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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:55pm On Sep 23, 2023
gidgiddy:


This is a lame attempt to blame Ironsi for what he did not do. [b]So a civil servant in the Eastern or Western Region will stop doing his or her duties to the Region that pays him or her because there was unification? [/b]The only way Ironsi could have denied the Regions control of their resources or appropriated what was due to them, was by decree. Which decree did Ironsi pass altering the revenue shearing formula agreed at independence? None

But Gowon came after Ironsi, used decree 14 to dissolve all 4 Regions, created 12 new states, then used decree 15 to end resource control. Would Gowon be ending resource control with decree 15 if Ironsi had already done it?

Stop spreading falsehood and lies, Gowons decree 14 and 15 are on the internet for all to read

For years you people kept spreading lies about Ironsi, not knowing that the age of social media would come when lies can be debunked at the click of a button

Google Gowons decree 14 and 15 and cure your ignorance
For over ten years running now
you have kept on dodging the question of what exactly Ironsi meant in his May 24 1966 National Broadcast with the following statements:
1. The regions are abolished

2. Nigeria ceases to be what is known as a federation but now just Republic of Nigeria.

3. Federal Military Government is now National Military Government

4. This decree removed the last vestiges of regionalism.

Until you take the bull by the horn and clearly explain what these lines mean, you shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.

Then per the bolded: I will only give you a present analogous scenario.
At present we have the Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS) which has staff in every state. These staff of FIRS are all civil servants of the Federal Government even though they reside in the various states. Now, are you suggesting that it is possible for any of them to generate revenues within their states of domicile and remit those revenues to the governor of the respective states? Can an FIRS staff in Onitsha remit his revenue to Charles Soludo?

Ironsi converted the civil service to National Civil service and you expected those civil servants to still be remitting taxes to the governors of the groups of Provinces? Even Ironsi himself said it in the broadcast that all civil servants should from henceforth begin to see themselves as serving the nation and not the regions any longer.

Why not post Gowon's Decree 14 here for us to read and know whether it was it that removed resource control? You think you are talking to kids? Resource control was removed by Ironsi and that was why he was toppled in the first instance only for the same North to hijack his no-resource control policy to their own advantage.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 4:02pm On Sep 23, 2023
Irony1:


You keep jumbling points. National and Federal military government are just nomenclature nothing more. Ironsi i repeat only centralized the federal civil service structure nothing more. The regional civil service apparatus was not touched. Ironsi didn't destroy regional system of government, Gowon did. Ojukwu proposed a confederate system of government almost akin to different countries in one loose federation it is not decentralized system, stop trying to play smart.
Just listen to yourself: Ironsi centralized the Federal Civil service. Must you swim in illogicality in defense of the indefensible? The Federal Civil service by its very nomenclature is central. So how do you centralize it again? To centralize something means to bring all its different autonomous sections into one entity. Were there different civil service institutions in each of the regions all before then? What are you even saying? Which school did you attend?

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 4:10pm On Sep 23, 2023
Irony1:


Bros stop being evasive. The civil service has always been structured into two federal or regional civil service. The consolidation happened in the federal civil service and he allowed the regional governors to control he regional civil service. The problem the northerners had with this is that the movement from state to federal civil service will keep them at a disadvantage because they cannot compete with their fellow southern counterparts. Ironsi didn't kill true federalism stop trying to play coy in this argument you are not making sense
You are the one being evasive. Tell us what exactly the bolded lines mean in Ironsi's broadcast on Unification Decree means. Though I know you will dance around it without ever really answering it.

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past,
and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.

All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government,
he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution
in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic
subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission
. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country
. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 5:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
Irony1:


Bros stop being evasive. The civil service has always been structured into two federal or regional civil service. The consolidation happened in the federal civil service and he allowed the regional governors to control he regional civil service. The problem the northerners had with this is that the movement from state to federal civil service will keep them at a disadvantage because they cannot compete with their fellow southern counterparts. Ironsi didn't kill true federalism stop trying to play coy in this argument you are not making sense
Contrary to your insinuation above, Ironsi himself made it clear in his national broadcast of May 24 1966 that the civil service had become one: See his words below:

"The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission."

