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Nostradamus1:
Subsidy payments run till the end of June.

Fuel Subsidy removal has been passed as law by Buhari and comes into effect in July 1st when it is no longer taken care of by the budget

But it was reported in April that Buhari had suspended fuel subsidy removal.

chrisooblog:
Words have always been easy to say action is where the difficulty lies. Let's see how he will succeed where OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ and PMB failed.

Until the courts say otherwise I wish President Tinubu aka Baba Seyi all the best. His success will be our success so I wish him great health and wisdom.

Don't get your hopes up about the incoming BAT government, bro. If it's actually true BAT has removed the petrol subsidy without even giving Nigerians some time to prepare for the tough times ahead, then people will wish Buhari was still the president as woeful as the outgoing administration is.

I hope it's not true BAT will remove the subsidy in this manner even after NUPENG warned him not to take that step hurriedly.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/rlc5K_LGcbI

Taoo done kolo finish 😂😁😁

TenQ:
If I understand you correctly,
You take the distinction between Atheists and Agnostics very seriously: in this case you are NOT an atheist, you are Agnostic.

If I will stretch it a little more:
As an agnostic, you believe in higher dimensions but you don't attribute anything spiritual to them, they are just phenomenon that we do not have physical comprehension for yet. I hope I am correct?

I don't do beliefs. But I posit higher dimensions exist beyond the grasp of the average human. And yes, you can call them phenomena.

As the saying goes: "What we know is a drop; what we don't know is an ocean" — Isaac Newton

TenQ:
All agnostics are first atheists

Says who? Some atheists, due to one reason or the other, become agnostics later on, and some agnostics embrace atheism later as well. As for me, I've never been an atheist since leaving religion years ago and will never be one.

I don't expect the issue of whether God or not to be resolved within the next 50-60 years, so most likely, I'll remain an agnostic for life.

MrBanner:
You sha want to make sure you drag Seun to hell with you if it ever turns out that it exists 🤣

Did you consider the possibility that if the hell of the Muslim god exists, Christians will burn there for eternity as stated in Qur'an?

MorataFC:
Leicester relegated, Everton scaled through happy for them

Fortunately for them -- and unfortunately for us -- they sacked Lampard on time. If not, Everton for don relegate now.

TenQ:
You said:
When the consciousness of a person is altered (such as during sleep paralysis, deep meditation, NDE/OOBE, lucid dreams and other hypnagogic phases/states, or death), they can experience other realms of existence.
Does this mean that you are not an atheist?

No. I never told you I was one. I am an agnostic.

TenQ:
I asked: What kind of experiments would you advise scientists in the 2D world conduct to prove the existence of the 3D space?

You've not given an answer because the keyword was EXPERIMENT: deep meditation, NDE/OOBE, lucid dreams and other hypnagogic phases/states for now are all SUBJECTIVE in nature. Experiments must be Objective and Repeatable.

Where I did list deep meditation, NDE/OOBE, lucid dreams, and other hypnagogic phases/states as experiments in the comment you quoted? What you're asking is what scientists call gedanken or thought experiments, and I stated the answer lies in Mathematics. Whether it's 2D or 3D, mathematics will give you the best proof. You should know this domain lies within mathematics.

I can design a simple thought experiment to answer your question, but I'll still fall back to mathematics to prove my hypothesis. If the mathematics isn't well developed, you can't prove the existence of higher dimensions.

TenQ:
The objective is to discuss a Philosophical and not Scientific question. Using the 1D, 2D and 3D thougth experiment, the question is for instnce: if we are observsers in the 2D space and we know everything about our space, would this knowledge help us to comprehend the 3D space.

Thus the Question:
What kind of experiments would you advise scientists in the 2D world conduct to prove the existence of the 3D space?

It all boils down to mathematics as explained above.

TenQ:
I think you have answered this question from a non scientific point of view.
From spiritual point of view the answer is YES
BUT
from non spiritual point of view, is the answer also a YES?

My answer has a theoretical basis in Physics and Mathematics. Nothing spiritual or supernatural at all. It all boils down to the principle of superposition of waves.

I can give a simplified definition of this based on superposition, resonance, and coherence. But I'll be revealing key parts of a book and a paper I'm working on currently on the subject. That's not meant for Nairaland conversation.

