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Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Angy55(f): 9:00pm On Jan 17 |
Jeboy:Exactly! |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by NovusHomo(m): 10:36pm On Jan 17 |
Nice2023: ...if you don't get kidnapped or suffer some other deadly violence. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by milky3(f): 11:43pm On Jan 17 |
House hunting is the most terrible thing I have been doing since last year, in Lagos with the outrageous A/C buahaha |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 4:50am On Jan 18 |
Shikena: We are practicing capitalism. A groundnut seller will double the price because dollar rate increased, you import am? The groundnut seller has to buy items in the market which is patronised by other well-to-do folks. The groundnut seller has to buy fuel to power his devices. The groundnut seller also buys food items in the market, which has seen their prices soared as a result of Fulani herdsmen activities. A vehicle importer will ship a car to Nigeria & some idiots will add all sorts of ridiculous costs making it impossible to sell at affordable price. Please check up on the price to clear a car in Nigeria. Buying a second hand car abroad is relatively cheap, and even cheaper with car loans, shipping and CLEARING are expensive. Also, the naira has devalued significantly against the dollar. Should car importers not recoup their investments? Someone will build rental properties with his sweat & many are lining up for their share each time a lease is done, all the cost is transferred to the renter. Nothing stops you from building yours and dealing directly with the tenants. It is a free world. You have the right to choose, not the right to dictate. We are our own worst enemies. Greedy fools. No one is your enemy. Also, please know that humans are naturally greedy. It is a human trait. Even hens get greedy, especially as resources get scarcer. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 4:52am On Jan 18 |
Akinpresident: Salaries are terribly low in the east, and corporate jobs are largely nonexistent. Higher salaries = higher house rents. How Nigerians don't know is astonishing. The way economics is taught in schools is very bad. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:01am On Jan 18 |
jmoore: You dey mind them. Unless the person works far from the parent's house, it makes no sense to leave there to rent elsewhere (provided parent-child relationships are amiable). One lady on TwitterNG narrated how a friend of hers stayed with his parents for ten years while working. During this period, he saved, invested, and diversified. In his 30s, he was able to afford a $1M property in a high-brow area of Los Angeles. For those who even run their own businesses, leaving home and renting elsewhere does not make sense. I saw a post on Facebook asking ladies to choose between a man who earns N150K per month vs another who runs his family's business and stays in the parent's house. The majority chose the former. That is how men begin to spend more than they earn. As it is, I am quite fortunate that nothing concerns me with constructing a house, as my parents already did that. So imagine I go set up a business for Nigeria; I would be cajoled to rent elsewhere meanwhile, I could be rent-free for 5 years +. 1 Like |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:01am On Jan 18 |
aspabay: When the houses are renovated, do they get renovated with 2001 prices or 2024 prices? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:06am On Jan 18 |
Princewill1: While this makes sense, there are certain industries/fields that require you as a freelancer to reside where the movers and shakers/likeminds stay. For that reason, many choose to remain where the opportunities are except you are extremely good at what you do, prefer solitude as an individual and don't intend to go entrepreneurial. A smart software engineer can decide to live in Ibadan or Ogun to access the Lagos scene. This is where Nigerian policymakers should invest in infrastructure so people can live in Jericho and work in Jerusalem without feeling the brunt. The same applies to living in Aba or Yenegoa while accessing the Port-harcourt scene. But anywhere more than a 2 hour drive is pointless. However, should these people decide to go entrepreneurial, they would have to mingle with people in the industry in the major cities. 1 Like |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:08am On Jan 18 |
Walkat9t: What is the economic scene in Benin to warrant these prices? I am curious. I understand the place of inflation, but that Airport Road area, are the roads there tarred? Security nko? Electricity supply? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:11am On Jan 18 |
wunmi590: You have stated why one area has its rents at 250K, while the other at 500K. As you can see, there are nuances to these things. That Lagos Island area with 200K has high insecurity, is not fit for a family to raise properly behaved children, is noisy, dirty, untarred roads etc. I am willing to bet one or more of those reasons I listed make that place has a self-contain for 200K. That is not "value for your money". |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:12am On Jan 18 |
Kenzboi1: Surulere is a nice area in Lagos. It is logical for rents to be high there, especially for corporate workers in VI, Ikoyi and Lekki. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:13am On Jan 18 |
ceejay80s: He buys the same items as you do in the same market. Should his income not increase? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:27am On Jan 18 |
MasterTeeUSA: My advice to tenants...you do not have to rent alone...You can rent Two Bedroom for N550k and share with someone...you can do the same for 3 bedrooms..rent for N700k and split the rent 3 ways...that is how it is done in sane countries...where 6 people live in the same house and share kitchen and restroom...you won't even share restrooms in Nigeria. This is the reality we are headed to. The days of renting and bringing in everyone from the village is almost over... maybe people will have less children now given this reality. My take Nigerians are largely dishonest, change the goalpost in the middle of the game and don't stick to agreement. They are also diabolical and fetish. There is no rule of law to fall back on so people do things anyhow. Before sharing with someone, one needs to be very discerning and investigative till the very end. Hopefully, they learn to understand the bold because they like to have flenty children because children are blessings from God🙄 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:31am On Jan 18 |
