famouscargo4u:
El Rufai having tried it on his own, now he wants to bequeath same. In no time, it will become a norm thereby cancelling the interest of millions of Christians in Kaduna. No wonder violence and attacks only occur in Christian dominated areas.

This is not true, crisis and kidnapping occur in many areas not dominated by Christians. The worst hit is Birningwari axis and dominated by Muslims

Ojuntana:


I don't have a problem with that. What I'm talking about is Hell Ruffian choosing a Muslim woman from SK to deputize him, and also hand over same deputy to his incoming successor while claiming to be a "progressive". It's obvious she's being used as a bogeywoman and not on any sort of higher principles as he likes to claim.

The reason both parties will not zone to the south is same reason both parties did not zone to the South in their presidential primaries. It's a game of subjugation that is systemic

Have you heard the woman speak? You'll understand better what I'm saying

Honestly the southern Kaduna people loathe el rufai and apc esp the Christians.she is the Best person apc has there.
I have told you that adamu and Buhari choice does not represent apc choice.I dont know why you still stubbornly maintain these stance. L

numericalguy:



My grandfather ruled over your grandfather
My father's generation rules over your father
I will rule over you
My children will rule over your children
And it goes on and on.

Do you the sweetest part of it is that there is nothing you can do about it.

Keep masturbating.

jditimiya:


Let them stand and take over the state or draw up a plan to get a state of their own.

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They shouldn't take over the state, both religious faith can work together and learn one or two things. If those in power are serious, Kaduna state suppose to have been divided into two states. Those politicans who encourages disaffection, are not upright. They all hide under the canopy of religion to perpetrate injustice. Being an oppressive individual, it's not godly. It's left for the people of southern Kaduna to get serious.

garfield1:



Honestly the southern Kaduna people loathe el rufai and apc esp the Christians.she is the Best person apc has there.
I have told you that adamu and Buhari choice does not represent apc choice.I dont know why you still stubbornly maintain these stance. L

Well, they loathe him because he has proven to be a bigot from time immemorial. She is not the best person APC has there. Samuel Aruwan is from SK too. Why didn't he pick him?

Who are the leaders of the APC? You mention the two most important personalities in an organization and you say their organizational preferences does not matter? Really?

ScamHunter:


Christians in Nigeria are not wise. Wasn't it Nigerian Christians that carried Buhari's election on their heads in 2015? Even against a Christian, these same southern Kaduna Christians and Benue Christians being massacred today lacked sense

Try always get ur facts correct before showing ur ignorance to the public.
Go check, we have never supported Buhari from 2015 till date, he has not won all the elections in our side.

Ojuntana:


Well, they loathe him because he has proven to be a bigot from time immemorial. She is not the best person APC has there. Samuel Aruwan is from SK too. Why didn't he pick him?

Who are the leaders of the APC? You mention the two most important personalities in an organization and you say their organizational preferences does not matter? Really?

Aruwan is a technocrat not a politician.it is like
making femi adesina a running mate...

Their opinion matters as far as majority agree with them.they failed to get a reasonable majority and they failed.even in the nwc, adamu was outnumbered.officially,buhari can only have his say during the NEC meeting and he would still be outnumbered..therefore the official policy of apc is to zone powr down south and the result is tinubu....

Jd10k:
*Political Facts:*
1. Are you aware that there is only one Muslim governor in the whole southern Nigeria, Gov. Oyetola of Osun out of 17 states.

2. Are you aware that there are only two Muslim Deputy Gov. in the whole southern Nigeria.

3. In the North there are four Christian Governors out of 19 states.

4. Eight Christian deputy Governors out of 19 states.

5. Are you aware there are 20 Christian Governors and 16 Muslim Governors in Nigeria.

6. Do you know there are 23 Christian Deputy Governors and 13 Muslim Deputy Governors in Nigeria.

Despite this *CAN* is still shouting of Islamization agenda. But is this Christianization agenda of the south? No, because southern Muslims are more liberal and won't shout or make noise but if it is the opposite *CAN* would raise hell.

Wao, never thought of this.

akaahs:

Try always get ur facts correct before showing ur ignorance to the public.
Go check, we have never supported Buhari from 2015 till date, he has not won all the elections in our side.

Who are we?

modsfucker:


50% you say? The 2019 victory should tell you that the 50-50 assumption is not correct.

Which election in 2019
Why didn't he try it in 2015 election??

