tctrills:

Keep exposing your prostitute mother to the world.
Since you know that barrenness is the lack of conception, it's funny that a woman who lacks conception cannot have sorrow in conception. It's an impossibility. She can only have sorrow in her barrenness.
You can't have sorrow in what you don't experience.

Your madness is not allowing you see that she is already sorrowing because of failure of conception.

Aemmyjah:

I disagree with you
I think he's quite sincere in his questions
But like the venom of a viper does to a rat, no matter what it does or

Go and see his threads. They are always mad, filthy and corrupt. I have been studying his mind since and now I understand what he is all about, which is a foolish child who thinks that using a twisted eye to examine things is a type of intelligence not. The idiot does not know that it is another type of crazed madness and evil.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your madness is not allowing you see that she is already sorrowing because of failure of conception.

Lol calm down. You must not be angry person.
Oga the so called curse was very clear. It states that a woman would sorrow at conception not that a woman will sorrow because she can't conceive.
We both agree that women would prefer to have kids but the bible in Genesis chapter 3 was talking about the sorrow at conception and not the opposite.
Please read your bible.
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

tctrills:

One more thing, I agree with you, that 99.999% of all men need to sweat and work hard to survive. But there is an 0.001% that is exception to the rule. They are mostly called trustfund children.
A good number of the royal family in Saudi Arabia gives us a wonderful example.
The Rothschild family, The royal house of England, and many others do not need to work to survive.

How relevant is 0.001%
You have big problem indeed

tctrills:

I am happy you are changing your opinion. So Adam was the only one cursed to bring forth fruit from his sweat ? And Eve was the only woman cursed in childbirth? You new stands is more funny than your formal position.
If his children were not cursed then they would not suffer the same consequences as the cursed person.
You ask a very funny question. God has created blind people. He has created deaf and dumb but you think it's impossible for him to create a barren woman? Are you for real?

Like Dtruthspeaker clearly said, either you're mad or you're a preteen

Aemmyjah:


Like Dtruthspeaker clearly said, either you're mad or you're a preteen

Looooooooooooooooooooool
Dtruthspeaker's disciple. Nigerians are the only people to insult you when faced with the truth.

Aemmyjah:


How relevant is 0.001%
You have big problem indeed

Multiply 0.001% by 8 billion to know. Let's me do it for you, the answer is 80,000. So about 80,000 people according to you are imuned from God's curse.
Again even if just 1 person is spared from the so called curse, it shows that you are wrong.
Or did God indicte that the curse is not for the children of the super rich/? Does money outweigh God's curse?
I know you are starting to see how wrong you were.

tctrills:
God told Adam, In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground.
So I ask, is hardwork a curse?
Also those born into super wealthy families like trustfund children are the spared from the curse? Since they don't need to suffer.
Same Goes for the woman, women who never have kids, are they spared from the curse?

Genesis 3:16
To the woman He said,
“I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth; In pain you will give birth to children;
Yet your desire and longing will be for your husband,
And he will rule [with authority] over you and be responsible for you.”

When Genesis 3:16, with due care, is examined 2 Timothy 2:15 style, it becomes apparent that it's mental anguish that God said, as for Eve, that will be multiplied.

During childbirth she'll recollect with severe mental unhappiness what she literally threw away, simply for foolishly usurping authority (i.e. the authority of her husband, the custodian of the TKGE)

Yes, of course, she will also become very fertile, but regret, mental regret, massive disappointment will keep on playing in her mind, how she ferked up, big time

The Hebrew word, used in Genesis 3:16 is 'atsab', its English translation are anxiety, worrisome, even grieve

When Eve had her first son, she named him, Cain, meaning, I've got myself a man. Little did she know, that Cain, wasnt the promised man, and thats why when she had her second child, she considered him to be unimportant, so, casually, named him, Abel, which, literally means, mist, vapour, as meaning, be around for short while. She didnt realising she was prophetically naming him according to his destiny

Dtruthspeaker:
The way you think is crazy, God Cursed the conception and we see that many women never or almost never have kids and you still ask if they are spared from the Curse in their barrenness?

God Cursed that men would suffer and work arduous and almost unprofitable work yet you ask is hardwork a curse?

You are crazy O.

Luke 16:24
“The rich man shouted,
‘Father Abraham, have some pity!
Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue.
I am in anguish in these flames.’"

Time is not permitting me, to go deeper, move into the interior more and shed more light on Genesis 3:16

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:

Looooooooooooooooooooool
Dtruthspeaker's disciple. Nigerians are the only people to insult you when faced with the truth.

And what exactly is your Truth?
God desires us to suffer?

tctrills:
God told Adam, In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground.
So I ask, is hardwork a curse?
Also those born into super wealthy families like trustfund children are the spared from the curse? Since they don't need to suffer.
Same Goes for the woman, women who never have kids, are they spared from the curse?

God didn't curse man be man was made in His own image after His likeness, rather He cursed the earth for man's sake. Although, it is a punishment too.

Aemmyjah:


And what exactly is your Truth?
God desires us to suffer?

What are you taking about? God never cursed man. Not Adam nor any other man.

Instructing man to work is not a curse. Even God himself works.
And about suffering your bible said, 8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered.
Please read to discover what the bible teaches about trials, tribulations and suffering

Truvelisback:
God didn't curse man be man was made in His own image after His likeness, rather He cursed the earth for man's sake. Although, it is a punishment too.

I am not sure it was even a punishment. It was done for our good.

tctrills:

What are you taking about? God never cursed man. Not Adam nor any other man.

