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BlueMann:
He ruptured his ACL, and has undergone surgery

Gone till further notice

Na wa o. He's good. But injuries wan wreck him career

Ellexy:
Fofana out of the season. That guy is so unlucky with injuries mahn. Sad

Which season? The one wey never start?

AntiChristian:
Otem ko Otem ni!

Mumu, lols. It's like someone saying Einstein ko, Einstein ni when discussing Modern Physics.

Lols, Africans are so dull Even if Einstein himself were alive and read Otem's book, he'd be in awe of a mind that can produce that book.

That's not an exaggeration. Highly intelligent people know a higher being (which you religionists ignorantly call god/God) when they see one or come across one online (like the case of Otem).

Otem, Atum, Ifa, Soyinka, Einstein, Newton, Messi, Ronaldo, and many other greats in different fields are higher beings.

Enough said.

AntiChristian:
The concept of God/god (Elohim) in the Bible is deceptive and can easily be translated as one wishes.

Son of God
In the Bible we see that Moses was God for Pharaoh, Satan is the God of the world, Sons of God came to sleep with humans, God fought Jacob and lost, Jesus is the son of God, Even you are Gods. Most of these Gods are from "Elohim" in Hebrew. Elohim which can be translated as "gods" can be used in the singular sense for God, for god, Angels, Superhuman, and for people of authority such as a Judge or ruler.

Elohim as God aka Yahweh
Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth.

Used as gods
Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11

“Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20

As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight God.)
“Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28

Humans are God (Elohim)
Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1

“I said, ‘You are “gods"(Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6

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Otem's book of history is your best source for the answer. They're a group of gods or godhead headed by god El and worked in league with Allah/Yahweh in the Old World to enslave humans via religion.

Whenever you read your Bible or Qur'an (especially those parts in the latter where Allah says 'We'), just have it at the back of your mind, these are the group (Elohim in league with Allah/Jehovah) being referred to. Those are the entities you, Muslims and Christians, worship.

All of them are past humans.

They're all trivial and tiny in the current scheme of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkU_c7v0AWU

Allah is starkly different from Olorun. Jehovah is starkly different from Olorun. Olorun Olodumare is a pagan god, native to Yorubas and has nothing to do with Islam or Christianity.

Esu is our ancestor as Yorubas and isn't Satan.

Those Africans with a working brain already know the tactic that the white and Arab slavemasters and colonialists used to enslave Africans and destroy their cultural heritage and traditions during colonialization and slave-trade.

They would go to any community in the guise of trade or other activity and make findings about their beliefs, their gods. Then, they'd start telling the natives than their own god from Arabia or Europe is the same as the native god worshipped by these native people.

Yet, each culture around the world has its own sets of gods and goddesses, all of which are distinct, past humans and ancestors of present-day humans in each culture.

Then, the mendacious and cunning whites and Arabs would start manipulating, coercing or threatening the natives to adopt their own religion and leave the native religion.

I won't really blame those natives much now because they didn't have access to key information about the evil people from Arabia and Europe and their evil religions that destroy the native African cultures and traditions.

However, any African that engages in Islam and Christianity blindly in today's information age is simply one of the most unintelligent humans alive on planet Earth.

The barbaric histories of Christianity and Islam are well-documented on sites on the Internet for you as an African Christian or Muslim to read and educate and enlighten yourself on what you plan to do throughout your whole life.

Africa will remain backward among her fellow continents of the world if African Christians and Muslims don't leave Christianity and Islam and start learning about our native cultures and traditions, the pagan gods (our ancestors), and promoting the local cultures.

If you are not connected to your roots (the pagan gods, the local cultures) as a people, you won't grow and develop.

I read the Qur'an today after a while, and I keep wondering how a book could contain so much curses and threats. So much hate in a single book!

When the brains of many humans evolve in the future and many become enlightened, history won't be kind to Allah and the Arabs.

raumdeuter:
Yes UCL is the pinnacle of club foorball

You didn't answer his question.

MrBrownJay1:
as i was telling someone else on this thread, the hatred for the black race (from the west) is evident for centuries, and it didnt suddenly stop yesterday. Africa has always been viewed as a dumping ground where the west can do what they please with it to enrich themselves.

ask yourself:
- why is the west still meddling with Africa's economy and/or affairs?
- why would the west care so much about African controlling their own currency?
- why do they care so much about who rule these African nations?
- why do they constantly kill/overthrow the African rulers who dont do what the west desire?

