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Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 12:58am On May 01, 2022
This post is in response to a post I saw earlier here
https://www.nairaland.com/7099965/polygamy-not-sin-reno-acts

So since this Yul Edochie marrying another wife news made rounds lately, many people have been voicing different opinions. One is that Polygamy is not a sin. Using the examples of the old testament men who married more than one wife but still related with God as justification they support this claim.
Dear Christian, Moses is NOT your Standard, David is NOT your Standard, NO old testament Saint is your Standard... JESUS is your Standard.
Jesus speaking in Matt 5 : 27&28 said " You have heard that it was said, 'do not commit adultery' but I tell you that any one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Niv)
Here Jesus quoted (and by so doing acknowledged the veracity of) the law of Moses, but HE INCREASED THE STANDARD!!
JESUS INCREASED THE STANDARD!!

Same thing applies to Polygamy, it was "permitted" in the old testament but because Jesus has come, the standard has increased!! Does that mean that God has changed?? NO, But rather Know that "Any time the knowledge of [the person and the will of] God increases, the standard with which God judges increases" Read James 3:1
Ok Let's read Acts 17:30
"In the past God OVERLOOKED such ignorance, BUT NOW he commands all people everywhere to repent" (Niv)
JESUS IS A GREATER REVELATION OF GODS PERSON AND STANDARDS THAN MOSES(THE LAW)
And so Because We are in the dispensation of the new convenant, Jesus is our Standard.
Let's read 1 Cor 7: 2, "But since there is so much immorality, each man should have HIS OWN wife, and each woman HER OWN husband"
Paul knew this and so he spoke accordingly.
The problem we have today is that many people who profess to be Christian are still thinking and living as if they are in the old testament times... In the old order, Serving God is a matter of THOU SHALL AND THOU SHALL NOT... , Is this thing a sin or not..
That kind of thinking.
In this dispensation of Grace, we look through the lens of LOVE FOR GOD. If we claim we love God, we should be willing to do away with the natural (and yes sinful) desire to have more than wife, why?? Because the grace to do so is available in the person of Jesus!!
Read Heb 4: 14 -16 Titus 2: 11 -13 If you want more than one wife you should go and practice Judaism and not Christianity. Peace!!
Lalasticalala mynd44 please do the needful

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Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 1:10am On May 01, 2022
Matt 19:7 "Moses PERMITTED you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard, but it was not so from the beginning" (Niv) That God permitted something in the past doesnt make it a standard, he does so because we humans are imperfect and sometimes very difficult to deal with especially when we have little knowledge of him, but as we come to know him better the standards increases and he no longer permits many things he permitted before. Many people will attack this view but the Truth remains the Truth cool cool lalasticalala mynd44 OAM4J abeg make una do the needful
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Kobojunkie: 1:36am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
Many people will attack this view but the Truth remains the Truth cool cool
But neither Jesus Christ, nor God, ever issued any commandment against Polygamy/Polyandry, and we know that God's Law defines for us what Sin is - His is the standard we are meant to model our very lives by. undecided

Even Jesus Christ made it clear that those who love Him, God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God, are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings(and commandments) - John 14 vs 15 - 25. And not a single command given by Him decrees polygamy(Polyandry and polygyny) a sin for His followers, so who are you to attempt to sell what is your personal opinion, as if God's Truth?, undecided

Have you no fear of God at all? undecided
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Kobojunkie: 1:38am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:

Here Jesus quoted (and by so doing acknowledged the veracity of) the law of Moses, but HE INCREASED THE STANDARD!!
JESUS INCREASED THE STANDARD!!

Same thing applies to Polygamy, it was "permitted" in the old testament but because Jesus has come, the standard has increased!! Does that mean that God has changed?? NO, But rather Know that "Any time the knowledge of [the person and the will of] God increases, the standard with which God judges increases" Read James 3:1
Ok Let's read Acts 17:30
"In the past God OVERLOOKED such ignorance, BUT NOW he commands all people everywhere to repent" (Niv)
JESUS IS A GREATER REVELATION OF GODS PERSON AND STANDARDS THAN MOSES(THE LAW)
And so Because We are in the dispensation of the new convenant, Jesus is our Standard.
Let's read 1 Cor 7: 2, "But since there is so much immorality, each man should have HIS OWN wife, and each woman HER OWN husband"
Paul knew this and so he spoke accordingly.
The problem we have today is that many people who profess to be Christian are still thinking and living as if they are in the old testament times... In the old order, Serving God is a matter of THOU SHALL AND THOU SHALL NOT... , Is this thing a sin or not..
That kind of thinking.
In this dispensation of Grace, we look through the lens of LOVE FOR GOD. If we claim we love God, we should be willing to do away with the natural (and yes sinful) desire to have more than wife, why?? Because the grace to do so is available in the person of Jesus!!
Read Heb 4: 14 -16 Titus 2: 11 -13 If you want more than one wife you should go and practice Judaism and not Christianity. Peace!!
This is all nothing but another bullsheet attempt at selling what is the doctrines /opinions and traditions of men , lies Jesus Christ them, as if God's Truth. undecided
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Karlovych: 3:47am On May 01, 2022
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Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by money121(m): 4:01am On May 01, 2022
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Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Jokerman(m): 6:55am On May 01, 2022
Kobojunkie:
But neither Jesus Christ, nor God, ever issued any commandment against Polygamy/Polyandry, and we know that God's Law defines for us what Sin is - His is the standard we are meant to model our very lives by. undecided

