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FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 11:58am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
That’s not true. I haven’t seen any evidence worth arguing. All historical figures that people believe existed were written about and that seems to be enough evidence for everyone. Yet in Jesus’ case, we want DNA and remains in order to agree that he existed.

You’re going to find an article to buttresses your point and I’ll find one that says I’m right. So let’s agree to disagree
So you believe a man can feed 5000 people with five loaves and two fish and such a person is a real human? Lols.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 11:39am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
Okay but that’s the definition of belief. It’s not rooted in inarguably fact.

The only time I argue with someone’s belief is when their belief perpetuates harm to others. Like religious people who think their religion should influence the laws that governs everyone else; unbelievers alike.

Other than that, beliefs are not facts that are unanimous. That’s why some people believe he’s fictional. Some believe he’s real. Some believe he’s real but not the son of God. I’m not about to argue with you on any of these things.

What I’m against is intolerance.
Jesus Christ is fictional. That's not a belief, but a fact backed with more than enough evidence.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 11:38am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
Lol I see what you did there. But that’s not the same thing I’m talking about. Unless your definition of discourse is for me to agree with you that Jesus Christ is evil. In that case I’d say you just want to talk with someone who fully agrees with you no questions.

How’s that different from fanatics who don’t entertain idea’s different from theirs?
By human standards, Jesus Christ is evil objectively.

An entity that says if you don't worship him or his so-called father Yahweh, you'll burn in hell fire for eternity is evil. A god that plans to burn over trillions of human souls in hell fire for eternity is evil and anti-human.

You can start twisting these clear statements in the Bible as usual to suit your agenda. Na your way as Christians.

No African with a working brain should actually be a Muslim or Christian.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 10:54am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
There are parts of your posts I agree and disagree with. Yes I agree religion (Abrahamic ones ) can and have continuously been used as a political tool. I already did agree with you that western culture was passed down within Christianity. It was inevitable.

But I disagree with you on the person of Jesus Christ. Remember this is a belief. So there’s no point arguing it. It’s just my belief.
Well, sorry to say then that your belief is wrong and not based on solid evidence. Jesus Christ is a fictitious character designed by the whites to rule the world.

The real person that existed was a homo erectus (giant), a cunning and crafty person. The Romans removed the bulk of his history from the access of the public and rewrote his history to create Jesus Christ.

You, Christians, don't actually know who Jesus Christ is/was. If you did, you'd be laying curses on Yeshua daily, especially as an African.

Anyway, enjoy your 'belief'. People will still know the evil personality behind the fictitious Jesus Christ character in the future.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 10:38am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
Erm sir, I’m a Christian. So respectfully, I disagree that it is an evil religion. The problem I see with it is that many Christians do not follow in the footsteps of Christ himself upon who the religion was founded.
If they did, callous disregard for others, greed, unkindness, intolerance, lack of empathy, oppression etc wouldn’t be a thing. So it’s not the religion that’s the problem. It’s how people practice it that is the problem.

I agree that the older oppressive cultures of the west did become inevitably infused with Christianity as it was passed down to us. That’s why you can see 10 different preachers teaching from the same verse with different interpretations. Because they interpret based on their own lived experiences. But if one is literate and has common sense, it shouldn’t be difficult like we make it.
A001:
Fundamentally, Christianity and Islam were designed for the Europeans and Arabs to rule the world and kill all other cultures. That's why a typical African detests and demonizes his native cultures and traditions, while promoting and celebrating the foreign cultures in Europe and Arab, which are the native cultures and traditions of the Europeans and Arabs.

This is what reading the Bible or Qur'an does to you as an African. Those two books are evil for Africa at their core.

The Chinese know the key reason why Christianity and Islam were designed, and they do their best to curb the growth of the toxic religions in their country.

Christianity is an element of the native cultures and traditions of Europeans (Israelites); Islam is also an elements of the indigenous cultures and traditions of Arabs;in the same vein, the native African religions are an element of the indigenous cultures and traditions of Africans.
I can see you highlighted that part of my post. It's a fact. Religion is an aspect or element of a culture. It's not an opinion. It's common knowledge among sociologists, anthropologists, and psychologists.

Those are experts that study culture.

Do a simple check in a standard dictionary. It's stated there in the definition of "culture". Culture encompasses various elements that define a person's way of life, and these elements include religion (beliefs), norms, values, languages, and others.

This is a standard definition of culture.

If Africans generally follow the teachings of Christ as you said, Africa would have died long ago. Just like if Africans generally follow the teachings of Muhammad, Africa would have also died long ago.

Jesus Christ and Muhammad are Africa's greatest enemies. Christ is a mere creation of the Romans. He was invented by them using the history of a homo erectus that lived in the ancient past in their bid to rule over the whole world using Christianity.

Muhammad was an Arabman that sought to put the whole world under the rule of the Arabs using Islam as a tool.

I don't know when Africans will realize Christianity and Islam are mere political tools. The problem is, African Christians and Muslims don't study history objectively and critically.

They don't think deeply.