Planet Earth isn't kind to weak and stupid people. The rule here is, survival of the fittest.

Every living organism on Earth abides by that unwritten law of nature. If humans slack and become unintelligent, some animals will colonize and domesticate us as pets and for food.

The same applies to microbes and others.

We all witnessed how coronavirus brought this planet to its knees. If humans didn't face the battle head on using science, viruses could have taken over the control of the planet from us.

Religion and prayers (mere wishes) were useless. Science saved the day.

If there are too many dull heads in any people (culture), those mentally weak individuals will weaken the whole people and put them at risk of being colonized, enslaved and/or exploited by more intelligent people from other cultures.

It's survival of the fittest. That's the rule of living creatures on planet Earth.

monerozi5590:
. This guy,there's nothing wrong being Muslim/Christian na.

The argument was if the aim of Dan Fodio (Fulani) is to spread Islam and not for power why did he then try to conquer the Kanuris that were already practising pure Islam. The Kanuris resisted him and he couldn't. Na my beloved Hausa people en come turn reformer.

Since the return to democracy,1999. The only Hausa man wei I think don near power na Sambo.

For obvious reasons, I don't expect an average African to see anything wrong in being a Christian or Muslim while demonizing his ancestors and native cultures.

I've made enough posts on Nairaland for a day. So, I'm not interested in this topic now.

British missionaries built schools to serve what purposes? What was taught in these schools?

Indoctrination, false and distorted histories, Western propagandas meant to destroy Africa. Education is meant to train the mind how to think, not the Western education system that teaches students false historical facts and toxic religions that would make you hate your ancestors and forebears and cultures.

Not the Western education system that teaches people lies such as equating Allah to Olorun, Jehovah to Olorun, calling Esu the same as Satan.

These are dangerous lies that will cut off an African from his roots and render the African people almost useless and reduced to the level of a mere animal.

A people that hate and curse their ancestors can never grow. Western education is simply an European tool to indoctrinate and colonize the minds of Africans from a tender age and make them see the whites as superior to black people.

That's why a typical African thinks the whites or Arabs are superior because they've been indoctrinated via Western education/Islamic education system to believe so.

And because of this self-limiting belief, Africans mostly demonstrate intellectual inferiority compared with the whites and Arabs.

An intelligent African uses the native system of education (learning in the local language) as a primary mode of learning, and combines it with Western education as a secondary mode of learning, or any other suitable system of education.

monerozi5590:
Let me just add. The Fulanis came for power, they are just using Islam to cover face. Most of them can't even recite the Al Fatiha .

The Fulanis are not even the one that brought Islam to the Hausas. The Hausas have their traditional beliefs/ ancient Hausa culture. It was those traders from Mali and the rest that brought Islam to them. Most of them started mixing their traditional beliefs and Islam.

Dan Fodio came and reformed it. He conquered the traditional beliefs mixing. Today we have Hausa Christians and Hausa Muslims (majority)

Maguzawa as Wikipedia put it not the right meaning. The Hausas were practicing Maguzawa, pegans. Worshiping gods, their traditional beliefs. People who chooses to stay with the traditional beliefs of the Hausas ara called Maguzawa.

Now, the Fulanis are using Maguzawa as a derogatory term against the Hausas. Interestingly, the Hausa Muslims are equally using Maguzawa as a derogatory remarks against the minority Hausa Christians.

The Kanuris believe they are the real Muslims. Almost all Kanuris are Muslims. The Kanuris don't believe Hausas are real Muslims .

Muhammad designed Islam to put the world under the rule of the Arabs. Why would a Fulani waste his time to learn Islam in detail when anyone with an average IQ knows the real purpose the religion is meant to serve.

Christianity and Islam are mere political tools. But those with low IQ can keep looking for salvation where there's none.

Sooner or later, the truth will be known. It's just a matter of time.

grandstar:
You have probably lived all life in Nigeria or Africa. By the time you travel and live in Europe for a year, you'll be the one saying "my daughter can not marry Oyinbo. Tufiakwa."

The Chinese for decades lived in desperate poverty under Chairman Mao's Communist government. The Chinese felt ashamed of themselves and felt they were backward. During the 30 years of communist rule, only 200,000 Chinese travelled abroad.