Even Jesus Christ made it clear that those who love Him, God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God, are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings(and commandments) - John 14 vs 15 - 25. And not a single command given by Him decrees polygamy(Polyandry and polygyny) a sin for His followers, so who are you to attempt to sell what is your personal opinion, as if God's Truth?, undecided

Have you no fear of God at all? undecided

Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus tells you here that God's original plan is 1 man, 1 woman... not 1 man and 2 woman.

A man shall cleave to his wife, not wives.

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Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:01am On May 01, 2022
Just one verse will shatter all these.

David had wives. God even gave David more wives! God then said David was perfect except in the case of Uriah.

So David marrying many wives was part of the things he did right in the eyes of the LORD!

For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not turned aside from anything the LORD commanded all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. 1 Kings 15:5

If God sees nothing wrong with polygamy in your Bible as in the case of David so who are you to forbid it?

Read More post on the allowance of Polygamy in the Bible on Nairaland.

1. If He Marries Another Woman..

https://www.nairaland.com/7032447/he-marries-another-woman

2. God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029702/god-said-he-gave-wives

3. The Context Is DIVORCE NOT POLYGAMY

https://www.nairaland.com/7032858/context-divorce-not-polygamy

4. Jesus Used A Parable That Includes Polygamy

https://www.nairaland.com/7029727/jesus-used-parable-includes-polygamy

5. Polygamy In Christianity- (one Flesh)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029678/polygamy-christianity-one-flesh

6. Why Did Yahweh Support Polygamy?

https://www.nairaland.com/6093345/why-did-yahweh-support-polygamy
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 7:01am On May 01, 2022
Kobojunkie:
But neither Jesus Christ, nor God, ever issued any commandment against Polygamy/Polyandry, and we know that God's Law defines for us what Sin is - His is the standard we are meant to model our very lives by. undecided

Even Jesus Christ made it clear that those who love Him, God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God, are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings(and commandments) - John 14 vs 15 - 25. And not a single command given by Him decrees polygamy(Polyandry and polygyny) a sin for His followers, so who are you to attempt to sell what is your personal opinion, as if God's Truth?, undecided

Have you no fear of God at all? undecided
Jesus issued a command against polygamy in matt 19: 3-14
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:05am On May 01, 2022
Jokerman:


Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus tells you here that God's original plan is 1 man, 1 woman... not 1 man and 2 woman.

A man shall cleave to his wife, not wives.

The context of the question and answer is divorce not polygamy.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:06am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
Jesus issued a command against polygamy in matt 19: 3-14

That verse is on divorce not polygamy.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Jokerman(m): 7:19am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


The context of the question and answer is divorce not polygamy.

Its answers polygamy... see the answer below for divorce....

Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


If you study the passage property, you will see Jesus always saying One man, one wife.... One woman, one husband.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 7:28am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


That verse is on divorce not polygamy.
Brother that verse also applies to polygamy, the pharisees asked Jesus specifically about divorce so he focused on that, matt 19:7 "Moses PERMITTED you to..." Polygamy also falls into the PERMITTED category of marital practices, if this wasnt so then Paul an Apostle of the new testament wouldnt have discouraged it in 1Cor 7:1-3
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:29am On May 01, 2022
Jokerman:


Its answers polygamy... see the answer below for divorce....

Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


If you study the passage property, you will see Jesus always saying One man, one wife.... One woman, one husband.

Only a stupid judge gives a ruling for breaking marriage and transcribes it for marriage.

Where was polygamy mentioned?

In Matthew 19:3-9, Jesus was not speaking about polygamy. Rather, He is only answering a question about divorce. Indeed, the entire passage is about divorce, not polygamy.

"Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Matthew 19:3-9.

Indeed, in Matthew 19:8-9, Jesus simply repeats the Deuteronomy 24:1 "as it had been in the beginning", that God has always been against divorce of what He joined together. In Matthew 19:3, the Pharisees were asking about "every" reason for divorcing, but Jesus returned back with the only one allowed reason (the woman's "fornication / uncleanness"wink, as per Deuteronomy 24:1.

Polygamy is about marriage, whereas divorce is about breaking up marriage. Accordingly, Jesus was not speaking against pro-marriage polygamy in Matthew 19. He was instead addressing marriage-destruction of divorce. It was about divorce, not polygamy.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Jokerman(m): 7:38am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


Only a stupid judge gives a ruling for breaking marriage and transcribes it for marriage.

Where was polygamy mentioned?

In Matthew 19:3-9, Jesus was not speaking about polygamy. Rather, He is only answering a question about divorce. Indeed, the entire passage is about divorce, not polygamy.

"Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Matthew 19:3-9.

Indeed, in Matthew 19:8-9, Jesus simply repeats the Deuteronomy 24:1 "as it had been in the beginning", that God has always been against divorce of what He joined together. In Matthew 19:3, the Pharisees were asking about "every" reason for divorcing, but Jesus returned back with the only one allowed reason (the woman's "fornication / uncleanness"wink, as per Deuteronomy 24:1.

Polygamy is about marriage, whereas divorce is about breaking up marriage. Accordingly, Jesus was not speaking against pro-marriage polygamy in Matthew 19. He was instead addressing marriage-destruction of divorce. It was about divorce, not polygamy.

You can't know more than God.

Jesus used that message to answer divorce, polygamy and homosexuality....open your eyes!

Jesus is the standard. Not David, or Solomon, or Mary
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:39am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
Brother that verse also applies to polygamy, the pharisees asked Jesus specifically about divorce so he focused on that, matt 19:7 "Moses PERMITTED you to..." Polygamy also falls into the PERMITTED category of marital practices, if this wasnt so then Paul an Apostle of the new testament wouldnt have discouraged it in 1Cor 7:1-3

Moses didn't permitted polygamy. Moses brought "You shall not commit adultery" yet he married more than once.

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
Exodus 21:10

Yahweh makes laws protecting the First wife & previous wives here.
Note that this verse comes only 22 verses AFTER the 7th Commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery"wink in Exodus 20:14.

Moses wrote all these yet he still married two wives.

And Moses had a high holy Spirit level in Numbers 11:25
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 7:42am On May 01, 2022
Jokerman:


You can't know more than God.

Jesus used that message to answer divorce, polygamy and homosexuality....open your eyes!

Jesus is the standard. Not David, or Solomon, or Mary

If Jesus never mentioned polygamy why mention it in that verse? Divorce was mentioned how did you include what Jesus or the questioner did not include?

And God have David more wives. Wasn't Jesus aware God permitted polygamy for David and others?
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Jokerman(m): 7:48am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


If Jesus never mentioned polygamy why mention it in that verse? Divorce was mentioned how did you include what Jesus or the questioner did not include?

And God have David more wives. Wasn't Jesus aware God permitted polygamy for David and others?


Did Jesus mention homosexuality there too? But you know Jesus is against it... the Bible is what you study to understand.

Like I said Jesus is the standard.

Anyone who claims to be a CHRISTIAN(Follower of Jesus), knows Jesus does not support polygamy

As a Christian, you ought to be monogamous and content, that's why you watch and pray before marriage.

However, if you are not a Christian, or born again or some other religion, then you can do what you like...

However, Jesus is the only way to God
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 8:01am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


Moses didn't permitted polygamy. Moses brought "You shall not commit adultery" yet he married more than once.

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
Exodus 21:10

Yahweh makes laws protecting the First wife & previous wives here.
Note that this verse comes only 22 verses AFTER the 7th Commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery"wink in Exodus 20:14.

Moses wrote all these yet he still married two wives.

And Moses had a high holy Spirit level in Numbers 11:25
Brother why did you not address Paul's stance in 1Cor 7:2 you only focused on Moses who is of the old convenant and NOT our standard, lol guy go and practice Judaism if you want to support polygamy!!
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 8:24am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
Brother why did you not address Paul's stance in 1Cor 7:2 you only focused on Moses who is of the old convenant and NOT our standard, lol guy go and practice Judaism if you want to support polygamy!!

Why would I quote a letter to the Corinthians for us in Nigeria?

Jesus quoted what Moses said in Deuteronomy in Matthew.

