jaephoenix:

Youre going far. What about psychotic patients that are physically restrained and on intravenous injections prescribed by the psychiatrist? Do they need to trust or abide by the doctors' regimen?
MadMax is at his finest this morning

He thinks he can use his knowledge of the Bible to understand medical science.

triplechoice:


He thinks he can use his knowledge of the Bible to understand medical science.

he doesn't even have any knowledge of the Bible, if not he won't believe the Bible.
The Bible is fraud

MaxInDHouse:


Oya tell me the BENEFITS derived from going to the Moon!

So many benefits. You can Google it if your child attending school can't list them for you.

They should have been taught that in school already.

jaephoenix:

… and his sidekick arrives just in time

We against the world
Premium churchgoers, every other religion, atheists, agnostics and the rest
Max is my brother as I always said. My beloved brother.
Also Janosky and Cornelboy

Well, mention yours. Here in this forum, you have none and you have several.
None that has unity of mind and hope as you. Do you even have hope? What is the basis of your hope?
You have several cos your alliance is to attack one unique group

Aemmyjah:


We against the world
Premium churchgoers, every other religion, atheists, agnostics and the rest
Max is my brother as I always said. My beloved brother.
Also Janosky and Cornelboy

Well, mention yours. Here in this forum, you have none and you have several.
None that has unity of mind and hope as you. Do you even have hope? What is the basis of your hope?
You have several cos your alliance is to attack one unique group

In one sentence, you noted that I have no alliance and also i have several.
By the way, you just listed 75% of all the Nairaland fruitcakes up there. I'm sure MadMax is the leader of the Nairaland branch of JW, right

MaxInDHouse:


Oya tell me the BENEFITS derived from going to the Moon!

They may come back with sand or stone to use to do something good and bad here and make noise how there is no God because they have gone to the moon.

But I know their present plan is that they think they can escape from God if they run away from the earth. Funny people.

jaephoenix:

In one sentence, you noted that I have no alliance and also i have several.
By the way, you just listed 75% of all the Nairaland fruitcakes up there. I'm sure MadMax is the leader of the Nairaland branch of JW, right

Lol
This guy keeps amazing me that he has the brain of a typical ape-man

Workch:
because there's no evidence for any spiritual need in the first place. It's waa made up

Those who are already spirituality dead cannot have any need.

Workch:
the Bible is not evidence, its a claim.
How do you get that?

You cannot convince people like me with the Bible, it's a waste of time. I probably know the Bible more than you do

If you knew what a claim and evidence is you would know that the Bible did not make a claim.but is evidence.

MaxInDHouse:


Why not go against the prescription of the physician and see if the baby gets well?

Gooaal!

Exactly people go against God and come out to start stupidly shouting there is no God!

MaxInDHouse:
When we tell you that you people were never Christians you guys will say:
"we don go church tire"
Now you know that the word BELIEVE doesn't mean credulity but TRUST in the one TEACHING you how to BENEFIT yourself.

So if you don't follow the right prescription (commandment) there's no way you can get it's benefits!

And "layance" resting on, standing on a thing.

triplechoice:

What of those who are receiving treatment while in coma ,how do they get to trust the physician they're not even aware of?

And we see that many do not come back

triplechoice:

What of babies too? How does a baby know what it means to trust

Babies already trust.

Workch:
the physician knows it will work because there is evidence that it does with or without prayers

Without prayers when you eat you get energized and without prayers when soldier slap you, you cry. No thing here.

jaephoenix:

… and if you take the prescribed meds from the physician, you'll get better whether you believe the drugs would work or not. Unless you're a hypochondriac or have Manchaussen's

Now you are blowing grammar in the cases it did not work.

jaephoenix:

What do you mean 'going against the physician'. Unless you mean underdosing or overdosing, of which either way, you'll have problems.

Or no dosing at all which means the drug did not work.

Then you would blow grammar in the case where the person gets healed without taking the drug.

jaephoenix:

Trusting the physician isn't the same as trusting the drugs
You really have lost the plot bro. Its either you catch cruise in these mindless rebuttals or you truly are a nutcase

Trusting the physician means trusting his commandments.

jaephoenix:

Youre going far. What about psychotic patients that are physically restrained and on intravenous injections prescribed by the psychiatrist? Do they need to trust or abide by the doctors' regimen?
MadMax is at his finest this morning

And we see that the doctors keep changing and changing their drugs like they are using them for experiment. Why does the first one not work eh? (Rhetoric)

Workch:
that guy is hilarious, he doesn't know that double-blinded placebo is a step towards establishing the efficacy of a drug.

The physician and the patient won't know what they are taking, the scientists won't know the outcome. Nobody will know anything and it works.

Hes a dumb guy

Or it did not work but it was a case of a person getting better even when he did not take any medicine

Dtruthspeaker:


And we see that many do not come back



Babies already trust.

What has your statement gotta do with trust? Comatose patients die because of raised intracranial pressure and not lack of trust on the physician.
Please how and where do babies trust? They are incapable of self awareness, never mind trusting

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you are blowing grammar in the cases it did not work.

Facepalm
If only you have taken a few seconds to check what those means, you'll have cured yourself some ignorance.
Those two diagnoses happen in patients that have psychiatric illnesses. They complain of symptoms they don't have. These complaints may be knowingly or unknowingly.
So in this case, they take a doc's prescribed drugs and still complain of not getting better even though they don't have the symptoms.
I really have concerns about your mental state. Are you always this bleeped up in real life?

