dare2think:

^^^^^^^

But they can put their fake miracles and pastor-worship all over the website.

The purpose of putting charitable deeds on website is to generate more income, more support and more exposure gor the cause. People see the effects of their donations and are encouraged to do more.

By the way boko- haram bombed maiduguri today and killed at least 8 people. Your mog's curse is magnificent and efficiently working!!!

FXKing2012:

First, the miracles are not fake, I know cos I've been a direct beneficiary of it.

Second, if they start putting their charitable deeds online, people will come out again to attack them that they are doing it for the donations and money.

Well, the primary purpose of a church is salvation of souls, then other things may follow.

2good:

You are so so blind and completely lost with your brain being a waste. Don"t you reason at all? Instead of cringing in your own shell and denounce most of the teachings of this so called men of god- oyedepo inclusive, you are here still defending them, despite 100% clarity that there is a zero positive effect of his prayers and prophetic declaration on their flocks. The Nigerian society is the major blame factor for the current state of things but you still have a brain to decide what is rational or not. I pity your life and hope you acknowledge the truth and act accordingly before your life on earth will end up being a waste.

helpee:

don't be silly my guy. Did NATO led invasion of libya worked? Why did it take many months of bombing before ghaddafi was captured? So u are dumb enuf to assume that prayer is magic? His prayer is definately working with the series of high profile arrest that were made following his pronouncement. So u assume that once he speaks BH attack will just stop like magic. Nothing including prayers work like that. After the amnesty program of yaradua, we all witnessed a lot of kidnappings still but over time we all come to agree that it actually worked to a reasonable extent. When God annointed david as a king thru prophet samuel, dumb people like u tut it wud be immediate but it tuk 14yrs from prophecy to the throne. Prayer is not magic but it is powerful. With all these high profile arrest BH may soon become history regardless of the bombings you see here and there. Stop being petty. Stop being foolish and stop being silly. It is only a baby that talks like you expecting immediate answer to things like this. At least oyedepo contributed what he had to the fight against terrorism which is prayer; how many imams have done that. What is your own contribution too apart from coming to nairaland to vomit nonsense? Kudos oyedepo. You are a courageous nigerian

2good:

you are another blind religious fool who believes that in a probability experiment of a coin, no matter whether the outcome is head or tail, the probability of an event occurring is 1. Prayer is waste of time as can be seen in the mess your jungle country Nigeria is today. you can travel round the world to predominantly atheistic countries and see how prosperous they are. So we pay tax for military and the police for nothing? If they cannot ensure law and order, why then are they paid salary? You think the arrest of some people that is yet to reduce or create any change is the result of your con pastor's prayer? You are actually a bigger fool than the opening poster. I will tag you a cretin because you are dafter than daft itself. You're all so lazy, spending bulk of your life praying to some non existing god, and expecting miracle to happen in your life and solve your problems. You cannot even manage your lives and abundant resources cos you have decided to make your brain a waste and instead sit down waiting for some phony god to come help you eradicate poverty from your country. You even had the guts to be using a product of mans reasoning typing here and displaying more stupidity. What have religion achieved in this world besides fueling hatred and segregation? Keep on dreaming and waiting for spiritual intervention, while I laugh at your suffering because you have refused to use the only good thing nature have given you which is your brain. Hope you know 30 people died yesterday as a result of Boko Haram's activity? Probably you don't know because you don't have power to watch television as you are waiting for god to come solve your power problem also.
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FXKing2012:

First, the miracles are not fake, I know cos I've been a direct beneficiary of it.

Second, if they start putting their charitable deeds online, people will come out again to attack them that they are doing it for the donations and money.

Well, the primary purpose of a church is salvation of souls, then other things may follow.

dare2think:

@Mr Helpee

If I may come in.

No need for animosity and angst between us, Lets try and discuss maturely and agree to dis-agree.

Firstly, the title of this thread notes that 'Bishop Oyedepo's Curse Has Started Working On Boko Haram', so obviously someone feels has the right to state their belief. However, you need to understand that, as this is a public forum, there will be others who also posses the right to dis-agree.

I understand that you revere Oyedepo, a stand that should be respected, however you have to understand that there are others that do not. And their stand should also be respected as you would want them to respect yours.

