Studymore123:


Sir, don't take what I said too personal. You should be happy for what you're achieving. I don't compare my life with others, because everyone will decide what they want in life, I only gave my 20 kobo. One thing I know is that anything can happen anytime because this life nor balance. Send me your contact make you create connect.

Are you married with kids?

Coquinoqui:


Are you married with kids?

No sir

Studymore123:


No sir

That sums it up.

Coquinoqui:


That sums it up.

Studymore123:


Live life oh. There's more to life than working crazy. The amount you make is too small to be having such savings. You make 1k and save about 250 weekly. What's even the essence of struggling to save? Go to concerts, go on a cruise, engage in fun activities. Advise the Ghanaian babe not to work like craze. depending on what she does there can be health implications later in life. When I was crazy about money I easily made 4k weekly but now I'm on a different mission in life.

If saving the equivalent of 30CAD each day in Nigeria was as easy as these guys make it sound, most diaspora Nigerians would’ve never left.
Nigerian immigrants living in Canada send over $400 million usd in remittances to Nigeria each year. The Canadian Census counted 51,800 Nigerians living in Canada. How are Nigerian immigrants sending over $400 million back to Nigeria yearly if they are all poor, making it impossible to save 30CAD a day like op is claiming? Should they all keep their money in Canada so they can brag about having large savings?
A moniker in this thread said that remittances aren’t important to Nigeria so the guy is saying that if the Nigerians in Canada stop sending over $400 million usd a year to Nigeria, Nigerians here in America stopped sending over $6 billion usd a year to Nigeria, and the remainder of the Nigerian diaspora also cut off remissions, Nigeria will be just fine. Over $22 billion usd a year is small money?

If Nigerian immigrants in Canada become obsessed with saving money for brag like some of these guys back in Nigeria and become stingy as they are called by those back home, more than a few would suffer.

https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/pdf/the-economic-power-of-nigerias-diaspora.pdf

Promises40:
Three jobs in Nigeria and there are still over 40% unemployment rate in Naija? Na who give u phone sef��

in Nigeria if you don't have a job it is your fault. We look much into office job. People are gainfully employed doing handwork. Learn something and be productive. Thanks

Promises40:
Lol � u are really funny which Nigerians can easily save millions, the ones earning below ₦30,000 minimum wage? I hate it when people come online to down play the sufferings of Nigerians, more than 70% of Nigerians earns below ₦100,000 per month, so tell how is it easy to save millions in Nigeria

any Nigeria earning 30,000 is lazy and choose to remain in that state. Conductors following yellow buses make 6,000 daily. Please note conductors not even the drivers

internationalman:


One thing you fail to grok is that what you call slaving over there is a luxury living over here and a lot of Nigerians would prefer to be slaves over there than a king here.

Why must you compare people doing menial jobs abroad with high income earners or businessmen here. Does that not tell you the difference in standard of living. Most of The white people paying and turning Yahoo boys to millionaire here are not rich there. What does that tell you..

To Nigerians good living conditions don't matter as long as they're making money. All they know in this country is money money money money. It's no wonder yahoo, kidnapping and ritualism is rampart. You would think we are the richest people in earth

how can sharing a room with a mate be luxury? Yahoo, kidnapping and rituals is in all.society. we just love blowing our trumpet more. Let's start sharing the positive side of Nigeria

1stGenAmerican:
If saving the equivalent of 30CAD each day in Nigeria was as easy as these guys make it sound, most diaspora Nigerians would’ve never left.
Nigerian immigrants living in Canada send over $400 million usd in remittances to Nigeria each year. The Canadian Census counted 51,800 Nigerians living in Canada. How are Nigerian immigrants sending over $400 million back to Nigeria yearly if they are all poor, making it impossible to save 30CAD a day like op is claiming? Should they all keep their money in Canada so they can brag about having large savings?
A moniker in this thread said that remittances aren’t important to Nigeria so the guy is saying that if the Nigerians in Canada stop sending over $400 million usd a year to Nigeria, Nigerians here in America stopped sending over $6 billion usd a year to Nigeria, and the remainder of the Nigerian diaspora also cut off remissions, Nigeria will be just fine. Over $22 billion usd a year is small money?

