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|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:42am On Jun 12|
If Ruiz cements himself as a juggernaut a unification bout might be just as big especially if wilder keeps making waves. Fvck Eddie Hearn and his muppet. Wilder will be fine.
LMAO! Steroids help your reflexes and speed and cardio. Reflexes can help a persons chin in the sense that the punches you see coming rarely knock you out. Your man not only looked slow but gassed. Anyone who knows anything about human anatomy and body building and followed flex mentallos transformation will tell you something is off. The juice head had better run along back to where he can legally dope and be protected. And if he ever crosses to the US again best know wilder will send him into early retirement.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 1:43am On Jun 12|
You are one of the few reasonable people on here so let us listen to what an expert had to say on the issue.
The Warriors would never have let KD play if his first injury was an Achilles scare. Boogie whom everyone knows will not be here next season was not rushed so it is unfair to say they pulled a Machiavellian move on KD.
I was of the opinion that KD was not going to leave and nothing the media were saying could change my mind. They were the ones just hellbent on forcing him out.
There is nobody who would let him suffer an Achilles because he was going to leave. If he decides to take the player option he still gets $31.5M and can rest the whole year claiming he is healing. The warriors gain nothing. If he signs the max or super max, he gets $221M for 5 years and still may not play for 6-12months so how would they gain?
Remember, there was nothing at least by my observation that indicated he wanted to leave. Nothing. He also had his own doctors who cleared him. That is something most people don't want to admit. That his own doctors cleared him. Not just GSW doctors.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:55am On Jun 12|
And you've been brainwashed by the media into thinking jihad is necessarily a bad word and you're too much of a bint to find out what it really means for yourself.
Like feminazis need a reason to get mad. Keep reading drivel online about the north and keep believing that shiit. Mind you, there was a time when the north only had female leaders. May not be the same now but what exactly do you think is going on here? You think we are on some handmaidens tale shiit? LOL
Granted our hubris has put us in a strange position cause we felt we were better than what anyone had to offer but even now without being educated i'm proud of who we are as a unit and we will continue to improve because we know what the root of our issue is. But you lot claim to be educated and yet i've been to the south, its sucks arse. You know a very funny thing happened a few days ago, i was on a cross state journey to an international airport and we stopped by some village to pray. I cant explain what i saw there for you but as a pessimist even i can say if thats a microcosm of whats going on in this country there will be better days ahead. They say cockroaches and twinkies will survive a holocaust, we are a little bit of both.
And i'm glad you brought the issue of leaders into this. The only good leader the country ever had you lot killed and cursed us with bad leaders for eternity. Of course the north will naturally have more leaders being the majority but every region has enough autonomy to decide its own faith. You have your senators and governors and if they like all the others werent so corrupt dont you think you'd be better off?
We know our problems, we are addressing our problems, you think you have all the keys and you still suck almost as bad as us so what could be wrong?
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 2:02am On Jun 12|
I'm excited for the santos fight cause i feel its the jon jones rumble johnson fight we never got but he doesnt offer anything more than evans, glover and more recently smith offer, a right hand hay maker and we all know how that ended for them. You need power to beat jones cause you cant out smart him or beat his technique but walker seems to be the only one long and explosive enough to offer a challenge. I'll give rockhold an outside chance as well only because of his kicks, no one seems to want to be able to get to bones' chicken legs, and no one has rockholds ground and pound game at LHW. Santos i give no chance at all.
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 2:51am On Jun 12|
Eruditor:Damn. You keep saying comprehension but you don't seem to comprehend. I'm just going to stop here before you embarrass yourself further
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 2:55am On Jun 12|
birdman:But this negro here would never accept, even though the evidences are all there.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 3:22am On Jun 12|
LOL you are funny. It hurts.
You even think Birdman is saying the same thing as you.
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:39am On Jun 12|
Eruditor:At least we both agree on one thing...that GS is a classless organization
|Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 9:28am On Jun 12|
My heart goes out to KD, wishing him the best. For those like kellerman who think this should detract teams from giving him the max, I humbly beg to disagree.
KD's skill set means that at the worst what this injury will cost him is a bit of explosiveness, from the 12 minutes he played in game 5 I saw a peek into what at the very worst KD will become and that is a prime Dirk, purely a perimeter and elbow/ post killer.
So For the opportunity of having prime Dirk playing for your team for 3 years, that in it self is worth swallowing the first year payday.