On the subject of the topic, at least lets be honest with ourselves, the 'curse' is not working! (at least as of yesterday). So, continuous defence of the title is a show of deep insecurities.

If Christians, who claim to hold the pillars of everlasting truth and should be models for honesty, cant accept something as obvious as a curse not working, it only gives 'unbelievers' more ammunitions to suspect folly within the religion.

Once again, these are my opinions, yours would be delightfully welcomed.

dare2think:

@Mr Helpee

If I may come in.

No need for animosity and angst between us, Lets try and discuss maturely and agree to dis-agree.

Firstly, the title of this thread notes that 'Bishop Oyedepo's Curse Has Started Working On Boko Haram', so obviously someone feels has the right to state their belief. However, you need to understand that, as this is a public forum, there will be others who also posses the right to dis-agree.

I understand that you revere Oyedepo, a stand that should be respected, however you have to understand that there are others that do not. And their stand should also be respected as you would want them to respect yours.

On the subject of the topic, at least lets be honest with ourselves, the 'curse' is not working! (at least as of yesterday). So, continuous defence of the title is a show of deep insecurities.

If Christians, who claim to hold the pillars of everlasting truth and should be models for honesty, cant accept something as obvious as a curse not working, it only gives 'unbelievers' more ammunitions to suspect folly within the religion.

Once again, these are my opinions, yours would be delightfully welcomed.

dare2think:

@Mr Helpee

If I may come in.

No need for animosity and angst between us, Lets try and discuss maturely and agree to dis-agree.

Firstly, the title of this thread notes that 'Bishop Oyedepo's Curse Has Started Working On Boko Haram', so obviously someone feels has the right to state their belief. However, you need to understand that, as this is a public forum, there will be others who also posses the right to dis-agree.

I understand that you revere Oyedepo, a stand that should be respected, however you have to understand that there are others that do not. And their stand should also be respected as you would want them to respect yours.

On the subject of the topic, at least lets be honest with ourselves, the 'curse' is not working! (at least as of yesterday). So, continuous defence of the title is a show of deep insecurities.

If Christians, who claim to hold the pillars of everlasting truth and should be models for honesty, cant accept something as obvious as a curse not working, it only gives 'unbelievers' more ammunitions to suspect folly within the religion.

Once again, these are my opinions, yours would be delightfully welcomed.

helpee:

I actually underestimated the level of your stupidity. With your write up, I suddenly discovered I was responding to an  who is largely suffering from insecurity. So ? After realising that 30 people died yesterday what have you done better than mocking the spirit of the dead by rushing to nairaland to use them to settle scores and gain cheap points? To be frank with you, idiots like you don't have have the ability to reason beyond their nose. Show me one single country that claims there is no God and yet they are succesful like you claim? Why are u so shallow in your thinking? If you actually take time to study the origin of the internet you will be shocked that even the originators of internet ascribe their success to God; anyway that is why you are grossly unsuccesful as its obvious in your level of animosity towards the society. People like you expect God to practically come down and do everything for them and once things are not working out they rush to a forum to deny the existence of God. silly; that is the only language I can use to describe a slowpoke like you.

2good:

Leave them to continue deceiving themselves and living in poverty and chaos. After living outside the country for sometime and visiting nigeria, i noticed the deep level of abnormal reasoning displayed by Nigerians including adults because of their religious believes and made up my mind to speak negatively about it in the public as the nation is more or less not working with all d so called praying and fasting. The people in the country that have been confined to life style in Nigeria see the chaos they go through everyday as normal and never agree to work together to make their life better by planning and co-operating together but rather go to church to pray for prosperity and divine intervention.
KbbJb
I dont believe in your bible and any of the gods out there so get that straight in your head before you ascribe your foolishness and spirituality to me. I live in an environment where i have friends with atleast 10 different religious sects and we all mind our business and restrict our believes to our mind. But silly religious Nigerians like you are out there displaying your bigotry, forcing your believes on people, killing yourself in the name of a god that have long forsaken you if at all he exist. Continue to enjoy the suffering and insecurity you go through since you have accepted it as the norm and promise of your god for you. And concerning the least religious country, the internet is open and free for you to learn the correlation between religiosity and prosperity. I wont be the one to educate you on that.
[/quottyte] did you listen to urself? AFTER LIVING IN NIGERIA FOR SOMETIME! People like you can't think for themslves. They just copy directly whatever they see the oyinbos do simply because of inferiority complex. For ur information, I grow up in both societies so I can't be brainwashed. I am not one of those people that desperately seek greener pastures abroad simply because they assumed they can never make it in Nigeria. When such people get abroad, they completely abadon whateva they have cos of inferiority complex. Unlike you, I spend every holiday abroad from time immemorial and I don't mean a single country and continent so the inferiority complex that makes first time traveller like you cringe at the sight of anything foreign has never been an issue for me. And its so funny that your so called enviroment did not play any part in your civility. I tut u said u lived among people with different religious background( not atheist like u initially made us believe) and u said u people mind your business. So unfortunate u are not reflecting your society on nairaland. What you were trying to say is that they respect the views of individuals so why are u always on nairaland abusing oyedepo and co. Why can't u leave him and his God like your more civil neigbours are doing