These scientific studies explain the issue deeply:

--"Consciousness in the Universe is Tuned by a Musical Master Code: A Hydrodynamic Superfluid Quantum Space Guides a Conformal Mental Attribute of Reality. The Hard Problem in Consciousness Studies Revisited" by Dirk K. F. Meijer, Igor Jerman, Alexey V. Melkikh and Valeriy I. Sbitnev.
--"Universal Consciousness: Collective Evidence on the Basis of Current Physics and Philosophy of Mind. Part 1" by Dirk K.F. Meijer

They're available for free online.

TenQ:
1. Is it reasonable to conclude unequivocally that higher dimensions than 3D do NOT exist in the Universe?
2. What kind of experiments would you advise scientists in the 2D world conduct to prove the existence of the 3D space?
3. Let's assume that by some Stroke of massive intelligence, scientists in the 2D space have perfect scientific knowledge of their space, would this knowledge be adequate in the 3D space?
4. We know that a person in a higher dimension can interact with those in the lower dimensions: is the converse possible?[/i]

When scientists understand consciousness, energy, and waves deeply, we'll get concrete answers to these questions. The answers to these problems -- just like the solutions to all other challenges humanity faces -- lie in science, not religion.

In modern times, religion has no usefulness and place in the modern world.

TenQ:
1. Is it reasonable to conclude unequivocally that higher dimensions than 3D do NOT exist in the Universe?

Now to the questions you asked: Higher dimensions other than 3D exist. Anyone with basic knowledge of Physics would certainly understand the spatiotemporal nature of reality, i.e. the 4D nature of our world. Minkowski Space in Advanced Physics/Math treats this subject in detail.

The problem here isn't whether higher dimensions of reality exist or not. The issue lies in the limited perception of humans.

Due to the limitations of the brain and our senses, humans can only grasp and make sense of things in 3D and 4D. We can travel forward and backward spatially in 3D (in space) but can't move forward and backward temporally (in time).

So, 4D dimensions exist without any doubt.

Higher dimensions also exist. Even though the current scientific understanding of these dimensions is limited, we'd understand them deeply in the future. Already, significant progress has been made in higher-dimensional mathematics such as quaternions (extending the complex numbers), octonions (extending quaternions), and sedenions (extending octonions).

As a physicist, I regard reality as existing in multiple bases and frequencies, echoing the notion of philosophers like Hypatia and Plato. In the spaces around you (just like the rest of us), there are multiple realms, with each existing independently of the other and separated by a barrier.

When the consciousness of a person is altered (such as during sleep paralysis, deep meditation, NDE/OOBE, lucid dreams and other hypnagogic phases/states, or death), they can experience other realms of existence.

Reality can be scaled at multiple levels or dimensions. We've microscopic and macroscopic scales (as shown in the attached photo below). I prefer to call the microscopic and macroscopic scales the outer universe, which is the physical world. Below the microscopic levels, or specifically below the Planck scale (within 10^-35m orders of magnitude), are nonmaterial realms, which are purely fields of consciousness and energy.

That's the inner universe or inner worlds. These are worlds of thoughts, ideas, feelings, fears, and other emotions.

It is this inner universe you religious people call the spiritual realm.

Consciousness and energy is all that exists -- everything else is a product of the brain's interpretations.

TenQ:
2. What kind of experiments would you advise scientists in the 2D world conduct to prove the existence of the 3D space?

The answer lies in Mathematics and broadening of scope. Whether higher dimensions exist or not is a problem of perception.

TenQ:
3. Let's assume that by some Stroke of massive intelligence, scientists in the 2D space have perfect scientific knowledge of their space, would this knowledge be adequate in the 3D space?

Your question is poorly framed. There's nothing like having perfect scientific knowledge in science. No scientific knowledge is perfect or absolute.

TenQ:
4. We know that a person in a higher dimension can interact with those in the lower dimensions: is the converse possible?[/i]

Yes. Humans in lower dimensions interact with higher dimensions during lucid dreams, deep meditations, NDEs, and astral travels.

Religious texts, philosophies such as Ifa (in Yoruba), languages, and some technological inventions are some products of these interactions.

