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Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by ceejayluv(m): 4:17pm On Feb 14, 2012
tttonero:

Poster, go and seek medical help.
This is the result when brother and sister  inbreed.
slow human being, full of hate.
you are the one that needs psychological help. You're a deviant perv. Probably u were sodomised at 11 by an uncle (it runs in d blood) and u ended up a placard-carryin, rights-demandin gay.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 4:45pm On Feb 14, 2012
OP, you want to replace lesbianism with fornication, to God both are sins that requires repentance.

The world's moral compass is bent and its getting worse by the day, People are in court asking for siblings to be legally married, mothers want a right to sleep with their sons, morgue attendants sleeps with corpses (the corpses are not being hurt), married men think it is just impossible to be faithful to a woman (some scientist say we were wired as polygamist).

For me they are all different types of temptations that should be resisted.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by eghost247(m): 4:49pm On Feb 14, 2012
^^^^ Lol
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Oxone(m): 5:10pm On Feb 14, 2012
rabzy:

OP, you want to replace lesbianism with fornication, to God both are sins that requires repentance.

The world's moral compass is bent and its getting worse by the day, People are in court asking for siblings to be legally married, mothers want a right to sleep with their sons, morgue attendants sleeps with corpses (the corpses are not being hurt), married men think it is just impossible to be faithful to a woman (some scientist say we were wired as polygamist).

For me they are all different types of temptations that should be resisted.



interesting!!!
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by kunyeo(m): 5:24pm On Feb 14, 2012
Talking with her with the hope of convincing her is just like cutting the leaves of a tree with the belief that you have killed the tree.Lesbianism has a deep spiritual root. Watch out for your own self so that you are not drawn into the act.Satan is very clever.He only needs to throw a boy-related disapppointment before you and you will begin to nurse the thought of gaining comfort in the arms of another girl. Watch out please.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by scribble: 5:47pm On Feb 14, 2012
A lot of our women have turned gays for the following reason:

1. Western influences, like Beyonce, Lady Gaga, NIcki Minaj and Rihanna who all cater to Lesbian ideals by using their music and visual arts to showcase that "Lesbianism is okay"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_icon

2. Pornography

3. Heart break and stories of heart break

4. Peer pressure

Lesbianism is something else in the south south though especially Oil towns, I know it will be all dem Chevron, Shell and co expats that turned our girls out with money, drugs and videotapes.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by baryore(f): 7:17pm On Feb 14, 2012
I personally believe she can stop. If you pray for her and tell her that God does not encourage such. Tell God to give you the words to say to her and you will be surprised at how she will change. Trust GOD on this for her if you really love her. smiley
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Mobinga: 7:36pm On Feb 14, 2012
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Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by vislabraye(m): 8:01pm On Feb 14, 2012
@poster, You might be wasting your time. Do you really love her or you ? What if you convince her to become straight and she changes but another man comes along and take her?
I think you should look somewhere else. You can never change anybody by your own strenght. .
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by ommo(m): 8:36pm On Feb 14, 2012
@ op, ask yourself these questions, 1. "hw geniue is your feeling for her, 2. are u ready to endure & sacrifice your comfort for her? 3. Are u interested in a lasting relationship dat will lead to marriage. Be really sure of what u are abt to enter into. Bcose, if u re nt careful, instead of helping, u will end up driving her deep into it rather. Having said that, if u're certain of your feeling & u really want to help. U can do it. I WISH U ALL THE BEST & SUCCESS.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by pvee(m): 10:06pm On Feb 14, 2012
Take it to the Lord in prayer for its more spiritual than Physical that's why she ll never give you any tangible strong reason. Change is possible!
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by kemmeye: 11:05pm On Feb 14, 2012
well i believe a real lesbian would not go sleep with a man in the first um it doesnt work like that but you cant change her if she's attracted to women well then she is its ok to be attracted to the same sex in this world we now live in
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Nobody: 12:57am On Feb 15, 2012
Even dogs in their lust know how to do this the right way. If animals can do things right with their little brain, why should we do something lowly compared to them. @poster: a change is very possible but you have to be very prayerful for her because believe it or not this is very much spiritual than you may think. Also be sure of what you want from her as this goes a long way in speaking volume of her response
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by dasparrow: 1:23am On Feb 15, 2012
rabzy:

OP, you want to replace lesbianism with fornication, to God both are sins that requires repentance.

