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LordReed:
How did I take it out of context?

He did not say Trump is Godly, rather that he's returning the country to Godliness. I'm pretty sure he meant restoring and promoting religious liberty.

LordReed:
LoL, the self deception on display here is amazing. Is it Donald Trump you are referring to as godly? LMAO. "Grab 'em by the pussy" is godly? Calling people fighting for justice "sons of bitches" is godly? Please go and pick up a dictionary and look up the meaning of godly before you type nonsense.

Why take the guy's comment out of context? Classic leftist tactics.

LordReed:
The burden is on you to prove Trump can sing the national anthem since that is your claim, I have already shown he can't.

I don't owe you any proof. I stated a fact. It's on youtube. You don't need too many keywords to search it.

imperiouxx:
I don't need to waste my time with this kind of comment.

ok

imperiouxx:
How is it 'Big lie' and 'Fake News' when some of the senators at the meeting confirmed it and the WH didn't deny it?

Let me rephrase: This has become #FakeNewsCNN news of the day.

This is Fake News MSM material for the day. Liberals will die over this news.


Packed studio to discuss Trump's "shithole" comment.

President Donald Trump referred to a group of nations that included African countries and Haiti as "shithole countries" during a meeting with a bipartisan group of senators on Thursday at the White House, a Democratic aide briefed on the meeting told NBC News.

Trump's comments were first reported by the Washington Post, which said the group of nations referenced also included El Salvador.

The comments came as senators huddled in the Oval Office with the president to discuss the path forward on an immigration deal. Trump questioned why the United States would want people from nations such as Haiti, while being briefed on changes to the visa lottery system.

According to the aide, when the group came to discussing immigration from Africa Trump asked why we want all these people from "all these shithole countries" and that the U.S. should have more people from places like Norway.

The White House issued a statement that did not deny the remarks.

"Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people," White House Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah told NBC Thursday afternoon, part of a lengthy statement that did not directly dispute the language reportedly used in the meeting.

"He will always reject temporary, weak and dangerous stopgap measures that threaten the lives of hardworking Americans, and undercut immigrants who seek a better life in the United States through a legal pathway."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-haiti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946

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LordReed:
When people make this kind of statement it usually indicates either they are not sure of the availability of the evidence or they have no frigging idea. If neither of the above were true you'd have pasted a link to at least one YouTube video.

I'm 100% sure you will find it on youtube.

Lucasbalo:
As an American, it's a shame to call him my president. The National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance is what basically any Second or Third Grader in America can recite without missing a beat but a 71 year old demented pig is unable. I can't wait the worthless and inept pig leaves the exalted Oval Office.

Loooong wait buddy. Brace up!

By the way, Trump can sing the national anthem. It'll only take you a youtube search to verify.

Finally, a woman wey get sense. Flirting is even risky these days.

brocab:
I am open to word when in reason-Not my own truth-God's truth-The objective truth, is the Word of God? If there were other books, I am sure the Catholic Church would have kept them together-so everybody could have the enjoyment from them, and not just the Catholic Church-"The writers of the Bible wrote not according to their own will or whim, but only as they were moved, or controlled, by the Spirit of God.

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/who-wrote-the-bible

If you say these other books were God's Word-then no-one has the rights to separate them, [s]what you may call the unfinished doctrines, God still speaks to us, with the left over scriptures. [/s]
I have never had God speak to me from any other book, its always been the bible-if these books were God's favoured's everybody would have them[color=#000099].

(2 Thessalonians 2:15) "Stand fast and hold firm to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours". Paul must have been talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one side demanding adherence to the written word only, and on the other urging fastidious adherence to both written and oral tradition. What do you think?

Also, (3 John 13-14) " I have much to write you, but I do not want to do so with pen and ink. I hope to see you soon, and we will talk face to face." Why would John emphasize his preference for oral tradition over written tradition in this instance if, as you assert, the scripture is superior to oral tradition?