Africa matter tire person jare
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 10:19am On Jul 16, 2023
kkins25:
Our problem is we put too much faith in daddy GOs, that's why we say God of Apostle suleman, God of T. B. joshua, and so on. Religious people have already been warned that one day people will come and want to thwart their beliefs. Those people include A001 and myself. Trust me, i did try. I even wanted to catch them young. But, that failed.
For a moment i was able to get this kids to ponder on the possibility that something strange is going on. But, of course, I'm just one man against moguls like Pastor oyedepo. And, people are like gaots, they like greens. This pastors are greener than most.
So, that moment of "what if" was quickly squashed. Infact, they've become more religious than before, and I have become the lost one.
Preaching doesn't work, it only works on people who've been skeptic from birth.

They've been told that wolves will come in sheep clothing. As case study, you can see folks like kobo.junkie and buda.atum have been called all sorts of names. The former is a manupulator of the bible, and the former now a freemason. 😂😂😂

Thats because, Christians see them as wolves in sheep clothing. The self - defense mechanism of Christianity and islam are very powerful. More powerful than that of Judaism and other religions. All this has been fortold already, that A001 will come and try to deceive them. so, their minds are already inclined to kick against him.

Using science or philosophy won't cut it. If the Daddy Gos could be dismantled, then that's a different story.. Prosperity gospel crooners of the west do not have half of the power that our have here. Its a completely different ball game. I think china saw this and acted before things got out of hand.

First, disallow fellowships in school. Teach religion along side history, and as history.

Engaging in debates, A001? Don't you see it's for that reason muslims have their own forum? haha. They aren't willing to listen to you bruv. If you do, seun head will be cut off. lol.

If we can say Africans are less intelligent, why do we want to take approach fitted for intelligent people?

You want to preach philosophy as an alternative to the divine grace of God that requires that you pray and speak in tongues, and then the next day viola! Somebody has dashed you car? you've gat to be kidding me.
I think two things will help curb religion in Africa: Continuously engaging religious people in debates and the growth of science. One just needs to do one's best to educate people about religion, philosophy, history, and science and leave the rest to nature.

I think we're in a new age now, and there will be more intelligent Africans in the near future.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 10:08am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
By religion I don’t mean only Christianity and Islam.

Native cultures, traditional religions, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism. They are all religions and they are all equally valid and can help the spiritual growth of the practitioner. So when you say colonialism I automatically know you’re referring to Christianity and Islam.

I agree those two were specifically used to colonize Africa. But we’ve adopted them and they have become ours now. I don’t see us going back away from them. We don’t necessarily have to do away with them to progress. We just have learn to drop the oppressive mindsets of the colonial masters who brought them to us.

I like the scientific method but it does not negate spirituality. What it negates is illogic and superstition. Spirituality is not the same as superstition. Superstition is based on fear while spirituality is the pursuit of wholeness of the mind. So yes one can have religious beliefs and agree with science as well
Nice one. When the brains of many Africans evolve in the future, many would actually ditch Christianity and Islam.

When science develops further, this will make many humans become enlightened and ditch religion, especially Christianity and Islam.

If Africans don't eliminate those two evil religions, the two religions will eventually kill Africa.

Fundamentally, Christianity and Islam were designed for the Europeans and Arabs to rule the world and kill all other cultures. That's why a typical African detests and demonizes his native cultures and traditions, while promoting and celebrating the foreign cultures in Europe and Arab, which are the native cultures and traditions of the Europeans and Arabs.

This is what reading the Bible or Qur'an does to you as an African. Those two books are evil for Africa at their core.

The Chinese know the key reason why Christianity and Islam were designed, and they do their best to curb the growth of the toxic religions in their country.

Christianity is an element of the native cultures and traditions of Europeans (Israelites); Islam is also an elements of the indigenous cultures and traditions of Arabs;in the same vein, the native African religions are an element of the indigenous cultures and traditions of Africans.

If the growth of those two evil religions (Islam and Christianity) isn't checked and curbed on this continent by highly intelligent Africans, Islam and Christianity will kill Africa as a people.

When the native culture of a people is being relegated to the background by a foreign culture, that native culture will soon die. When the culture dies, that means the people are dead, and the new culture will rule over them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:57am On Jul 16, 2023
A001:
ỌLỌGBÓN: WISDOM, BRILLIANCE AND INTELLIGENCE

Wisdom is Ọgbọ́n in Yoruba.

Brilliance is Orí pípé.

Intelligence is làákàyè.

You could be wise, but not brilliant.

You could be brilliant but not wise.

But you could not be wise without being intelligent.

You could be brilliant but not intelligent.

Wisdom comes out of intelligence that enables one to connect past events and experiences to make decisions in the present or future.

For instance, a wise person knows that you do not touch fire without getting burnt.

To act with wisdom is a demonstration of intelligence.

But could you be brilliant and not be intelligent? Yes.

You may be brilliant, but still keep getting burnt by fire.

A brilliant person may fail an examination that s/he should normally have passed easily. For example, a brilliant person may forget to bring a pen and other writing materials to the exam hall to take a writing test.

A wise person brings the pen and writing paper to the exam hall. But the wise person may still fail the exam if s/he is not brilliant enough for the test.

Brilliance seems related to genetics and may be inherited. But brilliance could also be cultivated from concentrating on a subject or idea.

Wisdom is learned. Wisdom is enlightenment that comes only from contact, experience and patience.

A brilliant person may be an unsuccessful person.