If Nigerian immigrants in Canada become obsessed with saving money for brag like some of these guys back in Nigeria and become stingy as they are called by those back home, more than a few would suffer.

https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/pdf/the-economic-power-of-nigerias-diaspora.pdf

Many left with no knowledge of the system they are migrating to. American media portray America in a positive light. When will Nigerians start selling the positive part of Nigeria to the world? Thanks

naijaboy99:
how can sharing a room with a mate be luxury? Yahoo, kidnapping and rituals is in all.society. we just love blowing our trumpet more. Let's start sharing the positive side of Nigeria

My guy if you like be a millionaire in useless naira for all I care, you life standard and development in human index can never measure up to those abroad.

Stop confusing existing with living

naijaboy99:
any Nigeria earning 30,000 is lazy and choose to remain in that state. Conductors following yellow buses make 6,000 daily. Please not conductors not even the drivers

You are in support of people doubling their hustle here by doing conductor job here but you'd turn around and say people doing the same over there are slaving away their life...

Na jealousy dey worry you

naijaboy99:
Many left with no knowledge of the system they are migrating to. American media portray America in a positive light. When will Nigerians start selling the positive part of Nigeria to the world? Thanks

Is not about positive light brother once you know what you want.
If money is taking from you(tax) to provide basic amenities and a job is always available(high probability) for you to make that money so it can be taken from you(tax) to give you a better life then why do you want to save heavily at your own detriment? The guy who saves more than you in Nigeria will use that savings to pay for healthcare, expensive groceries, mechanic visits, high school fees, estate security levy(insecurity), fuel for generator, new Lawma fee etc....Then he will save to own a home by most likely paying in full.
But when he travels to a country where he has better education, we an exceptional kid can get scholarships, grants etc..where he has security, good healthcare, good roads, access to mortgage, less visit to the mechanic, steady electricity, respect for human life, more job opportunities and all that comes with a "working" society, he wants to enjoy all this and still keep his money(no tax).
They even take money from you(tax) and return when you have absolutely nothing(welfare/unemployed)..
Your talent is more likely to be wasted here.
You that started this thread might have been good tennis player, guitarist, gymnast etc. and that would have been all he needs in a working society to be established. In naija talent is left to rot....
If I and all my relatives can relocate to a working society where they can all work and earn to take care of themselves as long as they are healthy, then what business do I even have sending money to Naija...No be everybody want become billionare.....
So for me, emphasis is not about what you save but value you received from what you spent.

Coquinoqui:


Lolz im not an American, im a Nigerian who came here to hustle like every other immigrants, we work twice as more than average Americans. That stats does not apply to me, I speak for myself. You believe in stats but im here living the reality.

which state do you live

Ebubu:
which state do you live

NY

ednut1:
i cannot have a conversation with some like you. Those who know me in real life from here know the truth. So mr man keep fooling yourself. i wont post my payslip for you to see as its childish, so bye and enjoy you Nigeria in peace. For those earning lesser they are still happy than they were in Nigeria. Money is not everything in life ,

My brother money is everything in my life keep quiet

naijaboy99:
Good afternoon folks! The purpose of writing this trend is not to discourage Nigerians from traveling but to reveal some interesting facts that might shock Nigerians in regards to staying back in Nigeria. The Nigerian dream is not dead like most of us would think or argue. Opportunities abound here like in every society. Financial success is what most folks dream of both in Nigeria and western societies.

