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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by blingxx(m): 1:02pm On Mar 31
Amtasiu:


Meaning you are created by God to just eat and drink right?

Look around, the origin of religion and how it was forced upon your ancestors by slave traders, your religion is what you have ever known...So what do I know?
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Charly68: 1:03pm On Mar 31
Read Galatia 6:7 and Genesis 8:22 to know what Kama is all about. If you sow evil to the life of others ,you will surely harvest what you sow one day.
- Jacob decieved his father ,a time came that his own sons conspired to deceive him too..
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by BreconHills(m): 1:05pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Karma is real - the law of consequences. Or the law of sowing and reaping in the Torah which actually
predates Bhuddism.

Forgiveness and grace is real.

But

These are two distinct realms which can overlap depending on the choices a person makes.
The realm of grace is for those who have believed on the grace of God through Jesus and who are themselves living obedient and gracious lives towards all men.

The realm of karma is for all those who have 1. Not believed in the free gift of life through Jesus and who 2. instead want to live by their good deeds. Hoping that their good deeds will outweigh their bad deeds. It can even include those who have believed in God's free gift but who judge others mercilessly and without compassion.

I hope this helps.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by 247man: 1:31pm On Mar 31
Pray harder
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Fearurcreeator: 1:32pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?
You make heaven
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by ukelament(m): 1:33pm On Mar 31
THE BOOK OF GALATIANS 6:7, SAYS, 'THAT GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED, FOR WHATEVER A MAN SOWETH, THAT, HE SHALL REAP.' BUT, GOD CAN SHOW MERCY TO WHOEVER THAT HE WANTS TO SHOW MERCY. SO, IT IS VALID IF ANYONE ASKS FOR MERCY, BUT, YOU MUST MERIT IT. SO, TO BE ON A SAFE SIDE, REFRAIN FROM SIN.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by waldigit: 1:34pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
Genesis 8:22

Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
You can see from above the very foundation of our world is based on "karma".
So forgiveness is not a substitute for law of harvest. It's a compliment to it. If you do wrong you repent, the next step is to restitute, that is restore what you damage.
It's then you can escape the law of harvest. The one you call karma.
But one principle is distinct about God. He can decide that your descendants pay for your sins. This is because he doesn't deal with human in the physical alone.
You may pay for sin in hell while your descendants pay for the same sin in the physical while you yourself escape from it in the physical realm. We have a lot of instances in the Bible. But one thing is certain sinners would not go unpurnished except you repent and restitute.
This is why it's dangerous to commit some sins like murder that is difficult to restitute . See examples of close people to God such as David, Apostle Paul, even the Lord Jesus Christ inherited the curse of the house of David.
Apostle Paul taught about sin unto death. God may destroy the body so that He can save the soul. That's why we are always shock about some high profile sudden death in our mist. My God help to know more about him.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Earthquakes: 1:39pm On Mar 31
magoo10:
God forgives our sins if we ask for forgiveness and truly repent and make total change from our sinful lives.
As we know living without sin in this world is not easy ,that is what keeps attracting people to karma.


Have you heard the saying “I will visit the fourth generation with the sins of their father”?
Just like every mistake has consequences so is your sin
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by triplechoice(m): 1:40pm On Mar 31
DropsMic:
Doesn’t exist.

If e dey exist, our politicians would be the most unfortunate people on the face of the earth.
If e dey exist, the descendants of those who participated in the transatlantic slave trade would be suffering today.

Also, prayers don’t work. If it did, Tinubu won’t be the president today.

Subconsciously we all know this these things, but for some reasons, na we believe in them pass.

Karma is the consequence of your actions and inactions. That's the true meaning of karma. It's not a punishment from a god as you understand it.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by LOVEGINO(m): 1:41pm On Mar 31
Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination
we confuse scatter.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by triplechoice(m): 1:43pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?

It's to absolve you of guilt. That's all.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by bobestman(m): 1:44pm On Mar 31
Karma is the law of nature. The law of the mother. It is the law that holds the earth together. It has nothing to do with your religions. It is the mother of them all. Anything you sow you will reap either on earth here or your next life. God forgives but it doesn't stop the consequences.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by mayim(m): 1:45pm On Mar 31
Karma for those who believe in it is a law of natural justice…. It’s not God driven. However, yes God forgives our sins but we can still bear the brunt of those actions. God will forgive you for killing or robbing a bank if you ask for forgiveness. But He won’t stop you from being arrested, prosecuted or even sent to jail. Except he decides to show you mercy, which is solely His own prerogative

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Cantonese: 1:51pm On Mar 31
shadrach77:
There is Karma and there is the forgiveness of God. God does forgive but you will still have to face the consequences of your misdeeds. That doesn't mean God hasn't forgiven you. E.g. a lady who commits fornication and gets pregnant 🤰 then asks God for forgiveness. God will forgive her but then she still has the pregnancy and the baby to cater for.