Instructing man to work is not a curse. Even God himself works.
And about suffering your bible said, 8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered.
Please read to discover what the bible teaches about trials, tribulations and suffering

How does this correlate with sweat and 0.001%
You are not making any SENSE

Aemmyjah:


How does this correlate with sweat and 0.001%
You are not making any SENSE

Now you lack understanding. I spoke about the 0.001% to explain to you that it was not a curse. It would be evil for God to curse the poor and immune the children of billionaires. So completely wipe the curse thing from your head.
I advise that you begin to see God's words to Adam and Eve not as a curse rather, as instructions and commandments for life outside the garden.

tctrills:

Now you lack understanding. I spoke about the 0.001% to explain to you that it was not a curse. It would be evil for God to curse the poor and immune the children of billionaires. So completely wipe the curse thing from your head.

Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

Aemmyjah:



Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

Are you drunk, I just told you that no one was cursed.

Aemmyjah:



Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

I advise that you begin to see God's words to Adam and Eve not as a curse rather, as instructions and commandments for life outside the garden.

Aemmyjah:



Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

Yes if you parents are poor, you would most likely suffer poverty, it does not mean God cursed you.

Aemmyjah:



Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

Suffering is not a bad thing. God allowed Jesus Christ to suffer. He allowed the devil to suffer job.
He taught that:
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.

And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.

Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds,

It's clear that you are yet to figure out God's plan.

Aemmyjah:



Mumu
So God cursed the poor?
We're suffering cos of inherited imperfections and the bad actions from ourselves and fellow human mistakes

Read and understand, God was basically dividing labour amoung the man and woman. The man's responsibility was to provide bread while the woman was in charge of the kids.

Dtruthspeaker:
Who has not seen that a barren woman is unhappy and full of sorrow?

tctrills:
A barren woman can have sorrow in barrenness but never sorrow in conception. I know you are trying to win an argument but please be honest with yourself.

If you were Eve. If you experienced a lifestyle before the fall from grace to grass just as Eve did. If you knew what you by yourself with your own thieving hand did to destroy utopia, an ideal setting, ideal world, then, you would at every conception, every time making love, be mentally thinking, with highly mental sensation, painful mental feeling of wow, how very wrong was I. How unwise, was I. How deceptive and misleading was the serpent. The fruit even had more than wisdom in it, it wasnt as it looked, pleasing to the eyes, good for food, something that would make her wise. It was a scam sold her by the serpent

All those thoughts will continually be playing in her mind. Troubling her, giving her intense sorrow, anguish and pain

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:

Read and understand, God was basically dividing labour amoung the man and woman. The man's responsibility was to provide bread while the woman was in charge of the kids.

Your stupid comments have been read and ignored
Let's move on

Aemmyjah:


Your stupid comments have been read and ignored
Let's move on

Loool
It's so Funny. You are the one that came to this thread no one forced you.
You got schooled and now you are out.
Now let's allow others to learn. I have taught you but you love darkness more than light.
Now move on.

tctrills:

Loool
It's so Funny. You are the one that came to this thread no one forced you.
You got schooled and now you are out.
Now let's allow others to learn. I have taught you but you love darkness more than light.
Now move on.

Jehovah cursed the ground
Expelled him from the garden
Told him he will return to dust (his former state of non-existence)
You say na responsibility

Aemmyjah:


Jehovah cursed the ground
Expelled him from the garden
Told him he will return to dust (his former state of non-existence)
You say na responsibility

Loool, I just know your type. You couldn't help but reply. Didn't you say you were moving on? All it took was 5 mins and you are back here.
Loóooooooooooool
Funny boy.
See I am not like others who would begin in exchange insults. My job is to teach you and allow you decide to follow the truth or not.

Now to your comments, you are right, the Ground was cursed not the man.

And yes he left the garden just the same way Jesus left heaven.

And he died just the same way Jesus died.

Adam was never cursed.

tctrills:

I am not sure it was even a punishment. It was done for our good.

U don't know what u are saying.

tctrills:

Loool, I just know your type. You couldn't help but reply. Didn't you say you were moving on? All it took was 5 mins and you are back here.
Loóooooooooooool
Funny boy.
See I am not like others who would begin in exchange insults. My job is to teach you and allow you decide to follow the truth or not.

Now to your comments, you are right, the Ground was cursed not the man.

And yes he left the garden just the same way Jesus left heaven.

And he died just the same way Jesus died.

Adam was never cursed.

Ok
Rock ya boat

Truvelisback:
U don't know what u are saying.

I actually do. Please read your bible

Aemmyjah:


Ok
Rock ya boat

I love meeting people like you. Your type seems to be very common in Nairaland.

tctrills:
I actually do. Please read your bible

How? Explain.

Truvelisback:
How? Explain.

Good question.
So many Christians view suffering as a bad thing but it is only part of God's plan.
That's why we are taught to Count it all joy, when we meet trials of various kinds.

Infact the bible teaches that Jesus was made perfect through what he suffered.

So our trials and tribulations and not punishment for a curse rather, they are to help us grow and become perfect.

tctrills:


I love meeting people like you. Your type seems to be very common in Nairaland.

Expelling Adam was a responsibility on how to live
Punishing him with the penalty of death was a responsibility
He was to toil and sweat and to reap thorns and thistles was a responsibility
Eve INCREASED pain during childbirth was a responsibility
Retuning back to dust at death was a responsibility

Your brain needs testing by a blacksmith