Princek12:

Like I said, the so called dependent wives can contribute, and there is nothing wrong with that if the parties decide that is what they want to do.

Like I said from my post, it is a discussion about PRIMARY responsibility, not ABSOLUTE responsibility. There is a difference between both, and I have stated it. The fact that a man asks his woman to contribute does not remove it from being his PRIMARY responsibility.

Mrs, Chima:

Last time I have checked humans aren't for sale legally in the West.  Unless the "freedom" women aren't breaking any laws then they have the right to do whatever they want to within the boundaries of the law.  

[b]Who really "dictates" rightful roles?  Most certainly not yo[/b]u.  

2buff:

Nature does, by giving you bosoms that leak milk whenever you push out a new child. Obviously you failed biology in school and probably think men also lactate when their wives give birth.

That aside, no one can force you to do what you don't want to do, even if it's for the good of your own offspring.

2buff:

Nature does, by giving you bosoms that leak milk whenever you push out a new child. [size=14pt]Obviously you failed biology in school [/size]and probably think men also lactate when their wives give birth.

That aside, no one can force you to do what you don't want to do, even if it's for the good of your own offspring.

2buff:

Woman, u asked a question, I gave u an answer.
Even a 5th grader would attest to the relevance of the answer.

U dragging it further makes me question whether you're smarter than a . . .  

claremont:


Since you sound highly-learned when it comes to Biology, kindly tell me what Biology/Biological disposition has to do with any of the below;

Man
Being the provider;
making sure there is food on the table;
making sure the utilities are on;
washing the car(s);
cutting the grass and maintaining the yard, if any;
being the final decision maker;
head of the household;
making sure his wife get Enough Intimacy;
changing the light bulbs other things that need to be replaced; and
making sure that the car(s) are maintained and in good working order.




Woman
Washing dishes;
Doing the laundry, including folding and ironing;
cleaning the house;
cooking the food;
getting the kids ready for the school, if there are kids in the relationship;
changing the diapers of the baby, if needed;
assistant to the head of the household; and
satisfying her husband sexually.

Personally, I don't even understand what "Biological disposition" means when used in this context.

2buff:

It takes a mature lady who thinks on a much better plane to get it like u have.
What I wrote there is an accommodation to those females who think females should be free to do whatever and not woman up their role (cuz we know they are much more than your precious rare kind). With their freedom must come their choice to CHOOSE to take up their rightful roles when they see where the family is going. Many have done so midway.

If THEY never chose it, it will simply feel like slavery. And a slave, when free (eg we don land Yankee), will despise whomever they perceived as their slave driver.

nene1:

I don't see anything wrong with this list. In fact this is how I want my marriage to be. BOTH partners are doing work in the relationship. if my man is cleaning the yard, washing our cars, fixing things in the house, I would be happy to cook and clean and take care of the kids. It is a fair list and splits the work fairly. Even if I am working, which I still plan to do when I get married, I don't mind doing all those things if he is also doing his part. Plus, when it comes to the kids, I want them to feel like they have a mother. WHo else will take care of your kids if you don't?

Now in circumstances where say, unfortunatley the husband may have lost his job, then he will just do moe to help around then and help with the kids. If both partners have respect, understanding and communication between them, they will work out what is best for them.

I don't think it is demeaning to women as I don't think cooking for your family and keeping your house clean is demeaning. If you want to be treated like a princess, then you should treat him like a prince.

nene1:

I don't see anything wrong with this list. In fact this is how I want my marriage to be. BOTH partners are doing work in the relationship. if my man is cleaning the yard, washing our cars, fixing things in the house, I would be happy to cook and clean and take care of the kids. It is a fair list and splits the work fairly. Even if I am working, which I still plan to do when I get married, I don't mind doing all those things if he is also doing his part. Plus, when it comes to the kids, I want them to feel like they have a mother. WHo else will take care of your kids if you don't?

Now in circumstances where say, unfortunatley the husband may have lost his job, then he will just do moe to help around then and help with the kids. If both partners have respect, understanding and communication between them, they will work out what is best for them.

I don't think it is demeaning to women as I don't think cooking for your family and keeping your house clean is demeaning. If you want to be treated like a princess, then you should treat him like a prince.

MsDarkSkin:

@ 2buff big ups!!  
What I want to know is what is "slave like" about a man being able to come home after a hard day's work and know the food is hot, his bath water is ready and he'll be appreciated for his sacrifices?

Took me a while to get where I am mentally and I am glad I am there. I'm still in my early twenties and taking the time to reflect on WHY our marriages in the west are starting to fail. As I have said a thousand times I consider the "women's movement" to be a bigger burden on womankind than an ally for obvious reasons.