The world's moral compass is bent and its getting worse by the day, People are in court asking for siblings to be legally married, mothers want a right to sleep with their sons, morgue attendants sleeps with corpses (the corpses are not being hurt), married men think it is just impossible to be faithful to a woman (some scientist say we were wired as polygamist).

For me they are all different types of temptations that should be resisted.


My point exactly. In the eyes of God, both ho.mos.exuality and forni.cation/adult.ary is wrong. The bible makes it clear that neither fornica.tors nor ad.ulters will make it into heaven. Please read: 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 and proverbs 6:32. Nigerians never seize to amaze me because if we are such sanctimonous people, why is fornic.ation and adul.tary not frowned upon in our society? Do we think that these forms of s.ex.ua.l immoralities are any better than homos.exuali.ty? Open your bibles, read and educate yourselves because the same way the bible condemns hom.ose.xu.als is the same way it condemns people who are sleeping with other people's spouses or sleeping with people they are not legally married to which is very prevalent in Nigeria. If you are going to condemn ho.mosex.ual.ity, you might as well condemn fornica.tion and adu.ltary as well and stop being a hypocrite.

Lastly, I think that some of these girls turn homosexual because they were s.exuall.y abused by their fathers, houseboys, male family members and what have you when they were kids. Once a female has been traumatized as a result of r/a/p/e or s.exua.l molestation, I doubt she will ever enjoy any sort of pen.etr.at.ion again. Since many Nigerian males love to r/a/p/e like no man's business and Nigerian society chooses to keep mute or turn a blind eye to this societal menace, they should not be suprised when more and more females grow up and choose to become lesbians. Nigerian males should learn to stop using their p/en.is to commit bodily harm and atrocities on females because the negative consequences could linger on for life.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 2:40am On Feb 15, 2012
@dadicvila: From your comments, its quite obvious that you are indeed a highly uneducated fool. My sëxual orientation is none of your damn business but if you must know what my sëxual orientation is, stop being such a dimwitted fool and ask instead of delving into the foolishness that you seem to believe is your intelligence. It's good to know though that you take great pride in displaying your foolish ways online. It takes a lot of courage for a fool like you to do that. With that being said, I must commend your for this overt display of buffoonery. You are nothing more than a inbred fool. You sit around here telling us how wrong it is for this young woman to be a lesbian YET within that thing you call a brain you have the audacity to open your mouth and tell us that you slept wither her. Last time I checked, no sin was greater or lesser than the other. You being a heterosexual male who partakes in casual sex does not make you any better than her.

@sammirano: It's not about being a believer or not. Stop trying to push your religious beliefs onto others. In case your one of those people who still believes that the world is still flat, I must tell you, there are other people out there in this world who do not share your religious beliefs and as an global citizen you must learn to respect that--the same goes to that inbred fool that calls himself dadicvila .

@kambili190: Who told you that she wasn't born that way? Are you her? Are you a part of her body? Did you grow up with her? Do you know her personally? It's people like you and your foolish notions that contribute to the ongoing and highly illogical notions that existance. If you and every other homophobe like, you can all bury your heads in the sand and act as though people cannot be born gay. Whether or not you believe it doesn't change the fact that there are indeed people in this world who are just like that. You and your likes are nothing more than religious hypocrites. You go around preaching about love and acceptance yet you open that filthly hole in your face and spew hatred. Unless you or any other religious zealot is free of sin, then I suggest you keep your mouth shut.

@Chookym: It doesn't matter if he treats her as if he were a woman having sëx with her. Bottom line is, he is not a woman having sëx with her!! Just as she as a woman can never satisfy a gay man's sëxual needs and desires, he as a man cannot satisfy her sëxual needs and desires. If it was as simple as you all make it out to be, there's be a lot of people who could easily change their sëxual orientation.