People fail not because they are not brilliant but often because they are not wise.

If you do not choose your career wisely you will most probably fail: you could probably have been a brilliant artist, but if you unwisely choose the legal profession, your brilliance is wasted.

A wise person may find success without being brilliant.

The intelligent person, from diligence, constant application and patience, may turn wisdom to brilliance and find success.

Seek intelligence, whether it is artificial (AI) or human.

May our Orí lead us to the path of success as we gather intelligence, seek wisdom and cultivate brilliance.

May Olodumare give us ọgbón, orí pípe and làákàyè in all we do, so we may enjoy a successful life.

Now, what do Yoruba people refer to as “Ọgbón àgbọ́n-ì-gbọ́n-tan?”

It is to be too clever by half; to be penny wise, and pound foolish.

Source: Prof. Moyo Okediji via FB
A thoughtful piece on the distinction between brilliance, intelligence, and wisdom.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:56am On Jul 16, 2023
ỌLỌGBÓN: WISDOM, BRILLIANCE AND INTELLIGENCE

Wisdom is Ọgbọ́n in Yoruba.

Brilliance is Orí pípé.

Intelligence is làákàyè.

You could be wise, but not brilliant.

You could be brilliant but not wise.

But you could not be wise without being intelligent.

You could be brilliant but not intelligent.

Wisdom comes out of intelligence that enables one to connect past events and experiences to make decisions in the present or future.

For instance, a wise person knows that you do not touch fire without getting burnt.

To act with wisdom is a demonstration of intelligence.

But could you be brilliant and not be intelligent? Yes.

You may be brilliant, but still keep getting burnt by fire.

A brilliant person may fail an examination that s/he should normally have passed easily. For example, a brilliant person may forget to bring a pen and other writing materials to the exam hall to take a writing test.

A wise person brings the pen and writing paper to the exam hall. But the wise person may still fail the exam if s/he is not brilliant enough for the test.

Brilliance seems related to genetics and may be inherited. But brilliance could also be cultivated from concentrating on a subject or idea.

Wisdom is learned. Wisdom is enlightenment that comes only from contact, experience and patience.

A brilliant person may be an unsuccessful person.

People fail not because they are not brilliant but often because they are not wise.

If you do not choose your career wisely you will most probably fail: you could probably have been a brilliant artist, but if you unwisely choose the legal profession, your brilliance is wasted.

A wise person may find success without being brilliant.

The intelligent person, from diligence, constant application and patience, may turn wisdom to brilliance and find success.

Seek intelligence, whether it is artificial (AI) or human.

May our Orí lead us to the path of success as we gather intelligence, seek wisdom and cultivate brilliance.

May Olodumare give us ọgbón, orí pípe and làákàyè in all we do, so we may enjoy a successful life.

Now, what do Yoruba people refer to as “Ọgbón àgbọ́n-ì-gbọ́n-tan?”

It is to be too clever by half; to be penny wise, and pound foolish.

Source: Prof. Moyo Okediji via FB
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 9:35am On Jul 16, 2023
cococandy:
Not necessarily. My belief is that religion is important in nurturing spirituality. Humans are spiritual beings so whatever one’s religion is, it plays a role in well rounded individual. Even atheists are spiritual in a sense.

Our problem is inability to practice religion as a personal thing. Most people just can’t understand how to support a system that doesn’t make their religious beliefs the default for everyone else.
Religion is primarily designed as a political tool. That's the simple truth. It's primary aim is to control, colonize, and enslave.

I don't know what you mean by spirituality, but science is the best tool to do all things.

Hence, using the scientific method (observation, reasoning, and experimentation), coupled with good aspects of our native cultures and traditions backed with evidence, is the best and most effective way for an African to develop their spirituality.

Religion is a mere philosophy of its god (founder), and all religious gods are past humans. That's a glaring fact.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 9:30am On Jul 16, 2023
kkins25:
what we first need ro do is cut off the heads of their imams and Daddy GOs. I hate to say, but the Christian society has turned to pathological beggars in the name of Grace.

Its all about "my helper is somewhere" "God will miraculously do this" On it current path, this country is doomed to fail.
I think the best method is to continuously engage African Christians and Muslims in debates, especially using the Socratic method. It's a slow process, but I think it's more effective and pays in the long run.

The focus should be on those religious beliefs, not on people holding the beliefs.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 9:18am On Jul 16, 2023
kkins25:
It is important to add that Africa developed slowly in the 17th century through to the slave era because if isolation. Europeans and Asians were connected. They adopted technology from each other. meanwhile in sub Sahara, we were surrounded by Bush and dessert. We were not sea people like the vikings too.. When analyzing this thing ehn, there are so many factors to consider.. so many.
Yes, this is also a key factor. But the world is now a global village, thanks to the Internet. So, that excuse won't be tenable for long.

Even with the tons of information available online for Africans to read and educate themselves so they can gain exposure and enlightenment on key issues such as religion, philosophy, science, history, and others, what you find is that most Africans have a disdain and apathy for seeking knowledge.

