Akanbi_edu:

What El-rufai did in Abuja is what Lagos needs now. But unlike Abuja, Lagos governors are elected. This is why its going to be a bit difficult for Fashola and ACN to go all out on implementing some of these things. A lot of our people are used to the government providing everything for them. Trying to change this mentality abruptly may cost the ACN elections so the approach has to be gradual.

Akanbi_edu:

What El-rufai did in Abuja is what Lagos needs now. But unlike Abuja, Lagos governors are elected. This is why its going to be a bit difficult for Fashola and ACN to go all out on implementing some of these things. A lot of our people are used to the government providing everything for them. Trying to change this mentality abruptly may cost the ACN elections so the approach has to be gradual.

Imagine if Fashola had cleared Oshodi when elections were around the corner? Oshodi looks better today and everybody can see it. In the same manner, people need to use the Lekki road, pay for services rendered and see a proper maintenance culture. Then they would be able to appreciate the idea. In the nearest future, I guess it won't be so difficult to convince them.

Coogar, I think Fashola knows what to do but just being gradual in the process. It takes a lot to change peoples' mentality, that should be obvious by even the comments from so called university graduates on this website. Some of then even live where they pay for almost every public service they get.

brainpulse:

University graduates were thought to think and make logical decisions, I know you are not a graduate because you dont think for yourself. Go and google the functions of Government and tell me the ones they are doing well. If you were elected by the pople and the same people says your policies are anti- social and anti-people then you av one choice to resign and not force your policies down the throat. How many times has the goverment come out to tell Nigerians that they will reduce the salaries of people in government all what they know is about there pockets. [size=15pt]With the increament of LASU school fees shows that Fashola is demonic[/size]

SEGAD:

@Akanbi_edu, can you please highlights those things government are providing for the people.

aribisala0:

i think Akanbi got it wrong this time.
Government provides next to nothing for the people

security
good roads
electricity
justice
healthcare

are the very basic things one would expect from a government. for a variety of reasons NO government in Nigeria is delivering on this.

On this toll gate issue. There is something very fishy about the government's approach to this whole saga.

They have clearly failed to consult with those affected by this decision.
The decision to enter such a long term contract with terms which are so unfavourable to the government raises so many questions.
Of particular interest is the question of why the government itself did not build this road and collect the toll itself. The cost of the road is relatively NOT that high.
This is the same area in which the free trade zone is located and so the government has an interest in this road.
How open an transparent was the process that led to the choosing of this company which from all indications has no track record.
Finally the proposed charges seem very high and the government has not managed this issue well in the media. i am afraid I am beginning to see some autocratic tendencies with this ACN group and I am doubtful that our salvation lies with them. we have to renew our search

Akanbi_edu:

Aribisala, Please lets separate the federal government from the state government on this issue.

Security: Even though security is largely in the hands of FG, lagosians can attest to the fact that security in Lagos has improved tremendously. 

Akanbi_edu:

Aribisala, Please lets separate the federal government from the state government on this issue.

Security: Even though security is largely in the hands of FG, lagosians can attest to the fact that security in Lagos has improved tremendously. Just that security is one of those things governments expend so much energy on that people hardly notice. It's only if they see a bomb may be once that everybody starts shouting. to put things in perspective, you needs to see statistics of crime rate in Lagos and analyse lets say from 1999 till date. You will surely see an improvement.

brb

Akanbi_edu:

Aribisala, Please lets separate the federal government from the state government on this issue.

Security: Even though security is largely in the hands of FG, lagosians can attest to the fact that security in Lagos has improved tremendously. Just that security is one of those things governments expend so much energy on that people hardly notice. It's only if they see a bomb may be once that everybody starts shouting. to put things in perspective, you needs to see statistics of crime rate in Lagos and analyse lets say from 1999 till date. You will surely see an improvement.

Electricity equally is in the hands of FG. The Nigerian law does not even permit transmission by private or state governments as we speak. All Lagos efforst in the past have been seriuosly hindered by the Nigerian statutes related to power generation, transmission and distribution. I believe you are quite aware of the Nigerian situation in this case. This statutes are basically motivated by national security concerns. For how long this will remain, I don't know.

Apart from security and Justice, others like roads, electricity and healthcare are no longer basic if you asked me. These are purely economic problems nowadays and any attempt to solve them using social means is going to fail IMO. In the sense that, we are now in global village and countries are becoming more dependent on other countries. Even security can no longer be said to basic nowadays. So government has to make policies that is at least 70% based on sound economic principles to ensure sustenability of these projects.