So which Federal and Regional civil services are you talking about again.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:43pm On Sep 24, 2023
Deadlytruth:

Contrary to your insinuation above, Ironsi himself made it clear in his national broadcast of May 24 1966 that the civil service had become one: See his words below:

"The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission."

So which Federal and Regional civil services are you talking about again.

Oga your lies cannot work. It is Gowon that shares the blame and not Ironsi, why didn't the others not seek to rectify that ironsi supposedly did?
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:45pm On Sep 24, 2023
Deadlytruth:

You are the one being evasive. Tell us what exactly the bolded lines mean in Ironsi's broadcast on Unification Decree means. Though I know you will dance around it without ever really answering it.

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past,
and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.

All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government,
he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution
in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic
subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission
. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country
. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Oga so if the regions were abolished why did the governors still remain? What is the definition of a region? Is it not a collection of provinces? Oga stop all this evasive games. Even the context of the unitary decree still showed he wanted to show unity at all levels.
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:45pm On Sep 24, 2023
Deadlytruth:
Just listen to yourself: Ironsi centralized the Federal Civil service. Must you swim in illogicality in defense of the indefensible? The Federal Civil service by its very nomenclature is central. So how do you centralize it again? To centralize something means to bring all its different autonomous sections into one entity. Were there different civil service institutions in each of the regions all before then? What are you even saying? Which school did you attend?

Oga your lies cannot work jare. It was Gowon who abolished the regions and created states and also created the quasi structure that we are using today and not Ironsi.
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:48pm On Sep 24, 2023
DomPerignon:



Dey decieve yourselves in that your yeast.

Ironsi destroyed Federalism .


Gowon's decree 8 is what we are practicing today but without fiscal and military autonomy.


Ironsi didn't destroy federalism. The unitary decree in itself actually encouraged unity and federalism because the decree wanted every civil servant irrespective of their region to see themselves as part of Nigeria and as such can be anywhere in the country. Federalism was destroyed by decree 8 which was promulgated by Gowon.
Stop being stupid.
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:54pm On Sep 24, 2023
Deadlytruth:

You are the one being evasive. Tell us what exactly the bolded lines mean in Ironsi's broadcast on Unification Decree means. Though I know you will dance around it without ever really answering it.

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past,
and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.

All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government,
he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution
in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic
subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission
. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country
. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Under the Unitary decree Nigeria formally ceased to be a Federation and was renamed the ‘Republic of Nigeria’, the Federal Executive Council became the ‘National Military Government’, the Federal Executive Council became simply the ‘Executive Council’ and Lagos the ‘capital territory’. The Regions were formally abolished, but the Provinces (the next largest administrative division below the Regions) were grouped into ‘the Northern Group of Provinces’, the ‘Eastern Group of Provinces’, etc. These Groups corresponded exactly with the previous Regions and the four Military Governors continued in office administering the same area as before.

The Military Governors however lost the power to incur expenditure on their own responsibility without prior consent. The federal and regional public services were unified into a single ‘National Public Service’. Control over the most senior posts was centralized. The power to appoint and dismiss ‘ persons to hold or act in the office of permanent secretary to any department of government of the Republic or any other office of equivalent rank in the National Public Service’ was vested in the Supreme Military Council. The National Public Service Commission was to be consulted before any such appointments were made. The power to appoint, promote, dismiss, and discipline in relation to all other administrative posts was vested in the National Public Service Commission.