So, the problem is a lot deeper. Something is wrong at a fundamental level with Africa.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 8:42am On Jul 16, 2023
VeeVeeMyLuv:
Na Europeans dey destroy our Educational sector? Are they the ones responsible for the ultra low sinking HDI (HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INDEX)? Reflecting in the Extremely few industries industries in Nigeria,

IF a country's HDI is low that country will suffer severely
Na Africans dey do themselves
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 7:28am On Jul 16, 2023
A001:
Of Mákànjẹ̀ and Spiritism

Perhaps you have heard of the charmed blade and arrow called mákànjẹ̀ (mustn't cut deep into the blood). Don't be foolish enough to stake your 2 million naira on it that it is not true. But just as some modernists in African studies maintained, mákànjẹ̀ works as a result of phytochemistry (science) rather than spiritism.

Fact of the matter is that the blade or arrow is dipped in a poison extracted from Antiaris toxicaria or other poisonous plants.

According to IITA, common names of the plant include: False Iroko (English), Ooro (Yoruba), Ogi-ovu (Edo), Ebongo (Lakole), Ajiawu (Igbo), Farin loko (Hausa).

Antiaris has a remarkably wide distribution in tropical regions, occurring in Australia, tropical Asia, tropical Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, Tonga, and various other tropical islands.

So, when you see bronze images of Benin warriors decked in Iron plated war wear and àkún beads covering their neck, it is natural to suspect that such might have evolved as anti-poisoned-arrow technology.

Just imagine a society full of different poisons of different havoc at the reach of everybody, what do you think could arrest the mind of evil ones not to use it on perceived enemies? Every little infraction becomes justification for unleashing your own poison.

This was not an African thing alone, this was how indigenous societies lived including Europe, Asia, America, Australia and India. A "poison regulated human interaction" if I can use that. These are my opinions.

Sources:
https://forestcenter.iita.org/index.php/2019/07/24/antiaris-toxicaria/

Antiaris, Wikipedia
Generally, what Africans call juju is science at work. There's nothing spiritual about these things at all, but people that know some secrets of nature (such the priests/babalawos, pastors, alfas) love deceiving others that one juju or other is spiritual.

Yet, the secrets these priests know about what they call juju are scientific in nature. One key reason why Africa has failed to develop is these prevalent superstitious beliefs about juju, god/God, etc.

These beliefs don't make people think critically and limit the development of science and technology in this part of the world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001:
Of Mákànjẹ̀ and Spiritism

Perhaps you have heard of the charmed blade and arrow called mákànjẹ̀ (mustn't cut deep into the blood). Don't be foolish enough to stake your 2 million naira on it that it is not true. But just as some modernists in African studies maintained, mákànjẹ̀ works as a result of phytochemistry (science) rather than spiritism.

Fact of the matter is that the blade or arrow is dipped in a poison extracted from Antiaris toxicaria or other poisonous plants.

According to IITA, common names of the plant include: False Iroko (English), Ooro (Yoruba), Ogi-ovu (Edo), Ebongo (Lakole), Ajiawu (Igbo), Farin loko (Hausa).

Antiaris has a remarkably wide distribution in tropical regions, occurring in Australia, tropical Asia, tropical Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, Tonga, and various other tropical islands.

So, when you see bronze images of Benin warriors decked in Iron plated war wear and àkún beads covering their neck, it is natural to suspect that such might have evolved as anti-poisoned-arrow technology.

Just imagine a society full of different poisons of different havoc at the reach of everybody, what do you think could arrest the mind of evil ones not to use it on perceived enemies? Every little infraction becomes justification for unleashing your own poison.

This was not an African thing alone, this was how indigenous societies lived including Europe, Asia, America, Australia and India. A "poison regulated human interaction" if I can use that. These are my opinions.

Sources:
https://forestcenter.iita.org/index.php/2019/07/24/antiaris-toxicaria/

Antiaris, Wikipedia
Copied from Bode Oje's FB page, the author.

FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001:
Skyview01:
Sometimes, i find it hard to believe the Adam and Eve story in the bible that we all came from Adam.
Why would you believe something without evidence in the first place? How are you related to Adam and Eve from Israel as an African? It's silly tales like this in the Bible, which are stories meant for kids, that has dumbed down the intellectual capacity of Africans over time in the first place.

Highly intelligent Africans have already seen evils of the Bible and Qur'an and discarded and binned the two books, which are mere tools Europeans and Arabs use for subjugation and colonization of Africans.

The Europeans and Arabs seek to rule the world using Christianity and Islam respectively as tools, but most Africans are too dull to realize this, looking for salvation in religions designed simply as a political tool to enslave others.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 6:57am On Jul 16, 2023
MrBrownJay1:
bro educate yourself so i dont have to do it for you.... the western media is telling lies and you believe that garbage withut questioning it:
- the WHEEL was invented by the people in IRAQ (Sumerians), not Europeans.
- there was Medicine in Africa/middle east way before Hippocrates supposedly invented medicine
- the 1st numeric system was created in Africa, way before the west even knew how to count
- the 1st people who invented writing were AFRICANS... aka the proto-Saharan writing
- the 1st human species that use language as a form of communication were AFRICANS (100k years ago)
- AFRICANS were producing steel (Tanzania) way before the so called western industrial revolution
- AFRICANS knew about architecture way before the west... just have a look at The Pyramids of Giza, the Step Pyramid, the city of Great ZImbabwe, the Nubian Pyramids to understand how advanced Africans were in architecture, way before the west.
- AfFRICANS created the calendar system...
- the funniest part in your above confusion is that you even believe that the west created ships, while it is well known that the 1st ship builders were Africans Egyptians, and the earliest drawing of ships were found in Egypt. just because we didnt want to invade OTHER COUNTRIES to call it our own, doesnt mean we were not the creator of the 1st ships. sadly we used it to fish..not to invade/endoctrinate/decimate entire nations (like the west).