Then Chairman Mao died in the 1970s and a few years later under a new leader began market reforms. From 1978 to 2018, it is e stimated that the Chinese economy grew on the average of 8-10% yearly and lifted 800m people out of poverty and 400m into the middle class. A few years back , China claimed to have ended abject poverty.

The problem with China wasn't the Chinese people but bad leadership and bad policies.

Look at India. India is presently poor. We can add Pakistan and Bangladesh as they are all ethnic Indian and are South Asians.

Would you say ethnic Indians are inherently backward. Those countries are associated with poverty

Yet, Indians are the preferred English speaking expatriates globally. They are the CEO of many American companies, including Microsoft and Alphabet, the creators of the Windows software and Chrome Browser I am using to draft this response.

The Indians are the richest ethnic group in the USA today, surpassing the Jews

Why is India so backward? The reason is simple. Their leaders at independent set up a protectionist wall towards foreign goods to encourage local manufacturing and introduced licensing for most businesses nicknamed the "License Raj" that made it a bureaucratic nightmare for companies to operate. India did grow but it was slow, on the average of under 2.5% yearly and was nicknamed the "Hindu Rate of Growth."

The reason for such policies was not because Indians were stupid or senseless. It was because for almost 200 years, the British who colonized them had overexploited them and they now wanted to insulate themselves from any form of foreign exploitation

However, in the early 1990s when the Indian economy faced severe economic crisis, they were forced to commence market reform policies that was not only bringing about a $1b a month into the country but was delivering fast economic grown. For almost 20 years it grew on the average of 8% year.

Africa's problem has a lot to do with colonialism. The West did not prepare Africa for independence. I doubt the British ever built a school. All education efforts were by religious organizations or communities. It was estimated that only 5% of Nigerian were literate at Independence. The uneducated can easily be exploited by their leaders and can stand for themselves. Also, all the countries they ran were all poor. The British had put little effort to develop them. The DRC had only 5 graduates.

Worse, it seemed as though many of these countries had skewered the political system in a way to benefit their former colonial master or carried without a sense of care of what would happen next.

For instance in Nigeria, the 1960 elections had the North, which had less population than either the East or West determine who would lead the country as they won more seats in parliaments than aby of the two largest parties.

Also, the West turned on a blind eye to the rise of dictators during the Cold War in many of these African countries. The lack of a democratic structure enabled totally incompetents like Kenneth Kaunda and Mobutu latch on to power too long, impoverishing their people. The first African leader to voluntarily leave his seat after independence was Olusegun Obasanjo and that was in 1979, When you consider that most African countries gained independence in 1960, you'll realise the severity of the problem.

The West only started demanding accountability at the end of the tail end of the 1980s when the Cold War began to thaw. If they had had that approach in the 1960s, Africa would not have been in this mess.

Contrast Africa with Hong Kong. It was preferred for independence. It was a rich and prosperous colony of the UK and they weren't keen on seeing the British leave and be handed over to China.

Nowadays, all British colonies are prosperous, including black dominated ones like Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

That is why when you see Nigerians when they return from abroad, they say "Only if we have good leaders." They acknowledge that it is bad leadership and not the color of our skin that should be accountable.

But why should you expect a people that invaded another people's land with the intention of enslaving and colonizing them, which they did successfully, to take any measure that would really be beneficial for their colony?

Why would you expect a colonial master to prepare his colony for independence? Why do Africans generally see whites as people that should be kind and humane?

Do kind people engage in colonization and slavery in the first place?

Every race, except most Africans (because of its high number of stupid people) think of the interests of his own people first. That's a fact.

But for most Africans, the interest of Israel (the whites) comes first if they're Christians, or that of the Arabs if they're Muslims, before thinking of African interests.

The West only gave their colonies in Africa 'independence' on paper because they've found a better way to control them without maintaining a presence in the country: by controlling their leaders as puppets.

So, Africa isn't really independent in the real sense of it, and Nigerian leaders are mere puppets of the West.

beekind:
My point is that religion is not the problem of Africa, intellect/intelligence is.
USA, Canada and many prosperous countries were built on the Christian religion and the Christian faith was the basis for these countries so how come these countries are the most prosperous today.