In the very first letter of Paul to the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 11:2), "I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you." What does he mean by that, if earlier on in the same letter (1 Corinthians 4:6), he seems to be advocating sola scriptura?

brocab:
https://www.gotquestions.org/God-breathed.html

I myself am one to believe in the written Word of God-In other words I don't need other books to know Christ-the bottom line is-if you aren't Spirit filled, you are not walking with Christ. "these books in the bible were written by men who were filled with the Holy spirit, You claim to other books but what good is that to you-if you are not filled with the Holy Spirit?[/color]

Now it has come down to "yourself" and what you believe as your truth. Why don't you want to know the OBJECTIVE TRUTH? The TRUTH which does not depend on what you or I think or believe?

APGA going to the senate.

brocab:
But the Roman Catholicism adds to the Bible and expands the rule of faith.
Catholics look to both “written books and unwritten traditions,” thereby adding to the Bible the declarations of popes and bishops, papal bulls, and various councils. Catholics believe the Bible is God’s Word, but it is incomplete without the addition of these writings of men. Am I right-all you still don't the answer?

Progress!

Now, what do you mean by "writings of men"? For the Catholic church, it's oral tradition. Remember, the doctrine of the apostles came to them in oral form from Jesus. In one sense the entire Christian message is based on oral tradition before, out of necessity, the written form came to be.

If you need a Catholic reference on that: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/oral-tradition-in-the-new-testament

The last hope of common man. They did well although their rulings tend to 'come and go' like nepa or mobile network service.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7klMNkyhU

brocab:
Then if this is not the answer you are looking for, then at least explain, your answer..Simple

You explanation for rule of faith?

Lucasbalo:
Hungry Third world cretin. I know dabbling in American politics is your fetish but unfortunately you're still stuck in your cave. Meanwhile, enjoy your subhuman standard of living.

Pathetic snowflake son of an imp. Donald Trump is the president, and may I add he's the most powerful human being on earth right now! How's that TDS working out for you? You're evidently one meltdown away from suicide.

Dnaz:
The Bible is not the sole rule of the Christian faith

It's a No from you. Let's see if brocab will give a precise answer this time rather than filibustering.

brocab:
Well again and again let me explain it to you, this way-if its not in the Word of God that is written in the bible, then its a lie-and if the Catholic's fill they need to add other doctrines-that doesn't already line up with the Word of God-then it's a lie..
{2 Timothy 3:16} says that all Scripture is “God-breathed.” His Word sometimes gives us a warning, a word of encouragement, or a lesson for life. It’s ”His-story”–written with love as God’s guide for life, “so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

You are still evading the question. Is the bible the only rule of faith?

Lucasbalo:
Orange a*s licker. When it counts, you don't matter from the pit of hell you live.

I love it when you meltdown. Are you done reading the bestseller, mor0nic loser-in-life?

Lucasbalo:
Why don't you come and make trampy your president in Nigeria so he can rule you as he think people like you are ( Subhuman).

He remains POTUS whether you like it or not. Stop whining, it's new year.

Incase you haven't read Fire and Fury yet, knock yourself out and thank me later. https://blog.lusofonias.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Fire-and-Fury-Michael-Wolff.pdf

Last November, we were told "he was reportedly killed by a combined force of OSPAC (Onelga Security outfit) and other security agents in the state.... Waney’s death was also confirmed by the Caretaker Committee Chairman of Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni Local Government Area, ONELGA, of the state, Osi Olisa."

Someone please explain.