Moses knew the law is against against adultery yet married two.

Even Paul did not forbid polygamy for everyone.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by GardenOfGod(m): 8:38am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:
Just one verse will shatter all these.

David had wives. God even gave David more wives! God then said David was perfect except in the case of Uriah.

So David marrying many wives was part of the things he did right in the eyes of the LORD!

For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not turned aside from anything the LORD commanded all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. 1 Kings 15:5

If God sees nothing wrong with polygamy in your Bible as in the case of David so who are you to forbid it?

Read More post on the allowance of Polygamy in the Bible on Nairaland.

1. If He Marries Another Woman..

https://www.nairaland.com/7032447/he-marries-another-woman

2. God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029702/god-said-he-gave-wives

3. The Context Is DIVORCE NOT POLYGAMY

https://www.nairaland.com/7032858/context-divorce-not-polygamy

4. Jesus Used A Parable That Includes Polygamy

https://www.nairaland.com/7029727/jesus-used-parable-includes-polygamy

5. Polygamy In Christianity- (one Flesh)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029678/polygamy-christianity-one-flesh

6. Why Did Yahweh Support Polygamy?

https://www.nairaland.com/6093345/why-did-yahweh-support-polygamy
See how liberal, social and civil Christians are? You being a Muslim has the free access into our thread and contribute your ideas, but the same is not in your own Islamic threads.... Can you see the difference?

You will agree with me that if we Christians were to say all the things you are saying against Christ and God to your Muhammad and Allah, heaven would let loose!

Islam in all its idealogy is anti humanity in nature.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by GardenOfGod(m): 8:42am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
Brother why did you not address Paul's stance in 1Cor 7:2 you only focused on Moses who is of the old convenant and NOT our standard, lol guy go and practice Judaism if you want to support polygamy!!
Well said brother! Polygamy is a Judaism practice same as jihad, no female education, terrorism, beheading, and the likes are islamic religious practices.
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 8:48am On May 01, 2022
GardenOfGod:

See how liberal, social and civil Christians are? You being a Muslim has the free access into our thread and contribute your ideas, but the same is not in your own Islamic threads.... Can you see the difference?

No difference! Many Christians lie to be in our threads to directly abuse Allah and his Prophet. Where did i abuse your God or Jesus directly?
Contribute ideas and be sane is cool. But being abusive, cursive and show lack of home training is what these Christians do on our threads everyday.

You will agree with me that if we Christians were to say all the things you are saying against Christ and God to your Muhammad and Allah, heaven would let loose!
Your Christians say far worse things! First they had to lie to be in our section. They lied. Then they abuse, distort, impugn, lie again, twist texts all to prove Christianity.

Islam in all its idealogy is anti humanity in nature.

It's antihuman, that's why Christians are bound by the freedom mentality.
Let the one who is sinless be the first to cast the first stone! Till the whole society is corrupt!
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by GardenOfGod(m): 8:51am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


No difference! Many Christians lie to be in our threads to directly abuse Allah and his Prophet. Where did i abuse your God or Jesus directly?
Contribute ideas and be sane is cool. But being abusive, cursive and show lack of home training is what these Christians do on our threads everyday.
Your Christians say far worse things! First they had to lie to be in our section. They lied. Then they abuse, distort, impugn, lie again, twist texts all to prove Christianity.



It's antihuman, that's why Christians are bound by the freedom mentality.
Let the one who is sinless be the first to cast the first stone! Till the whole society is corrupt!

Why do you have to block free access to your session? Why?
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by GardenOfGod(m): 8:54am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


No difference! Many Christians lie to be in our threads to directly abuse Allah and his Prophet. Where did i abuse your God or Jesus directly?
Contribute ideas and be sane is cool. But being abusive, cursive and show lack of home training is what these Christians do on our threads everyday.
Your Christians say far worse things! First they had to lie to be in our section. They lied. Then they abuse, distort, impugn, lie again, twist texts all to prove Christianity.



It's antihuman, that's why Christians are bound by the freedom mentality.
Let the one who is sinless be the first to cast the first stone! Till the whole society is corrupt!

Is it true that beheading, no to girl child education, jihad for 72 virgins, suicide bombings are all part of Islamic religious practices?
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 8:58am On May 01, 2022
GardenOfGod:

Is it true that beheading, no to girl child education, jihad for 72 virgins, suicide bombings are all part of Islamic religious practices?

You should that out yourself whether those are Islamic practices in the Qur'an or Sunnah!

And how many have such happened to around you?
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by NuclearReactor: 9:11am On May 01, 2022
AntiChristian:


Why would I quote a letter to the Corinthians for us in Nigeria?