This power was delegated except for the most senior posts to Provincial Public Service Commissions. The power to appoint the members of the Police Service Commission was vested in the Head of the National Military Government (under Decree No. 1 it had been in the Federal Executive Council).
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Ngozi123(f): 1:01am On Oct 04, 2023
RevDesm0ndJuju:


You are harbouring future extermination of Yorubas because they are retelling the story of the events of the senseless Ibo coup of 1966 which led to the avoidable civil war ?


You people will never change.

Is that what your got from that comment?

Guilty conscience is disturbing you... undecided

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Uizuchi: 4:36am On Dec 06, 2023
This is factually untrue. Gowon wasn’t married to his wife until 1969. At the time he had an Igbo girlfriend. Before your misinformation spreads as real history, you should do basic research & you should site your sources. I wonder how many details in here are erroneous?
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by cocolacec(m): 7:02am On Dec 06, 2023
Timothy89:
did those fools abusing Northerners now see the reason they fear igbo President. just look at what happen post election, how peter obi kinsmen were abusing the tribes of those that supported them?

do not entrust your safety, businesses in any igbo hand if you want to live long, even my woman an igbo always warned me about doing business with igbo

out of 100% obidients mummies outside of southeast, 70% have dropped, some fools are still carried away with the lies despite glaring of obi failure in Anambra foolish man

Be cqreful with that woman of yours,if an ethnic crisis break out in the future,you might be her first casuality.One igbo woman wanted tonpoison her Yoruba husband because of election crisis this year.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:02am On Dec 06, 2023
Irony1:


Under the Unitary decree Nigeria formally ceased to be a Federation and was renamed the ‘Republic of Nigeria’, the Federal Executive Council became the ‘National Military Government’, the Federal Executive Council became simply the ‘Executive Council’ and Lagos the ‘capital territory’. The Regions were formally abolished, but the Provinces (the next largest administrative division below the Regions) were grouped into ‘the Northern Group of Provinces’, the ‘Eastern Group of Provinces’, etc. These Groups corresponded exactly with the previous Regions and the four Military Governors continued in office administering the same area as before.

The Military Governors however lost the power to incur expenditure on their own responsibility without prior consent. The federal and regional public services were unified into a single ‘National Public Service’. Control over the most senior posts was centralized. The power to appoint and dismiss ‘ persons to hold or act in the office of permanent secretary to any department of government of the Republic or any other office of equivalent rank in the National Public Service’ was vested in the Supreme Military Council. The National Public Service Commission was to be consulted before any such appointments were made. The power to appoint, promote, dismiss, and discipline in relation to all other administrative posts was vested in the National Public Service Commission.

This power was delegated except for the most senior posts to Provincial Public Service Commissions. The power to appoint the members of the Police Service Commission was vested in the Head of the National Military Government (under Decree No. 1 it had been in the Federal Executive Council).
Unfortunately, in all your responses you have not been able to address the question you are asked which is simply; what did Ironsi mean with the bolded lines in his broadcast? Until you answer this question very directly, you will remain an Ironsi appoligist shying away from the naked truth.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:34am On Dec 08, 2023
Irony1:


Oga we can do this all day, but your plans have failed woefully. Gowon and not Ironsi is to blame for removing the regions. Abeg stop this stupidity and run along. You are talking of naked truth, Naked truth has been staring at you, and you refused to comprehend. Dude just rest you cannot win this one.
You are the stupid one for defending Ironsi just because he is a fellow Igbo like you. Your likes would have been arguing today that Ironsi's action was tantamount to destroying true federalism and regional system had Ironsi been a Yoruba man or an Edo man or even an Ijaw man.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by gidgiddy: 12:21pm On Dec 08, 2023
Deadlytruth:

You are the stupid one for defending Ironsi just because he is a fellow Igbo like you. Your likes would have been arguing today that Ironsi's action was tantamount to destroying true federalism and regional system had Ironsi been a Yoruba man or an Edo man or even an Ijaw man.