I am using Canada and America as a case study because that is where most Nigerians love to migrate to. It will surprise most folks reading this trend that 85% of Nigerian immigrants living in those countries are unable to save $30 daily. What is more surprising is that $30 in the US. when converted to the naira is between ₦ 12,900 (official bank rate) or ₦20,850 (Black market rate) then for Canada ₦9,540 (Bank rate) or ₦14,2200 (Black market rate)

I have noticed majority of Nairalanders are either job seekers or those with jobs earning between ₦50,000 to ₦200,000 monthly. To them the amount I quoted is very high and enough reason to Japa (the current trend) but for those who have hand work or into businesses, it will come as a shock to many of them.. A bolt driver, if we have any one here can help us confirm, is capable to making ₦15,000 daily after all expenses when you drive with your own car. Most 10 passenger yellow buses drivers make over ₦20,000 daily. The average daily profit for an average booming business in Nigeria currently is over ₦35,000 daily. Please note the word average. I know we can all agree that people who sell plumbing materials, cement, electrical gadgets, furniture, rods, chemist stores, truck drivers, woods, pipes, flour, bag of rice etc can easily make over ₦20,000 in profit daily.

I will say again that the purpose of this post is not to discourage anyone or look down on people living abroad, but to open our eyes to the fact that Nigeria is not bad as we might think. The problem is that most Nigerians don't believe in this country. No matter how much they make they always feel there is somewhere else better till they get there and find out the real truth.

Nigerians in diaspora can join the conversation and let us know if it is possible to make the amount stated ($30daily). Then Nigerians down here who are engaged in the kind of work I listed can also come and tell us their experience. God bless Nigeria and her citizens!

There is a lot of problems with your points. Before stating them, let me tell you a story.
You see, there was once a boy in Nigeria who loved to program. That’s all he wanted to do. He started doing this a little early and was trying every step of the way to be better. On the other side, he was trying to get admission into university, but couldn’t make the JAMB cut-off for some of his desired institutions. This was turning out to be a problem for him, as his parents continued to pile pressure on the young boy. He kept failing JAMB and was nearly at the point of giving up. Soon, he started tell his parents that he wanted to leave the country to try education options abroad. Since his parents did not have a lot of money, this was turning out nearly impossible. After several trials and basically using a rogue agent that managed to work things out for him using a jumble of documents here and there, he managed to get a visit visa to the US. The boy took off and started hustling in the US. His visa expired, but he continued staying on illegally until someone he managed to regularize his stay after several years. Remember, he still hadn’t gone to school. But fortunately for him, he kept on with his programming efforts and after a while managed to secure his first programming job in the US after several years of working in restaurants. Nobody asked for university qualification from him. He could do the job and so they gave it to him. He started working his heart out, coding everyday and became even better. His programming skills improved a lot because he was working in a fast-paced company. Today, this boy is working with Google and earning a fat cat salary. Please note that this boy still hasn’t gone to school even today.
Why do I know this story? It’s simple. The boy is my brother.
I ask myself everyday if he would have been able to achieve this if he had stayed back in Nigeria. And the answer is a very big NO. First, they would have asked for his education, which he didn’t have. And he was already at a point of complete demoralization in NIgeria from failing JAMB that I don’t think he would have survived one more year.
Why am I telling this story? Because in all this analysis that you put up there, you are removing the critical component of available opportunities. Even if it is possible to make this money you are quoting in Nigeria (which I don’t even think it is, and that’s why I’m not arguing from that perspective), I want you to tell me how many such opportunities truly exist. Or in fact how many people will get those opportunities. You are talking about a country where nobody even gets that dollar at the official rate you have quoted. Somebody who has absolutely nothing is likely to continue to have absolutely nothing. If no one has somebody to buy a car for them to do Uber, where do you thnk they will find the money? They are more likely to go and steal to get the money that they are to go to a bank. Which bank will even give it to them?
If you go to America today and you want to become a truck driver, it is TOTALLY UP TO YOU to do it. The resources will be presented to you and if you don’t do it, it’s your decision. You are hardly hampered by any societal construct that makes it impossible for you. You are literally walk into any bank (if you are legally staying) and get the resources you need to start out. You can take a loan and go to driving school and then figure your life out from there.
I can’t emphasize even more how important this is. Forget all these naira you are quoting. It is meaningless when there is no opportunity. Absolutely meaningless. If you are looking for a reason why many people are corrupt in Nigeria (of which many are), this is your reason. The absolute lack of opportunity. It pushes people into becoming the monsters they have become.
I rest my case here.

naijaboy99:
Many left with no knowledge of the system they are migrating to. American media portray America in a positive light. When will Nigerians start selling the positive part of Nigeria to the world? Thanks

As soon as positive things are cultivated.

internationalman:


You are in support of people doubling their hustle here by doing conductor job here but you'd turn around and say people doing the same over there are slaving away their life...

