Workch:
for how uninformed they were back then

That doesn’t compute at all. No one uses “goat herder” as a metaphor for uninformed people. A metaphor such as “having cold feet” can be, and is ,used in various situations but I’ve never seen anyone use goat herder outside of slurring the Bible authors.
Any astronomical or geographical errors made by the authors are still made by people today and no one calls these people “goat herders”. Hell, you haven’t referred to Aemmyjah as “goat herder” despite him being uninformed.

Aemmyjah:


Amd you believe the designs of this universe has no designer
That something (like our universe) came from nothing

Look at the image below. What is the chance or probability that that thing (though not a living frog) could appear in a bush just like that

more and more teleological fallacy. Because it looks designed doesn't mean it was designed

KnownUnknown:


That doesn’t compute at all. No one uses “goat herder” as a metaphor for uninformed people. A metaphor such as “having cold feet” can be, and is ,used in various situations but I’ve never seen anyone use goat herder outside of slurring the Bible authors.
Any astronomical or geographical errors made by the authors are still made by people today and no one calls these people “goat herders”. Hell, you haven’t referred to Aemmyjah as “goat herder” despite him being uninformed.

What are arguing all about?

Workch:
more and more teleological fallacy. Because it looks designed doesn't mean it was designed

You're free to accept any philosophy you WANT to to support your view
It's up to you
Rock your boat

Aemmyjah:


Where did I describe the bible as a scientific guide?

Who presented the fact that the Bible explained rain and shape of Earth, and went ahead to say the Bible is ahead of scientists?

Aemmyjah:


You're free to accept any philosophy you WANT to to support your view
It's up to you
Rock your boat

learn to make logical arguments without fallacies. It's why I won't take you seriously

Workch:
learn to make logical arguments without fallacies. It's why I won't take you seriously

Nonsense
Not with someone with a very biased mind like you!
Go and follow stupid fallacies

jaephoenix:

Who presented the fact that the Bible explained rain and shape of Earth, and went ahead to say the Bible is ahead of scientists?

Show me where I said the Bible is a scientific guide or you acknowledge that this is another of your stupid lies

Aemmyjah:


Nonsense
Not with someone with a very biased mind like you!
Go and follow stupid fallacies

what's bias?
Have you provided any evidence that is not fallacious?

Workch:
what's bias?
Have you provided any evidence that is not fallacious?

Baby boy, you have right to accept what you WANT to believe right? Accept your claim

When you go to a beach and see a bench. You know someone put it there. That bench is the effect of what cause? That someone kept it there. I'm not sure if there is any fallacy that can overrule that claim so that you may believe the bench just appeared by itself

Aemmyjah:


Baby boy, you have right to accept what you WANT to believe right? Accept your claim

When you go to a beach and see a bench. You know someone put it there. That bench is the effect of what cause? That someone kept it there. I'm not sure if there is any fallacy that can overrule that claim so that you may believe the bench just appeared by itself

Why are you still committing the fallacy

Workch:
Why are you still committing the fallacy

Theists have no idea what fallacies are. Isn't that their bane?

jaephoenix:

Theists have no idea what fallacies are. Isn't that their bane?

FALLACY!

fallacy (plural fallacies)

Deceptive or false appearance; that which misleads the eye or the mind.
Synonyms: deception, deceitfulness


An argument, or apparent argument, which professes to be decisive of the matter at issue, while in reality it is not. A specious argument. ~ Oxford Dictionary

ATHEISTS claims they're free from deception in religion but they're cooking up FALLACIES in the name of EVOLUTION just to replace what religion thought them. Instead of investigating further to know the difference between false and true religion they want to write off all religions but by the end of the day they produced sadists who will become famous and commit suicide after removing GOD totally in his/her brain!

Dtruthspeaker:


My enemy, you changed post after I gave you your words which is proof you have nothing to say. Your attempt to reargue is just a waste of your time.

You're your own enemy because you lie to yourself all the time.

None of my words is proof of what you're imagining. It's your own jaundiced interpretation which no one else has accepted.

I think wasted my time dragging that with you. I should have known that you can't comprehend simple statements made by anyone.