For years Christianity was the predominant religion and that did not stop the development of these countries, the same can be said of Saudi Arabia and most Middle Eastern countries.

Has Islam stopped Dubai from developing ?

I said earlier that religion only really benefits the culture (people) that owns it. It was the Britons (white people) from Europe that moved to the present-day USA, massacred almost of the black people (native Indians) on the lands, and stole their lands to create what's now called the United States.

Many prosperous nations in the Americas and the Australian continent have a similar history.

So, Christianity only really benefits white people because it's from their culture. If a religion isn't from your culture, know that it's simply a tool foreigners used to colonize and enslave you.

In Arabia too, it's mainly the Arabs (Saudi, UAE, Quwait, and co) that really benefit from Islam.

Those with high intelligence would already understand what I'm saying, considering the various benefits that a culture (people) reaps from importing, imposing, and enforcing their religion on other people.

Some of those benefits are support and blessing of a people's (culture's) ancestors and forefathers, preservation of the culture that owns the religion, having access to slaves imported from their subjects (those they imposed their religion on) that help develop their country/economy, annual contribution by stupid people around the world (religious people) that visit Israel and Saudi for pilgrimage, and many other benefits.

The first benefit is the most important. If your ancestors and forefathers don't bless you as a people, such a people won't move forward. They'll be among the lowest of the low on a planet.

That's where the problems of Africa started from. As most Africans (the Christians and Muslims) curse and demonize their ancestors and forefathers, Africans won't have the backing of their ancestors to develop and grow.

So, for a long time, Africa will remain backward until people stop demonizing their ancestors, and many seek to establish a connection to their roots, the pagan gods.

Check any prosperous nation in the world. All of them praise and hype their ancestors.

The Arabs praise and hype their ancestors such as Allah, Muhammad and his companions. Mumu Africans join the Arabs as well to praise their (Arabs') ancestors, while Africans demonize and curse their own.

Europeans praise and hype their ancestors such as Yahweh, Yeshua, and co. Mumu Africans still join them.

Any people that curse and demonize their ancestors won't move forward in life. They'll simply remain stagnant and become the slaves of this world.

That's the major issue with Africa. For this key reason, Christianity and Islam are harmful to Africa.

If left unchecked, the religions will kill Africa. Many stupid Africans are even praying for such.

Africans are so dull. Today, the US is known as a white country. The original blacks that owned the land are a dead people (culture) now. The same thing applies to Australia.

And an African with a working brain will be wishing the same fate to befall Africa.

The way forward is for Africans to learn about our ancestors and forebears, honor, and celebrate them. The traditionalists should stop worshipping our ancestors as gods.

Worshipping deities (religion) doesn't allow a people to grow and develop. When the invaders and colonialists came with Christianity and Islam to conquer, enslave, and colonize Africa, the pagan gods (who are really past humans) couldn't help the people.

It's science that can help a people to defend themselves against oppressors and invaders, not a god or religion.

Philosophy, critical thinking, and science is the way forward. Not religion, whether foreign or native.

MrBrownJay1:
oh yeah, you are absolutely right about the above....religion is one of the MAJOR problems of Africans. without religion, Africa would be such a better place.

It's not even only Africa, but the whole planet. Religion limits the development of planet Earth because it puts a bar on people's level and depth of thinking and limits the development of science and technology.

If not for religion, Earth would have developed a lot faster.

Many technologies we're enjoying today would have actually been developed many years before now by the millions of past philosophers and scientists in Europe, Asia, and Africa killed by religious people, especially Christians and Muslims, for practicing philosophy and using the scientific method, which the ignorant religious people called witchcraft in the past.

A female philosopher and mathematician like Hypatia was burnt alive by the Christians for allegedly practicing witchcraft (what we call philosophy and science today). Millions lost their life like that in Europe before some European countries like ancient Greece and old Rome started leaving the philosophers alone.

That was when development started in Europe and spread to some parts of Asia such as Arabia. That's why ancient Greece and old Rome are regarded today as the sources or origins of Western philosophy and science.

Yet, many of their philosophers, including Socrates and Plato, schooled in ancient Egypt taught by black people that developed the civilization. So, Africa is really the source or origin of philosophy and science.