Pinkybush: I dare say a good apartment in an OK area in Uyo and Eket has higher rates on a per capita basis than Lagos considering that Lagos has more economic opportunities than Akwa Ibom. Unless a young graduate runs his/her business or lives in his/her parent's house, it makes sense to leave the state to economically viable states to find work. Like the 25-year-old lady I was told making a killing selling s£x toys and lives in Ewet Housing. Nothing would concern her with moving to Lagos. To go and do what? 2 Likes |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 5:36am On Jan 18 |
Procashtips: Then, you increase your income or lower your standards. That is how it is all over the world. You want to eat big fish, but decline to pay the price. Most immigrants do that the first time they get into a country - move to less expensive areas and commute. As their incomes increase, they move to desirable areas. On the other hand, you improve your skill set so you can command high wages from employers. That is what my friend and a Kenyan did. They live in a place populated by upper middle-class Japanese far away from the city centre. The rents are high, but they live comfortably because their salaries are equally high because of their superior computer programming skills. Life is not fair. Don't expect it to be. Life is hardddddd Also, I am sure that N1-1.5M is not for Central Ikeja. Maybe Ogudu and dem Ogba axis. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 6:09am On Jan 18 |
pacespot: Typical communist-loving Nigerian, only when it comes to another man's investment. Why should the government dictate to me how to spend MY MONEY?! Is it your money? Did I work for the government to take my money away from me?! Interestingly, you did not advise the government to construct public housing, which is where the govt will have the power to do whatever it likes. Rather, you want the government to dictate to private citizens what to use and how to use their money. Who the fvck are you to dictate to a private citizens how much s/he should rent a house? P.S. There is no place ANYWHERE in the world where the government dictates to landlords how to price their houses/apartments. None whatsoever! The last time it was tried in Berlin by the foolish city council, real estate investors stopped investing, and landlords stopped letting out their apartments. What was the end result? Prices shot up more before the stoopid policy was enshrined. So be careful about what you wish for. If you want to practice your low-budget socialism and communism, do so with your investments and assets. Share it with everyone around you. You get to choose, not to dictate. P.S. Tinubu cancelled the proposed commodity pricing boards for agricultural products. As a crony capitalist that he is, I am glad he knows better than you who believes the govt has the right to dictate to private citizens how to spend their money. Imagine the effrontery! 1 Like |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 6:16am On Jan 18 |
Procashtips: This is a lie! Ikeja, Surulere, Yaba and environs are some of the choicest places on the mainland because they are close to economic hubs within the state and a short distance to VI and environs where most corporate jobs are situated. The likes of Ikorodu and Epe will witness the same if the 4th Mainland Bridge is completed and/or ferry services are abundant and safe. For crying out loud, Lagos is Nigeria's most populous state with the biggest economy while also the SMALLEST state. Is 1 + 1 = 11 in your village? Can't you see why prices are high?! Price of whatever you buy got nothing to do with you charging same amount charged by a 3 star apartment when you're a 1 star apartment. Sorry, but this is a stoopid point. So, the landlord who goes to the same market as a wealthy landlord is not affected by the increment in prices of goods and services? It's like a room at a 2 star hotel trying to charge same amount with a 4 star hotel. It's simply logic which shouldn't be hard to decipher. Then don't lodge in any of the hotels. Go to where your money can afford. That is the beauty of capitalism: it offers you the right and ample opportunity to choose. However, you don't have the right to dictate. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 6:17am On Jan 18 |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 6:19am On Jan 18 |
Jeboy: Nigerians rarely share apartments with strangers. So, that point does not hold. P.S. No one lives comfortably sharing an apartment. People do so because their incomes cannot afford them places to live alone. When the desirable is unavailable, the available becomes the desirable. Sharing an apartment is not comfortability. You people should stop comparing the rent situation abroad to Nigeria. It makes no economic sense. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 6:21am On Jan 18 |
kilode100: How many non-banking or non-government parastatal jobs pay entry level graduates at least 100K per month in the whole of Akure? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Gerrard59(m): 7:02am On Jan 18 |
Maybe in other cities, but not Lagos. I see the tech bros as a major factor especially in the Yaba axis. Lagos is Nigeria's populous state yet smallest and has the biggest economy. So, why won't there be increment in house prices? To solve the housing shortage problem anywhere is relatively simple: - Increase the supply of land and ease the process of building houses/apartments. The government should also go into public housing provision. That is what the Singapore government does. After COVID, property prices ballooned because of WFH policies, returning Singaporeans from abroad, people who emigrated from Hong Kong because of kini kon CCP laws, rising costs of labour as most workers moved back to their home countries, rising costs of building materials because of supply chain backlog from COVID etc. Expectedly, citizens complained and the government rose to action by easing border rules for construction workers and investing massively into newer PUBLIC housing developments. On the other hand, she released new lands to private developers while also increasing the taxes on those who purchased more than one property. The