BTW the Chinese discovered gun powder, and sadly the western world decided to use it to inavde/kill and have genocide all over the world ever since.... because only people with evil intent would try to conquer the world and steal other people lands/natural ressources.

so yes, to you, intelligence is solely western, but if you look DEEP DOWN, you will see that the origin of it all comes from Africa/middle east. whether you want to admit it or not!
You're still living in the past. Africans generally used to be highly intelligent in the past before their contact with the whites and Arabs and Islam and Christianity.

Today, the average African is less intelligent than the other races. It's a fact, and that's why Africa contributes next to nothing to world's development and is the most backward of all continents in the world.

For any region to develop, high intelligence is needed, along with philosophy, science and technology. These are subjects your typical African detests, hence their low intelligence.

People develop a region, not a god/God. But most Africans, because of their low IQ, would tell you it's God.
FamilyRe: Is The Black Race Intellectually Inferior To The Caucasian Race ? by A001: 10:19pm On Jul 15, 2023
beekind:
Should we conclude that the black man is intellectual deficient compared to the White man ?
Yes, in modern times, the average black man is less intelligent than his peers from the other races. That's the plain truth, and evidence abounds in support of this glaring fact.

However, the black race was ahead in old times before their unfortunate contact with white and Arab colonialists and slave masters.

Religion, colonialism, and slavery have dumbed down the intellectual capacity of most Africans over time, and the continent sadly now has the largest concentration of stupid people on the planet.

Islam and Christianity are harmful to Africa, but most Africans are too dull to realize this simple fact.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 4:16pm On Jul 15, 2023
"Royal Balderdash.

So some "non traditional" Obas in Yoruba land do not know that their towns were established by specific "Odu Ifa" which serves as the pathfinder for their forebears who first settled in the town. The Odu Ifa summarizes the traditional & cultural essence of their towns.

Take for instance, it was an Odu Ifa divinity that decided where the Egba people should settle down "under a rock" when they were fleecing from Oyo/Ibadan war bandits.

Awori people were told by Odu Ifa to follow a floating dish on the river and settled down where the dish sunk (ibi ti Awori si). The town derived its name from that historical experience.

The Odu Ifa for Ibadan is Osa Meji. I think. . Osogbo became Osogbo when some hunters destroyed the "ikoko aro" pot of dye to make Adire cloth and other materials of a woman who resided in the forest. The lamentation and exclamation of the distressed woman that, Ha "" Oso Igbo" had destroyed her means of livelihood, beautiful cultural Osun Osogbo town derived its name from that historical experience. Many Yoruba towns have similar legendary historical and cultural antecedents.

No Yoruba town founded by other means beyond traditional involvement of Ifa Olokun Asorodayo which defined what to be done before a village or town was established while migrating from Ile Ife, Oyo or other towns of origin or occupation Anyway, some of these non traditional wayward Obas didn't go to Ipebi for solitude where there would be tutored on the historical foundations and essence to their towns.

Are these royal rascals to be blamed? Some of them were recruited from abroad where they were trafficking in hard drugs and humans, credit card and travel scam and other financial crimes. Some that were recruited here in Yoruba land were the criminal land grabbers, (omo Onile), political touts, killers and agents of rogue politicians who imposed them on their people with the conspiracy of some dishonorable cowardly kingmakers. How will they respect the tradition and culture of their towns and their people? They don't even know the history of the crowns, beads, staff of office they carry around Owambe parties with red, yellow, orange complexioned women of ease virtues called "their Oloris.

The occupants of Yoruba royal stool are called are called Traditional Rulers, simple and clear. So why did they apply to such an office responsible for the custody of tradition and culture of their people if not " ojukokoro" pokenosing, or just to use the royal privilege to enhance their criminal enterprise?

If they are indeed real Muslims or Christians and they thought their religions are not compatible with the traditional institution, then why did they become traditional rulers and not pastors and Imams, abi? He who that doesn't want to be splashed with water doesn't go to the riverside. It will be wrong for a traditionalist to become pastor or Imam and use his new position to preach Isese on the pulpit. He should go back to his Isese if he's normal.

By the way, tradition does not impose religion on anybody, but what Yoruba tradition and practitioners frown at, is to occupy a traditional rulership and use the position of cultural trust to destroy traditions since no one forced them to apply for the job. No bishop, no Alfa will use their positions as clerics to destroy their respective religion. It's not done, they can only advance it for better practice. By the way, is it not the same God they say we are worshiping?

Let those non tradition traditional rulers leave the palace if they can't cope with the responsibilities or they feel their religions are not compatible with the tradition and culture of their people retrace their steps back to their religions and quit Obaship traditional institution, or their people should chase them away or force them to "open calabash"."