My friend, the idea of searching for salvation is quite funny to me though. If I were you, I would be looking for better alternatives not a saviour.

You asked why government couldn't build an operate. That's surely a good question. I will try as much as possible to answer that but I feel its a whole new idea that has to be discussed. brb

Rad1cal:

[b][size=19pt]That is a lie . .the security situation has been low in recent months . Who are you trying to deceive here  . Which Lagos are you referencing[/size]

Hope you memorize this quote for future referencing . .cos it might come in useful

Confronted with diverse cases of security threats in Lagos State, the government established the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF) in 2007. Consequently, police statistics show 79 percent reduction in crime rate, which makes Lagos one of the safest cities in Africa. But a sustained commitment to ensuring effective policing through the public-private partnership model, is required to keep the momentum. Gboyega Akinsanmi writes

Before the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF) was established in 2007, the state crime rate was alarming. Bank robberies became rife in different parts of the state; the use of public buses to rob was on the increase; and public order was extremely vulnerable that a good number of Lagos residents relocated. Likewise, car snatching, ritual killing and burglary had become almost normal activities in Lagos metropolis.

But this trend has now changed tremendously. This is evident in the 2010 report of the Lagos State Police Command.  At the fourth town-hall meeting of the Fund held at the Civic Centre, Victoria Island, the state Commissioner of Police, Mr. Marvel Akpoyibo presented a graphic report of the state crime rate, which he said, had drastically nose-dived by 79 percent between October 2009 and September 2010.

Within this timeframe, about 64 armed robbery incidents were foiled by the security operatives of Lagos State Rapid Response Squad (RRS); security and emergency operatives responded to 25 fire outbreaks and 27 accident victims in the state. He attributed the record success to the approach of the state government to set up the Fund as a means of bolstering security through capacity-building and logistics support.

Like the 2010 report, the previous statistics show rapid decline of crime rate. The decline was 62.2 percent between January 2007 and July 2009. But the state police command sought a sustained state intervention to address criminalities in the state. In 2009, private and public stakeholders thus pledged more support. Through the partnership, the state had invested a sum of N4.6 billion in the Fund, thus bringing down crime rates.

[size=15pt]In 2006, for instance, about 494 murder cases were recorded in the state within the timeframe. In 2007 alone, there were 221 murder cases recorded before the Fund began operations. The number declined to 193 cases in 2008 and dropped to 80 at the end of July 2009.[/size] This decline only represents about 63.8 percent, which suggests an appreciable impact of the state intervention in security governance and management.

[size=18pt]In the case of policemen killed in encounters with armed robbers, the statistics show that about 98 police offers of different high and low ranks were killed at the same timeframe. The number of police officers killed was as high as 59 in 2007, it sharply dropped to 33 in 2008, representing  about 44.7 percent. The number dropped to just 6 in July 2009, which indicates that the killing of police officers has reduced by 89.3 percent.[/size]

[size=15pt]The incidents of armed robbery recorded within the same timeframe also dropped as the report indicated. From 264 armed robbery incidents in 2007, it came down to 78 armed attacks, representing about 88.63 percent decline. By July 2009, it declined to just 30, which security analysts said it was at its lowest in the last decade, although they called for sustained effort to stem the incidents of criminalities on all fronts of the state.[/size]

[size=15pt]About 4,238 ammunition were recovered in 2007. The number of ammunition recovered surged to 13,149 in 2008, although it dropped to 1,093 ammunition by July 2009, indicating about 210 percent improvement. In the case of arms, 302 arms were recovered in 2007, climbed up to 358 and declined to 326, thus suggesting an increase of 7.94 percent in the number of arms recovered. The logic is simply that intensified anti-robbery missions produced positive results with the increased number of arms and ammunition recovered.
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[size=15pt]In another crime incident, the anti-robbery missions had brought low the number of armed robbers arrested from 602 in 2007 to just 451 in 2008. The number further came down to 177 by July 2009, though the police command warned that sustained anti-robbery missions are required to keep crime incidents as low as zero in the state. The number of stolen vehicles recovered also declined from 1695 in 2007 to 939 in 2008, representing 44.6 percent. It dropped further to 439 in July 2009. This shows an improvement of 74.1 percent if when compared with the cases of stolen vehicles recovered in the 2007 fiscal year.[/size]

The police statistics thus show that significant improvement was recorded in fighting crimes in the state. The state police command acknowledged the role of state in crime-fighting, suggesting that the task of state security can no longer be left in the hands of the federal government alone. As the police commissioner stated, the government of Lagos State had provided leadership in promoting community policing, which he explained was the practice in all modern civilizations, democracies and economies in the world of the twenty-first century.