Jesus quoted what Moses said in Deuteronomy in Matthew.

Moses knew the law is against against adultery yet married two.

Even Paul did not forbid polygamy for everyone.
lol in the scripture that Paul didnt forbid polygamy for all, paul was talking specifically to people who wanted to be pastors, the focus of that conversation with timothy wasnt euerybody
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 9:14am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
lol in the scripture that Paul didnt forbid polygamy for all, paul was talking specifically to people who wanted to be pastors, the focus of that conversation with timothy wasnt euerybody

So why bring Paul in to the equation?

Where was Polygamy forbidden?

Where was marriage restricted to one man one wife in the context of marriage (not divorce) as in Matthew?
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by AntiChristian: 9:14am On May 01, 2022
NuclearReactor:
This post is in response to a post I saw earlier here
https://www.nairaland.com/7099965/polygamy-not-sin-reno-acts

So since this Yul Edochie marrying another wife news made rounds lately, many people have been voicing different opinions. One is that Polygamy is not a sin. Using the examples of the old testament men who married more than one wife but still related with God as justification they support this claim.
Dear Christian, Moses is NOT your Standard, David is NOT your Standard, NO old testament Saint is your Standard... JESUS is your Standard.
Jesus speaking in Matt 5 : 27&28 said " You have heard that it was said, 'do not commit adultery' but I tell you that any one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Niv)
Here Jesus quoted (and by so doing acknowledged the veracity of) the law of Moses, but HE INCREASED THE STANDARD!!
JESUS INCREASED THE STANDARD!!

Same thing applies to Polygamy, it was "permitted" in the old testament but because Jesus has come, the standard has increased!! Does that mean that God has changed?? NO, But rather Know that "Any time the knowledge of [the person and the will of] God increases, the standard with which God judges increases" Read James 3:1
Ok Let's read Acts 17:30
"In the past God OVERLOOKED such ignorance, BUT NOW he commands all people everywhere to repent" (Niv)
JESUS IS A GREATER REVELATION OF GODS PERSON AND STANDARDS THAN MOSES(THE LAW)
And so Because We are in the dispensation of the new convenant, Jesus is our Standard.
Let's read 1 Cor 7: 2, "But since there is so much immorality, each man should have HIS OWN wife, and each woman HER OWN husband"
Paul knew this and so he spoke accordingly.
The problem we have today is that many people who profess to be Christian are still thinking and living as if they are in the old testament times... In the old order, Serving God is a matter of THOU SHALL AND THOU SHALL NOT... , Is this thing a sin or not..
That kind of thinking.
In this dispensation of Grace, we look through the lens of LOVE FOR GOD. If we claim we love God, we should be willing to do away with the natural (and yes sinful) desire to have more than wife, why?? Because the grace to do so is available in the person of Jesus!!
Read Heb 4: 14 -16 Titus 2: 11 -13 If you want more than one wife you should go and practice Judaism and not Christianity. Peace!!
Lalasticalala mynd44 please do the needful


Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.


Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.


Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.


As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/god-said-he-gave-wives/
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by HRprof: 9:29am On May 01, 2022
The truth is that those who authored the Bible wish they can edit it cool cool white people that brought Christianity to us are the master of divorce yet they want Africans to buy their idea of one man one woman in their book. undecided undecided
Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by GreatAxeMan: 9:36am On May 01, 2022
Are you saying they're not? You're not ashamed of Prophet Sex Award Winner (SAW) Prison and Beatings Upon Him (PBUH)?


AntiChristian:


You should that out yourself whether those are Islamic practices in the Qur'an or Sunnah!

And how many have such happened to around you?

Re: Re: Christianity Doesn't Support Polygamy, Polygamy Is A Sin by Kobojunkie: 10:56am On May 01, 2022
Jokerman:
Jesus tells you here that God's original plan is 1 man, 1 woman... not 1 man and 2 woman.

A man shall cleave to his wife, not wives.
The Law Jesus Christ quoted to the Pharisee Is God's Law regarding marriage in the beginning when God instituted marriage - Genesis 2 vs 24 - and Jesus Christ did not add or remove from that which God had declared. undecided

If you read that Law closely, what it says is that marriage is the agreement between a man and a woman - the definition of the unit itself. undecided

What it does not say is that
*. a man or woman can only enter into a marriage agreement with only one other woman or man
* a man or woman must enter into a marriage agreement

That very same laws justifies the multiple marriages of Old and now, and even the Eunuchs that God created and allowed, then and now. undecided

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