Both of them are bag of shit. Their mother is spirituality for man is not commanded to be religious or trust in science but to be spiritual, righteous and fear his creator. For in doing so he acquires the knowledge and wisdom to create things you claim science does. Man was to be a co-creator on earth and spirituality helps him activate that power within. Everytn created by man today were once his thougts b4 they became what you see today. So the credit doesnt go to science but the creator of man and the force within him that gives him that knowledge. Also those you call science could be christians, muslims, traditionalists etc so the credits goes to the creator of man and the force in him. Also their are positive and negative spirituality. Those who creates things that pleases the creator and those who do otherwise. The later is controled by the god of the world. So all athiests who dont believe in the creator of all things worship the god of the world or science

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ there's nothing the earth lack if nobody travel to the moon.
So back to the OP drugs can't work without the user's belief in the physician's prescriptions!

It's obvious you don't even understand anything in the op.

It's not about relying on those who practice medicine, Doctors, but on the effectiveness of their practice itself.

You're conflating the two as one in order to confuse people.

Your belief or trust in any doctor ,who is attending to you, is not what's going to make the drugs they prescribe work for you. Even a child in primary school should know this, but you, with your age and experience says no?

If drugs can't work, as you have declared, without the user's belief in the physician, what then makes it to work for those who do self medication without any doctor's prescription?

Babies don't need to trust in physicians before vaccines can work for them, and that's if they even understand what is being given to them at that moment of their lifes

bobestman:
Both of them are bag of shit. Their mother is spirituality for man is not commanded to be religious or trust in science but to be spiritual, righteous and fear his creator. For in doing so he acquires the knowledge and wisdom to create things you claim science does. Man was to be a co-creator on earth and spirituality helps him activate that power within. Everytn created by man today were once his thougts b4 they became what you see today. So the credit doesnt go to science but the creator of man and the force within him that gives him that knowledge. Also those you call science could be christians, muslims, traditionalists etc so the credits goes to the creator of man and the force in him. Also their are positive and negative spirituality. Those who creates things that pleases the creator and those who do otherwise. The later is controled by the god of the world. So all athiests who dont believe in the creator of all things worship the god of the world or science

What utter bullshit
So who's the 'Creator?

triplechoice:

Your belief or trust in any doctor ,who is attending to you, is not what's going to make the drugs they prescribe work for you.

The same way blind belief will not make sound counsel work for you, you must PRACTICALLY apply divine counsel before you can get it's benefits.
That's where BELIEVE (TRUST) in God comes in because He knows better than you do just as the physician knows better than you regarding the drug prescribed.

Thank you!

MaxInDHouse:


The same way blind belief will not make sound counsel work for you, you must PRACTICALLY apply divine counsel before you can get it's benefits.
That's where BELIEVE (TRUST) in God comes in because He knows better than you do just as the physician knows better than you regarding the drug prescribed.

Thank you!

You have gone on another track.
With medications ,once it gets into your system, your body reacts to effect a cure without you doing anything of your own,. Your body chemistry reacts. That's all.

People who are unconscious are sometimes given injections which works, without them aware of what they have received during that period.

Why is it difficult for you understand something as simple as this.

You're trying to use your religious beliefs to interpret medical science, and that's where the problem lies for you.

triplechoice:


You have gone on another track.
With medications ,once it gets into your system, your body reacts to effect a cure without you doing anything of your own,. Your body chemistry reacts. That's all.

People who are unconscious are sometimes given injections which works, without them aware of what they have received during that period.

Why is it difficult for you understand something as simple as this.

You're trying to use your religious beliefs to interpret medical science, and that's where the problem lies for you.

For sake of your sanity, leave MadMax alone. What he's doing is a form of gaslighting. Nigga is catching cruise, he's not doing any religious interpretation. I have figured him out and I'm avoided him. But if you receive some certain joy in banging your head against a rock, please continue with him

jaephoenix:

For sake of your sanity, leave MadMax alone. What he's doing is a form of gaslighting. Nigga is catching cruise, he's not doing any religious interpretation. I have figured him out and I'm avoided him. But if you receive some certain joy in banging your head against a rock, please continue with him

My replies are not meant for him alone. They're so many others here who think and believe like him.

Offline I have them around me. When you try to explain to them what causes medicine to work, they would reject it with "forget it, without God medicine can't work"

I'm sure you're familiar with the statement, "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals"
If you visit any hospital owned by a church, that's the notice that welcomes people.

triplechoice:


You're your own enemy because you lie to yourself all the time.

None of my words is proof of what you're imagining. It's your own jaundiced interpretation which no one else has accepted.

I think wasted my time dragging that with you. I should have known that you can't comprehend simple statements made by anyone.

I told you, you wasted your time. Your words are clearly permanently stamped here and nothing you say can change it.

