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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Alex80s(m): 11:10am On Mar 31
There is nothing like Karma!!! Our corrupt politicians take oath of office with either Bible or Koran and their generation keep enjoying their loot...

More over, prayers for forgiveness doesn't work. Generally, prayers does not solve human problems. The confusion is the Masses that see it as opium of the Masses...
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Mandesz(m): 11:12am On Mar 31
Bbgbs23:
Leaving APUGA to PDP then to LP and then to SDP. Without nothing to show.
your mumu never do?
Congratulations for saying something!
#bushman

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Bbgbs23: 11:13am On Mar 31
Mandesz:
your mumu never do?
Congratulations for saying something!
#bushman

The question is. As I no mention your papa. Why are you pained.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by IDERAWOLE(m): 11:13am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Thank God you confirmed that the Bible mentioned nothing about Karma.

The Bible is recognized as two dispensations; Before Christ and After Christ.

The Bible is better appreciated and understood along these dispensations. Without these distinctions of the two dispensations, the Bible will be at best historical book and the more you read the more confused you become.

Before Christ; what you sow is what you reap.

After the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus; what you sow is not what you reap. There's forgiveness in Christ Jesus; not just because you begged for it after commiting any sin, but because you have a lawyer who's perpetually standing for you when you have committed any offence.

Now, this is where a lot of people get confused about this Grace in Christ Jesus, and you also expressed the same confusion in your question at the end of your post here.

"Will God continue to forgive sins forever"? The answer is Yes. How? You may ask. When Christ becomes the Lord of your Life, your mind, the seat of your decision-making no longer yields to the devil as before or it's no longer under the control of the devil. You may make mistakes, consciously or unconsciously the Love of God overshadows your errors.

The followers of Karma philosophy don't know what we are talking about.

If you believe in Karma, you'll get Karma. If you believe in Grace, you'll enjoy grace.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Truvela: 11:15am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
You may be forgiven but the consequences are their to be faced. E.g When a person commits murder and asked forgiveness, God will forgive the person but the person will face the consequence. E.g being arrest and imprisoned.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Glithronix: 11:15am On Mar 31
"Karma is real."
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Solofresh2: 11:15am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
Karma is real.Even your Bible says "whatever a man sow,he shall reap" and that alone is an interpretation of karma.
Forget the just die for our sin saying. So a man kill his fellow human, are we going to say he is forgiven because Jesus died for our sins?No
Life is built on karma
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Lomprico2: 11:16am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Punishment for the sin.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Lomprico2: 11:18am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?

To avoid destruction
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Solofresh2: 11:18am On Mar 31
Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination
Oya what's the meaning of "What a man sow,he shall reap"
Is that not karma
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by naturefellow(m): 11:18am On Mar 31
God forgives sin, but man must suffer the consequences of his actions.
This is a universal law, a philosophy. All man must reap what he sows!
You sow weed, you get thorns. You sow a wheat, you get grain.

For instance, a man was caught stealing. But he repents and gets forgiven by God. The law against theft would still take its course on him. Forgiveness of the sin of stealing doesn't exonerate the consequences of the law.

Another example is fornication./adultery. The outcome is often unwanted pregnancy, a bastard, STD, social stigma, etc., regardless of whether the party is forgiven by God or not. God's forgiveness only clears the spiritual or heavenly consequences, but not the earthly of physical.

Finally, you supported an inept criminal in becoming the president of a country. And when the economy deteriorated and insecurity rose, you backtracked, realised your mistake and sought forgiveness from God. That doesn't save you from the harsh realities of a damned corrupt mandate.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Chydoohh: 11:19am On Mar 31
Kama is for you to learn your lessons, because forgiveness will not tell you how deep your offence was, but kamma will do. So in that case you will not try it again. Kamma ist a punishment, it does not kill, it keeps you alive to realise your mistakes. That's my opinion though.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Martinez39s(m): 11:20am On Mar 31
Karma is superstitious nonsense; this should be obvious. Karma is the refuge, hope and sigh of the powerless who wants justice but can't obtain it.

By human nature, if a man has the opportunity to exert justice and revenge, he usually seizes the opportunity. When the opportunity isn't there when he desires it to be, and those that seriously wronged him seem untouchable by any form of justice or comeuppance, his bitterness makes him wish something will happen to them. If he is superstitous, he then indulges the belief in karma.

Funnily enough, most of the people shouting karma won't hesitate to steal huge, life-changing money if they can get away with it, no matter the inconvenience done to the person at the receiving end. Are they not afraid of karma? People who yearn for karma against politicians will do nothing differently if they attain the same political position.

People should stop deceiving themselves.

grin grin

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by 2Radii: 11:24am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
God forgives u does not mean u won't suffer for ur sin..