@dancewith: Whether or not her sëxual orientation is based on nature or nuture is not for you or anyone else to decide. Just like you and everyone else on this thread, you're not the girl so you do not know what her life entails in terms of her sëxual orientation.

odiaero:

@OP, I also need to convince u that fornication is wrong, correct urself first, then u can think bout correcting the girl

How can he correct himself when he hides under the cloak of religious hypocrisy?

pelezico:

What does the bible say about Lesbianism ?  The bible in Leviticus Ch 18:22 ‘Do not have intimate relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable' 23 'Do not have intimate relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have intimate relations with it; that is a perversion.'  I quoted  verse 23 purposely

For those who think that this is some old testament law that does not apply today please read

Romans 1:26 - 27

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural intimate relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

So homosexuality is perversion and needs to be repented of, if not then that person (as well as the adulterer) will face Gods reasonable justice which is hell.

However for those Christians who unjustly condemn homo and lesbians please read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate[homosexuals], nor abusers of themselves with mankind[could be a reference to sodomy],
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you. But ye are washed, ye are sanctified, ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

So homosexuals can be saved as i have witnessed in my church.

The reason why Paul confronted the issue of homosexuality was because it was rife in much of the Hellenised world of that time.  Child molestation was quite normal, bestiality was quite normal and necrophilia (sex with dead things) were quite normal.  These things were praciticed openly by much of the Roman world.  I say thsi painfully but we are quite quickly heading back to a Roman state rule governance world wide.

To the poster my conviction would be to leave her alone.  The bible says that when you fornicate you are joined to that person.  Make no mistake you will curse yourself.  Run for dear life.  Unless you both repent and embrace Godly theology how on Earth will you deal with issues of HEALING.   

And what does this same Bible say about people who don't listen to priests, encourages murder, a woman not being a virgin, and the many other that you and your likes seem to willing over look?

People Who Don't Listen to Priests:
Deuteronomy 17:12
Kill Witches - Exodus 22:17
Death for Cursing Parents - Proverbs 20:20
Death for Adultery - Leviticus 20:10
Death to Followers of Other Religions - Exodus 22:19
Kill Nonbelievers - Chronicles 15:12-13
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God - Deuteronomy 13:13-19
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath - Exodus 31:12-15

The Bible Encourages Murder:
Kill All of Babylon - Jeremiah 50:21-22
Kill Followers of Other Religions - Numbers 25:1-9
Kill Sons of Sinners - Isaiah 14:21
God Will Kill Children - Hosea 9:11-16
Kill Old Men and Young Women - Jeremiah 51:20-26

Premarital Sex:
“A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.” Deuteronomy 22:13-21

More than half of you people who foolishly sit around and throw their pseudo religious beliefs in the face of others as means of imposing their religious views are sinners as well. I find it very amusing that you religious zealots have the impudence to sit around and tell someone else how to live when despite what you believe, you are guilty of "sins" no better [or worse] than that of homosexuality. Last time I checked, "sin" was "sin". A lot of you ignorant fools have perhaps commited adultery, stolen, lied, and in many cases, fornicated YET you are the say people here who are more than happy to shove your Bibles down the throats of others. If you truly are a Christian as you claim to be, then leave people be and let "God" deal with them like you all claim he will. The Bible was not written by "God", but by men. I don't you people here on Nairaland going on some personal tirade on those who have extamarital affairs, steal, or fornicate. In many cases, some of you even cheer and encourage those who have stolen, cheated, lied, and had premarital sex.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 2:41am On Feb 15, 2012
pelezico:

I live in the West and can see the damage that homosexuality does to the individual - dont believe the Liberal hype because its nothing but propagandist hype.  There lifestyle is deeply depraved and violent.  
They are doing a good job using the media (the gay lobbyist is very powerful) and they are forcing Governments worldwide to stop people from critiquing there lifestyle thru threat of jail time and financial penalties

It comes down to this - the homo simply wants all intimate mores to be done away with completely so they can openly practice what they do behind close doors.  There are groups in Europe and the US who want the institution of the family to be done away with.  They see nothing wrong in child intimate molestation or Inbreeding.  

So the African knows what he is up against while the West is drifting morally into oblivion.  When good men say nothing evil prevails.  

The only propoganda is from people like you who preach one thing and do another. Because you have a personal religious agenda, your main objective here is to impose your religious views on those who do not share these views.

Okija_juju:

Schwepps!!  angry

As in how na?!  angry

Ogini kpata this nonsense?!

