Joagbajee:

Firstly , if a man claim he is of God, we ought to judge his doctrine by Gods word. If he is found to be wantin the bible says to reject him. God didn't make us spiritual policemen. . . .

Joagbajee:
If a man "opens" a church with wrong motive. It is between him and God. But one thing is clear. Ministry is of the holy spirit . If God didn't send a man, he will lack the power to function. Besides ,he cant last there. People will soon leave him. People have problems and you can't solve their problem if you're not sent because the power is in the calling.

People can't be deceived for long. If people under him can't be helped and nourished , they will go to other pasture where they can be fed. But God didn't ordain us to be attacking ministers . Jesus is the one building his church. He knows what to do about false prophets. Some have their judgement in the now ,others later.

Joagbajee:
Paul addressed the issue of wrong motive in preaching.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Enigma:

Oyakhilome is found wanting, so we reject him! Finish.

Jesus and the apostles taught us to beware of false prophets and wolves in sheep clothing; we are also required to warn and to guard the members of the flock.

The same Paul rebuked quite a few people --- even mentioning them by name. And yes, we are happy if the gospel of Christ is preached by anyone. However, the prosperity "gospel" is NOT the gospel of Christ and its preachers can be decried from the very rooftops.

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Joagbajee:


Jesus and paul were prophets and apostles. Authority goes with their office.  It doesn't apply to . . .  

Enigma:

Authority goes with my office, the office I was ordained into by Jesus Christ Himself, to rebuke and expose the likes of Oyakhilome.

So by virtue of the authority of my office as given to me by Christ, I confirm and declare that Oyakhilome is a false teacher, heretic deceiver and fraud.

Barr rich:

What section of the criminal code are you quoting sir Enigma?

Zab:

OH! MANY PEOPLE ARE CARRIED AWAY WITH ANOINTING AND GIFTS. LET ME POSIT HERE THAT ANOINTING AND OPERATION OF GIFT HAS NO LINK TO THE REAL GREATNESS OF PASTOR.A LOT OF 'SO CALLED MEN OF GOD' HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST BUT OPERATE GIFTS . THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A PASTOR TAKING A MEMBER'S WIFE AND CLAIM IT DOESN'T MATTER.

NIGERIANS MUST OPEN THEIR EYES AND AND FLEE FROM 'IT DOESN'T MATTER ' PREACHERS WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN TITHES AND WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM MEMBERS. PASTORS PLEASE MAKE YOUR ELECTION AND CALLING SURE.

MOST PASTORS IN NIGERIA DON'T CALL A SPADE A SPADE. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT LADIES WEAR TO CHURCH. HOW MANY OF THEM CAN WEAR THOSE RUBBISH FOR A N INTERVIEW. BUT IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR MAKER THEY GO ALMOST Unclad.LovePeddler MONGERS IN CHURCH!

My friend only a bush-man will make such claims. How has the topic at hand claimed his respects to be attributed to his anointing and gifts ehn? We are talkin about a man whose simplistic approach to the word of God has earned so much transformation in peoples lives.

We are talking about a man whose approach to spiritual leadership defied the silly status quo placed by so called RELIGIOUS FATHERS of our time. Before his entry into the leadership platform we use to think and perceive that spiritual excellence and heights could only be achieved by how much one fast and pray or how much connected you are to "the grace of so called men of God".

This young lad as some call him, came into the fold with a message that heights and weights in the faith has nothing to do with all the things men esteemed so much but rather your openness and simplistic heart towards the things of God.

Pls think before you condemn!

Zab:

OH! MANY PEOPLE ARE CARRIED AWAY WITH ANOINTING AND GIFTS. LET ME POSIT HERE THAT ANOINTING AND OPERATION OF GIFT HAS NO LINK TO THE REAL GREATNESS OF PASTOR.A LOT OF  'SO CALLED MEN OF GOD' HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST BUT OPERATE GIFTS . THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A PASTOR TAKING A MEMBER'S WIFE AND CLAIM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
NIGERIANS MUST OPEN THEIR EYES AND AND FLEE FROM 'IT DOESN'T MATTER ' PREACHERS WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN TITHES AND WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM  MEMBERS. PASTORS PLEASE MAKE YOUR ELECTION AND CALLING SURE.
MOST PASTORS IN NIGERIA DON'T CALL A SPADE A SPADE. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT LADIES WEAR TO CHURCH. HOW MANY OF THEM CAN WEAR THOSE RUBBISH FOR A N INTERVIEW. BUT IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR MAKER THEY GO ALMOST Unclad.LovePeddler MONGERS IN CHURCH!