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 10:44am On Jun 12|
Khanben:For you to say that a post-achilles injury KD is the equivalent of a prime Dirk is an insult to Dirk himself. But that doesn't mean he can't be effective as a scorer, but having this kind of injury at 30 years, it would only be a gamble if any team offers him the max contract. Look how much Cousins is earning after his own injury. How many teams offered him the max. Do you think he wasn't worth a max prior to his injury?
KD would be 31 this year for heaven's sake, and he'll be 32 by the time he begins to play at a level close to elite(which is still a probability). And he can't get any better, the only way from there is downhill
The only good deal KD can get is to exercise his player option and earn 31 mil while doing nothing.
|Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 12:33pm On Jun 12|
Khanben:Did you watch prime Dirk? This is actually disrespectful on all accounts
|Re: The NBA Begins by Pointguardusa(m): 12:41pm On Jun 12|
Warriors in seven. That's what we know. It has actually been a long series.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Pointguardusa(m): 12:42pm On Jun 12|
This is kinda true.
|Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 1:32pm On Jun 12|
You have to have a type of brain deficiency to call the Warriors a classless organization after being transparent with KDs situation. Hate has sipped into your skull and you don't know it yet. These same people will still have something to say if KD had dropped 40. They'll say we didn't clear him because we wanted to prove we can win without him.
The Celtics weren't classless when Isaiah Thomas aggravated his right femoral-acetabular impingement injury with labral tear cos the doctors said he was fine to play. His doctors probably kept mute because they knew his pay day was coming and the Celtics were fine with it. They even agreed readjuste the trade when the Cavs knew who's bad his injury was. Danny Ainge wasn't going to pay him and subsequently traded him to the Cavs and we call it business. We knew how it ended.
But the Warriors saying KD's health is more important than championship after he missed 32 days in the playoffs is a lie right? Allowing Kevin play because he wanted to after being cleared by his doctors and the warriors medical team to come back was classless. Right?
KD had a calf strain at first. It takes 3-6weeks depending on how bad the strain was. KD took 32 days off and was cleared after series of practice. Up to me, he wouldn't have played like I said hours before the game. The Calf muscles are connected to the Achilles tendon. If he had a strain and recovered, you'll still be taking a risk on the achilles. But players have played this same way without any injury. It's only bad because it got complicated.
Down 3-1 complicated everything. KD even on his death bed will always want to play. The same media saying the warriors were holding him back to prove they can win without him are the ones saying the Warriors shouldn't have brought him back. Talk of double standard just because it's the Warriors. He wanted to play, was cleared by the medical team including his, the coach was fine with it and Bob Myers was the last person in line to say yes or no and he made the decision. Bob Myers made it known KD's health was first. He has to consider KD's wish as well as the medical team. The same media will punish KD till death if the warriors win without him and being KD, I'm sure this was why he was eager to return. Class is taking responsibility for your actions. KD took responsibility, the team did as well. It's the media and the opposing fans who are now playing devil's advocate that have a problem.
|Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 1:34pm On Jun 12|
steady986:Two illiterates giving the same output in a business field doesn't mean they are saying the right thing. You have to know the truth to speak it. You just hate the warriors organization and it's clouding your thought process.
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 1:55pm On Jun 12|
SmooshCHN:Apparently I'm not the only one that hates the Warriors organization now.
|Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 2:11pm On Jun 12|
SmooshCHN:This is what i am saying, he shouldn't have. But i believe this has more to do with KD and knowing the media, the headline will end up with "could KD have played but chose not to leading to warriors being eliminated in 5"?
I don't think KD could have handled that tho. Regardless, i am of the opinion that he shouldn't have played at all.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 2:24pm On Jun 12|
You realize the guys you posted also questioned that initial calf strain prognosis? Bros make we leave this thing...na life lesson whichever side u on. You cant be so needy of peoples approval that you put yourself in jeopardy.
That is not heart like Curry said.
It doesn't make you a good man like his mom said.
It just means you have issues that need solving. I hope KD grows from this, in a good positive way. And I pray we dont see a Derrick Rose type of dropoff when he returns.
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 2:29pm On Jun 12|
SmooshCHN:All this your rant is what every delusional GS supporter would rant. You all are just blind to the facts.
Even Kendrick Perkins that is known to always support everything the Warriors do is blaming them. Did you know that KD didn't have even one full contact practice? Who does that? Why would he fail to have a full contact practice if he was ready? Perhaps he was told to be doing only spot up shooting(which is probably why he made 3 3s in the first quarter. The first time he tried to dribble the ball his Achilles popped.