You guys like to talk nonsense and lies about Ironsi, spreading the falsehood that he was the one who destroyed the Regionalism and federalism even though all 4 Regions existed and enjoyed resource control under Ironsi

You people even took Decree 34, a simple civil service decree, and turned it on its head just to implicate Ironsi

The thing you people never understood is that this is the age of social media where lies and falsehoods are easily debunked.

Gowon was the person who abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 unitary states, using decree 14, then removed resource control with decree 15

If Ironsi had already abolished Regions and taken away resource control, would Gowon need to come and do it again? Of course not, shows Ironsi did nothing other than military rule.

So you guys can keep lying against Ironsi because he was an Igbo man, but Gowons decree 14 and 15 below, will always tell people the truth

Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:33pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys like to talk nonsense and lies about Ironsi, spreading the falsehood that he was the one who destroyed the Regionalism and federalism even though all 4 Regions existed and enjoyed resource control under Ironsi

You people even took Decree 34, a simple civil service decree, and turned it on its head just to implicate Ironsi

The thing you people never understood is that this is the age of social media where lies and falsehoods are easily debunked.

Gowon was the person who abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 unitary states, using decree 14, then removed resource control with decree 15

If Ironsi had already abolished Regions and taken away resource control, would Gowon need to come and do it again? Of course not, shows Ironsi did nothing other than military rule.

So you guys can keep lying against Ironsi because he was an Igbo man, but Gowons decree 14 and 15 below, will always tell people the truth
We have been down this road before. The questions you continue to dodge are what did Ironsi mean by 'the following in his may 27 1966 broadcast:

1. The regions are abolished and Nigeria broken down to provinces
2. Nigeria ceases to be what is known as a federation
3. Civil servants of the former regions are now to see themselves as serving the country and not their regions
4. All governors of the groups of provinces are to report to the center henceforth.
5. This arrangement is without prejudice to the new constitution to be drafted.

Item five is the clearest evidence that Ironsi had a deliberate intention to drive Nigeria further in the unitary direction and permanently.

Now tell us what Ironsi meant with all these unequivocal declarations?

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:36pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys like to talk nonsense and lies about Ironsi, spreading the falsehood that he was the one who destroyed the Regionalism and federalism even though all 4 Regions existed and enjoyed resource control under Ironsi

You people even took Decree 34, a simple civil service decree, and turned it on its head just to implicate Ironsi

The thing you people never understood is that this is the age of social media where lies and falsehoods are easily debunked.

Gowon was the person who abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 unitary states, using decree 14, then removed resource control with decree 15

If Ironsi had already abolished Regions and taken away resource control, would Gowon need to come and do it again? Of course not, shows Ironsi did nothing other than military rule.

So you guys can keep lying against Ironsi because he was an Igbo man, but Gowons decree 14 and 15 below, will always tell people the truth
See how dishonest you can be? You are quick to upload Gowons decrees gazette. But you didn't think it is also appropriate to upload Ironsi's own so that an unbiased reader can know both sides of the story and from an informed position judge who between Gowon and Ironsi introduced unitary system and first tampered with the regional system.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by gidgiddy: 2:32pm On Dec 08, 2023
Deadlytruth:

We have been down this road before. The questions you continue to dodge are what did Ironsi mean by 'the following in his may 27 1966 broadcast:

1. The regions are abolished and Nigeria broken down to provinces
2. Nigeria ceases to be what is known as a federation
3. Civil servants of the former regions are now to see themselves as serving the country and not their regions
4. All governors of the groups of provinces are to report to the center henceforth.
5. This arrangement is without prejudice to the new constitution to be drafted.

Item five is the clearest evidence that Ironsi had a deliberate intention to drive Nigeria further in the unitary direction and permanently.

Now tell us what Ironsi meant with all these unequivocal declarations?