Forgiven sin gives u salvation and reward for ur sin.
Unforgiven sin gives u not salvation and still ur sin wage is given
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by DropsMic(m): 11:29am On Mar 31
Damian911:
Simply put Karma works but is discriminatory cheesy
grin grin
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by aliyuthayo(m): 11:31am On Mar 31
Karma exist, and Almighty Allah is the Karma.
Let me explain, there are two type of sins, one is the one we commit against Allah and the other we commit against fellow humans.
Almighty Allah only forgive the sins you commit to him, but the ones you commi to a fellow humans, you'll need to make restitution to the person you erred, before Almighty Allah can forgive you, if you don't, that's when KARMA comes in.

MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by LeyeWrites: 11:33am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
The consequences of sin is death.

You'll be freed from that.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by felixdanielthed(m): 11:36am On Mar 31
Karma is natural law of life, whatever you sow, you shall reap.. which is replicable in all religions & life itself and it only escapable if only God intervenes. Only God can break the complexity of life.. The earth is a feminine godness so becareful, how you treat life, the powers of sowing and reaping are at her reach, beckon & control.. There are two entitles in control God and Life itself. God is the creator of Life, but Life itself has it own will and nature cause and effect; which as human it beyond our control.And yields us to submission.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by FxMasterz: 11:38am On Mar 31
The answer is in the story of David who killed Uriah and married his wife Bathsheba.

When God sent Nathan the prophet to him to reprimand him, he asked for forgiveness. God forgave him and gave him lesser consequences to face for the sin.

This teaches us that we may still face some lesser consequences of our sins depending on the gravity of the wickedness involved.

The story can be found in 2 Samuel Chapters 11 - 12.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Highbee13(m): 11:44am On Mar 31
that's the consequence of the sin. You will be forgiven but still face the nemesis of the sin after forgiveness. Depending on how big or small the sin is.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by ScamDemicEra: 11:44am On Mar 31
... the soul that sinneth, it shall die Ezekiel 18:4 (KJV)
.... wages of sin is death (Roman 6.23) i.e death to the soul, not physical death (everyone dies physical death).
Forgiveness is being saved from death (eternal damnation) not from the consequences of the sin here on earth.

E.G
if Tinubu were to genuinely repent today -ditch the occult, resign and return all looted money from Federal/Lagos state government- the Lord will forgive him.
However the Lord is not obligated to prevent the next government, EFCC from sending him to jail OR even some of his fellow satanist who have a grudge from killing him.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by okparea(m): 11:45am On Mar 31
Karma is the consequences of your deed.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Emmanuel30a2: 11:46am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
You never learns...
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by sylve11: 11:48am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Galatians 6:7 cool
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Adakintroy: 11:49am On Mar 31
Karma is a neutral term for what.goes around comes around good or bad.

God himself set this laws in motion to check things from moving too extreme. If you do good good comes to you. You don't complain of good karma. Don't complain of bad one either. Worry about what you do instead.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by marimarempress: 11:49am On Mar 31
Karma isn't associated with christianity

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by sylve11: 11:53am On Mar 31
FxMasterz:
The answer is in the story of David who killed Uriah and married his wife Bathsheba.

When God sent Nathan the prophet to him to reprimand him, he asked for forgiveness. God forgave him and gave him lesser consequences to face for the sin.

This teaches us that we may still face some lesser consequences of our sins depending on the gravity of the wickedness involved.

The story can be found in 2 Samuel Chapters 11 - 12.

God cannot be mocked. cool

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by marvrick: 11:55am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?v

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Here are my thoughts
Sin is transpression of God's law. Once committed one is guilty of breaking God's law and hence is cut off from God's presence, grace, mercy etc. And that soul is doomed for eternal separation from God which is the worst fate for anyone.

Forgiveness therefore is an act of mercy God provides to save the doomed soul from eternal separation. It comes either with the consequences of the transgression (karma) or without consequences.

It is evident then that while one can and should bear karma whenever it chooses to occur, same cannot be said of forgiveness whose lack places one in eternal danger.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Glory018(f): 11:56am On Mar 31
Karma is the punishment you must face even though God has forgiven you.

Though it doesn’t apply to all.God might choose not to punish you after he has forgiven you.

The punishment would bring you closer to God and eventually makes you avoid that sin completely

The punishment would taste your faith if you are truly sorry for the sin you committed.

The way you respond to karma would either bring more curses or blessings to you.

In everything glorify the lord and do not curse God.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by dgagar(m): 11:57am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?



We seek forgiveness from God, the creation of the world and he do forgive us. But Karma doesn't forgive.
Karma is Nature. You will surely reap whatever you sow as far as you it consine.

That's why is good to be doing good.
Nature is watching and it doesn't forgive and forget

Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by soccerlite: 11:58am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Which verse is this?
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by sylve11: 12:01pm On Mar 31
Glory018:
Karma is the punishment you must face even though God has forgiven you.

Though it doesn’t apply to all.God might choose not to punish you after he has forgiven you.

The punishment would bring you closer to God and eventually makes you avoid that sin completely

The punishment would taste your faith if you are truly sorry for the sin you committed.

The way you respond to karma would either bring more curses or blessings to you.

In everything glorify the lord and do not curse God.

Then it means God can be mocked. cool

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