O.K!! I'll rephrase, "Kill all faggo'ts, but lat my fellow lesbians be"  tongue . . .

Na by force to like man!!

Get over yourself! Did I ask you to befriend a gay man? Did I ask you to sleep with a gay man? All I did was poke a hole in the foolish notions that you're spewing. No one is asking you to like gay men but there are basic things of common sense that you clearly do not possess.

SimonAndal:

I'm confused. Are you male, female, lesbian (if female)? What are you?
You know, calling a gay guy a f***t is identical to the white man calling you a n**ga. It's hurtful.

It's funny how some Black people can go out of their way to spew derogatory names at others when they themseleves have endured the same thing.

scribble:

A lot of our women have turned gays for the following reason:

1. Western influences, like Beyonce, Lady Gaga, NIcki Minaj and Rihanna who all cater to Lesbian ideals by using their music and visual arts to showcase that "Lesbianism is okay"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_icon

2. Indecency

3. Heart break and stories of heart break

4. Peer pressure

Lesbianism is something else in the south south though especially Oil towns, I know it will be all dem Chevron, Shell and co expats that turned our girls out with money, drugs and videotapes.

Wow, for you to even sit here and come up with such reasons only goes to shows the lack of sense and understanding that you have. You use the western society as a reason yet I didn't see you complaining when it was the same west that imposed Christianity on you forefathers and foremothers, decemated your people, räped, stole your land, and slaughtered your children as though they were animals. You use the notion of pörn as a reason as to why women are lesbiäns yet what you fail to realize is that pörn in not a new or recent phenomenon within our existance as human beings. For centuries, pörn has existed in various societies ALL OVER THE WORLD and in various forms. Just because now we can see moving visual images doesn't change the fact that is has long been a part of our journey on Earth. Your next excuse, heartbreak is an even more foolish excuse as well. Heartbreak is not a new emotion to us as human beings. How many men have their hearts broken then vow to degrade and disrespect women? Anyone can get their heart broken regardless of their sexuäl orientation. What excuse will you make for those who have never dated someone of the opposite sex and have still gotten their hearts broken? Do you see them going out of their way to go date heterosexuals due to a broken heart? Peer pressure much like all the other things you've mentioned is just pure stupidity. While people can be influenced by others, its not to say that someone else can just dicatate one's sëxual orientation. We are all freethinking individuals. No one is "turning your girls" out. Sadly, that idiotic belief is all in your head.

kemmeye:

well i believe a real lesbian would not go sleep with a man in the first um it doesnt work like that but you cant change her if she's attracted to women well then she is its ok to be attracted to the same sex in this world we now live in

Sexuality isn't as simplistic as you make it out to be. Believe it or not, there are indeed people who are lesbians or gay and have had sëxual encounters with people of the opposite sex.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Divaifylor(f): 4:23am On Feb 15, 2012
This gay and lesbian topic is very touchy so I wouldn't like to say much. My question is is homosexuality part of human evolution? For someone like a masai man in Kenya who is still centuries back does d fact dat he can't b gay make any point i.e does it mean dat only d knowledge of d existence of d fact dat 1 can b a homosexual actually make pple blieve they are homosexual because I don't blieve one can find a gay person in d Masai 4 example? My opinion on dis issue is evolving and whether or not I am 4 or against I judge no 1,I live by d policy do un2 others as u want them to do un2 u
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 7:14am On Feb 15, 2012
Divaifylor:

This gay and lesbian topic is very touchy so I wouldn't like to say much. My question is is homosexuality part of human evolution? For someone like a masai man in Kenya who is still centuries back does d fact dat he can't b gay make any point i.e does it mean dat only d knowledge of d existence of d fact dat 1 can b a gay actually make pple blieve they are gay because I don't blieve one can find a gay person in d Masai 4 example? My opinion on dis issue is evolving and whether or not I am 4 or against I judge no 1,I live by d policy do un2 others as u want them to do un2 u

Its gat nothing to do with Evolution, there have been gays and Lesbianism for thousands of years. Some of these masai herders might have been having it with their Cattles, as some Fulani herders do. So for them to have gays amongst them is highly likely, it is highly likely in any society.