MrBrownJay1:
here is how Africa would improve INSTANTLY, with the right "people": the minute a head of state messes up, the PEOPLE should rebel and eject that yeye president. if the people did that (like they do elsewhere around the world) Africa will greatly improve instantly.

the power lies with the people, not these yeye head of state. sadly, African are so brainwashed that they would go and riot in the streets for every lame reason yet not for what would change their destiny...

- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did during endsars? is endsars more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?
- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did during South African ressentment (after South Africans were killing Nigerians in SA)?? is SA treatment of Nigerians more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?
- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did when some yeye coza pastor was accused of rape? are coza pastors more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?

It will take a long time for Africa to develop. The rot is very deep.

Africans can't do all these things you said because of their low level of intelligence. When there are large numbers of people in Africa, who are stupid enough to believe all those silly tales meant for kids in the Bible and Qur'an, such a people can't develop.

Those books won't allow them to develop until they start discarding and binning the books. The books won't even allow them to unite as one and face a common enemy so the continent can move forward.

So, the first step is getting rid of Christianity and Islam in Africa. That will take years.

beekind:
I am not talking about ritual killers.
I am letting you know today in Nigeria, people will gather, I mean in their hundreds, a whole community will gather to set people ablaze on suspicion of stealing maggi.

Google aluu 4, these things have been happening and more prevalent than you think ?

This is 2023, what other race does this ? When you argue that Europeans were barbaric, that was 100s of years ago, but in 2023 are we not barbaric and savages ?

Also it was Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a missionary that stopped the killing of twins and also other terrible African traditional religious practices . Even if you hate Christianity be honest enough to acknowledge the evident good that it brought to the African continent.

By the way, I did not say I was a christian, I said I identify as one. - big difference

Nonsensical post. Just stop embarrassing yourself already.

It's people like you that do all those barbaric killings.

If you and your fellow Christians lay your hands on any atheists or agnostics on Nairaland, you're ready to burn and kill them. And those that don't do so, kill such freethinkers while being alive by rendering them virtually useless.

Lecturers won't allow them to graduate. Employers won't give them jobs. Parents won't allow them to marry their children.

You and your fellow dolts will ostracize thinkers in society and still come to Nairaland to create stupid posts about why the black race isn't developing.

Yet, the thinkers that will develop the society are those you and your fellow religionists keep killing physically or otherwise.

It's foolish people like you that forced many freethinkers, including my humble self, to leave the African continent, or at least, Nigeria.

Because thinkers, especially atheists and agnostics, are leaving the continent in droves, it'll take a long time for Africa to develop.

It's highly intelligent people and thinkers that develop societies, not religious zombies.

For silly people like this, a politician that embezzles public funds in trillions of naira putting millions of lives in penury and privation, killing lots of people in their prime, is better and deserves to live. But not a freethinker who often tries to be law abiding.

I've never seen such a stupid set of people in my life anywhere else.

MrBrownJay1:
what happened in Europe has absolutely NOTHING to do with whats happening in Africa....you are comparing a grain of salt with mount Kilimandjaro.... especially when the west is still benefitting TODAY from their past colonization of Africa



yes African countries are fighting one another instead of working together....and then within these same countries, tribes are fighting one another for power, coupled with religions are separating even more Africans...so no wonder Africa cant go forward.



nah sadly i fully disagree, developping a society starts with THE PEOPLE... and sadly, Africans are too busy focussing on fighting one another (while praying to some imaginary invisible god), to remotely make sane decision.

The foundation of a functional, progressive society lies in philosophy, science and technology, and critical thinking. Your average African finds all these subjects boring. How is the West or Arabs responsibly for that? But we won't develop until a sufficiently higher number of Africans master them.

these yeye bibles were brought o Africa to divide Africans and to brainwash them... how can you have a functional progressive society when the majority put some yeye invisible god before anything else in their lives? how can you fully use your brain when you believe that everything on earth is controlled by some yeye invisble god? Africans find LIFE boring because they live in fantasy land where the aim on earth is some yeye imaginary paradise....

You've made reasonable points.

And yes, development starts from the head. But you said it's the people. Does a head stand on its own?

It's not accurate to say development starts with the people. No. It starts from the head, a good head, not a dull one.

In Africa, we've the people (over 1.5 billion of them), but those with good heads are scarce. It's the dull heads that form the majority.

That's the root of the problems.

beekind:
What you are saying may have some elements of truth but it fails to address the deep issues, these are just symptoms resulting from intellectual deficiency.