From 2007, there has been a steady downward movement in the criminal activities in the state. For this reason, Akpoyibo commended the public-private partnership approach to the state security under the administration of Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola while declaring zero tolerance for crime in the state. He simply said the mission of the administration is already being realised as crime indices have now assumed a downward trend.

At the town-hall meeting, Fashola addressed a gathering of concerned Lagos residents, who he said their contribution to the Fund, had helped the security operatives to nip in the bud a number of religious and ethnic incidents before they could escalate because the state had asset and equipment they could effectively deploy. He thus called for a renewed and sustained commitment to the Fund if crime rate must remain low in the state.

He lamented the impact of economic recession on the contribution of major donors to the Fund when it was set up, a situation both Chairman of the Fund Board of Trustees, Mr. Remi Makanjuola and its Executive Secretary, Mr. Fola Arthur-Worrey, said brought the contribution of private sector down to as low as 30 percent while the state government had been supporting the Fund to the tune of 70 percent in the 2010 fiscal year.

The governor therefore called on both individual and corporate donors to give more support to help sustain the Fund, pointing out that a centralized police force, whose ability “to perform its duties is predicated on the level of support it receives in material and logistics provided by its principal, the federal government”.

Fashola’s call has, however, started yielding positive result from both corporate bodies and individuals just as Zenith Bank Plc and Skye Bank Plc pledged a sum of N50 million each. A good number of private firms, public institutions and individuals also pledged varying amounts of money to support the Fund. But given the enormity of policing Lagos metropolis, Fashola advocated sustained individual, private and public effort to give the state police command support through capacity building and other necessary assistance.

He held a view that over 25 years of underfunding of police by the federal government “had led to the inability of the force to respond as effectively as it would desire to violent crimes, which recorded an upward trend between 2000 and 2007. The federal government could not even make up the difference required to ensure the immediate effectiveness of the police through yearly budget provisions that informed our collective resolve to set up the Fund”.

Fashola therefore explained that the Fund “has been able to raise over N6.2 billion in material and funding in the aid of the police and other security agencies in the state since it was set up. The effect of this flow of resources has been continually security as official police statistics and independent reports have shown. One of the advantages of our direct investment in the provision of assets for the police is our collective ownership of the assets, which translates to better accountability and coordination,” Fashola noted.

He therefore said addressing the challenges “will require continued commitment and deeply rooted partnership on the part of government, the private sector and individuals. We urge financial institutions, telecommunication companies, manufacturing firms, oil & gas giants, educational institutions, religious bodies and other well-meaning organisations and individuals to donate more generously to sustain the Security Fund,” he said.

aribisala0:

.you said GOVERNMENT and that is what I responded to. If you are wanting to make a distinction and defend the Lagos state government fine. There is no perfect government and there is always room for improvement.

you are not me and so do not patronise me about what i should look for .
what is good for you is for you to determine. I will determine for myself. I cannot attest to the security improvement.
The security situation in Lagos has deteriorated especially with the advent of the twin technologies of Okada and mobile phones and the persistent growth in population. these are not issues that should be politicised.As such I do not blame the government wholly BUT the situation is VERY BAD lagos state is NOT just Ikeja and the Island. To talk about statistics for crime without providing them shows you are determined as to what these mystery statistics must say. are we talking about the same lagos "statistics for crime from 1999?? who keeps them.
It is important to study ACN well so we can see how they will be different from PDP if in power. The sad truth is they are the same.
 No doubt there have been a few achievements by ACN in lagos but there is more hype than substance.They seem to be believing their own hype. I have supported the ACN government for long enough to know that they are NOT democratic. I will not be like the obstinate fly that follows the corpse into the grave. They need to start listening to those they govern and stop acting like a military regime. Sadly the mask is slipping and we can see who is behind the masquerade.

Lagos state is a challenging place to govern but its people are NOT silly. For well over 90 % of Lagosians the government has little impact
There is the issue of Local government too. The elections were rigged,candidates imposed and they have a history of non-performance
this thread is about roads and as far as that is concerned the government in Lagos has been very diasppointing. Ceratainly in Ikorodu and Epe for example there is NOTHING to write home about.  The reality is we have a population that expect nothing and so it is not hard to please them.
they should stop those propaganda programmes on TV and starrt listening to people

phuck_NL:

@ Cougar and EKO ILE.