I don't know why we see truth and run away from it. The question should be performance, not religious that's why Africa is in trouble and backward. We should evaluate our leaders on performance
If they pick your pastor without performance you will still suffer.

akaahs:

Which election in 2019
Why didn't he try it in 2015 election??

What difference does that make? He did it in 2019 and it's about to be repeated in 2023, if you have the numbers, stop it.

Jd10k:
*Political Facts:*
1. Are you aware that there is only one Muslim governor in the whole southern Nigeria, Gov. Oyetola of Osun out of 17 states.

2. Are you aware that there are only two Muslim Deputy Gov. in the whole southern Nigeria.

3. In the North there are four Christian Governors out of 19 states.

4. Eight Christian deputy Governors out of 19 states.

5. Are you aware there are 20 Christian Governors and 16 Muslim Governors in Nigeria.

6. Do you know there are 23 Christian Deputy Governors and 13 Muslim Deputy Governors in Nigeria.

Despite this *CAN* is still shouting of Islamization agenda. But is this Christianization agenda of the south? No, because southern Muslims are more liberal and won't shout or make noise but if it is the opposite *CAN* would raise hell.

Analysing your statistics their are more Christian in Nigeria than Muslims,the SE,SS,SW(except osun) are predominantly Christians while the middle belt states of taraba,plateau has more christians population,Bauchi, southern borno has more christian.leaving only the NW of Sokoto,Kano,Katsina, Zamfara has more Muslims then NE of Yobe,Gombe,Borno with more Muslims.

garfield1:


Aruwan is a technocrat not a politician.it is like
making femi adesina a running mate...

Their opinion matters as far as majority agree with them.they failed to get a reasonable majority and they failed.even in the nwc, adamu was outnumbered.officially,buhari can only have his say during the NEC meeting and he would still be outnumbered..therefore the official policy of apc is to zone powr down south and the result is tinubu....

I thought hel ruffian sees himself as a technocrat in politics. Shouldn't he promote a technocrat like him so Kd can be in the best hands. With this your assertion, it can be said that APC does not have the best interest of Kd at heart.
Who dictates the official policy of APC. Is it not NEC? Did NEC not hand over its powers to NWC to take decisions on their behalf. If the head of NEC and NWC say this is the way to go, why should the members revolt?
Zoning is not recognized in APC constitution and APC as a party never zoned South. It was a group of northern govs that went South. That was a political decision not an official policy of the party.
It was political coup.
Which is why APC has been wobbling at the knee over the choice of VP

Southern Kaduna need a state badly.

Jd10k:
*Political Facts:*
1. Are you aware that there is only one Muslim governor in the whole southern Nigeria, Gov. Oyetola of Osun out of 17 states.

2. Are you aware that there are only two Muslim Deputy Gov. in the whole southern Nigeria.

3. In the North there are four Christian Governors out of 19 states.

4. Eight Christian deputy Governors out of 19 states.

5. Are you aware there are 20 Christian Governors and 16 Muslim Governors in Nigeria.

6. Do you know there are 23 Christian Deputy Governors and 13 Muslim Deputy Governors in Nigeria.

Despite this *CAN* is still shouting of Islamization agenda. But is this Christianization agenda of the south? No, because southern Muslims are more liberal and won't shout or make noise but if it is the opposite *CAN* would raise hell.

God bless you!

Ojuntana:

I thought hel ruffian sees himself as a technocrat in politics. Shouldn't he promote a technocrat like him so Kd can be in the best hands. With this your assertion, it can be said that APC does not have the best interest of Kd at heart.
Who dictates the official policy of APC. Is it not NEC? Did NEC not hand over its powers to NWC to take decisions on their behalf. If the head of NEC and NWC say this is the way to go, why should the members revolt?
Zoning is not recognized in APC constitution and APC as a party never zoned South. It was a group of northern govs that went South. That was a political decision not an official policy of the party.
It was political coup.
Which is why APC has been wobbling at the knee over the choice of VP

Are you saying that they should be no dissenting voice in the party? So anything Buhari and adamu says is final,is that how democracy works? If so,why why is there a nerd for a nwc? The chair should be the only nwc member then...
All members of the nwc including the chairman are elected and therefore do not serve at his behest.all have equal rights and votes.the apc is a Democratic party and operates democratically through a simple majority...