You guys are funny. You have Gowons decree 14 and 15 in black and white to show you that it was Gowon that abolished the 4 Regions and took away resource control, but gou want to rely on a broadcast as your own evidence. Well, a broadcast cannot be used to abolish Regions, it can only be done by decree. Show us any decree Ironsi promulgated that abolished Regions like Gowons decree 14 and 15

Even when the evidence is there, someone is talking about broadcast
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:51pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys are funny. You have Gowons decree 14 and 15 in black and white to show you that it was Gowon that abolished the 4 Regions and took away resource control, but gou want to rely on a broadcast as your own evidence. Well, a broadcast cannot be used to abolish Regions, it can only be done by decree. Show us any decree Ironsi promulgated that abolished Regions like Gowons decree 14 and 15

Even when the evidence is there, someone is talking about broadcast
You fool no one. Which line in the image you posted above says anything about resource control? Why not share Ironsi's own too and let us see if you are not hiding something

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 6:45pm On Dec 08, 2023
Deadlytruth:

You are the stupid one for defending Ironsi just because he is a fellow Igbo like you. Your likes would have been arguing today that Ironsi's action was tantamount to destroying true federalism and regional system had Ironsi been a Yoruba man or an Edo man or even an Ijaw man.

You are mad for saying this nonsense. Ironsi I repeat did not abolish the regions it was Gowon that did, if you don't like it go and drink sniper or look for better ways to kick yourself. Thanks God for social media some lies are now being challenged, even if he was Yoruba or Igbo it will not change what I am just saying right now to you. I can argue this all year with you and my stand will not change Gowon abolished regions and not Ironsi... ... QED
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Christistruth00: 8:08pm On Dec 08, 2023
Irony1:


You are mad for saying this nonsense. Ironsi I repeat did not abolish the regions it was Gowon that did, if you don't like it go and drink sniper or look for better ways to kick yourself. Thanks God for social media some lies are now being challenged, even if he was Yoruba or Igbo it will not change what I am just saying right now to you. I can argue this all year with you and my stand will not change Gowon abolished regions and not Ironsi... ... QED


It was Ironsii that abolished Regional Autonomy and Power

General ironsi completely took away the autonomy of the Regions with Decree 34 of 1966

Before then the western region had its own busy UK embassy on great portland street in London which had been established by awolowo and which had to be closed down immediately after ironsi's Decree 34 and the building was later taken over by the Federal Govt

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 8:11pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:



It was Ironsii that abolished Regional Autonomy and Power

General ironsi completely took away the autonomy of the Regions with Decree 34 of 1966

Before then the western region had its own busy UK embassy on great portland street in London which had been established by awolowo and which had to be closed down immediately after ironsi's Decree 34 and the building was later taken over by the Federal Govt

Stop being d**t Western Regions Embassy stopped functioning after independence. Take it easy to stop lying, even Decree 34 in hindsight never abolished regions. The regions still existed each region had a military governor who according to the decree will be called a provincial administrator. The person who literally abolished regions and created states was Gowon. Look Young man stay off my mention, i am still on your case, otherwise you will be arrested.
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Christistruth00: 8:31pm On Dec 08, 2023
Irony1:


Stop being d**t Western Regions Embassy stopped functioning after independence. Take it easy to stop lying, even Decree 34 in hindsight never abolished regions. The regions still existed each region had a military governor who according to the decree will be called a provincial administrator. The person who literally abolished regions and created states was Gowon. Look Young man stay off my mention, i am still on your case, otherwise you will be arrested.


The Western Region UK Embassy was Closed down by the Ironsi Regime in January of 1966
The Western Region Embassy was on Great Portland Street in London

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by nku5: 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2023
Deadlytruth:

Contrary to your insinuation above, Ironsi himself made it clear in his national broadcast of May 24 1966 that the civil service had become one: See his words below:

"The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission."

So which Federal and Regional civil services are you talking about again.

Ironsi abolished regionalism but had regional governors and retained resource control as he met it. Gowon is you people's god for making Awo his PA despite him abolishing the regions, creating states and ending resource control. Propaganda and tribalism has eaten away at you people's logical reasoning.
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by VEHINTOLAR: 9:09pm On Dec 08, 2023
Ngozi123:


They really have no idea what they're doing.