Thunder fire you and your bosses.

The toll is unacceptable. Period.
If they want to alleviate traffic, Build A FRIGGIN new road and TOLL THAT ONE.
If people realise that the new TOLLED road is faster and better for them, they will use it and pay tolls.
You cant force someone to pay tolls. You have to create an alternative. The current alternative that LCC is claiming is a JOKE.
If you want to see what tolling looks like check out the SAM HOUSTON TOLLWAY IN HOUSTON on Youtube. Nobody if forced to use that MAGNIFICENT PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE but people ply it daily. There are alternatives. Thats what you call tolling.
Because say COOGAR don manage collect visa enter Lagos Extension (london) , we no go hear word again. If you want to compare anything come to the UNITED STATES OF MURRRDAFUKN AMERICA and see how they toll. They don't force people to pay tolls except on roads in areas like the penny/New jersey turnpike where the road cuts from state to another.
THE LCC TOLL IS ABSOLUTE RUBBISH AND SHOULD BE RESISteD.

iMAGINE IF THEY had built flyovers, completed the entire stretch of the road, maybe, just maybe people woulda bn more sympathetic. They simply DECORATED THE ROAD AND WANT TO COLLECT TOLL FOR THAT.

MyloXyloto:

God is set to punish these silly Tinubu and Fashola a*ss lickers like Eko Ile, AkanbiEdu and Coogar.
You want already poor Nigerians to be more impoverished just because Tinubu wants to be richer at all costs.

Yet una go open that una useless mouth dey curse PDP whereas una no better pass dem. God go punish una well well and e go cause dat una useless hand to catch leprosy since una sabi type nonsense. Especially that Eko-Ile. As u talk say Lagosians must suffer because of the greed of your master, na so you and your useless toto go dey drip water and suffer.

Akanbi_edu:

Coogar, see what I am saying.
This one thinks paying $1500 a year for university education is demonic

And this one wants to know what the government is providing for the people.
Yet, every four years, these are the people the government will return to for votes.

Confronted with diverse cases of security threats in Lagos State, the government established the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF) in 2007. Consequently, police statistics show 79 percent reduction in crime rate, which makes Lagos one of the safest cities in Africa. But a sustained commitment to ensuring effective policing through the public-private partnership model, is required to keep the momentum. Gboyega Akinsanmi writes

In 2006, for instance, about 494 murder cases were recorded in the state within the timeframe. In 2007 alone, there were 221 murder cases recorded before the Fund began operations. The number declined to 193 cases in 2008 and dropped to 80 at the end of July 2009. This decline only represents about 63.8 percent, which suggests an appreciable impact of the state intervention in security governance and management.

In the case of policemen killed in encounters with armed robbers, the statistics show that about 98 police offers of different high and low ranks were killed at the same timeframe. The number of police officers killed was as high as 59 in 2007, it sharply dropped to 33 in 2008, representing  about 44.7 percent. The number dropped to just 6 in July 2009, which indicates that the killing of police officers has reduced by 89.3 percent.

The incidents of armed robbery recorded within the same timeframe also dropped as the report indicated. From 264 armed robbery incidents in 2007, it came down to 78 armed attacks, representing about 88.63 percent decline. By July 2009, it declined to just 30, which security analysts said it was at its lowest in the last decade, although they called for sustained effort to stem the incidents of criminalities on all fronts of the state.

About 4,238 ammunition were recovered in 2007. The number of ammunition recovered surged to 13,149 in 2008, although it dropped to 1,093 ammunition by July 2009, indicating about 210 percent improvement. In the case of arms, 302 arms were recovered in 2007, climbed up to 358 and declined to 326, thus suggesting an increase of 7.94 percent in the number of arms recovered. The logic is simply that intensified anti-robbery missions produced positive results with the increased number of arms and ammunition recovered.

In another crime incident, the anti-robbery missions had brought low the number of armed robbers arrested from 602 in 2007 to just 451 in 2008. The number further came down to 177 by July 2009, though the police command warned that sustained anti-robbery missions are required to keep crime incidents as low as zero in the state. The number of stolen vehicles recovered also declined from 1695 in 2007 to 939 in 2008, representing 44.6 percent. It dropped further to 439 in July 2009. This shows an improvement of 74.1 percent if when compared with the cases of stolen vehicles recovered in the 2007 fiscal year.

aribisala0:

.you said GOVERNMENT and that is what I responded to. If you are wanting to make a distinction and defend the Lagos state government fine. There is no perfect government and there is always room for improvement.