There are boys who have been acting like girls since they were 2yrs and its not because they were bought girly stuff and vice-versa. There are wo/men who have fully developed or partially developed male members and are naturally attracted to other women.
There are some whose husbands have not satisfied them sexually and their best experience has been with another woman maybe in the boarding school, when they hook up with some of these their friends it starts all over again.

The fallen flesh is susceptible to different kinds of emotional, mental and physical variation. 

(Romans 1:24-27) . . .Therefore God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them, 25 even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the One who created, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 That is why God gave them up to disgraceful intimate appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27 and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.

Now its not just about sexuality alone or a particular kind of sexuality, its a whole gamut of human deviant behaviour.

There are people who honestly believe they are animals and they act and behave like a particular kind of animal. There was a man who desperately wanted someone to eat him and there was someone who wanted to eat people, both of them met, and he was promptly eaten. He even wanted to participate in the eating himself but he had lost so much blood and was weak.

There are people who derive intimate pleasure from being beaten and there are some who also derive intimate pleasure from eating faeces.

Man has fallen and keeps falling deeper into a quagmire of obnoxious behaviour.
It is either you see yours or such behaviour as wrong and you look for an inner strength or if you are religious, a spiritual strength to break off or you resign and conclude there is little you can do about it and accept yourself that way and tell everyone, your parents, or God,the society or the constitution to buzz off.

Its harder for some to change due to different reasons but the choice is still in our hands.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by dadicvila(m): 8:02am On Feb 15, 2012
@inked Nerd you sound like you were was sexually abused by your dad as a toddler,my message for you is that all men are not like your always drunk and immoral father who is now 6ft below,there are good men out there who wunt rape their babies the way your father raped you till you ran away from home and became a lesbian queen,recruiting small girls and telling them lies that they were born gays,thunder strike dat ur rotten mouth you use in sucking the punny of other girls, you this pervert,very soon you will be making threads defending your right to sleep with horses and pigs after you are tired of sucking punny,b4 then you will die of 1 strange and new disease, is it by force to accept the lie that some people were born pervertswhy are u attacking everybody who opposes you on this thread lyk a mad dog with rabies??if i slept with her and still want to change her is it your wahalayou are a confirmed FOOL,watch the way u go about recruiting small girls into your dark art,very soon nemesis will catch up with you,Ewu gambia,
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by kambili190: 8:41am On Feb 15, 2012
@Inked Nerd

If you read my postings carefully, you would know that I am not homophobic at all. I didn't say she wasn't born that way, I just said that people usually discover they sexual orientation later on. Kids are normally not interested in sex. Many gays say that it was around puberty that they discovered they feel attracted to the same sex. The same goes for people who are straight. They are not interested in the other sex unless they develop sexual desires and that is not during childhood. I don't get why you angry at me. I don't support homophobi. I support tolearnce.

And for those who compare humans to animals. Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom. So it'd nt unnatural.
If you refer to the Bible, know that you have no right to throw stones at others!
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 9:08am On Feb 15, 2012
dadicvila:

@inked Nerd you sound like you were was sexually abused by your dad as a toddler,my message for you is that all men are not like your always drunk and immoral father who is now 6ft below,there are good men out there who wunt violation their babies the way your father violated you till you ran away from home and became a lesbian queen,recruiting small girls and telling them lies that they were born gays,thunder strike dat ur rotten mouth you use in sucking the punny of other girls, you this pervert,very soon you will be making threads defending your right to sleep with horses and pigs after you are tired of sucking punny,b4 then you will die of 1 strange and new disease, is it by force to accept the lie that some people were born pervertswhy are u attacking everybody who opposes you on this thread lyk a mad dog with rabies??if i slept with her and still want to change her is it your wahalayou are a confirmed FOOL,watch the way u go about recruiting small girls into your dark art,very soon nemesis will catch up with you,Ewu gambia,