government also increased the tax rates on foreigners who purchased properties and closed loopholes. As I write, house rents have declined considerably compared to 2022 levels. It is not magic, but specific government policies. - In Hong Kong, prices plummeted as many foreigners emigrated for various reasons. The government still had to invest in PUBLIC housing developments to satisfy the demands of younger Hong Kongers, especially as housing is tied to marriage, which is tied to fertility rates. But because the HK City Council generates hooge revenues from land sales, the government has not reduced the prices, unlike its counterpart in Singapore. However, compared to pre-COVID, house prices have declined significantly. To prop up demand, the government has eased immigration rules. P.S. None of those governments DICTATED or stipulated to private developers the prices they should peg to lease their properties like our resident Karl Marxes argue, foolishly as expected anyway. Dictating to private developers how to price their rented properties has not worked anywhere in the world. To solve Lagos housing issues, again, it is simple: - Lagos MUST build UP. It is Nigeria's smallest state with the biggest economy and the most populous. That is more than enough to warrant consistent and increasing demand for apartments. - High-speed railways to Ogun, Oyo and even Osun states. Everyone must not live in Lagos itself. Well-tarred roads leading to train/metro hubs so that commuters can easily and quickly move from Point A to Point B. Make driving, especially personal cars/vehicles, expensive within Lagos itself. Upgrade and privatise the water ferry transport systems. Insist on safety, cleanliness, punctuality and efficiency. - Other states should be opened up economically so that the majority of young Nigerians don't have to move to Lagos to begin their nascent careers. States like Delta, Edo, Ogun, Oyo, Ebonyi, Bayesla, Cross River, Benue, Nasarawa, Niger, Kaduna, Plateau, and even the unfortunate Kogi should and can be developed as commuter hubs for residents. That is how it is easy in Japan, where most commuters live in Chiba and Saitama but work in Tokyo. How is this possible? Trains! Are we so unintelligent in that part of the world that we cannot copy good things from others who have mastered them?! For those aforementioned states to become commuter zones, invest in infrastructure, especially roads and railways, and most importantly, in security. Again, these are simple policies. Nothing is hard here, as it is not rocket science. achimendy: Because fewer people are not building newer homes for tenants to rent. People rather build and offer as Airbnbs. The Airbnb phenomenon also affects house prices elsewhere in the world. Since private investors own those properties, the government cannot regulate them, so the government should invest in public housing. The Singapore government banned Airbnb in public housing. most of this landlord build their houses 10 to 8 years ago and are still increasing rent to the current rate landlords with new houses are charging, which is very bad. How is that bad? Is the landlord unaffected by the increase in goods and services in 2024? Is the value of 50K in 2013 the same as 50K in 2024? The very reason why landlords with older homes can increase their prices to compete with newer ones is supply and demand. I already covered supply above. If the demand for residential properties remains consistently high, basic and elementary economics says there would be a corresponding increase in the prices of properties regardless of their ages. And most of the times the house is not in good shape. And if the shape is renovated to 2024 standards, should the landlord lease them on 2013 prices because the property was built in 2013? Is the price of cement in 2013 the same as that in 2024? What about the wages of construction workers? Am a real estate agent, sometimes I do quarrel with this landlords because of this issue. To me it's pure wickedness. It is not wickedness but basic economic principles and concepts. Nigerians have this attitude of using words anyhow. Wickedness is when the landlord outrightly refuses to lease the property even after offered millions. Looking at it again, that is not wickedness because the landlord has the right to choose whether or not his property should be rented out. If you want to be kind with your properties, it is very simple. Go out there to build houses and rent them out however you like. That is the beauty of capitalism: you choose what to do. Hopefully, you and many others get to practice what you people have mendaciously preached in this thread. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Procashtips(m): 7:20am On Jan 18 |
Gerrard59: You jumped on a discussion you never understood the context in which some of the points were made. I want to ask you. What do you think my comment was addressing? I rather be sure you understood my points before wasting time responding to what you wrote above. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Procashtips(m): 7:22am On Jan 18 |
Gerrard59: You're a typical Nigerian who loves to argue out of context. Is this a comprehension issue? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by kilode100(f): 8:02am On Jan 18 |
Gerrard59: Akute is almost like ojodu berger. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by wegevv: 10:02am On Jan 18 |
Gerrard59: Beautifully written Growing up is realising many, if not most, Nigerians are communists who haven’t even ever considered the basic economic impact of their views |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by Nice2023(m): 10:55am On Jan 18 |
NovusHomo: No doubt we may have problems in the country,but how many times have u been kidnapped? American has more crime per seconds than Nigeria and that doesn't mean that we aren't making progress as a people. |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by chaberry(m): 5:51am On Jan 21 |
Nazgul:I never mentioned Abakaliki. In live in New Bussa, Niger state |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by mimicherry: 12:03pm On Jan 26 |
morgan100:I have one in jikwoyi... Are you interested? |
Re: House Rent In This Country Is Nothing To Write About by NovusHomo(m): 12:25am On Feb 22 |
Nice2023: How many times have I been kidnapped? Na wah o . So I need to be kidnapped to know or talk about sefety in Nigeria? O ti da. |
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