you are not me and so do not patronise me about what i should look for .
what is good for you is for you to determine. I will determine for myself. I cannot attest to the security improvement.
The security situation in Lagos has deteriorated especially with the advent of the twin technologies of Okada and mobile phones and the persistent growth in population. these are not issues that should be politicised.As such I do not blame the government wholly BUT the situation is VERY BAD lagos state is NOT just Ikeja and the Island. To talk about statistics for crime without providing them shows you are determined as to what these mystery statistics must say. are we talking about the same lagos "statistics for crime from 1999?? who keeps them.
It is important to study ACN well so we can see how they will be different from PDP if in power. The sad truth is they are the same.
 No doubt there have been a few achievements by ACN in lagos but there is more hype than substance.They seem to be believing their own hype. I have supported the ACN government for long enough to know that they are NOT democratic. I will not be like the obstinate fly that follows the corpse into the grave. They need to start listening to those they govern and stop acting like a military regime. Sadly the mask is slipping and we can see who is behind the masquerade.

Lagos state is a challenging place to govern but its people are NOT silly. For well over 90 % of Lagosians the government has little impact
There is the issue of Local government too. The elections were rigged,candidates imposed and they have a history of non-performance
this thread is about roads and as far as that is concerned the government in Lagos has been very diasppointing. Ceratainly in Ikorodu and Epe for example there is NOTHING to write home about.  The reality is we have a population that expect nothing and so it is not hard to please them.
they should stop those propaganda programmes on TV and starrt listening to people

coogar:

you are a big tool - the biggest tool this forum is yet to produce.
one cannot force people to pay tolls? who is forcing you to? stay in your shed but if you use that same road, you must pay for using it.
that is the point. all your balderdash about houston/new jersey makes no sense. this is lagos state! the commercial nerve centre of africa!

if you want to stay in lagos, there's a premium to pay!!
if lagos is too high-priced, go back to your father's village and take up subsistence farming.
staying in lagos should not be by force - i am sure every american also wants to stay in florida, hollywood, malibu, etc but their finances won't let them.

use your common sense for once. if paying tolls on that road is going to make you more impoverished then pack out of there.
there are other places in lagos you can stay and avoid these extra-costs. alagbado, ojodu, ajegunle and oshodi are nice places you can stay.
i dunno why you herbs want to stay in the nicest parts of lagos and you don't want to pay for the premium that comes with that.

continue with your epileptic rants. i hope you man up on sunday and join the protesters to burn the toll plazas.
if you are man enough - join the protest instead of barking on the internet.

he should come n see what his counterparts are paying in developed countries.
like i said, nigerians are spoilt. everyone wants to be a graduate and they think having a degree should be child's play!
these morons wouldn't mind paying $10,000 for a certification course that takes them nowhere but they would frown at their own state government for levying them with chicken change.

let them keep asking. i am done with the people on this thread.
many of them are either stark illiterates/semi-illiterates or herbivores with the lowest intelligence quotients in the world.

what baffles me is that these morons pay premium with smiles when they are asked to pay abroad. but the moment their own people ask them to pay, they frown their faces, they curse out loudly and they protest. when british airways tax an average nigerian £600 to fly, nigerians pay with prostrating for the white man. when lcc tax them £1 to pay on a paved lane, they come out snapping and cussing they cannot pay.

they have no difficulty paying to develop a white man's country but they are ready to die to stop their own country from developing.

phuck_NL:

This is what happens when people get visas to Lagos Extension and think they have gone to the west to study. Ol boy you just wasted your money going to JAND. You for just stay for Nigeria. What a waste of education.

So you are telling me people can be forced to pay toll in residential areas, chineke your parents have wasted their money.

So if indigenes of lekki can not afford to pay the toll they should leave lekki abi? Mind you, 99% of the people that can actually afford it are not lagos residents. Seriously your parents have wasted money.

aribisala0:

security when it exists may not be noticed this is true. Insecurity is a different thing entirely. People know when they are under threat.
 but this is a question of factual accuracy  and so not  one we shall agree on.
my experience has been that there is general insecurity in Nigeria and not Lagos alone.  
The evidence for this is the rise in the reported gun crimes everywhere. as such I do not localize this to lagos but I do not see any grounds for Fashola to claim success in this regard.
I note that you quote some figures where do they come from why not share them with us.
and let us analyse them. at best it is disingenuous to quote unattributed figures without context.

leaving security to one side
my point is a very simple one Fashola's government has made some progress compared to what came before but he could do a lot better .