Being raised by  a mother who grew up in the caribbean in the 60's and 70's   BELIEVE me when I tell you her daughters KNOW how to keep up the tradition. I have NO issue with doing my part. Once I take on the role of wife and mother, play time is OVER! If the man is NOT beating you what's the problem? If he's not DEMANDING too much from you other than TLC what's the issue? seriously.

And for everyone trying to bring religion into this, REGARDLESS of what faith you are from its just ordained to be that way. Even some "atheist households" are comprised of women who cook for their men and clean the house so kill that noise.   And[b] BIOLOGY[/b] has a lot to do with this issue as biology or  "the study of life" is self explanatory.

I have bre@sts and my man does NOT for a reason. My bre@sts, my womb; etc are representations of the fact that I can and should nurture, his masculinity is proof that he is to do physical labor, to be the provider and the protector of this domain. Seriously, even evolution-tards-ists who believe evolution is a perfect replacement of God can see what I am saying and how biology correlates with male and female roles.

nene1:

@ Outstrip and Mrs. Chima, y'all need to take a chill pill. My posts seem to hit a nerve. Also, I was talking in GENERAL not at anyone specifically. If it doesn't apply to you, then let it fly. Also, outstrip what is your point exactly?

Mrs, Chima:

No, YOU need to take a chill pill and I corrected YOU on what you said about MY comments.

Woman
Washing dishes;
Doing the laundry, including folding and ironing;
cleaning the house;
cooking the food;
getting the kids ready for the school, if there are kids in the relationship;
changing the diapers of the baby, if needed;
assistant to the head of the household; and
satisfying her husband sexually.

nene1:

Oh I see, you are upset b/c I called you out in an arugment you failed. You know you don't have a good answer to his question and that is what I pointed out.

nene1:

@ Outstrip and Mrs. Chima, y'all need to take a chill pill. My posts seem to hit a nerve. Also, I was talking in GENERAL not at anyone specifically. If it doesn't apply to you, then let it fly. Also, outstrip what is your point exactly?

emöfine:

I guess I don't qualify to be a woman then

2buff:

You don't have to do it all, especially if oga is there to help with some things. The key thing is to not feel like you are sub-class for doing it.
I would rather my wife doesn't cook for me if she doesn't want to. It must be out of  the joy of her own heart and her love for me. If not, she can keep it. Been feeding myself just fine before she showed up.

Men & Women just gotta CHOOSE to better their home and marriage out of love without waiting on someone to force them with "rules" and "regulations".

Outstrip:

My point is read what you wrote. I am not sure why you need me to take a chill pill. Because I disagreed with you? I just stated a fact. If you feel like you hit a nerve because I disagreed with you then you need to look within. You cannot make statements like you will do your part if he does his part and then follow it up with if he loses his job he will have to do more and then act like you disagree with people who say that there is not an assigned role to any sex. After you are married with kids for a couple of years then maybe you can come back and discuss what a man or womans role is in a marriage. The fact is you have no clue and you have no clue because it is just a fantasy for you. Simple. I hope my point was more clear this time

My point all along was HOW does THAT LIST defines a woman because she has a bosom and a man because he has a Joystick?   

Someone has the right to DEFINE MY WOMANHOOD?   

Mrs, Chima:

Now you see my objections?  But noooooooo, I am a feminist, manhater, dyke, "too westernized", and all the other bullshits.

Mrs, Chima:

Thank you.  That's all I was saying boo boo.    Let it be something I WANT TO DO not because someone said it is the woman's role and the same for my husband. 

I finally broke down 2buff, now SAFO!  (filing teeth)

Mrs, Chima:

You made an Bottom out of yourself when you assumed that I didn't respond to Princek12's question because I didn't have anything to say.  I checked you and told you that I have a life outside of Nairaland and not everyone sits and waits for a reply.  

You are right I am upset because I checked you.    I shouldn't have to be checking those who claimed to have intelligence.  (blank face)  

I have answered his questions, if it isn't the answers YOU were crying for then TOO BAD.  

Move on.  

Princek12:

You did not answer any of the questions I asked you. You were not woman enough to answer those questions. You avoid questions when you have nothing to say, or when you know that the answer is hurtful to your position.

Mrs, Chima:

I have answered your shitty questions the way I WANTED TO ANSWER IT and YOU WEREN'T man ENOUGH to accept them. 

Not my problems. 

nene1:

@ Mrs. Chima, still beating around the bush. you don't have a good answer. you don't have any goode point so give it up already. I like how you chose to avoid the questions.

Princek12:

that you collectively pump gas is an answer to who pumps the gas?

that you collectively open the door is an answer to who opens the door for you?

that shows how "intelligent" you are!

Mrs, Chima:

I thought you said I didn't answer the questions?  Make up your mind Forest Gump. 

You just shown how "ignorantly dumb" you are!