To argue that it is western leaders forcing all African leaders to steal money meant for developing their countries is just plain ridiculous.

Let me ask you the same question I have asked @A001 but he keeps avoiding, is it western leaders that are forcing people to set each other ablaze ?
You have to agree that for someone to be able to carry out such an action it means he is at a much lower evolutionary stage than the average caucasian.

I mean, people can murder people and all, but when a community congregates and sets people on fire in 2023, there is no better arguement than to agree that these people are barbarians and savages, and the majority of folks in Nigeria are very comfortable with this.

So what other proof do you need in addition to the evident lack of growth and progress in the country to let us conclude that something is wrong upstairs with the average black person.

I'm done engaging you. I've better things to do with my time. I carefully select people I engage on Nairaland.

You must show a certain level of intelligence and depth in your posts for me to take you seriously. You've not done so, especially since you're a Christian.

Those Africans that practice Christianity or Islam are actually the dullest humans on this planet.

If your brain is working well and you know the millions of past African people that were either killed or dehumanized when the whites and Arabs were spreading those two Abrahamic religions, you'd regard the religions as existential threats.

Only the culture that owns a religion really benefits from it. When your brain has been made useless in your head by reading the Bible and Qur'an, you won't know this simple fact.

beekind:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/04/10/boy-set-ablaze-in-calabar-over-alleged-phone-theft/
You really like to bury your head in the sand, the number of people set ablaze and lynched in Nigeria this month alone will shock you. Tell me which other race will do this in 2023.

It was not just our forefathers that were barbaric and savage, even the present black race is filled with barbarism and savagery on another level.

Which other race will gladly watch as his own kin burns ?

What's the percentage of ritual killers in the African population? I can see even basic math is difficult for you. Are they even up to 5% of the African population? If they're more than 10% of the African population or higher as your silly post shows, I don't think you'd have the chance of typing nonsense here on Nairaland.

The dead don't talk.

MrBrownJay1:
i dont expect mercy from the wicked, but i also wont fool myself into believing that whats happening in Africa is because Africans are less intelligent than another race. wickedness is winning, and thats the truth of this discussion... why do you think the west has killed so many African leaders since their so called "independence" (if not to keep Africa on its knees)?

You're acting as if it's only African countries that were colonized in human history. Are you aware that even the Great Britain itself was once colonized by Rome?

If not that Africa has the largest concentration of fools on this planet, the continent would have developed even with the selfish games played by the West and Arabs.

When we've thinkers in higher numbers, the West or Arabs won't be able to stop the continent from developing.

Developing a society all starts from the head. Good heads that can think critically and deeply with foresight are needed in large numbers to build a society, not dull heads.

In Africa, it's the dull heads that form the majority. That's where the problem lies.

The foundation of a functional, progressive society lies in philosophy, science and technology, and critical thinking. Your average African finds all these subjects boring.

How is the West or Arabs responsible for that?

But we won't develop until a sufficiently higher number of Africans master them.

beekind:
You need to be very objective it seems there is so much emotion in this write up that you have missed the real arguement here.
Yes, its not just Africans that are Barbarians, at some point all races were barbaric.

The point I am making is that, the Europeans evolved faster than the black race. This is why it took an European to convince Africans that killing of twins is wrong, sacrificing humans is wrong.
Even as we speak today, Africans are still making human sacrifices if not for Christianity, it would have been worse.

While the Europeans evolved and quickly eliminated the evil practises in their culture, the African man still holds on tightly to it till today.

Which continent have you heard that a group of people gathered together and set their own kin on fire because he stole maggi ? Today in Nigeria people still lych each other, I am talking of a community of people gathering to set others on fire, this takes a whole new level of barbarism.

Thats the point I am making, it's 2023, stop making references to things that happened when there was largely ignorance.

Lastly, if it was the Black race that had access to the technology and evolved quickly, the black race would have done worse to other races, I know of a friend whoose great grand father was a missionary roasted and eaten in Papa New Guinea, my friend is dutch and her great grandfather was a missionary.

Did you ever hear of Europeans eating blacks ?

You don't know what you're talking about. I've better things to do with my time than engaging in senseless discussion on Nairaland. Once you said you're a Christian, I know you'll operate on a lower level of intelligence.