And your insulting me only proves it.

triplechoice:

You have gone on another track.
With medications ,once it gets into your system, your body reacts to effect a cure without you doing anything of your own,. Your body chemistry reacts. That's all.
People who are unconscious are sometimes given injections which works, without them aware of what they have received during that period.
Why is it difficult for you understand something as simple as this.
You're trying to use your religious beliefs to interpret medical science, and that's where the problem lies for you.

You only need to calm down so as to get the sense of what i'm saying.

The drug works in your system but you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician otherwise you either refuse to take in the drug or misuse it, either way you can't get the benefits!

MaxInDHouse:


You only need to calm down so as to get the sense of what i'm saying.

The drug works in your system but you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician otherwise you either refuse to take in the drug or misuse it, either way you can't get the benefits!

For the last time, who is the physician for person who self medicate?

Modified. I noticed you just changed your position. You have argued all along that drugs can't work without trust or believe in the physician, now, you have suddenly turned around to accept that drugs works in the system, but one must trust in the physician to avoid misuse.

You're not stable, oga Maximus.

Cheers and have a happy holiday period.

triplechoice:


My replies are not meant for him alone. They're so many others here who think and believe like him.

Offline I have them around me. When you try to explain to them what causes medicine to work, they would reject it with "forget it, without God medicine can't work"

I'm sure you're familiar with the statement, "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals"
If you visit any hospital owned by a church, that's the notice that welcomes people.

As a physician, I get what you mean exactly. Lots of religious fruitcakes around here. Yesterday, a woman walked into my consulting room. I greeted her and asked her what was the complaint. Auntie tell me say Devil get hypertension. I asked her to repeat, she told me the same thing. I took a minute to process what she said. Finally figured out she's hypertensive and non complaint. Another one swore she wasn't hypertensive but her diastolic for 3 visits is nothing less than 120mmhg.
I can go on but you have to help the fruitcakes whether they like it or not. Its your duty.
About the "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals" bullshit, I tell the cretards, you should have stayed home and gotten your healing instead of bothering me. But here you are leaving the comfort of your home, driving through traffic, paying money and waiting in line to get treatment. Something that you could have gotten by just getting on your knees and complain to your skydaddy and in minutes youre good
So ignore MadMax and his bros here. Or at best reverse-psyche him too. 2 can play that game

jaephoenix:

As a physician, I get what you mean exactly. Lots of religious fruitcakes around here. Yesterday, a woman walked into my consulting room. I greeted her and asked her what was the complaint. Auntie tell me say Devil get hypertension. I asked her to repeat, she told me the same thing. I took a minute to process what she said. Finally figured out she's hypertensive and non complaint. Another one swore she wasn't hypertensive but her diastolic for 3 visits is nothing less than 120mmhg.
I can go on but you have to help the fruitcakes whether they like it or not. Its your duty.
About the "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals" bullshit, I tell the cretards, you should have stayed home and gotten your healing instead of bothering me. But here you are leaving the comfort of your home, driving through traffic, paying money and waiting in line to get treatment. Something that you could have gotten by just getting on your knees and complain to your skydaddy and in minutes youre good
So ignore MadMax and his bros here. Or at best reverse-psyche him too. 2 can play that game

I just ignored him now. Thanks

triplechoice:


For the last time, who is the physician for person who self medicate?

Self medication?
Walahi talahi atheists no get shame!

So you decided to commit suicide shey?

But i will still help you!

Directives do come with all medicines so you must BELIEVE (TRUST) in the guidance otherwise you will not get the benefits!

triplechoice:

I just ignored him now. Thanks

Better do because i never mentioned you before you came to test your IQ!

jaephoenix:

What utter bullshit
So who's the 'Creator?

the one who made all things including you. The one by whose knowledge and spirit in man, he is able to create things when he thinks, meditates, visalize and acts on them

bobestman:
the one who made all things including you. The one by whose knowledge and spirit in man, he is able to create things when he thinks, meditates, visalize and acts on them

What is the need?
He is convinced that there is no Creator
He says he is an ape and a by product of the self processing of his first ancestor which is the bacteria

bobestman:
the one who made all things including you. The one by whose knowledge and spirit in man, he is able to create things when he thinks, meditates, visalize and acts on them

It's like telling a blind man that the sun is rising or setting

bobestman:
the one who made all things including you. The one by whose knowledge and spirit in man, he is able to create things when he thinks, meditates, visalize and acts on them

For the second time, whos this creator? I didn't ask what's this creator? In case you didn't complete kindergarten, I mean, what is his/her/their/its name?