helpee:
did you listen to urself? AFTER LIVING IN NIGERIA FOR SOMETIME! People like you can't think for themslves. They just copy directly whatever they see the oyinbos do simply because of inferiority complex. For ur information, I grow up in both societies so I can't be brainwashed. I am not one of those people that desperately seek greener pastures abroad simply because they assumed they can never make it in Nigeria. When such people get abroad, they completely abadon whateva they have cos of inferiority complex. Unlike you, I spend every holiday abroad from time immemorial and I don't mean a single country and continent so the inferiority complex that makes first time traveller like you cringe at the sight of anything foreign has never been an issue for me. And its so funny that your so called enviroment did not play any part in your civility. I tut u said u lived among people with different religious background( not atheist like u initially made us believe) and u said u people mind your business. So unfortunate u are not reflecting your society on nairaland. What you were trying to say is that they respect the views of individuals so why are u always on nairaland abusing oyedepo and co. Why can't u leave him and his God like your more civil neigbours are doing

2good:

FYI I stopped attending church and praying 18 years ago when i was still very much in Nigeria, so dont start what you dont know. I was also non religious during my bachelors studies in Nigeria in the midst of religious madness. Many oyinbo's are christians but they dont go about forcing it in the throat of others like you religious Nigerians do. Religion should be a personal thing but in a situation where everybody around you as a Nigerian attached every single part of your life to a belief system you do not share, then it is problem and that is the problem you all have in Nigeria.

PA1982:

How's the curse working out?

helpee:
,  When God told abraham he would beget a child, do u actually think that the prophecy was real after about 50yrs wtout fulfilment. ,

PA1982:

^^^
Cheap insults don't prove your point.



@helpee
Err,  go back to the OT

<< Genesis 18 >>
New American Standard Bible
8He took curds and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and placed it before them; and he was standing by them under the tree as they ate.

      9Then they said to him, “Where is Sarah your wife?” And he said, “There, in the tent.” 10He said, “I will surely return to you at this time next year; and behold, Sarah your wife will have a son.” And Sarah was listening at the tent door, which was behind him. 11Now Abraham and Sarah were old, advanced in age; Sarah was past childbearing. 12Sarah laughed to herself, saying, “After I have become old, shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?” 13And the LORD said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I indeed bear a child, when I am so old?’ 14“Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you, at this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”

You've misunderstood the prophecy. 50 years didn't pass before the prophetic pronouncement and the  birth of Isaac.

dekung:

@Fxking,
why is It that when a reference fails to support your argument you discard it and label it invalid. You run arround everywhere trying to corroborate your position with half truths and twisted theology. The new american standard bible suddenly becomes invalid and fake even though some of the men of dog you listen and hold in high esteem quote texts from this same version so drive home whatever point they want to make. Do you know that some of those transalations are revised from king James, they are translated from the original texts. So you would rather rely on 17th century translation of the bible. How come you are not using telegram to send messages now? Now explain to the house what 'according to the time of your life' means in 21st century english language.

FXKing2012:

My friend this is not a matter of translation, this is pure distortion. How does "according to the time of life" mean the same as "at this time next year"? This is nothing but distortion.
Do you think all Bibles out there is the genuine thing? Some have been badly distorted by men who translated them just to suit their own purpose.

And to answer your question, according to the time of  life means in your lifetime.