You gave the best illustration.

Thank you very much.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Damian911: 1:53pm On Mar 31
DropsMic:
grin grin
This isn't a joke karma is real but doesn't work against/for everyone
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by ebenholer2(m): 1:55pm On Mar 31
Karma does not exist in the record of God…what blood of Christ has done In nullifying all past sins is final and no body can hold that against us. However, what we experience is trial that accompanies our faith in Christ…
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by yeshuasfootstep(m): 1:55pm On Mar 31
Karma is reaping what is sown.

It has nothing to do with forgiveness because just like someone rightly said, it is universal constitution.

You can't harvest mango when you planted orange just because you changed your mind midway.

You can be forgiven for the mistake of planting orange, but you must reap your orange.

Then go ahead and plant mango if you wish.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Manager001: 2:01pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
Paul's life should be answer to your question
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Obycus: 2:09pm On Mar 31
There is nothing like complete forgiveness ok
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Screwcode1: 2:13pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks





Heaven belongs to God and his cohorts and angels,
Earth belongs to humans and our consciousness, God forgives when we sin but our conscience will still give us our karma
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by ValarDoharis: 2:15pm On Mar 31
God is not interested in gathering in a building pretending to be worshipping him. God is interested in your brotherly love to your neighbors.

Praising God means you acknowledge there's a competition btw God and another being. There's no competition, God is the only one, devil does not exist. Devil was created to scare people to work towards imaginary heaven
Amtasiu:


Meaning you are created by God to just eat and drink right?
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Testimonies777(m): 2:20pm On Mar 31
Heeeeee!!!! I laughed in English o❤️❤️❤️

DropsMic:
Doesn’t exist.

If e dey exist, our politicians would be the most unfortunate people on the face of the earth.
If e dey exist, the descendants of those who participated in the transatlantic slave trade would be suffering today.

Also, prayers don’t work. If it did, Tinubu won’t be the president today.

Subconsciously we all know this these things, but for some reasons, na we believe in them pass.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Boldideas: 2:31pm On Mar 31
Karma is as a result of your initiated move, it does not matter if you beg God for forgiveness or not. It is like throwing a stone, yes after you have thrown it you begged God for forgiveness but it doesn't stops the stone from coming down.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Image123(m): 2:38pm On Mar 31
Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination

Exactly. However, people do suffer consequences and reap the harvest of what they have done. i guess that is what many people confuse as karma or use karma as a synonym for.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Kingrshd3: 2:39pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?


Very contradictory statement or believe smh 🙁
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Kingrshd3: 2:40pm On Mar 31
Boldideas:
Karma is as a result of your initiated move, it does not matter if you beg God for forgiveness or not. It is like throwing a stone, yes after you have thrown it you begged God for forgiveness but it doesn't stops the stone from coming down.

Then God doesn't forgive u then
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Image123(m): 2:41pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?

If you buy something for someone and he misuses it, or you send someone to school and paid for it, and the fellow wasted the opportunity. You will be offended with the person. You can forgive the person, but that doesn't remove the consequences of what the person has done.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by brainhgeek(m): 2:43pm On Mar 31
Karma is unchristian
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Bluezy13(m): 2:46pm On Mar 31
Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination

Best thing I have read on Nairaland in a long while.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by sunsweet33: 2:50pm On Mar 31
This is a great question…hmm…following …

Unfortunately people are not reading your op well…you have already acknowledged that karma is not a Christian concept rather it is a Hindu or Buddhist one…

What you are asking is why people who profess to be Christians still believe so strongly it
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Taigaban: 2:51pm On Mar 31
God forgives in a large way, but such forgiveness does not sheild us from the consequences of our actions. We reap what we sow.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Akinomoakin021: 2:52pm On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?
Based on experience and lessons learnt from others. Karma is the fruit of a seed/seeds planted by people in your lineage/by you. It can be good/bad Karma. You can reverse the bad Karma by continuously planting good Karma. I mean doing good works intentionally. By that, a lot of bad Karma can be reversed with time.

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

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