Why won't government look at the plight of the doctors and find a way to resolve it.

FreeStuffsNG:

You are wrong if you really think it is that easy to go with oath certificate to overseas and immediately taken I am not referring to temporary license.

The reps are in order for as long as you are educated with tax payers money. Collecting license after being trained with tax payers money and leaving for overseas is not sustainable. I am not about the whataboutism, I am looking at the fact of the system. It is a very expensive training that will eventually crash if they do not have this law that regulates where and how these resources are shipped overseas as wastages of tax payers resources. It is good for them too as it reduces the supply for those enslaving them overseas so the value on them increases .

You don’t know how things work in this profession. I was trained in Nigeria and UK. I am in better position to advise you and the government. So long as you are provisionally registered in your country of training, you can do the exam abroad and get registration provisionally abroad as well. They will train you from foundation years to specialist years. This is what we have gone through. And you cannot work as a doctor without any registration. You must be at least provisionally registered and then train and give service under supervision for at least a year or two, before being fully registered.

Blue3k:
Looks like they going to checkmate the doctors. Now that they can't leave its time to deal with their demands for better pay. They're going to get the most vicious reactions now that most of them can't run away.

While I'm sure that is the intended effect, I doubt it will work out like that in practice.

For one thing, it will accelerate the departure of all the doctors who already in the pipeline and will be qualified before the bill passes.

The next factor to consider is that many medical students will still have the means and opportunity to proceed abroad to wealthy countries where they can train and qualify, except now they can simply rule out ever returning to Nigeria. The bill therefore shrinks the pool of possible medical practitioners, particularly in fields where the necessary expertise can only be acquired abroad. How many world-class surgeons from places like America's Mayo Clinic are going to leave behind their cushy careers to work as mere trainees in Nigeria, no matter how much they might wish to return home?

The final thing to note is the impact this will have on the number of students who will opt for medicine in the future. Anyone intelligent enough to consider medicine is also smart enough to realize that to the extent this bill actually works, it makes becoming a doctor a much less attractive prospect, and they'd be better off switching to fields where no such restrictions are in place, and qualifications are equally portable (e.g. computer science or engineering).

This is just another example of ignorant Nigerian politicians passing populist legislation that restricts trade, not caring about the inevitable consequences which will result. This mentality is why a petroleum-exporting country has no working refineries and suffers perennial fuel shortages, and it is why power supply has languished at the same capacity for decades even as brand-new power-generating stations lie idle. Passing laws restricting the options of private citizens has never worked to increase the availability of any goods or services, whether we're talking food price controls or restraints on newly qualified doctors.

The right way to get Nigerian doctors to stick around is to make medical practice in Nigeria more attractive, by devoting more financial resources to health (and to primary care in particular), but Nigerians are so blinded by the "awuff" mentality that they would rather pass useless, economy-distorting restrictions rather than actually paying what the market demands for what they want, never mind decades of failure going down this route.

These dingbats that started the brain drain in the health sector are now about to completely kill off the healthcare system! Who would want to study a course that leaves them tied down to a high risk, poor paying, unprofitable spot for five years when their mates have long moved on?? This bill will not stop the brain drain, it’s going to accelerate it! They just made the medical profession a lot less attractive when they should be doing the opposite. No matter how blunt a cutlass is, it should never be given to a mad man. Nigerians are the only ones that will give mad men power and expect not to cry after!

Eniitankorede:




You don’t know how things work in this profession. I was trained in Nigeria and UK. I am in better position to advise you and the government. So long as you are provisionally registered in your country of training, you can do the exam abroad and get registration provisionally abroad as well. They will train you from foundation years to specialist years. This is what we have gone through. And you cannot work as a doctor without any registration. You must be at least provisionally registered and then train and give service under supervision for at least a year or two, before being fully registered.

It is obvious, you do not understand me if you really think with this law you will now get that provisional license as easy as you got it. You are confusing a time when there is no law forbiding an action to when there is now a national law against it Are they the same? Do you really know the implication of a law that criminalises what you do even if you are yet to be prosecuted and convicted?