When a person's consciousness is altered either naturally via lucid dreams and meditations or artificially via psychoactive substances such as entheogens and psychedelics, they can interact with higher dimensions.

The science underlying this is resonance, superposition, and coherence (I might shed more light on this later), and some humans have the gift of seeing into higher dimensions naturally. Ifa, one of the ancestors of Yorubas, was one of such people.

popizaino:
Who is comparing Tuchel with Potter? Well,as i said earlier,let him fail to win the bundesliga first then we will take it from there. For now,let him keep basking on the euphoria of the UCL he never started.

You were celebrating too soon. I didn't see what you and your fellow clowns here were rejoicing about a couple of weeks ago. As I said before, Tuchel will win multiple titles with Bayern, and he's got the first one now.

He'll keep disappointing haters like you.

KingOtem:
Leyqute press itrsm neck. Give am Casemiro style.

You like that name, Otem, abi? The guy is a gifted writer. Every gift comes with its challenges and trials. Or you dey impersonate? Lols
Cc: OtemAtum

I didn't even bother to watch yesterday's match and the game before that as well. Na till next season.

The news of Tina Turner's death brought old, fondful memories. Such a gifted artist! End of an era.

🎙️ José Mourinho on Roma's sporting director Tiago Pinto, who said Champions League qualification was the goal:

"Who said the Champions League was an objective for Roma? I certainly didn't. I always try to be honest, I don't like to sell hot air, I never said Roma were a candidate for the Champions League places.

"When you are competing against the teams in front of us, it would be irresponsible to talk about the Champions League. I never did that. The only thing I am fighting for in the final is the final. There are coaches, players, clubs who only play one European Final in their lives and feel lucky. We are playing our second in a row. This is for me a great season, it will be historic regardless of what happens.

We are friends, good friends but we can have different opinions so that's his problem.

We can write history and want to continue doing it, but qualifying for the Champions League when spending €7m on the transfer market is more than history, more than a miracle. It's like Jesus Christ coming to Rome and having a walk around the Vatican."

Lols, na the last part crack me up. He's right sha, and that's why he is one of the best in the game.

It's clear gambling is what this mumu does for a living. When others were already enjoying a good night's sleep after the day's job, you were busy crying over another nler.

You can resume your cries about Otem this night as well. I can see apart from losing your arm, you've lost your sanity too.

Which normal person says another member is sucking the d**k of another nler even though the two people you're talking about have never met? Ibere were . Naso madness dey start.

Keep it up. You go soon find your level for Aro

So Seun Kuti has been released. Good for him.

Dem don compound Juve's woes. They're losing 3 nil to Empoli after the latest 10-point deduction.

This night's loss and just a win for AC Milan mean Juve will be officially out of next season's UCL.

Were still dey cry, lols. He dey pain me say you dey mention another nler when you no even get the courage to quote me. How old this one be?

Make sure you cry over Otem all through the night. As I said before, it's the dumbest Africans that lament about Otem here. You go wail tire.

Your fellow clowns can join you as well. Na una go tire.

Before you say jack here, the dimwits don mention Otem. Lols. Nairaland is definitely the online headquarters of dumb people.

Arindin, stale tactic. Low intelligence is your problem. Ask your fellow clowns that used Otem's name to abuse me countless of times in the past here what they achieved with the abuse.

They only made a fool of themselves like you just did. Too bad for you that sucking Guardiola's d**k for over a decade couldn't even save your arm when you needed it the most.

raumdeuter:
Guardiola didnt go trophyless as Bayern coach, Tuchel is about to go trophyless as Bayern coach

Same Bayern, only one is trophyless. the first trophyless in 10yrs

Guardiola spent a whole season at City without winning a single trophy. He tried many tactics in his new club then and had to spend millions to revamp the whole squad.

Let Tuchel also experiment and adapt his tactics to the new league, a league he had left many years ago before his return due to the Bayern appointment.

Since you no get arm again being a habitual gambler, you no get the courage to quote me.

omotola90:
Nkunku is considering other options than joining chelsea..wow just wow...

