they were Nigerians, how did the judgement go?

OfoIgbo:


Their ancestors know more about their history than them.

Dakuku Peterside knows his heritage also