Source: Adeola Soetan via FB
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001:
liveLongNprospa:
Honestly.. Na man.
Lol
Lols, the average Nigerian doesn't really care about the humongous allowances of the National Assembly members once the government continues to fund useless pilgrimages to Saudi and Israel and the politicians build some mosques and churches in communities.

But let a lawmaker recommend that the government stop funding pilgrimages, then all hell will break loose.

When some people say the average black in Africa is less intelligent than his peers in other parts of the world, it seems insulting. But it's just the plain truth.

Most Nigerians will leave serious issues and be focusing on trivialities like religion, tribalism. Yet, hunger and privation know no religion or tribe.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001:
A001:
"The Osun Priestess was dressed in the Osun style and just strolling down the road.

The Alfa was dressed in the style of the Arabs and moving on same road, from the opposite direction.

They both had RIGHT OF WAY.

Neither needed the legs of the other to walk and the road was very much wide enough to contain both of them.

The Osun Priestess was happily chanting her Yoruba poetry to praise the Osun deities just as her ancestors had done for centuries, thoroughly enjoying herself.

The Alfa had his long tesbiu chanting his Arabic whatever and enjoying himself.

They met at some point.

But the Alfa crossed to the other side of the road, stopped the Osun Priestess to challenge her rights to be chanting her Yoruba poetry in praise of an Òrìsà.

Before the woman knew it, Alfa conjured a CANE from nowhere and was brandishing it threateningly.

And he began to FLOG the woman in public and at that very spot.

Mercifully, Yèyé ÒSUN recovered herself quickly, picked up a nearby object and struck it on the head of the hediot.

Alfa is Yoruba man, at least supposedly.

Yèyé Òsun is definitely Yoruba.

It happened in ILORIN, an ancient Yoruba town

I stumbled on that video just this morning and now looking for way to download it.

You can now understand the dangers you put yourselves into when you are too liberal. You can imagine that these funny species of men who call themselves Alfas in Ilorin can actually come with all arrogance to the OSUN GROOVE to stick their Isìlámù into your noses and they expect you to receive them quietly.

But you won't dare, they won't allow.you even dream of bringing a contrary idea near them.

They know why they do that.

They are the proverbial executioner, the HEAD-CUTTERS who will never be comfortable having a matchet-wielding man stay behind him.

The first step to solving these issues is for ALL RIGHT-THINKING YORUBA SONS AND DAUGHTERS to undertake the sacred task of ensuring that NO MAN WHO IS NOT FROM ÌSÈSE OR WHO IS CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM MUST GO ANYWHERE NEAR OUR TRADITIONAL THRONE'S.

And we must start with the Àláàfin's stool.

It will be too dangerous to sit by and allow these barbarians install one of their kinds on the ancient thrones of the Aláàfin Oyo.

It will too dangerous!!!!

We have a duty to be extremely vigilant and DEMAND EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT!

Simple."

Source: Adedamola Adetayo via FB | 14 July 2023
I hope the Oyomesi appoints a prominent Isese practitioner from the royal family as the next Alaafin. Sadly, they'd up appointing either a Muslim or a Christian to hold one of the most prestigious titles in Yorubaland.

This is a prime example that shows slavery and colonialism in Africa never really ended but just changed form.

I don't know what business an African has on the throne as king if they must promote foreign cultures (Islam and Christianity), which are evil and harmful to Africa as these cultures seek to erase the African native cultures and traditions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:10pm On Jul 14, 2023
"The Osun Priestess was dressed in the Osun style and just strolling down the road.

The Alfa was dressed in the style of the Arabs and moving on same road, from the opposite direction.

They both had RIGHT OF WAY.

Neither needed the legs of the other to walk and the road was very much wide enough to contain both of them.

The Osun Priestess was happily chanting her Yoruba poetry to praise the Osun deities just as her ancestors had done for centuries, thoroughly enjoying herself.

The Alfa had his long tesbiu chanting his Arabic whatever and enjoying himself.

They met at some point.

But the Alfa crossed to the other side of the road, stopped the Osun Priestess to challenge her rights to be chanting her Yoruba poetry in praise of an Òrìsà.

Before the woman knew it, Alfa conjured a CANE from nowhere and was brandishing it threateningly.

And he began to FLOG the woman in public and at that very spot.

Mercifully, Yèyé ÒSUN recovered herself quickly, picked up a nearby object and struck it on the head of the hediot.

Alfa is Yoruba man, at least supposedly.

Yèyé Òsun is definitely Yoruba.

It happened in ILORIN, an ancient Yoruba town

I stumbled on that video just this morning and now looking for way to download it.

You can now understand the dangers you put yourselves into when you are too liberal. You can imagine that these funny species of men who call themselves Alfas in Ilorin can actually come with all arrogance to the OSUN GROOVE to stick their Isìlámù into your noses and they expect you to receive them quietly.

But you won't dare, they won't allow.you even dream of bringing a contrary idea near them.

They know why they do that.

They are the proverbial executioner, the HEAD-CUTTERS who will never be comfortable having a matchet-wielding man stay behind him.

The first step to solving these issues is for ALL RIGHT-THINKING YORUBA SONS AND DAUGHTERS to undertake the sacred task of ensuring that NO MAN WHO IS NOT FROM ÌSÈSE OR WHO IS CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM MUST GO ANYWHERE NEAR OUR TRADITIONAL THRONE'S.