I talk am that time say Chelsea will find it hard to attract top players without getting a spot in UCL next season. But the clueless owners went from a top coach like Tuchel to rookies like Potter and Lampard.

raumdeuter:
Many coaches didnt start the season from the beginning

Tuchel joined when Bayern was in 3 competition and about to finish without 1 trophy
Jupp in 2018 joined in the middle and won, Flick joined in the middle and won,

Many coaches including your Guardiola went trophyless in their first season in a new league. No big deal there.

Unlike Tuchel that just joined Bayern two months ago, your Guardiola started the season with City then and failed to win a single trophy, unlike Pelegrini, his predecessor, who won two titles in his first season in charge at the club.

popizaino:
To ju ba fara bale, a ri mu . The eyes can see the nose if it is steady.

What a time to be here.

So a day will come were you would use time of appointment to defend your Tuchel, meanwhile i
didn't see you making this same excuse for Graham Potter before calling him all sort of names.

You see that[b] pasan ta fi na iyale[/b] Graham Potter,we go take am take flog Tuchel when he the time comes. Just wait.

Lols, you never see what to use celebrate your failure of a coach called Potter. So the fact that Tuchel fails to win a trophy in his first season makes Potter better than him abi? Clown.

Tuchel isn't even the first top coach to go trophyless in his first season. How many trophies did your Baldiola win for City in his first season? None.

In fact, he talked about how difficult the league was in the quote below.

Like I said before, Tuchel will win multiple trophies for Bayern. Just a couple of signings in some key areas and adapting his tactics to the league, the team will be strong again.

Potter spent seven months on the job and failed woefully. Tuchel never even use half of that, you don dey jubilate all about like a clown.

Lols. If Tuchel wins the Bundesliga this season, fools would still downplay it as winning the farmer's league and credit it to Naggelsman.

So una 3KB brain capacity doesn't even know what criteria to use to hate Tuchel, who is the most successful Chelsea coach in modern times.

He win am. Problem. He no win am. Another problem. Unjustified and unreasonable hate na una problem.

Tuchel worked hard and earned the trust, loyalty, patience of fans with his European and local titles. Who be Potter? Wetin he don achieve for him career? Nothing.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

raumdeuter:
Kovac also won trophies with Bayern. He didnt end the season trophyless

Tuchel will be the first coach to finish trophyless in over 10yrs

Finish what? He barely joined Bayern two months ago.

Are you referring to the same Kovac that officially started work as Bayern coach in July 2018 when a new season was about to start?

Roland17:
And another one!!!! Lord help Nigeria...

https://www.nairaland.com/7693892/bello-matawalle-under-investigation-n70bn

These cases are obviously underreported.

raumdeuter:
People with mental problems you mean

Roma that was knocking Barcelona out of CL quarters and playing CL semi in 2018 is what they are calling Europa an achievement for

Lols

andrew444:
Emery and co have won the Europa league with Villarreal and Sevilla and we didn’t see any of gets compared to pep

Mourinho people should rest

I just read the content of the photo and laughed. Agenda tinz

Oga raumdeuter ngbo?

oliverano:
Nothinham Forest has more UCL(2) than City who currently has 0 UCL. If they were to meet today in the UCL, who'll be the favourite?

Also, let's go up a level. Manchester United has 3 and Milan with 7. If these teams were to meet city today, who will the bookmakers tip as favourite? You already know I guess.

The bookmakers knows this that's why they gave City 1.65 and Madrid 6.2 odds to win.

City were favourite yesterday Chief!

I don't have time for argument without head or tail. When two big teams meet, some people can consider one team as favorites. That doesn't make the other underdogs.

No dey mention me anyhow.

raumdeuter:
Man utd has 20 titles, City has 6
If they meet in the league who is favorite and who is the underdog

AC Milan has 7 CL, City has 0

If they meet in the semi who will be favorite or underdog

Both Man Utd and City are big clubs. No underdog between both. But City are the favourites. That doesn't make Man Utd an underdog.

If AC Milan meets City, there's no underdog as well, but City are the favorites based on current form. Both AC Milan and City are big clubs.

When two big teams meet, one team can be the favorites. That doesn't automatically make the other team an underdog.

Trevor012:
If you like watch the match In a planet filled with Madrid fans. They were never favourites for yesterday match. End of discussion.

Clown. Keep arguing with yourself. I'd simply bin your mentions.