Every day is for the thief, one day is for the owner.

When exactly will you village dwelling cowardly idiots be courageous enough to carry out your threats ?! You fools have been saying this "one day" for ages now,start it already,cowards !

Believe it or not,some of us are fervently praying for the day igbos will start a major crisis in Nigeria;we earnestly crave it ! Trust me ,it will be your end !

Mtchew,empty chestbeating village dwelling monkeys like you lots think you're in any position in this country to threaten anyone,right ? Just bring it on !

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by yommen: 9:25pm On Dec 08, 2023
tishbite42:

Stop beating about the bush
Answer my questions straightly
After all, a Yoruba man wrote the book I'm quoting

Does that change the fact that non Igbos were killed while all Igbos involved were let go?

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 10:36pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:



The Western Region UK Embassy was Closed down by the Ironsi Regime in January of 1966
The Western Region Embassy was on Great Portland Street in London


Oga go and rest and stood spreading lies. Western region's embassy was closed in 1960. Stop being a ludite abeg
Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by VEHINTOLAR: 11:07pm On Dec 08, 2023
Useless igbos,you will forever continue to pay heavy prices for your crimes against other ethnic nationalities in Nigeria.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:38am On Dec 09, 2023
nku5:


Ironsi abolished regionalism but had regional governors and retained resource control as he met it. Gowon is you people's god for making Awo his PA despite him abolishing the regions, creating states and ending resource control. Propaganda and tribalism has eaten away at you people's logical reasoning.
We have been down this road before. You uploaded Gowon's gazette without being able to point out exactly where he declared resource control dead and powers centralized unlike Ironsi 's in which it was clearly stated that the regions were abolished and the civil service unified. Gowon's state creation was a step of refederalization and a return of power to the federating units.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:42am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


You are mad for saying this nonsense. Ironsi I repeat did not abolish the regions it was Gowon that did, if you don't like it go and drink sniper or look for better ways to kick yourself. Thanks God for social media some lies are now being challenged, even if he was Yoruba or Igbo it will not change what I am just saying right now to you. I can argue this all year with you and my stand will not change Gowon abolished regions and not Ironsi... ... QED
You are an idiot and a victim of moronic plague for starting an exchange of insults you can't sustain. I said it here from the beginning that it is easier for the eye of a Carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an average Igbo person to remain disciplined enough to participate in a debate without resorting to abusive language especially when he begins to lose the debate. Aren't I vindicated now? Idiot defending a blunder because it was committed by his brother! Shameless ethnic bigot!
My only pain now is that the mods will not see it now that it was you who started with abusive language but will come and just suspend one arbitrarily.

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Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Irony1: 11:02am On Dec 09, 2023
Deadlytruth:

You are an idiot and a victim of moronic plague for starting an exchange of insults you can't sustain. I said it here from the beginning that it is easier for the eye of a Carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an average Igbo person to remain disciplined enough to participate in a debate without resorting to abusive language especially when he begins to lose the debate. Aren't I vindicated now? Idiot defending a blunder because it was committed by his brother! Shameless ethnic bigot!
My only pain now is that the mods will not see it now that it was you who started with abusive language but will come and just suspend one arbitrarily.

The irony is that you are the one who started this. I know it is too much for you to swallow that the Unitary decree actually reveals that ironsi didn't abolish regions, again on the issue of discipline, you rather are the one without discipline as you have lost your cool on so many occasions in reaponse to me, while I have maintained my cool, so you see bro you are highly indisciplined here, and the mods are justified suspending you, because your bigotry has been exposed, once again thank God for social media as some bigoted statements against igbos for years are now being challenged and exposed for the lies they are.
Oga go and rest you cannot win this, you are the bigot here, so go and rest abeg.

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