And we must start with the Àláàfin's stool.

It will be too dangerous to sit by and allow these barbarians install one of their kinds on the ancient thrones of the Aláàfin Oyo.

It will too dangerous!!!!

We have a duty to be extremely vigilant and DEMAND EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT!

Simple."

Source: Adedamola Adetayo via FB | 14 July 2023
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 12:00pm On Jul 14, 2023
I'm sure a significant percentage of the funds (including loans) allocated for managing the post-subsidy removal period will still be looted by the politicians.

It's the same issue of embezzling public funds that'll make the whole petrol subsidy removal policy fail.

And the country will be back to square one, with the living conditions of people much worse.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:55am On Jul 14, 2023
With the way things are going, the government may end up spending more on palliatives and related interventions to manage the post-subsidy removal period than what they'll spend on subsidizing petrol. The palliatives are just an avenue for the politicians to loot.

The solution to this issue is to fight corruption in the public sector, especially among the ruling class. I hope in a few years, many people won't be regretting this petrol subsidy removal policy by Buhari and Tinubu.

Unless the local refineries are fixed soon and power supply improves significantly across the country within the next couple of years, the petrol subsidy removal policy as hurriedly done by Tinubu won't be justified.

A better approach would have been to reduce cases of oil theft and other corrupt practices in the oil and gas sector and leave the subsidy as it's.

There's nothing bad if an oil-producing nation subsidizes petrol for its citizens if corruption can be reduced to the barest minimum since the refineries haven't been working mostly.

Without minimizing corruption in the sector, I don't see how removing subsidy will have any significant positive effect on the economy and Nigerians.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A001: 7:09pm On Jul 13, 2023
WhoDeyHause:
I pray their oil does not finish or prices drop so they can come and continue collecting our deadwood.
The Arabs are smart as they've already been preparing for a period when oil loses relevance having developed their tourism sector as one of the biggest in the world. So even if their oil gets exhausted, 'owo omogo' (funds accumulated from dumb people) that millions of Muslims around the world contribute for them yearly during hajj will go a long way to support their economy in the future, at least in the next 50 years sha.

Only highly intelligent people know it pays to promote, hype, and support your native cultures and traditions. Sadly, such humans with high intelligence are rare in this part of the world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 6:01pm On Jul 13, 2023
Four Golden lessons as an advice from Steven Weinberg:

When I received my undergraduate degree — about a hundred years ago — the physics literature seemed to me a vast, unexplored ocean, every part of which I had to chart before beginning any research of my own. How could I do anything without knowing everything that had already been done? Fortunately, in my first year of graduate school, I had the good luck to fall into the hands of senior physicists who insisted, over my anxious objections, that I must start doing research, and pick up what I needed to know as I went along. It was sink or swim. To my surprise, I found that this works. I managed to get a quick PhD — though when I got it I knew almost nothing about physics. But I did learn one big thing: that no one knows everything, and you don't have to.

Another lesson to be learned, to continue using my oceanographic metaphor, is that while you are swimming and not sinking you should aim for rough water. When I was teaching at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the late 1960s, a student told me that he wanted to go into general relativity rather than the area I was working on, elementary particle physics, because the principles of the former were well known, while the latter seemed like a mess to him. It struck me that he had just given a perfectly good reason for doing the opposite. Particle physics was an area where creative work could still be done. It really was a mess in the 1960s, but since that time the work of many theoretical and experimental physicists has been able to sort it out, and put everything (well, almost everything) together in a beautiful theory known as the standard model. My advice is to go for the messes — that's where the action is.

My third piece of advice is probably the hardest to take. It is to forgive yourself for wasting time. Students are only asked to solve problems that their professors (unless unusually cruel) know to be solvable. In addition, it doesn't matter if the problems are scientifically important — they have to be solved to pass the course. But in the real world, it's very hard to know which problems are important, and you never know whether at a given moment in history a problem is solvable. At the beginning of the twentieth century, several leading physicists, including Lorentz and Abraham, were trying to work out a theory of the electron. This was partly in order to understand why all attempts to detect effects of Earth's motion through the ether had failed. We now know that they were working on the wrong problem. At that time, no one could have developed a successful theory of the electron, because quantum mechanics had not yet been discovered. It took the genius of Albert Einstein in 1905 to realize that the right problem on which to work was the effect of motion on measurements of space and time. This led him to the special theory of relativity. As you will never be sure which are the right problems to work on, most of the time that you spend in the laboratory or at your desk will be wasted. If you want to be creative, then you will have to get used to spending most of your time not being creative, to being becalmed on the ocean of scientific knowledge.

Finally, learn something about the history of science, or at a minimum the history of your own branch of science. The least important reason for this is that the history may actually be of some use to you in your own scientific work. For instance, now and then scientists are hampered by believing one of the over-simplified models of science that have been proposed by philosophers from Francis Bacon to Thomas Kuhn and Karl Popper. The best antidote to the philosophy of science is a knowledge of the history of science.

