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Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:06pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:for something to be "intangible" you are already contrasting it with the tangible, your god should be above both of it |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:06pm On Feb 16 |
KnownUnknown: Not that I subscribe to the concept of omnipotence, but where anyone subscribes to it, it should not suggest the absurd or illogical. Nothing in reality can be illogical. Thus omnipotence cannot extend to something such as creating a square circle. Enough. Your misplaced and unintelligent sarcasm is not interesting. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by KnownUnknown: 3:07pm On Feb 16 |
PoliteActivist: Lmao, maybe the absolute intangible was absolutely bored and decided to be absolutely creative thereby creating an absolutely intangible “root element of existence” where the universe came from. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:10pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: I hear you. And I get. However when I say intangible I am expressing the idea of a formless being. It's not just invisible or non material. It's beyond that. That is why I said "absolute intangible." Someone on this board, PastorAIO, once brilliantly described it as "the tipping point to nothingness." It's ineffable. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by KnownUnknown: 3:10pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight: Your misplaced and unintelligent musings are amusing though. More please. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by PoliteActivist: 3:11pm On Feb 16 |
KnownUnknown: That's an idea, but absolute intangibles don't get bored. Boredom is anthropomorphic |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:13pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:so this thing is a being? |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:13pm On Feb 16 |
PoliteActivist: This doesn't prevent it from having consequences of its existence - see my post to you above at 2.30pm. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by KnownUnknown: 3:15pm On Feb 16 |
PoliteActivist: How many absolute intangibles have you encountered? Maybe the absolute intangible was intangibly bored. Boredom is anthropomorphic and so are gods therefore it follows that the Absolute Intangible was bored. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:16pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: Truth is I don't know. It could be. And it could also be an impersonal force. There is, however, as I said somewhere above, considerable philosophy and science which is tending towards the idea that consciousness is fundamental to reality. That consciousness forms reality and not the other way round. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:16pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:or it could be a non-being? |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by KnownUnknown: 3:17pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: No, it’s intangible and self existing. Also invisible and whatever else he pulls out of his ass. 1 Like |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:19pm On Feb 16 |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:22pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: I don't understand this term. What is a non being? |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:25pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:nothingness, hindus call it śūnya, where you get your zero from. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by KnownUnknown: 3:27pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight: C’mon! You know what a non being is! It’s the same as your bullshit below: DeepSight: It’s the hallmark of your particular brand of bullshit, to wit negative definitions: consisting in or characterized by the absence rather than the presence of distinguishing features. e.g. immaterial, intangible, and of course “non being”. 1 Like |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by PoliteActivist: 3:28pm On Feb 16 |
FRANCISTOWN: *Politeness* *Terribly sorry, I'll reply the rest later. Business calls DeepSight, LordReed, KnownUnknown, HellVictorinho6, FxMasterz, jaephoenix, maynman, hopefullandlord *continuing About hypnosis, one video shows a man hypnotized whereby he couldn't remember his name. The other shows a man hypnotized where he couldn't recognize his friend and the fact he was under hypnosis was wiped from his mind whereby he didn't know he was ever hypnotized. The point is that a fellow human being can take control of a person's mind without the person knowing they are under control of anything. If a mere human can do that... About other stuff, you say you remain unimpressed until anyone can provide irrefutable proof. Well, there iis no irrefutable proof about anything in our reality including it's very existence. Everything is based on preponderance of circumstantial evidence.
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Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:37pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: Zero really refers to nothingness, but the element I struggle to describe is not nothingness, and nothingness in fact does not exist. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:39pm On Feb 16 |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:43pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:for you to have existence, you need non existence, and vice versa. there was never a time that there was not both. so this your god, a being didnt create existence, and it is a part of it just like the whole existence. so what exactly did this god create or MADE, and why is this god needed? |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 3:46pm On Feb 16 |
PoliteActivist: STop mentioning me 4 this rubbish U refused to fetch me space at the table...thatz what mataz. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 3:49pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: Nonsense |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 3:51pm On Feb 16 |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by DeepSight(m): 3:55pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: The trouble is, you are using "non-existence" in a rather oxymoronic way - in a way that suggests that non existence is some peculiar type of existence. Contradictory. As to your second paragraph, it's confusing enough, but all I can say is that from my point of view, that being which is worshipped as "God" - Yahweh, Allah, etc - by most people - is probably a being best understood as existing within an already existent reality - and not the ultimate source or root of existence. It may even be a created being. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 4:00pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:the trouble is you think this your god is an entity standing somewhere outside space and time and intangible and invisible and formless etc, and creating 'existence'. i am only saying existence is the opposite of non existence, just like front and back. non existence is needed for existence, just like 0 is needed for one. even in the genesis story, yahweh meant the deep, FORMLESS and void, tohu and bohu, before he MADE heavenS and the earth. also the, non being--nothingness is worshipped as GOD by the hindus. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 4:01pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: Just trying 2 prove ur shit, aint u? I know this must end in another attempt to diss by you. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 4:02pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:nothing can be "created" it can only be MADE. everything you need is already in existence. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 4:05pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: Like..... Nuff said Imagine the comparison |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 4:05pm On Feb 16 |
HellVictorinho6:the mind only works in duality. |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 4:08pm On Feb 16 |
Mayntheemaynn: U dont speak 4 the mind |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by Mayntheemaynn: 4:09pm On Feb 16 |
HellVictorinho6:or you mean you dont think for the mind? |
Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by HellVictorinho6(m): 4:11pm On Feb 16 |
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