No African with a working brain should be a Christian or Muslim.

If you make human sacrifices, don't generalize what you do to the whole African population.

He said Africans are still making human sacrifices as if it's millions of Africans doing so in modern times. Only a tiny percentage of Africans do so, but that's enough for you to generalize to the whole population of over 1.4 billion people in a region.

If you don't know you're displaying the low level of intelligence often observed in a typical African, then I don't have anything else to say to you.

MrBrownJay1:
whats happening to Africa has nothing to do with intelligence, it has all to do with WICKEDNESS!!!!!

Lols, on this planet, the most intelligent ones rule over the stupid ones most of the times.

Why should you expect mercy or pity from barbaric people, thieves, and invaders that went about breaking into other people's lands looting their resources, destroying their cultures and traditions with their (foreign) religions, and colonizing them?

The whites and Arabs are highly intelligent mostly, but colonization, slavery, looting of other people's resources are evil and wrong ways to use intelligence.

Some humans use their intelligence to do good and help others; others like the prophets and 'saints' of Christianity and Islam, the whites and Arab colonialists and slave masters use their own intelligence for evil and conquering others.

Black peoples were the original inhabitants of America, Australia, New Zealand before the Britons wiped out and massacred almost the whole populations of blacks in those countries and claimed their lands.

Today, the US, Australia, and New Zealand are white countries.

Hitler was a white (a German) that killed millions of Jews. But I didn't hear anyone call the whole Europe barbaric and savage.

The whites would single out cases of barbaric and savage people in Africa and use them to paint the whole continent as dark, and ignorant Africans would be repeating the same lies all about.

No African people committed such heinous acts (like the whites) of this scale in history; yet, it's Africans that were barbaric and savage.

It's sad that thinking is the hardest thing to do for an average African.

They won't read history books written by African authors, but only the books of lies such as the Bible, Qur'an, and history books written by liars from Europe and Arabia.

The same false books referring to Allah as Olorun, Yahweh as Olorun, Esu as Satan, and all sorts of silly statements. And Africans with their low IQ will be calling the native pagans gods of Africa as the same as Allah and Yahweh.

How is Allah the same as Olorun? How is Yahweh the same as Olorun? How is Esu the same as Satan?

Who is the best person to tell the history of his own people, land, and culture if not the indigenes. But most Africans are simply stupid as they think the history books written by whites and Arabs about Africa are superior to the local ones.

Yet, the whites and Arabs won't take the same nonsense they ditch out to Africans.

beekind:
There is nothing wrong in being a Christian or muslim (bar a few little issues that can be adjusted), The greatest countries in the world today were build on the back of Christianity (discussion for another day) .

Some of these countries had their laws and constitution drafted from the Bible.
To say Christianity or Islam is the reason for Africas backwardness is not accurate and sounds like we wanting to pass the buck.

The problem is how Africans practise their religion, as a matter of fact, Christianity particularly has been a blessing cos before the missionaries came our forefathers were living like barbarians, sacrificing twins, sacrificing each other to gods.
Burying themselves with dead people etc

Some of these terrible practices still abound today in our society but the influence of Christianity has helped to reduce it drastically.
I identify as Christian although I have not been to church in almost 5 years, but I am very spiritual.

The problem is that the African man does not think of the future, he only think of himself and what benefits him, is this as a result of intellectual deficiency ?
Is it intellectual inferiority that makes the black man not realise that it is cheaper, better and more rewarding/progressive to develop your community than to steal the money for yourself alone ?

The inability of the vast majority of Africans to have a collective developmental mindset rather than the selfish hogging of wealth mindset that he has may be suggestive of an intellectual deficiency in itself.
And if you look around, this pattern of behaviour is not only rampant in Nigeria, it pervades every black community in the world.

Africans are a funny lot. I don't even know where to start. Who told you Africans were barbarians, savage people before the whites came? The same white slavemasters, but that's a blatant lie.

I can see you don't know anything about the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa committed by these same slavemasters that told you Africans were barbaric and savage.

But this information is available online and an average African should know the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa — heinous acts committed by wicked souls from Europe and Arabia leading to the loss of millions of African lives and the dehumanization of hundreds of thousands of Africans.

The same people that brought you Christianity and Islam did all this and more. The same people that lied that Africans were barbaric and savage living like animals before the whites and Arabs came.