Enigma:

Authority goes with my office, the office I was ordained into by Jesus Christ Himself, to rebuke and expose the likes of Oyakhilome.

So by virtue of the authority of my office as given to me by Christ, I confirm and declare that Oyakhilome is a false teacher, heretic deceiver and fraud.

Enigma:


Read chapters 34-39 of the Nigerian Criminal Code.

By the way, what about the law of God - when a "pastor" deliberately refuses to return known stolen money/goods?

Joagbajee:

Hebrews 5:4
. .  And no man taketh this honour unto himself but he that is called of God. . .

Tonye-t:

My friend only a bush-man will make such claims. How has the topic at hand claimed his respects to be attributed to his anointing and gifts ehn? We are talkin about a man whose simplistic approach to the word of God has earned so much transformation in peoples lives.
We are talking about a man whose approach to spiritual leadership defied the silly status quo placed by so called RELIGIOUS FATHERS of our time. Before his entry into the leadership platform we use to think and perceive that spiritual excellence and heights could only be achieved by how much one fast and pray or how much connected you are to "the grace of so called men of God".
This young lad as some call him, came into the fold with a message that heights and weights in the faith has nothing to do with all the things men esteemed so much but rather your openness and simplistic heart towards the things of God.
Pls think before you condemn!

Joagbajee:

Hebrews 5:4
. .  And no man taketh this honour unto himself but he that is called of God. . .

Enigma:

^^^ He (and his organisation) received stolen money and stolen goods; worse, he pointedly refused to return the stolen money/goods.

In Nigerian law, that is a criminal offence.

In the eyes of God . . . . ?

Enigma,

If this is the only reason you have for condemning the man then its really so unfair.

As far as I know, justice will only have its course on this man if he was in consent with the 'money-stealers' before the crime was committed. Else every so called man of God in Nigeria will/should be accused of such.

I say this because, virtually 6 out of every 10 subjects in a religious gathering who give offerings did so from fraudulent means. How do you expect the men of God to be accused if the criminals are caught.

Ok I hear you saying he should have returned the money. Damn! this is about the weakest opinion one will ever suggest. You know why? because If it were so, then every thief when caught should be made to bring out everyone who ate from his stolen money and be made to pay and that should include the guy the thief bought his shirt from, the woman he bought pepper from, the aboki he paid for polishing his shoes and the endless list.

How dumb would that sound?

Enigma:

It applies to Oyakhilome as much as it applies to me!  
Meanwhile, I haven't yet forgotten the fake "PhD"!
Fake "anointing"; fake "ordination", fake "PhD".
Shiọọọọọ!

Enigma:

It applies to Oyakhilome as much as it applies to me!  

Joagbajee:

Quote it out na .  You want him to read it in secret? Let us read it too? We make open posts here sir.

Where in the law of God? Please quote it out. Thanks.

Revolva:

@poster

You are a brainwahsed , follow follow nia dey do you, praising pastor chris as if he created the world, who gives a bleep if he is holy,  an na the one wey we see for ouside we go talk, all men are sinners that what the same Bible tells you, no matter how holy you potray your self, hiss do you know if he is visiting Babalawo to get is Power, who knows, yo are here wasting your praises on man,

Your type is easily fooled and washed

. . . sounded like you werent done sucking your mummy's breast before writing this. . . couldnt even understand a thing here

Joagbajee:

Which church do you attend? Where do you fellowship?  And why are you not afraid to use Gods name to lie.How did you receive the call? You think this is a joke?

Enigma:


It will be over your head! You who don't know the meaning of "escape" --- which for you means Jesus was running helter-skelter! Or that Jesus was hiding under the bed and under the table!

You think you can read and understand statutory provisions? You don't know your limits! Just keep to deceiving people of their money; if the other fellow is truly a lawyer, he will understand me and know what to do --- at least I'd expect him to

zalak45:

Has any1 ever kissed a man's Bottom this much. wow!