Let me ask you, if the Warriors were 3-1 up, would KD have been risked for this game? This was pure selfishness on the part of the Warriors.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jun 12|
We the lebron fans have spent years trying to figure out what went wrong here. This moment still haunts us. No matter how we spin it, this was without a doubt the kings lowest moment. But we also understand the reign of dominance that came after this for without this fall, he would never have become, the GOAT man.
|Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 2:48pm On Jun 12|
steady986:You're so desperate you failed to read and understand. Kevin Durant practiced with the team before the game. Stop lying to paint the Warriors bad on one mistake. I hold the organization responsible as well as Bob Myers only because he's the GM but he can only go as far as listening to the medical team and Kevin Durant. But to say the organization is classless is just foolishness and desperation.
|Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 2:55pm On Jun 12|
I reject it for K.D....We never still recover from D.Rose slump in performance. ..
|Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 3:00pm On Jun 12|
An athlete's ability to recover from injury is usually dependent on their physical condition. Boogie has never been in prime physical condition through out his career and it showed during his recovery and his play since he came back.
KD's conditioning on the other hand has always been top notch, in game 5 after nearly a month out his run out for 12 minutes was as if he had not left at all.
The difference between prime Dirk and Prime KD is KD's explosiveness and ability to put the ball on the floor and beat guys easily off the dribble. The ACL will only reduce his explosiveness and nothing more. With KD's skill set and a determination to prove himself after injury I reiterate that the worst that will happen is a KD at prime Dirk. Unless anyone somehow believes he will suddenly forget how to shoot the ball like Ball and Fultz.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 3:33pm On Jun 12|
You are too much.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 3:34pm On Jun 12|
Hate that is anti-productive.
Warriors in 7!
|Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 3:39pm On Jun 12|
Ha ba baba, the host of the show is not an expert. He called the expert who gave factual reasons as to why the first injury was clearly a calf strain. Starting from the way he landed. How straight his legs were and the motion they observed from him before game 5. He made it abundantly clear that it could not have been an Achilles.
The same expert then concluded that the second injury was one but not a rupture and even went as far as saying it looked like a partial tear going by how KD tried to flex his ankle upon landing.
Fact is, nothing I say will matter if you clearly don't even want to listen to experts together with KD's own medical team. Everybody cleared the player. Bob approved of KD's decision. Because it worsened, everyone is now bad. The best run franchise in the NBA is now classless.
I hear you.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:08pm On Jun 12|
true dat. btw has anyone read his new book. He had harsh words for KAT
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:08pm On Jun 12|
LarcPickerin:Let's see Wilder get past Ortiz and Fury first. You're looking too far ahead to the future
LarcPickerin:So why has the most popular complaint about AJ been his head movement and the fact that he moves like a robot in the ring? The truth is the flaws in AJ's game are not what steroids can fix. Anyway I will not pay attention to any speculation about a boxer who has never been involved in any doping scandal whether at amateur or professional level.
His body build is actually working against him and Andre Ward pointed that out when he came to First Take
|Re: The NBA Begins by Hardetayour: 4:20pm On Jun 12|
SmooshCHN:Lol. You're trying o. Don't let stupid people rile u up bruh
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:37pm On Jun 12|
birdman:To be fair KD still has a $31m player option. That's more or less his insurance policy and can still enter free agency the next year assuming he makes a full recovery. He certainly will lose money sha but I don't think his case would be as bad as IT'S. The fake tears by Bob Myers was just the only thing that turned my Belle. Who asked him to try to cry? Poor acting job
|Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 4:51pm On Jun 12|
SmooshCHN:Once again, another GS fan who either doesn't know how to read or simply doesn't understand the terms of basketball. I mentioned he hadn't had a FULL CONTACT PRACTICE and not any practice at all. In case you don't know what a full contact practice is, let me try to explain. It is a practice where you don't go all in physically. It is the first practice done by players who are just returning from an injury.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:52pm On Jun 12|
Both sides have a bit of blame. KD was eager to return, be the savior and win another ring even though he knew he probably shouldnt have. The warriors were desperate enough to clear him even though they knew they probably shouldnt have. KD may finally get what he wants though, peoples respect. People tend to gravitate towards an athlete when he shows some vulnerability. You can see the narrative around him now changing, but at what cost and is it truly worth it?
And speaking of poor acting job, did you see drakes? Lol
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