FYI, it was not all Africans that were barbaric and savage engaging in killing twins and other anti-human practices. And those evil practices weren't peculiar to Africa alone.

Europe was even worst, same as Arabia. Are you blind to all the atrocities and heinous acts that Yahweh and his prophets committed in the Bible (Old Testament)?

I don't know why Africans can't think deeply. Even Asia too had their own barbaric and savage practices in that period. Their 'noble' prophet in Islam married a toddler, which is pedophilia.

Their religion was spread by killing innocent people in millions, grabbing other people's lands, and conquering other peoples.

And you're calling Africans barbaric and savage in the past?

I can see you know next to nothing about world history. So much ignorance in a single post.

Christianity and Islam were never a blessing to Africa. One would even think the person that created the thread would know Christianity and Islam are the key reasons why Africans mostly demonstrate lower intelligence than other races.

Your knowledge of history is very shallow. I don't even know where or how to start correcting all these deeply ignorant posts.

The ignorance is too deep. When you recommend books meant to educate Africans and enlighten them, they won't read them.

MrBrownJay1:
what a sad statement...
you see, you people are so BRAINWASHED by the nonsense done by the west, that now you even believe that their evils is the RIGHT thing to do in life. Egyptians built ships to fish way before Europeans saw an opportunity to use ships to go oppress other people and steal their lands. the sad part here is that YOU now believe that the best use for ships is to spread evils around the world and colonize/murder entire nation to rob them of their natural ressources.

contrary to you, i am not here to embellish anything but to STICK TO FACTS!!!

Yes, those Egyptians that built ships, developed those wondrous pyramids were black people. But that was some thousands of years ago. Ancient Egypt was a black civilization developed by Africans.

But that's all in the past now. Africans were highly intelligent and creative in the past and were ahead. Many philosophies, scientific concepts, technological inventions, religions of today have their roots in ancient Africa.

However, today, Africans are mostly inferior to other races intellectually. Stop living in the past.

We learn history to see how to build on the knowledge and achievements of our forefathers and learn from their mistakes, not to live in the past.

FYI, when various parts of Africa were great in the past, including ancient Egypt, Africans used to worship their native gods. It's those foreign gods (Yahweh and Allah) that eventually brought Africa to its knees, especially ancient Egypt that was invaded and conquered at different times by the Greeks, Romans, Arabs, and others. And it was the invasion and colonization by the Arabs that created the present-day Egypt.

So, the Modern Egypt is really an Arab country, not an African nation. There's nothing African about the descendants (modern-day Egyptians) of the Arab barbarians ('barbarian' in its general sense) that invaded and conquered ancient Egypt.

andrewbaba44:
Who is talking about the flop they put there ?

Leave the flop alone ,I am only focused on the amount paid for players

Are you sure all is well with Chelsea ?

Carry your useless stats to your dry thread. Make we hear word.

andrewbaba44:
But but Farmerdiola is a check book coach

How many of his players can we even find here ?

In what universe is Enzo a flop? Are you sure all is well with you?

Five of the Most Secure Places in the World: 2. Vatican Secret Archives – Vatican City, Italy

The headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church includes archives housing some of the most sacred and rare documents in religious history. An estimated 35,000 volumes of information are stored here, and it’s so secretive that very few photos of the place exist. Information is passed down from Pope to Pope, and only a research officer can enter the archives with special permission, which is granted very rarely.

Source: https://www.leisureguardsecurity.co.uk/five-of-the-most-secure-places-in-the-world/

Maybe if we tell African Christians that the Vatican City in the birthplace of their religion is one of the most heavily guarded and secure places on this planet, they'd realize Jesus Christ is a fictional character and that religion is man-made.

Those guarding the documents in the Vatican Secret Archives in the Vatican City know why they must secure the place tightly with great care, less someone gets access to the real history of Yeshua, the homo erectus the Romans used to create Jesus Christ, and the world realizes they've been worshiping a devilish entity all along.

Lols

cococandy:
I don’t have an argument against this. At least not to you or anyone on NL anyway . Because some Christians will disagree with what I’d say (they believe the religion is infallible) and you will disagree with me just because you’re anti Christian.

I'm all about what can bring growth and development to Africa, but Christianity was introduced as a political tool to enslave Africans. Christianity aims to kill Africa.