Article 14.1 says the chairman have a tie breaking vote in case of a tie during meetings.
Article 25 b says all decisions of the nwc shall be by a simple majority.did a simple majority side with the chairman? How many members sided with him?
Finally,article 13.1 says the national convention is the highest organ,the highest authority in the party and its decision is final and can only be voided by a court.the national convention of the party voted tinubu.therefore,tinubu is the choice of the party....I think the matter is settled

Jd10k:
*Political Facts:*
1. Are you aware that there is only one Muslim governor in the whole southern Nigeria, Gov. Oyetola of Osun out of 17 states.

2. Are you aware that there are only two Muslim Deputy Gov. in the whole southern Nigeria.

3. In the North there are four Christian Governors out of 19 states.

4. Eight Christian deputy Governors out of 19 states.

5. Are you aware there are 20 Christian Governors and 16 Muslim Governors in Nigeria.

6. Do you know there are 23 Christian Deputy Governors and 13 Muslim Deputy Governors in Nigeria.

Despite this *CAN* is still shouting of Islamization agenda. But is this Christianization agenda of the south? No, because southern Muslims are more liberal and won't shout or make noise but if it is the opposite *CAN* would raise hell.

Treat people fair if you cannot treat them equal.
The least is to treat anyone you meet fair. It brings peace and development.
That is a good leadership

garfield1:


Are you saying that they should be no dissenting voice in the party? So anything Buhari and adamu says is final,is that how democracy works? If so,why why is there a nerd for a nwc? The chair should be the only nwc member then...
All members of the nwc including the chairman are elected and therefore do not serve at his behest.all have equal rights and votes.the apc is a Democratic party and operates democratically through a simple majority...

Article 14.1 says the chairman have a tie breaking vote in case of a tie during meetings.
Article 25 b says all decisions of the nwc shall be by a simple majority.did a simple majority side with the chairman? How many members sided with him?
Finally,article 13.1 says the national convention is the highest organ,the highest authority in the party and its decision is final and can only be voided by a court.the national convention of the party voted tinubu.therefore,tinubu is the choice of the party....I think the matter is settled

There can be dissenting voice of course. But the final decision belongs to the leaders of the party.
Go and read your Constitution very well. The NEC is the highest policy and decision making organ of the party. The convention only gathers for purposes of elections and not on decision making.
There NEC and NWC leaders decided for the party.
Every other thing is a coup

System202:


shut Up, Did he lie, are their no More Cristian Governors on nigeria, are south west Muslims talking? counter him with fact u can't, either u like it or not Cristians in Nigeria will be totally relegated, just like u have been doing to Muslims, enough is enough, Kaduna as a shari'a state can never have a Cristian Deputy again takless of a Governor, and Muslim Muslim Ticket is a Must for Presidential Candidates who wants to Snell Aso Rock

Another lunatic in the making. Extremism ll kill ur generation.

ZKOSOSO:
Elrufai and his cousins are bent on frustrating Christians in Kaduna

Imagine Kaduna with about 50% Christians population o......

Stop Fooling Urself Bro, Kaduna 50% Christian Who D Hck Told You Gat,

Ojuntana:

There can be dissenting voice of course. But the final decision belongs to the leaders of the party.
Go and read your Constitution very well. The NEC is the highest policy and decision making organ of the party. The convention only gathers for purposes of elections and not on decision making.
There NEC and NWC leaders decided for the party.
Every other thing is a coup

ATIONAL WORKING COMMITTEE
i. The National Working Committee shall meet at least once every month
at the request of the National Chairman.
ii. Without prejudice to the provision of Article 25(C)(i) the meeting of the
National Working Committee may be summoned on a request made in
writing by two-thirds of the Members of the National Working
Committee at any time, provided that at least seven (7) days notice of
the meeting shall be given to all those entitled to attend.
iii. Decisions at the meetings of the National Working Committee shall be
by simple majority of Members present and voting



Read above and learn and stop talking rubbish with confidence

oyeb15:



Don't waste your vote on Obi. Vote Atiku .Only a fool will imagine Obi becoming Nigeria President

We are ready to imagine the unimaginable.

famouscargo4u:
El Rufai having tried it on his own, now he wants to bequeath same. In no time, it will become a norm thereby cancelling the interest of millions of Christians in Kaduna. No wonder violence and attacks only occur in Christian dominated areas.