Lmao, na wa for you. Now I truly see you for the inbred vile pig that you are. No my dimwitted fool, I was never abused by my father or any other individual for that matter. Even if I had been, it only shows how much of a insensitive bastard you are to the suffering of those who have endured such pain in their life. My friend, you are indeed a pitiful excuse for a human being. Unlike the perhaps poverty and illiterate stricken environment you were raised in, my father is nothing like what you've described. Unlike the pathetic and vile creature you've grown up to be, I know damn well that not every man in this world is like you nor do they posses the sort of inferior intellicence that you do. But like I said before, I must commend your for this overt display of buffoonery. May your devine creator forever bless you with the ability to entertain me and the rest of the world with your stupidity. Clearly you have been raised without proper home training hence your disgusting desire to wish death upon my wonderful father. My dear, please do not be jealous of what you can never attain. I understand that it must be hard for you to be an unloved child but please don't taking it out on my beloved father. YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITE!!!! You make no damn sense yet you have the galls to open the pitiful thing you call a mouth and say that you slept with her. Oya, clap for yourself you hypocrite bastard. You are proud of yourself abi? You fix a "sin" with another "sin" abi? Na you be miracle worker? Look fool, I don't know what hell hole you crawled out of but you better take yourself back there. I can't wait till you continue pursuing this girl only to realize that she's using you and your money to take care of her own girlfriend(s). Mumu! You're here asking "if i slept with her and still want to change her is it your wahala", lemme make something very clear to you since you obviously have no brain, you came here to a PUBLIC forum asking for advice for something that you felt was an issue no one came to you. It was you who came here seeking advice. Like others on this thread, I porvided you with a response and your stupidly asking me what is my concern?!?! Get over yourself you village buffoon. If you didn't want a response from anyone or expected that everyone would just sit and come to a general concensus that worked in your favor them I must tell you, my dear, you're in the wrong place. I don't know what it is that you think the world is like but I'll let you know one thing, the real wold does not consist of people who will be your "yes man". I suggest you wake the hell up because such nonsense doesn't exist in this world. You are a selfish bastard and even more. If you do not already know that, then now you know.

kambili190:

@Inked Nerd

If you read my postings carefully, you would know that I am not homophobic at all. I didn't say she wasn't born that way, I just said that people usually discover they intimate orientation later on. Kids are normally not interested in sex. Many gays say that it was around puberty that they discovered they feel attracted to the same sex. The same goes for people who are straight. They are not interested in the other sex unless they develop intimate desires and that is not during childhood. I don't get why you angry at me. I don't support homophobi. I support tolearnce.

And for those who compare humans to animals. Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom. So it'd nt unnatural.
If you refer to the Bible, know that you have no right to throw stones at others!

Whether or not she realized she was a lësbian in her early teens or as a child is irrelivent. She has stated that she is a lësbian and that should be respected regardless of when her personal consciousness of her sexuality emerged. And contrary to what you may believe, children do indeed think about sex. If you don't know this already, children mästurbätë just as adults do. Though each individual reason for the act is somewhat different from that of adults it is still sëxual pleasure nonetheless. And I'm sorry for the harsh tone I exhibited with you. I wasn't angry though.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 9:31am On Feb 15, 2012
kambili190:

And for those who compare humans to animals. Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom. So it'd nt unnatural.
If you refer to the Bible, know that you have no right to throw stones at others!

I would say that homosexuality is unnatural strictly based on the Bible's view, the Bible said it is an unnatural use of the body.

But its not everybody that believe the Bible has authority over them or over anything.
Am not a scientist nor a psychologist, but it can be said and based on the survival of the fittest and natural self-preservation, there is no way the gene would code itself to naturally extinct itself which would happen with same sex relationship. It would be against the very basis of evolution.

During most if not all same-sex acts there is an innate desire/ a feeling/a longing to be pe.netra.ted or to pe.netrate. This feeling can normally/naturally only be satisfied during heterosexual acts. Am not sure there is any who naturally without any previous traumatic experience not have that tingling desire to be touched inside.

Then going into the animal kingdom (scientist say we a part of the kingdom).

These are some of the things normal animals do:

Mothers eat their babies
They eat faeces
They rape the female species
Goats easily ride their mothers
They eat their species.
They copulate with dead ones.
They are cross-species copulation.
Some females eat their male partners during sex.
Some copulate with their newborns.

Now which of these which is natural to animals can we say is natural to humans. And if any is natural to humans or a particular person or group of people in the society, should they be socially acceptable by all.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 9:50am On Feb 15, 2012
rabzy:

I would say that homosexuality is unnatural strictly based on the Bible's view, the Bible said it is an unnatural use of the body.