Na jealousy dey worry you

how is jealousy worrying me when nobody wants to do conductor here but will happily do it over there. Out of shame they won't do it. Conductors make over 100k monthly but you see most Nigerians here talking about 30k minimum wage

naijaboy99:
how you jealousy worrying me when nobody wants to do conductor here but will happily do it over there. Out of shame they won't do it. Conductors make over 100k monthly but you see most Nigerians here talking about 30k minimum wage

I’m neutral here but I’m curious and I’d like to know if the conductors in Nigeria receive benefits such as health, retirement, and vacation days? Are the conductors guaranteed to be paid salaries on time without any delay? If they are injured on the job, will their medical bills and salary still be paid? Are conductors in Nigeria represented by a Union? Are they protected by law against occupational and safety hazards?

1stGenAmerican:


I’m neutral here but I’m curious and I’d like to know if the conductors in Nigeria receive benefits such as health, retirement, and vacation days? Are the conductors guaranteed to be paid salaries on time without any delay? If they are injured on the job, will their medical bills and salary still be paid? Are conductors in Nigeria members of a Union that represents them?

Africans hardly fall sick unlike whites. And also spending money on vacation is not the African thing. More enjoyable going to the village for Xmas

CountVersailles:


There is a lot of problems with your points. Before stating them, let me tell you a story.
You see, there was once a boy in Nigeria who loved to program. That’s all he wanted to do. He started doing this a little early and was trying every step of the way to be better. On the other side, he was trying to get admission into university, but couldn’t make the JAMB cut-off for some of his desired institutions. This was turning out to be a problem for him, as his parents continued to pile pressure on the young boy. He kept failing JAMB and was nearly at the point of giving up. Soon, he started tell his parents that he wanted to leave the country to try education options abroad. Since his parents did not have a lot of money, this was turning out nearly impossible. After several trials and basically using a rogue agent that managed to work things out for him using a jumble of documents here and there, he managed to get a visit visa to the US. The boy took off and started hustling in the US. His visa expired, but he continued staying on illegally until someone he managed to regularize his stay after several years. Remember, he still hadn’t gone to school. But fortunately for him, he kept on with his programming efforts and after a while managed to secure his first programming job in the US after several years of working in restaurants. Nobody asked for university qualification from him. He could do the job and so they gave it to him. He started working his heart out, coding everyday and became even better. His programming skills improved a lot because he was working in a fast-paced company. Today, this boy is working with Google and earning a fat cat salary. Please note that this boy still hasn’t gone to school even today.
Why do I know this story? It’s simple. The boy is my brother.
I ask myself everyday if he would have been able to achieve this if he had stayed back in Nigeria. And the answer is a very big NO. First, they would have asked for his education, which he didn’t have. And he was already at a point of complete demoralization in NIgeria from failing JAMB that I don’t think he would have survived one more year.
Why am I telling this story? Because in all this analysis that you put up there, you are removing the critical component of available opportunities. Even if it is possible to make this money you are quoting in Nigeria (which I don’t even think it is, and that’s why I’m not arguing from that perspective), I want you to tell me how many such opportunities truly exist. Or in fact how many people will get those opportunities. You are talking about a country where nobody even gets that dollar at the official rate you have quoted. Somebody who has absolutely nothing is likely to continue to have absolutely nothing. If no one has somebody to buy a car for them to do Uber, where do you thnk they will find the money? They are more likely to go and steal to get the money that they are to go to a bank. Which bank will even give it to them?
If you go to America today and you want to become a truck driver, it is TOTALLY UP TO YOU to do it. The resources will be presented to you and if you don’t do it, it’s your decision. You are hardly hampered by any societal construct that makes it impossible for you. You are literally walk into any bank (if you are legally staying) and get the resources you need to start out. You can take a loan and go to driving school and then figure your life out from there.
I can’t emphasize even more how important this is. Forget all these naira you are quoting. It is meaningless when there is no opportunity. Absolutely meaningless. If you are looking for a reason why many people are corrupt in Nigeria (of which many are), this is your reason. The absolute lack of opportunity. It pushes people into becoming the monsters they have become.
I rest my case here.