brocab:
Maybe if you were to get down to the point of how you would like me to answer your dodgy questions, you may receive a rightful answer..Your-Question: "What is the rule of faith?"
Answer: The phrase rule of faith does not appear in the Bible. It was first used in a statement by the early church writer Tertullian in his On Prescription Against Heretics.
The rule of faith is the set of standards that define a religion. Biblical Christianity holds the Bible to be its only rule of faith. The rule of faith may be different for different groups. In some cases, the standards are similar. In others, what may seem similar actually presents a vast and significant distinction.
Rules of faith in most religions rely on something other than or in addition to the Word of God, thereby denying the sufficiency of Scripture. Since the earliest days of Christianity, this heresy has survived and flourished.
The rule of faith among the Gnostics of the first century was based on the Scriptures plus a mystical knowledge gained only by those who had achieved a higher plane of enlightenment.
In direct contradiction to the Word of God, the Gnostics taught that salvation comes not by grace alone through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8–9) but by divine knowledge or some inner light possessed only by those of elevated spirituality.
Evangelical Protestants hold to the Bible alone as their rule of faith. This reflects their belief in the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture, which declares that the Bible alone is adequate to guide the Christian in all matters of faith and practice.
According to {2 Timothy 3:16–17} the Scriptures are profitable to make the believer “thoroughly equipped for every good work.” If we are thoroughly equipped by the Word of God, nothing more is needed. There are no degrees of “thoroughness.” To say we need something more than the Bible as a rule of faith is to say we are made “partially thoroughly” equipped by the Bible and need something more to make us “completely thoroughly” equipped.
Roman Catholicism adds to the Bible and expands the rule of faith. Catholics look to both “written books and unwritten traditions,” thereby adding to the Bible the declarations of popes and bishops, papal bulls, and various councils. Catholics believe the Bible is God’s Word, but it is incomplete without the addition of these writings of men.
One can justify a belief in just about anything if that belief is based on tradition, reason, and/or experience. Jesus expressly forbade equating tradition with Scripture as part of the rule of faith, accusing the Pharisees of nullifying the Word of God for the sake of their traditions (Mark 7:6–13)
Once the Word of God is rejected as the only rule of faith and practice, the door to heresy is opened and the genie is not easily put back into the bottle.
While it may be argued that the writers of the gospels and the epistles were offering their views and interpretations as they wrote, this is not the same as the declarations of the popes and bishops of Catholicism or of men like Joseph Smith. The New Testament writers were moved supernaturally by the Holy Spirit, who is the ultimate Author of Scripture. The biblical writers “spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:21)
The Bible itself asserts that believers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19) who teaches, interprets, brings truths to mind (John 14:26) and guides us into all truth (John 16:13)
For evangelical Christians, the Word of God and its Author are the true rule of faith. This is not to say that preachers and teachers are unnecessary. But the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture is a cornerstone of the evangelical rule of faith.

You don't have to quote verbatim a whole article to answer an easy question. One or few excerpts would have been fine although that's not what I expect for an answer. However, the article sort of dodged the question. It's like the author was arguing with himself.

Again, is the bible the only rule of faith?

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So you wan tell me say Emeka nwanne don broke? Ope o!

brocab:
Well again and again let me explain it to you, this way-if its not in the Word of God, then its a lie-and if the Catholic's are preaching another doctrine-that doesn't line up with the Word of God-then the Catholic's are lying to God, and His people.
Problematic or unbiblical? Did God say we must make images above, on earth or under the earth? {Exodus 20:4}
Did He say we must pray "TO" Mary and the saints? {Matthew 6:6}
Does {John 20:23} mean that Catholic priests can forgive sins? "No" it does not.
"If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained," (John 20:23).
Context is king when interpreting scripture, and this is no exception. Let's take a look.
"When therefore it was evening, on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you.” {20} And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side.
The disciples therefore rejoiced when they saw the Lord. {21} Jesus therefore said to them again, “Peace be with you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” {22} And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. {23} “If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained,” (John 20:19-23)
Where does it say in the bible God gave the priest the authority the gift to forgive sins? {Psalm 130:4, Mark 2:5}
The context of {John 20:23} is that Jesus was speaking to the disciples (19). He breathed on them to receive the Holy Spirit (22).
There is nothing in here about priests having the authority to forgive sins. There is nothing here (or anywhere else in the New Testament) about apostolic succession that says priests have the authority to forgive sins and that it is passed down.
And yet the priest claim the apostle Peter handed down this gift, to them-is Peter "God?
The Bible does mention appointing elders (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5) and that the disciples of Jesus had special authority (Matt. 16:18)
It speaks of the laying on of hands to receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:19) as well as ordaining men to the ministry
(1 Tim. 4:14; 2 Tim. 1:6; Titus 1:5)
At best, the laying on of hands deals with ordination--not apostolic authority being passed down. After all, they were ordaining elders and not apostles; and it was the apostles who were given the authority by Christ to do miracles and write scripture. Nothing is said here about apostolic authority being passed down.
If the Catholic's believe God is God, then serve God, in Spirit and in truth....