Dtruthspeaker:


Or no dosing at all which means the drug did not work.

Then you would blow grammar in the case where the person gets healed without taking the drug.



Trusting the physician means trusting his commandments.

No dosing means you didn't take the drugs. So how are you gonna be healed if you don't take the drugs. Whether you trust the physician or not is irrelevant if you don't take the pills
Check into a mental hospital and have a mental state evaluation. You're even fruitier than MadMax

Dtruthspeaker:


And we see that the doctors keep changing and changing their drugs like they are using them for experiment. Why does the first one not work eh? (Rhetoric)

Drugs are changed for different reasons. From poor clinical response to drug reactions. I don't wanna go further, but this is beyond and irrelevant to this topic

Dtruthspeaker:


Or it did not work but it was a case of a person getting better even when he did not take any medicine

People get better even without drugs. But in this case, there is a clinical trial meaning the volunteers actually took the drug.

Dtruthspeaker:


And we see that many do not come back

Whether they come back or not is not the issue here,but if they can trust while in that condition for them to benefit from the medical attention they're receiving.

And could you please explain what made those who came back to come back ,since you and your friends believe that without trust it wouldn't be possible.

Babies already trust.

So babies have the awareness to know what treatment they're receiving?

If for instance it's vaccination , new born babies can trust in it because they're aware of what is being done by the person vaccinating them?

How many of such babies have you interviewed to determine if they have the awareness to trust in medical science?

You seem to derive some kind of pleasure from the nonsense you type and post
on Nairaland. You don't care ,since nobody can see you physically.

Do you talk like this as a lawyer that you claim to be offline?

jaephoenix:

No dosing means you didn't take the drugs. So how are you gonna be healed if you don't take the drugs.

Are you not the one who needs to enter mental hospital for you also admit and confess

jaephoenix:

People get better even without drugs. ..

triplechoice:

Whether they come back or not is not the issue here...

It is because you boast that drugs work all the time, hence showing that the drug did not work is also in the issue.

triplechoice:

So babies have the awareness to know what treatment they're receiving?

You said "trust" I proved "trust" and not awareness, so change of post!

jaephoenix:

Facepalm
If only you have taken a few seconds to check what those means, ...

Not in issue.
The issue is did the drug work or it did not.

So it is immaterial why it did not work

Dtruthspeaker:


It is because you boast that drugs work all the time, hence showing that the drug did not work is also in the issue.

Nobody here has boasted that drugs work all the time

You said "trust" I proved "trust" and not awareness, so change of post!

Where and when did you "proved trust"
Can trust exist without self awareness?

Oga ,go rest. You're clutching at straws

triplechoice:

So many benefits. You can Google it if your child attending school can't list them for you.
They should have been taught that in school already.

So in a nutshell nothing as you can't list any!

jaephoenix:

What do you mean 'going against the physician'. Unless you mean underdosing or overdosing, of which either way, you'll have problems. Trusting the physician isn't the same as trusting the drugs
You really have lost the plot bro. Its either you catch cruise in these mindless rebuttals or you truly are a nutcase

You see how low your IQ?

Why do you consult a physician in the first place?

Who prescribe the drugs?

Is it not the physician you TRUSTED (BELIEVED) with all your heart?

Ọmọ you need to think outside this box called ATHEISM because it's really blurring your senses completely!

jaephoenix:

… and if you take the prescribed meds from the physician, you'll get better whether you believe the drugs would work or not. Unless you're a hypochondriac or have Manchaussen's

The DRUG means nothing nah in the presence of the PHYSICIAN who PRESCRIBED it!

So religions means nothing in the presence of God who counsels you on how to do things!

jaephoenix:

How can you say patients need to believe in antibiotics before it works on them? Do they control the bioavailability, pharmacokinetics or pharmacodynamics? Do you need to believe the food you eat would nourish your body before it does its jobs?
Even if its placebo effects, it has its limits.
How do you manage to keep a straight face when you type these bollocks you dump on Nairaland? Next thing Aemyjah would chime in and start defending you

You don't TRUST (BELIEVE) foods just as you can't trust drugs rather the TRUST (BELIEVE) is in the one who PREPARED the food.

For instance there is water from the gutters or suck away and you know that food is cooked with water yet you eat food not because you BELIEVE (TRUST) the food but your TRUST is in the one who PREPARED it as you're sure he/she doesn't want to POISON you.

Any sane individual will know that Obi will not eat any food given to him by Tinubu no matter how appealing the food may appear, why?
Because he does not TRUST (BELIEVE) the one bringing it not the food!

triplechoice:

What of those who are receiving treatment while in coma ,how do they get to trust the physician they're not even aware of?
What of babies too? How does a baby know what it means to trust

FOOL!

Don't worry when you're in a coma your family will take you to your ex whose heart you broke for treatment. Or you can take your baby to a nurse who is your enemy!

Is this how low the IQ of atheists?
Thank God i'm not an atheist!

Please who will come and tell these fools that a baby or person in coma both have relatives who must sign for the treatment of their person?
Of course the surety must TRUST (BELIEVE) the physician on your behalf that you're in safe hands.
So whichever way you people take it BELIEVE (TRUST) must come in!