first in furthering what was Tinubu's initiative they have changed the revenue generating profile of the state and that is to be commended. But there is evidence they are losing focus. There are very strong signs of corruption,autocracy and a derailment of democracy.rather than try to defend the indefensible they should engage with the electorate and demonstrate that they respect them and view them as their masters NOT the other way round.
Services must be paid for.
BUT this is a relatively VERY SMALL PROJECT
why is it that in the whole of lagos state this was the ONLY project chosen for this NOT even the Badagry expressway a very laudable project has TOLLING
why was the community not engaged with on this initiative
why is the government not buildin this road
who are this company
HOW MUCH MONEY WILL THIS COMPANY MAKE
when dealing with the public you
MUST BE TRANSPARENT
why three toll gates
we are not talking about a Julius Berger quality job from all indications
in fact those (THE COMPANY) collecting the toll have no track record and were set up solely for this project
I do not live in LEKKI but those affected have articulated a very good case and
the government are

stranded for words
i am very embarassed for the government because I have always supported them on this forum
THIS STINKS

aribisala0:

security when it exists may not be noticed this is true. Insecurity is a different thing entirely. People know when they are under threat.
 but this is a question of factual accuracy  and so not  one we shall agree on.
my experience has been that there is general insecurity in Nigeria and not Lagos alone. 
The evidence for this is the rise in the reported gun crimes everywhere. as such I do not localize this to lagos but I do not see any grounds for Fashola to claim success in this regard.
I note that you quote some figures where do they come from why not share them with us.
and let us analyse them. at best it is disingenuous to quote unattributed figures without context.

leaving security to one side
my point is a very simple one Fashola's government has made some progress compared to what came before but he could do a lot better .

first in furthering what was Tinubu's initiative they have changed the revenue generating profile of the state and that is to be commended. But there is evidence they are losing focus. There are very strong signs of corruption,autocracy and a derailment of democracy.rather than try to defend the indefensible they should engage with the electorate and demonstrate that they respect them and view them as their masters NOT the other way round.

Services must be paid for. true
BUT this is a relatively VERY SMALL PROJECT
and WHO IS GETTING PAID ? from all indications NOT the government.
why is it that in the whole of lagos state this was the ONLY project chosen for this NOT even the Badagry expressway a very laudable project has TOLLING

why was the community not engaged with on this initiative
why is the government not buildin this road
who are this company
HOW MUCH MONEY WILL THIS COMPANY MAKE
when dealing with the public you
MUST BE TRANSPARENT
why three toll gates
we are not talking about a Julius Berger quality job from all indications
in fact those (THE COMPANY) collecting the toll have no track record and were set up solely for this project
I do not live in LEKKI but those affected have articulated a very good case and
the government are stranded for words
i am very embarassed for the government because I have always supported them on this forum
THIS STINKS

phuck_NL:

Everyone should just ignore coogar. He is one of those idiots who believe because they've schooled abroad, that they now know it all.
Simply because they do this and that in Jand, then it has to apply to lagos abi.
How about you pull up a road in your so called Jand where a residential road that was untolled was suddenly converted to a tolled road without adequate alternatives.

Genius100:

Laff wan kill me die for this thread. All I can say is that there is a premium for living in premium locations around the world. To go from New Jersey to New York, you have to pay $13 in toll. How many of you complaining about Lagos will relocate to another state? If Lekki residents can't be charged toll, which area in lagos can be charged? Also remember that the toll collected will be used to continuously maintan the road. So it's not just a matter of building the road.

Kobojunkie:

If you are going to take on the genius moniker, @Genius300, at least make a better effort at pretending it suits you . . .

a) NEW YORK is NOT the same State as NEW JERSEY

b) Even at that, there are alternative routes into NEW YORK from NEW JERSEY that do not require paying $13 toll

c) NewYorkans do not pay tolls to have to ply their own streets without Alternatives. . . .

d) Even in New Jersey, there are alternative routes to the Tunnel

Genius100:

Spoken like a true crack junkie! Of what consequence is it that New york is not in the same state of New Jersey? Hundreds of thousands of people live in New Jersey and work in New york, so what is your point? The point here is that you want to commute to a premium place like New york, you pay for it.

Genius100:

Second, Is toll currently being charged ? The road has been completed for several months and nobody has paid toll yet. That should tell an intellectual dwarf like you that Fashola is looking for alternatives. When they start charing toll without providing an alternative oad, then you can open your stinking trap. Just don't come here to talk about the inconvenience of using the alternative road.