This is both excellent and true.

naijaboy99:
Africans hardly fall sick unlike whites. And also spending money on vacation is not the African thing. More enjoyable going to the village for Xmas

Just because a person doesn’t ‘fall sick’ doesn’t mean that they don’t have an illness. The life expectancy of Nigerians cancels out your assertions that Africans don’t get sick. If a Nigerian conductor falls ill, does his job provide the means and the time off for him to receive medical treatment? If he is injured on the job, is his medical treatment, salary, and compensation to cover his injury paid? If his spouse becomes pregnant, are his spouse and unborn child’s medical expenses covered?
I didn’t mention anything about spending money on vacation, I asked about paid vacation days. Do they receive paid days off for rest/relaxation and paid days off when they are sick.
Are conductors in Nigeria guaranteed to be paid for every hour they’ve worked at the end of each week or every two weeks without any delays or excuses?
Are conductors in Nigeria able to be sacked without just cause? Are conductors in Nigeria protected against nepotism by the government?

Me, I actually think the better question is, are conductors making #100,000 a month?

1stGenAmerican:


Just because a person doesn’t ‘fall sick’ doesn’t mean that they don’t have an illness. The life expectancy of Nigerians cancels out your assertions that Africans don’t get sick. If a Nigerian conductor falls ill, does his job provide the means and the time off for him to receive medical treatment? If he is injured on the job, is his medical treatment, salary, and compensation to cover his injury paid? If his spouse becomes pregnant, are his spouse and unborn child’s medical expenses covered?
I didn’t mention anything about spending money on vacation, I asked about paid vacation days. Do they receive paid days off for rest/relaxation and paid days off when they are sick.
Are conductors in Nigeria guaranteed to be paid for every hour they’ve worked at the end of each week or every two weeks without any delays or excuses?
Are conductors in Nigeria able to be sacked without just cause? Are conductors in Nigeria protected against nepotism by the government?

lanresz:
Me, I actually think the better question is, are conductors making #100,000 a month?

According to other Nigerians, they aren’t but op insists that they are however he hasn’t provided anything to back his word up.
In Canada, they earn between $15-$35 per hour and a benefits package. They’re covered by Government Occupational and Safety Hazard Regulations among other things and the Canadian government guarantees that they’ll be paid on time each pay period.
https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/wages-occupation/23334/ON

Based on where I have lived in Canada, I have not seen bus conductors. $15 per hour, the minimum wage in many provinces, sounds too low for a train conductor. I was expecting starting wage to be close to $30 per hour but I may be very wrong.

1stGenAmerican:


According to other Nigerians, they aren’t but op insists that they are however he hasn’t provided anything to back his word up.
In Canada, they earn between $15-$35 per hour and a benefits package. They’re covered by Government Occupational and Safety Hazard Regulations among other things and the Canadian government guarantees that they’ll be paid on time each pay period.

CountVersailles:


There is a lot of problems with your points. Before stating them, let me tell you a story.
You see, there was once a boy in Nigeria who loved to program. That’s all he wanted to do. He started doing this a little early and was trying every step of the way to be better. On the other side, he was trying to get admission into university, but couldn’t make the JAMB cut-off for some of his desired institutions. This was turning out to be a problem for him, as his parents continued to pile pressure on the young boy. He kept failing JAMB and was nearly at the point of giving up. Soon, he started tell his parents that he wanted to leave the country to try education options abroad. Since his parents did not have a lot of money, this was turning out nearly impossible. After several trials and basically using a rogue agent that managed to work things out for him using a jumble of documents here and there, he managed to get a visit visa to the US. The boy took off and started hustling in the US. His visa expired, but he continued staying on illegally until someone he managed to regularize his stay after several years. Remember, he still hadn’t gone to school. But fortunately for him, he kept on with his programming efforts and after a while managed to secure his first programming job in the US after several years of working in restaurants. Nobody asked for university qualification from him. He could do the job and so they gave it to him. He started working his heart out, coding everyday and became even better. His programming skills improved a lot because he was working in a fast-paced company. Today, this boy is working with Google and earning a fat cat salary. Please note that this boy still hasn’t gone to school even today.
Why do I know this story? It’s simple. The boy is my brother.
I ask myself everyday if he would have been able to achieve this if he had stayed back in Nigeria. And the answer is a very big NO. First, they would have asked for his education, which he didn’t have. And he was already at a point of complete demoralization in NIgeria from failing JAMB that I don’t think he would have survived one more year.
Why am I telling this story? Because in all this analysis that you put up there, you are removing the critical component of available opportunities. Even if it is possible to make this money you are quoting in Nigeria (which I don’t even think it is, and that’s why I’m not arguing from that perspective), I want you to tell me how many such opportunities truly exist. Or in fact how many people will get those opportunities. You are talking about a country where nobody even gets that dollar at the official rate you have quoted. Somebody who has absolutely nothing is likely to continue to have absolutely nothing. If no one has somebody to buy a car for them to do Uber, where do you thnk they will find the money? They are more likely to go and steal to get the money that they are to go to a bank. Which bank will even give it to them?
If you go to America today and you want to become a truck driver, it is TOTALLY UP TO YOU to do it. The resources will be presented to you and if you don’t do it, it’s your decision. You are hardly hampered by any societal construct that makes it impossible for you. You are literally walk into any bank (if you are legally staying) and get the resources you need to start out. You can take a loan and go to driving school and then figure your life out from there.
I can’t emphasize even more how important this is. Forget all these naira you are quoting. It is meaningless when there is no opportunity. Absolutely meaningless. If you are looking for a reason why many people are corrupt in Nigeria (of which many are), this is your reason. The absolute lack of opportunity. It pushes people into becoming the monsters they have become.
I rest my case here.

I may not agree with you on many things, but the points you raised in this write-up, I certainly can't fault. Cheers

lanresz:
Based on where I have lived in Canada, I have not seen bus conductors. $15 per hour, the minimum wage in many provinces, sounds too low for a train conductor. I was expecting starting wage to be close to $30 per hour but I may be very wrong.

I’m sure you’re right. $15-$35 is the starting range but I imagine that with any experience or good work history, starting salary is closer to the $30 range you noted. I added a link to the job bank that’ll probably provide accurate info.
Aside from the safety practices, the conductors seem to have an easy job and can go home at the end of the day as clean as they arrived. Am I right?

1stGenAmerican:


According to other Nigerians, they aren’t but op insists that they are however he hasn’t provided anything to back his word up.
In Canada, they earn between $15-$35 per hour and a benefits package. They’re covered by Government Occupational and Safety Hazard Regulations among other things and the Canadian government guarantees that they’ll be paid on time each pay period.
https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/wages-occupation/23334/ON

some certainly do make up to that amount, majority of them just don't know how to manage or handle money, so they don't have a full grasp of what comes in and what it could accrue to. Transporters (drivers and conductors) actually make ok money, they just don't know how to properly handle said money.

Treadway:
some certainly do make up to that amount, majority of them just don't know how to manage or handle money, so they don't have a full grasp of what comes in and what it could accrue to. Transporters (drivers and conductors) actually make ok money, they just don't know how to properly handle said money.

Thanks for providing answers. Making money and management of money are two different thing. 100k is 3500 daily. That's small money

In that case it is very bad that they do not know how to handle said money.

Treadway:
some certainly do make up to that amount, majority of them just don't know how to manage or handle money, so they don't have a full grasp of what comes in and what it could accrue to. Transporters (drivers and conductors) actually make ok money, they just don't know how to properly handle said money.

naijaboy99:
how is jealousy worrying me when nobody wants to do conductor here but will happily do it over there. Out of shame they won't do it. Conductors make over 100k monthly but you see most Nigerians here talking about 30k minimum wage

And is it 100k a conductor equivalent job will give you in Canada?