I have laid it out to you where intervention will come is at the provisional license stage and if you truly have gone through it then you will not suggest that without provisional licence you can still go overseas.
And this is the real part of the law that address the "overwise", the law will peescribe that if you flout the law , it will make you liable to conviction. Please did you also go through the training with a criminal conviction record?

I have maintained that the law will come in between the oath taking and taking your full license and you are just confirming it so I do not get your opening line. Once you get the provisional license is not even the real issue, the issue is just jetting out as a fresh medical graduate with no provisional license and even if you jet out with provisional license, the law now makes you liable. So many areas the govt will effect this law you know govt can but not willing to admit it and I am not willing to even disclose further to avoid unnecessary argument.After God na Govt o.

LeoDeKing:

Ogbeni, look inward, something is certainly wrong from within.

People that spend 24 hours of each day insulting everybody and everything, do you know the appropriate name and description for them?

You have been insulting everyone since 2015 and there are chances this trend will continue for another 8 years, don't you think there is need for self appraisal?

You ehn

🤡 APC Lawmaker

Mad People. No bill has passed to stop politicians going abroad for medical trip.

I have said it several times your senators don't represent u

LeoDeKing:

Ogbeni, look inward, something is certainly wrong from within.

People that spend 24 hours of each day insulting everybody and everything, do you know the appropriate name and description for them?

You have been insulting everyone since 2015 and there are chances this trend will continue for another 8 years, don't you think there is need for self appraisal?

You called chimamanda an ashawo in one other post, I guess that's how you greet your mother every morning.

LeoDeKing:

I'm actually sitting in front of a mirror and what I see is a happy face.

Do you know why the face is happy?

Because Nigerians actually escaped a bigot fighting a religious war.

Say what u want I'll still not phuck yo momma for free

Then the politicians also should stop going abroad for treatment and medical checkup

Zambia did it. Nigeria can do it too. Foreign countries are recruiting much of African doctors

Good point there. The bill is long overdue.

ImadeUReadThis:
To be honest, the FG subsidizes training if medical doctors in federal universities and teaching hospitals .

The cost of procuring a medical degree and licence abroad especially in the US and UK is far higher than it is here .

It can be argued that Nigerian govt trains medical practitioners for the west.

This situation isn't even good for western medical practitioners as the average pay if medical practitioners has drastically fallen from a minimum of a $1mill per annum to hovering to about $400k for doctors .

It doesn't serve the west nor Nigeria in the long run but rather Jewish owned hospitals .

Comelysync:
It's dead on arrival, because it's only Nigerian medical license the bill can stop, it can't stop a medical doctor who has graduated from applying for a medical license in other countries after passing their medical exams, the only way we can stop the brain drain is to improve the economy and its win win for everyone, if you don't grant them license and they have means to japa, they will and the develop Nation will grant them license to practice QED.

What stops Nigerian doctors from going to private universities to obtain mbbs?

arejibadz:


https://twitter.com/HouseNGR/status/1643996023885533184?s=20



https://leadership.ng/breaking-bill-to-regulate-nigerian-medics-from-going-abroad-passes-second-reading/#:~:text=In%20a%20bid%20to%20halt,in%20the%20country%2C%20has%20passed

What kind of enslavement is this? After someone spent years using his own resources to train himself to become a doctor, you now want to stop him from further advancing himself?

arejibadz:


https://twitter.com/HouseNGR/status/1643996023885533184?s=20



https://leadership.ng/breaking-bill-to-regulate-nigerian-medics-from-going-abroad-passes-second-reading/#:~:text=In%20a%20bid%20to%20halt,in%20the%20country%2C%20has%20passed

Stupid set of people.U want to enslave dem or wat.How abt a bill to pay an allowance of 100k to every doctor in Nigeria whether employed or not.So u are not doing well but u want to force citizens to stay....bastards

In all honesty, there should also be a bill regulating children of senior public officers from schooling abroad.

Georgry:
Una dey craze.

very

FreeStuffsNG:
At last. It came late since I wrote to recommend that this law be passed for years now but it is still better late than never. Cuba has it and it worked for govt-trained doctors.