Be Sincere To Urself & Keep Quite If U Don't Knw Sh*t

garfield1:


ATIONAL WORKING COMMITTEE
i. The National Working Committee shall meet at least once every month
at the request of the National Chairman.
ii. Without prejudice to the provision of Article 25(C)(i) the meeting of the
National Working Committee may be summoned on a request made in
writing by two-thirds of the Members of the National Working
Committee at any time, provided that at least seven (7) days notice of
the meeting shall be given to all those entitled to attend.
iii. Decisions at the meetings of the National Working Committee shall be
by simple majority of Members present and voting



Read above and learn and stop talking rubbish with confidence

Where there is a tie, the chairman breaks the tie. So he holds the aces

Ojuntana:

Where there is a tie, the chairman breaks the tie. So he holds the aces

Was there a tie? Was it put to voting? Who supported him? Stop clutching to imaginary straws,you have lost out just like frail adamu

garfield1:


Was there a tie? Was it put to voting? Who supported him? Stop clutching to imaginary straws,you have lost out just like frail adamu

There was no voting because some renegade members disrupted the meeting and executed the coup.
In the absence of that voting, the NEC has to ratify the decision. Since the NWC has been given the powers of NEC, Adamu as the leader of NWC's decision stands. The coup truncated the party machinery

Ojuntana:

There was no voting because some renegade members disrupted the meeting and executed the coup.
In the absence of that voting, the NEC has to ratify the decision. Since the NWC has been given the powers of NEC, Adamu as the leader of NWC's decision stands. The coup truncated the party machinery

NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
i. The National Executive Committee shall meet every quarter and or at
any time decided by the National Chairman or at the request made in
writing by at least two-third of the members of the National Executive
Committee provided that not less than fourteen (14) days notice is
given for the meeting to be summoned.
ii. Without prejudice to Article 25(B)(i) of this Constitution the National
Working Committee may summon an emergency National Executive
Committee meeting at any time, provided that at least seven (7) days
notice of the meeting shall be given to all those entitled to attend.
iii. Decisions at the meeting of the National Executive Committee shall be
by simple majority of members present and voting.
iv. The quorum for the meetings of the National Executive Committee shall
be one third of its membership.
v. The provision regulating meetings of the National Executive Committee
shall apply mutatis mutandis to Zonal Committee, State Executive
Committee, Senatorial District Executive Committee, Local Government
Area/Area Council Executive Committee and Ward Executive



You can see the bolded.there must be voting be it nwc or NEC and in the absence of any voting,nothing is in ground.by the way,no body truncated the meeting son.another loss

garfield1:



NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
i. The National Executive Committee shall meet every quarter and or at
any time decided by the National Chairman or at the request made in
writing by at least two-third of the members of the National Executive
Committee provided that not less than fourteen (14) days notice is
given for the meeting to be summoned.
ii. Without prejudice to Article 25(B)(i) of this Constitution the National
Working Committee may summon an emergency National Executive
Committee meeting at any time, provided that at least seven (7) days
notice of the meeting shall be given to all those entitled to attend.
iii. Decisions at the meeting of the National Executive Committee shall be
by simple majority of members present and voting.
iv. The quorum for the meetings of the National Executive Committee shall
be one third of its membership.
v. The provision regulating meetings of the National Executive Committee
shall apply mutatis mutandis to Zonal Committee, State Executive
Committee, Senatorial District Executive Committee, Local Government
Area/Area Council Executive Committee and Ward Executive



You can see the bolded.there must be voting be it nwc or NEC and in the absence of any voting,nothing is in ground.by the way,no body truncated the meeting son.another loss

Seems you have not been following your party very well. When Buhari nominated Buni, who voted and what was that voting result? Was it not in a NEC meeting? When Buni's tenure was extended, was there any voting for that as well? Even NEC ceding its powers to nwc did not come by voting. It was all through following the leader.
Except you mean everything done by Buni is illegal

Ojuntana:


Seems you have not been following your party very well. When Buhari nominated Buni, who voted and what was that voting result? Was it not in a NEC meeting? When Buni's tenure was extended, was there any voting for that as well? Even NEC ceding its powers to nwc did not come by voting. It was all through following the leader.
Except you mean everything done by Buni is illegal

Yes,technically buni regime was illegal,we even debated on that once.in the case of adamu,the right process was followed.according to the apc constitution,lawan never happened

modsfucker:


What difference does that make? He did it in 2019 and it's about to be repeated in 2023, if you have the numbers, stop it.

They difference there is, he waited till he got the power when he got it, he rigged himself the second with the Muslim - Muslim ticket but this time around, he won't succeed.

garfield1:


Yes,technically buni regime was illegal,we even debated on that once.in the case of adamu,the right process was followed.according to the apc constitution,lawan never happened

If Buni's regime is illegal, then Adamu is also an illegal chairman. By extension, Tinubu is an illegal candidate!!