This last time i checked Yes! and guess who i saw? . . . i saw you doing so on Satan's bottom

Tonye-t:

My friend only a bush-man will make such claims. How has the topic at hand claimed his respects to be attributed to his anointing and gifts ehn? We are talkin about a man whose simplistic approach to the word of God has earned so much transformation in peoples lives.

We are talking about a man whose approach to spiritual leadership defied the silly status quo placed by so called RELIGIOUS FATHERS of our time. Before his entry into the leadership platform we use to think and perceive that spiritual excellence and heights could only be achieved by how much one fast and pray or how much connected you are to "the grace of so called men of God".

This young lad as some call him, came into the fold with a message that heights and weights in the faith has nothing to do with all the things men esteemed so much but rather your openness and simplistic heart towards the things of God.

Pls think before you condemn!
You have disingenuously deflected the Channel 4 article/video by Seyi Rhodes.In case you missed it here it is again;  
Local journalist Simon Ateba says it's almost impossible to establish their true wealth. Simon takes the team to the headquarters of Christ Embassy. He claims that two years ago when he tried to take photographs of the building, security guards dragged him inside and beat him until he fainted. Soon after he tells this story, security guards drag Rhodes into the building by his belt. He escapes unscathed.

Why would any so called man of God be so scared of his own shadow he won't even let pictures of his church be taken?What is he hiding or hiding from?The answer is not far fetched,your jerry curled pastor is a fraud & like a true scammer,secrets of the trade must not be divulged,exposed or disseminated.

Enigma:

Tell us where Oyakhilome got his "PhD" and I will tell you about my church.  

What is this PhD sef?is a postgraduate academic degree awarded by universities.

The academic level of degrees known as doctorates of philosophy varies considerably according to the country, institution, and time period, from entry-level research degrees to higher doctorates.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy

Pls understand the variations as stated by the writer ^^  

Joagbajee:

You seem to be the one looking for table to hide under right now. Your lies have caught up with you.

There is a difference between a LAWYER and a "CHARGE AND BAIL!"

cold:

You have disingenuously deflected the Channel 4 article/video by Seyi Rhodes.In case you missed it here it is again;  
Local journalist Simon Ateba says it's almost impossible to establish their true wealth. Simon takes the team to the headquarters of Christ Embassy. He claims that two years ago when he tried to take photographs of the building, security guards dragged him inside and beat him until he fainted. Soon after he tells this story, security guards drag Rhodes into the building by his belt. He escapes unscathed.

Why would any so called man of God be so scared of his own shadow he won't even let pictures of his church be taken?What is he hiding or hiding from?The answer is not far fetched,your jerry curled pastor is a fraud & like a true scammer,secrets of the trade must not be divulged,exposed or disseminated.

Enigma:

Have you now learned the meaning of "escape"? Does the statement "Jesus escaped" still mean, to you, that Jesus "ran away", that Jesus ran helter skelter?
Did your own "Jesus" hide ---- under the table, under the bed, under the pulpit?

Enigma:

Tell us where Oyakhilome got his "PhD" and I will tell you about my church.  

Joagbajee:

What does criminal code say about offerings in church dude.?

Joagbajee:
What does the law of God say about a pastor refunding money given in church?

@ Tonye-t

The topic of Pastor Chris is very subjective and it depends upon each individual to judge the impact he has on them.

I respect your view of this man and you are wholly entitled to your opinion.

As for me, I just don't subscribe to the type of "personality cult"  built around him that seems to elevate him more than Christ. However, it's another debate on how much control he has on the elevation bestowed on him. He might be innocent and he might enjoy the ego massaging.

I dis-agree with a notion in your last paragraph in which you state that ", he is impacting more lives than all the business people and the world presidents put together".

To me that is a sentimental statement because there are lots of Business people who make impacts in the world, it all depend on your definition of "impact".
Steve jobs has impacted more lives with his "I" brand and Bill gates, in my opinion, impacts more lives with his  humanitarian acts which is evident on his foundation's website.

Finally, I respect your view of the man, however, I personally refuse to give so much deference to any "MAN", pastor or business man, GOD is the only the entity in which I give so much adoration and respect.  While I respect the humbleness exhibited by Christ during his lifetime as described in the bible.

Cheers.