Their unregulated exit have almost crashed the system yet they go overseas to be enslaved.

Nigeria lose, they lose, their parents lose, the taxpayers whose tax was used to train them lose.It is not sustainable at all.
The law should be accelerated!
https://punchng.com/nigerian-doctors-in-uk-lament-exploitation-slave-labour/

check my signature for free stuffs!

Leave the slavery part out, its their life.

Hmmm

Blue3k:
Looks like they going to checkmate the doctors. Now that they can't leave its time to deal with their demands for better pay. They're going to get the most vicious reactions now that most of them can't run away.

They haven't passed it to law yet. But yes they'll have to face what's driving those doctors away in the first place. But no they wouldn't. This is Nigeria

Clowns and fools. .

If your country is livable, w0n't the doctors stay?

When they suffered for about 7 years in schools and can't even afford to put fuel in their generators. .

FreeStuffsNG:
At last. It came late since I wrote to recommend that this law be passed for years now but it is still better late than never. Cuba has it and it worked for govt-trained doctors.

Their unregulated exit have almost crashed the system yet they go overseas to be enslaved.

Nigeria lose, they lose, their parents lose, the taxpayers whose tax was used to train them lose.It is not sustainable at all.
The law should be accelerated!
https://punchng.com/nigerian-doctors-in-uk-lament-exploitation-slave-labour/

check my signature for free stuffs!

But will your so called politicians patronise them here in Nigeria You people are mad, all of you are stupid, every single of you are mad

What have you put in place for them as doctors, they have reasons, which your block corruption heads has refused to see, so you idiots wants to keep enslaving them in Nigeria with nothing.....you are very stupid to vomit this trash, as always, enemies of the people, make una continue dey lavish the country with stealing, one day be one day....idiots

arejibadz:


https://twitter.com/HouseNGR/status/1643996023885533184?s=20



https://leadership.ng/breaking-bill-to-regulate-nigerian-medics-from-going-abroad-passes-second-reading/#:~:text=In%20a%20bid%20to%20halt,in%20the%20country%2C%20has%20passed

No need for all this bill, government should just withraw the subsdy

LeoDeKing:

I'm actually sitting in front of a mirror and what I see is a happy face.

Do you know why the face is happy?

Because Nigerians actually escaped a bigot fighting a religious war.

You asked an irrelevant question and answer yourself? Can't you just have a clean debate devoid of insults?

NASS should pass bill stopping political office holders, civil servant, MDAs official from going abroad to seeking medicals attention.

If those there don't develop their country, will our useless leaders here go there to relax, seek medicals ??
Only in Africa our leaders go abroad for holidays, medicals, meetings, etc...

When last did we see on news that USA, UK ,Germany leaders are seeking medicals abroad....

FreeStuffsNG:
It is obvious, you do not understand me if you really think with this law you will now get that provisional license as easy as you got it. You are confusing a time when there is no law forbiding an action to when there is now a national law against it Are they the same? Do you really know the implication of a law that criminalises what you do even if you are yet to be prosecuted and convicted?

I have laid it out to you where intervention will come is at the provisional license stage and if you truly have gone through it then you will not suggest that without provisional licence you can still go overseas.
And this is the real part of the law that address the "overwise", the law will peescribe that if you flout the law , it will make you liable to conviction. Please did you also go through the training with a criminal conviction record?

I have maintained that the law will come in between the oath taking and taking your full license and you are just confirming it so I do not get your opening line. Once you get the provisional license is not even the real issue, the issue is just jetting out as a fresh medical graduate with no provisional license and even if you jet out with provisional license, the law now makes you liable. So many areas the govt will effect this law you know govt can but not willing to admit it and I am not willing to even disclose further to avoid unnecessary argument.After God na Govt o.

How about this mooks sponsoring a law to make it a crime for any public office holder or politician to go for medical treatment abroad?

Make una dey play.

Yes, let them also have a bill to bar public office holders from going abroad for medical treatment.

tonysunkan:
In all honesty, there should also be a bill regulating children of senior public officers from schooling abroad.

Yup