More importantly, the history of science can make your work seem more worthwhile to you. As a scientist, you're probably not going to get rich. Your friends and relatives probably won't understand what you're doing. And if you work in a field like elementary particle physics, you won't even have the satisfaction of doing something that is immediately useful. But you can get great satisfaction by recognizing that your work in science is a part of history.

Look back 100 years, to 1903. How important is it now who was Prime Minister of Great Britain in 1903, or President of the United States? What stands out as really important is that at McGill University, Ernest Rutherford and Frederick Soddy were working out the nature of radioactivity. This work (of course!) had practical applications, but much more important were its cultural implications. The understanding of radioactivity allowed physicists to explain how the Sun and Earth's cores could still be hot after millions of years. In this way, it removed the last scientific objection to what many geologists and paleontologists thought was the great age of the Earth and the Sun. After this, Christians and Jews either had to give up belief in the literal truth of the Bible or resign themselves to intellectual irrelevance. This was just one step in a sequence of steps from Galileo through Newton and Darwin to the present that, time after time, has weakened the hold of religious dogmatism. Reading any newspaper nowadays is enough to show you that this work is not yet complete. But it is civilizing work, of which scientists are able to feel proud.

Four golden lessons
Steven Weinberg
Nature volume 426, page389 (2003)Cite this article
Published: 27 November 2003
Scientist
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 3:00pm On Jul 13, 2023
"COMING EVENTS.

*** Public Book presentation.

This Compendium of 490 pages is about the Kiriji War. I have been engaged in the Kiriji War project since my undergraduate days at the University of Ife. The research has taken me through virtually ALL SCHOLARS who had ever ventured into the subject. It has also taken me to many places where the Warlords hailed from across Ekitiland, Ijesaland and Ibadanland. I have interracted with the scions of those Warlords. I have traversed the Kiriji War battlefield countless number of times to unearth hidden proofs and raw pieces of artifacts.

The Final treatise is ready for public presentation at a date to be announced.
Before that, Ogedengbes 113 Anniversary is on the 28th of this month of July. I have been invited as guest Speaker at the event.
Later still Kiriji Festival and the 2023 Yoruba Peace Treaty Day comes up on September 23rd. Again we shall be doing this important Yoruba Heritage proud.
Don't be left out.

Otunba Ojo-Williams.
Otunowa of Imesi Ile.
Sunday Lanipekun Ojo-williams

What a treasure 🖤
This is important because of its significance in Yoruba history and its written by a Yoruba.
Only the Yoruba can tell the authentic Yoruba story. Yours truly will be getting a copy.
#greatyorubapeople"
Source: https://www.facebook.com/100054882645657/posts/799879265184821/?mibextid=Nif5oz

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 12:26pm On Jul 13, 2023
Happy Birthday to Prof. Wole Soyinka. The multi-award-winning literary colossus clocked 89 today. These are the type of people an African with a working brain celebrates, not some pedophile from Arabia or a crook from Israel that was created by Rome.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001:
The Ilorin Muslims that threatened to attack the Osun priestess about her planned festival (which she was forced to cancel) tried to practice Islam as Muhammad and his companions did during their lifetime.

They just tried a little, just like Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, and other terrorist groups in modern times also try to practice what's really a 'diluted' version of the real Islam, as practiced by Muhammad.

It is an interesting sight when Muslims like those extremists and terrorists in Ilorin and in Sharia states in the North try to show the world a glimpse of what real Islam is.

If all these ignorant Muslims, especially those Yoruba adherents in the South-West, could see how Muhammad established and propagated Islam with his companions, no one in his right sense will even think of embracing such an evil religion.

During his lifetime, thousands of innocent people were killed in what the Arab barbarians called "holy wars" just to establish and propagate Islam. Now, hundreds of millions have been killed over time by those fanatics following Muhammad's footsteps of propagating religion using violence and bloodshed about 1400 years ago.

Only enlightened people and informed Muslims (which are rare) know Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, other terrorist groups, Usman Dan Fodio, those Ilorin extremists are/were only following the evil practice of propagating religion using violence and war as established by Muhammad in his lifetime.

Ask yourself why is it that violence and attacks (verbally and/or physically) are the first response of an average Muslim (just like the mumus on this thread) to critics?

Check the means through which their 'noble' prophet established and propagated the religion. Therein lies the answer.

I don't know why your fellow human deserves to die for merely following a certain aspect of his/her culture (i.e., a religion) and rejecting this same aspect from your own culture you're imposing on him/her.

Where's the sense in that?

The Yoruba native religion is an aspect of the Yoruba culture, just like Islam is an aspect of the Arab culture. Religion is just an element of a culture and a mere social construct.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aMfWPo5xx8
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A001: 3:47pm On Jul 12, 2023
Every player is mediocre when compared with Messi and Ronaldo. That means Ronaldo De Lima, Kaka, Benzema, Mbappe, Haaland, and many other great players respected and admired worldwide by millions of fans are all mediocre.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A001: 11:53pm On Jul 11, 2023
WhoDeyHause:
Choupo nothing, sane and coman. All their goals were acrobatic with the last one coming in the champions league final against inter.
Lols
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A001: 11:46pm On Jul 11, 2023
Scoring crazy acrobatic goals sef don become common like pure water. I heard many strikers are scoring them for fun these days. Does anyone know many such strikers that score those incredible goals for fun?

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