9inches:
What aspect of the Catholic Church's teachings concerning the bolded above do you find problematic or unbiblical?

I see you are dodging my question, deliberately.

2nd question: Is the bible the only rule of faith?

Sharp guy. He's dumping the girl.

brocab:
I have search the net about the different literature's about different religions, but than it all comes back to the bible-who deny's it? Who worships and prays after another, what does the bible say, we pray directly to the Father in Heaven, who has the authority other then the Lord Jesus Christ? Who is our mediator between God and man..Whom do we seek.
Which of the Catholic's do I seek that claim the truth, the hole truth and nothing but the truth? If I was to say-I know Christ, do I follow another? Do I pray through Mary and the saints? Do I bow down to an image, is the Pope my god on earth? Do I seek a priest to forgive sins? Is this written in the bible, "Certainly Not" whom do you seek?

What aspect of the Catholic Church's teachings concerning the bolded above do you find problematic or unbiblical?

brocab:
I like your call sign 9 inches, you are either bragging about it, or you would like to have 9 inches?
You are right I haven't met a Catholic that can honestly say they know Christ, other then my wife, but I have met the people, who claim to be Catholic, and don't know Christ, I was also brought into the Catholic Church when I was young, and it's not the Catholic name brand I am seeking, it is the people who hide behind the name Catholic, "People who are claiming to love God, know God, and deny God at the same time.

You should really get your mind out of the gutter. Why not ask me what my moniker means before insinuating.

brocab:
I have search the net about the different literature's about different religions, but than it all comes back to the bible-who deny's it? Who worships and prays after another, what does the bible say, we pray directly to the Father in Heaven, who has the authority other then the Lord Jesus Christ? Who is our mediator between God and man..Whom do we seek.
Which of the Catholic's do I seek that claim the truth, the hole truth and nothing but the truth? If I was to say-I know Christ, do I follow another? Do I pray through Mary and the saints? Do I bow down to an image, is the Pope my god on earth? Do I seek a priest to forgive sins? Is this written in the bible, "Certainly Not" whom do you seek?

What aspect of the Catholic Church's teachings concerning the bolded above do you find problematic?

brocab:
I agree on that too bro, but I also believe God can do miracles-I married a born and bread Catholic-one that had given Herself over to Christ-to become a born again Christian-as I believed-and later returned back to the Catholic Church, because she didn't want to leave her friends behind.
She told me the pentecostal's were to much for her, we preach the gospel like there's no tomorrow. {Thank God for that}
This is like, I am unevenly yoked? But I do believe God had not finished His work in her as yet-I don't believe she had given her life to Jesus because of me, Jesus said: By their fruit we will know them, and already I have seen signs-and wonders in her, she pray's directly to the Father, and she talks to Jesus, she sings and dances in worship for Jesus.
She speaks of Jesus as her Lord and savour. I haven't seen this much faith in Catholic's as much faith I have seen in my wife bro.
She go's through her spiritual battles, and the flesh fights against the spirit in many ways, she is struggling, against the spirit of the Church and against the Spirit of the Lord..

And I pray {Revelation 18:4, 2 Corinthians 6:17, Jeremiah 51:45} that someday the Lord will deliver her out of the Church that claims to be built upon Peter.

You probably haven't met real Catholics. You have been dealing with "I was raised Catholic" individuals and I don't blame you for not knowing or understanding the teachings of the Catholic Church from the Church itself. My guess is you've been drawing your judgement off the Catholics you have encounters with.
It's 2018, digital age. You really don't have to google around too much to know Catholic Encyclopedia and Catholic, among some others, can provide you with every position of the Catholic Church. At times, Catholic interpretation of some teachings in the bible are more nuanced than an average bible only protestant would easily grasp or assimilate during argument. And that is the issue.