But its not everybody that believe the Bible has authority over them or over anything.
Am not a scientist nor a psychologist, but it can be said and based on the survival of the fittest and natural self-preservation, there is no way the gene would code itself to naturally extinct itself which would happen with same sex relationship. It would be against the very basis of evolution.

During most if not all same-sex acts there is an innate desire/ a feeling/a longing to be pe.netra.ted or to pe.netrate. This feeling can normally/naturally only be satisfied during heterosexual acts. Am not sure there is any who naturally without any previous traumatic experience not have that tingling desire to be touched inside.

Then going into the animal kingdom (scientist say we a part of the kingdom).

These are some of the things normal animals do:

Mothers eat their babies
They eat faeces
They violation the female species
Goats easily ride their mothers
They eat their species.
They Reproduce with dead ones.
They are cross-species Reproduction.
Some females eat their male partners during sex.
Some Reproduce with their newborns.

Now which of these which is natural to animals can we say is natural to humans. And if any is natural to humans or a particular person or group of people in the society, should they be socially acceptable by all.

You saying that during most if not all same-sex acts there is an innate desire, feeling, a longing to be pënetratëd or to pënetratë is highly untrue. I could have understood if you had said 'some' but to say most, is highly unfounded. I know many lesbians and gay men who can disprove this belief of yours yet I don't go around saying that just because those few enjoy sex without pënëtration that it dictates a good majority of the population. Can you please show me how you came to such a conclusion?
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 10:45am On Feb 15, 2012
Inked_Nerd:


You saying that during most if not all same-sex acts there is an innate desire, feeling, a longing to be pënetratëd or to pënetratë is highly untrue. I could have understood if you had said 'some' but to say most, is highly unfounded. I know many lesbians and gay men who can disprove this belief of yours yet I don't go around saying that just because those few enjoy sex without pënëtration that it dictates a good majority of the population. Can you please show me how you came to such a conclusion?


knowing some lesbians or gay who don't want it does not mean its not so, they might be lying (am not saying they are), or they might be some of those few. Have you tried sampling also those that love p.enetration and see the statistical proportion.

There has been reports of predominant use of fingers, toys in most gay sex. Gay sex on the internet are rife with the use of these aids. These would necessary mean that it is desired.

Moreso, sexologists have talked a lot about G.spot in women, which is said to be internal, if that is the case, would it not explain why most women would want to be stimulated there regardless of sex.ual orientation.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 10:56am On Feb 15, 2012
rabzy:

knowing some lesbians or gay who don't want it does not mean its not so, they might be lying (am not saying they are), they might be some of those few. Have you tried sampling also those that love p.enetration.

There has been reports of predominant use of fingers, toys in most gay sex. Gay sex on the internet are rife with the use of these aids. These would necessary mean that it is desired.

Moreso, sexologists have talked a lot about G.spot in women, which is said to be internal, if that is the case, would it not explain why most women would want to be stimulated there regardless of intimate orientation.

Where did I say that me knowing some made it not true? What I said, "I know many lesbians and gay men who can disprove this belief of yours yet I don't go around saying that just because those few enjoy sex without pënëtration that it dictates a good majority of the population.". And me using the word 'few' doesn't necessarily mean that they are few within the general population. I used the word as a means of giving a generalized amount of those that I know. Please provide these reports that you say justify your opinion because at this point, that's all it is. Whether or not there is actually a "center of gravity" is still debatable among those within the intimate health medical field. center of gravity aside, there are other areas of the body that can provide the same Glorious effects. You simply giving the center of gravity as an example still doesn't explain anything that you claim.
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Charlestotle(m): 11:27am On Feb 15, 2012
It is very possible to change her!!!! Yes very very, try and read her feelings and know who she likes most, follow her up wt calls and sms, If u convert her God will acknolegde you and ur pursuit, Tell her reasons why she mst change and always remind her,dt a life wtout stress is no good life, and dts y she mst fall in love wt a man and nt a woman dt cannot mak a feel like a real woman, try and connect me to you and her as well so i can talk to her, 08183940843
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Oxone(m): 11:40am On Feb 15, 2012
Charlestotle:

It is very possible to change her!!!! Yes very very, try and read her feelings and know who she likes most, follow her up wt calls and sms, If u convert her God will acknolegde you and ur pursuit, Tell her reasons why she mst change and always remind her,dt a life wtout stress is no good life, and dts y she mst fall in love wt a man and nt a woman dt cannot mak a feel like a real woman, try and connect me to you and her as well so i can talk to her, 08183940843

And u had to create a new account just to post this?  undecided undecided undecided
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by InkedNerd(f): 11:45am On Feb 15, 2012
Oxone:

And u had to create a new account just to post this?  undecided undecided undecided

Oxone, your such a cutie pie kiss kiss kiss
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Olami099(m): 12:23pm On Feb 15, 2012
@inked nerd,longest time my dear friend.can u still remember me?lets chat on y.messanger, @every1,try and respect inked comment she is a good and knowledgeable person.concerning this topic i slightly disagree with ur view inked this tym around,i wil tel u d reason, get exams 2 write in few hrs tym,happy to hear 4rm u on n/l again inked_nerd lov u,
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by Oxone(m): 12:45pm On Feb 15, 2012
Inked_Nerd:


Oxone, your such a cutie pie kiss kiss kiss


Thanks dear! kiss kiss kiss
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 12:55pm On Feb 15, 2012
too much substitution
Re: How Can I Convince Her That Lesbianism Is Wrong? by rabzy: 12:59pm On Feb 15, 2012
Inked_Nerd:


Where did I say that me knowing some made it not true? What I said, "I know many lesbians and gay men who can disprove this belief of yours yet I don't go around saying that just because those few enjoy sex without pënëtration that it dictates a good majority of the population.". And me using the word 'few' doesn't necessarily mean that they are few within the general population. I used the word as a means of giving a generalized amount of those that I know. Please provide these reports that you say justify your opinion because at this point, that's all it is. Whether or not there is actually a "center of gravity" is still debatable among those within the intimate health medical field. center of gravity aside, there are other areas of the body that can provide the same Glorious effects. You simply giving the center of gravity as an example still doesn't explain anything that you claim.


In 1987, a non-scientific study (Munson) was conducted of more than 100 members of a lesbian social organization in Colorado. When asked what techniques they used in their last 10 love.making sessions, 100% were for kissing, sucking on ni.pples, and manual stimulation of the clit.oris; more than 90% reported French kiss.ing, MouthAction, and fingers inserted into the va.gina; and 80% reported tribadism.

98% of the whole sample gave a history of sex.ual activity with women, 83% within the past year, with a median of one female partner in that year. 85% of the sample reported intimate activity with men; for most (70%) this was 4 or more years ago. First intimate experience tended to be with a man (median 18 years old), with first sex.ual experience with a woman a few years later (median 21 years). Or.al sex , vag.ina.l penetration with fingers, and mutual masturba.tion were the most commonly reported se.xual practices between women. V.aginal penetration with joystick or fingers and mutual masturbati.on were the most commonly reported intimate activities with men, http://sti.bmj.com/content/79/2/147.full

PHILADELPHIA -- L.esbians under age 30 commonly practice va.ginal penetrative sex manually or with intimacy gadgets, "Participants in all four groups reported that vagin.al penetrative practices using se.x toys and fingers/hands were practiced commonly. A.nal penetrative sex was also mentioned in each group," she said.

Of the 10 women in the 18-22 age group, 7 reported using a v.aginal insertion intimacy gadget, and 6 said they cleaned the toy between use on themselves and use on a partner. Of the 14 women in the 23-29 age group, 11 reported both toy use and cleaning.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_10_39/ai_n6078885/

Vagin.al penetration by a partner’s finger or tongue is common, as is the insertion of foreign objects. Some lesbians use dildos to replace the sensations that accompany copulation with a man. But, because many dildos are shaped like a p.enis, some controversy exists in the lesbian community as to their use. Many lesbians reject dildos because they are male-defined, which clashes with the strong political beliefs of some lesbians.

Or.al sex is a very common practice by lesbians and includes in most if not all cases penetration of the va.gina by the tongue.  

Take note that these reports were done because of the high incidence of  bacterial vaginosis amongst lesbians as oppose to heteros, to determine why this is the case and what safety precautions should be followed to reduce the risk.

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