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The universe is unimaginably big. Considering this fact, I'm almost certainly sure we're not alone.

Nice thread, though most of the contents are not new to me.

Ibime:
So Quilombola is "no man's land"

Lols

A good step in the right direction that will help culturally preserve the history of the Yoruba people in Nigeria and in other places abroad.

seankafor:
you keep downgrading everyone except yourself

You with your high self acclaimed IQ, what significant thing have you achieved with it?

Black race thrash bla bla bla

Religion trash bla bla bla

You shouldn't read my posts and feel downgraded. If you feel so, perhaps there's some truth in the posts then.

Or you simply ignore the posts if they don't apply to you.

Emmynator:
You said sometime ago and I qoute "The black race is much less intelligent than the other races. That's a fact".
Should I understand your belief of the intellectual inferiority of our race to be based on religion alone?

is it preposterous to believe that we have such level of religiousity because of our economic situation and not the other way around? Religion is the opium of the masses after all.

Do you believe under ideal economic and social conditions people will be less inclined to be religious?

Your questions are not well framed, though they're thoughtful.

About your first question, religion isn't the only factor, but it's a key factor.

Intelligence isn't a racial thing. But the brain, the seat of intelligence, can be affected by one's environment among other factors.

The environment affects the brain development.

This is the main issue with the majority of Africans. When raised in a healthy environment, an African can be as intelligent as any other race, but on this continent, the environment limits how most people (there are few exceptions) use their brain due to the superstitious beliefs, religions, poor infrastructure, poverty, and other factors.

This is why the black race (majority of which are on this continent) is less intelligent than other races. It's not a genetic thing but as a result of the environment and the frequency and level of using the brain.

Mentally tasking subjects such as philosophy, mathematics, programming, science sharpen the brain, and it's not a coincidence that we've much more great achievers in those fields in the First-World countries and some parts of Asia and very few from Africa.

Africans that relocate to saner climes (and the West usually select the few highly intelligent ones) often become achievers in their field.

About the second question: "is it preposterous to believe that we have such level of religiousity because of our economic situation and not the other way around?"

It's both. Most poor people that are religious in Nigeria engage in religion because of their current situation.

Most of those people will reduce (and they often do) their religious activities when things get better for them or if they relocate to the West where they don't have to pray for basic things the government should do.

Some people are religious despite not being poor because they fear God will afflict them with poverty and sickness if they turn their back on him.

So, it goes in both ways.

Whether native or foreign, religions generally are meant for mind control and keeping people in check.

People lead good life without being religious, and many have done so in history, so it's not a necessity.

Religions are mental programmings and personal philosophies of early humans on this planet.

About the last question: Ideal conditions are not achievable on this planet. Hence, I believe there will always be religious people (not necessarily Christians and Muslims) among us now and in the future.

However, I believe with time as science develops (if it develops well) and keeps making breakthroughs, and humans are able to solve the problems on this planet with increasing success using science and technology, the number of religious people will keep reducing.

At some point in the future, I believe the scales will tip in the favor of the irreligious.

Donjazet2:
Omo! You get serious beef with religion oo.

But these history lessons you gave right now are things that are already largely know. The kingdoms of Benin, borno, Ashanti, mali etc.

But the truth is that they have no relevance to our world today. Those kingdoms were defeated by the Europeans because they were more culturally united, hence technologically advanced than us.

But one thing is certain, colonialism is no more the predominant factor behind our stagnation and retrogression.

It is our docility of the masses towards it's leaders and the crop of leaders they have.
Religion is a secondary issue because the vast majority of the world are religious too and you have both rich and poor religious countries.

It's the older Africans that know these histories. Only few young Africans know the history of Africa and the rich history of those kingdoms.

Most Africans don't read and don't know history.

You, for instance, are a good example shouting "Lagos is a no man's land" all about because people like you don't know (and never cared to know) the history of Lagos.

On this thread, you said all African cultures are savage and barbaric. That shows you don't know the history of Africa, and the little you know is from the books of history written by Western authors with many lies and half-truths.

Then, your knowledge of history is limited since you think the Europeans were united culturally in the past. I can see you assume millions of Europeans spoke English language in the past as we've it in the modern times.

Lols. That's far from the truth. In the past, in the pre-colonial era, English wasn't so popular like today, and the Britons themselves had been colonized by the Roman Empire.

Also, in the past, the Europeans fought many wars among themselves, just like Africans did.

The single most important factor that made colonization and slavery successful was the superior military technology that the Portuguese, Britons, French, Germans, and others from Europe had.

Yes, there were a few alliances here and there on the side of the invaders and slavers, just like there were on the home (African) side, too, but without the superior military technology of those countries from Europe, the foreigners would have been defeated.

Moving forward, Africans need to embrace science and technology and know the evils of Christianity and Islam, which are mere political tools of the West and Arabs.

Those foreign religions are a crucial aspect in the success of colonization and slavery in Africa.

Only those whose knowledge of history is very limited, like you, don't know this simple fact.

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ERASING AFRICAN RICH HISTORY


Africa has a hidden history that has been erased from school textbooks around the world. Many people falsely assume that Africa was primitive before European colonial invasion.

They believe the fallacy that it was a place of no cities, empires, commerce and in other words, no civilisation. However, this couldn’t be further from the truth.

Africa has a rich and in depth pre-colonial history of magnificent and unspoken wealthy and developed empires and kingdoms.

In the 12th Century, the Mali Empire was larger than Western Europe and regarded as one of the wealthiest states in the world.

The Mali Empire existed between c1230 to c1600. Ancient pre-colonial art shows the African King Musa dressed in fine clothing and gold.

The Mali Empire consisted of many libraries and Islamic universities and was known as the academic hub of Africa. There are records of Ancient Mali that go as far back as 1068 and archeological evidence shows that Mali was an established civilisation since the 6th Century.

The genealogy of Mali’s kings can be traced as far back as the 10th century. In 1893 the French explorers came back and colonised Timbuktu, stealing and destroying buildings, documents and books.

Some remnants of the ancient manuscripts can still be found in French museums.

Dig deep enough into historical archives and you will find that the African Kingdom of Kongo was one of the largest empires in Africa with a population of over half a million inhabitants, centuries before colonialists set foot on the continent.

The Kongo had a centralised political state that was advanced in farming, metalwork, weaving and textiles.

The Kongo empire spread over the entire West Africa region (which consists of 18 countries today) and had developed cities with houses, communal areas and had an established legal system.

By 1500 BC, the Kingdom of Kongo was trading with other countries by exporting leather, gold, textiles and cattle. In 1914 the Portuguese overthrew the Kingdom of Kongo, having destroyed the empire.

The Kingdom of Benin was a pre-colonial empire that spread through the region, now Nigeria.

The Kingdom (not to be confused with the country Benin) was known as one of the most developed states in ancient Africa, trading in bronze, gold, ivory and iron.

Documents recording political activity in the Kingdom of Benin go as far back as the 1200s and the city was founded in 1180 BC, according to historical records. Walls surrounded the city and they had a military force to protect its inhabitants.

In 1485 Portuguese and British explorers arrived and started stealing and enslaving civilians through the promise of work abroad.

The Ashanti Empire dominated East Africa in the 1600s – 1800s. The Empire was under the rule of the Ashanti King Osei Tutu, who had established a parliament, government, legal system and military.

Before the 1600s the Ashanti Empire existed as many various states of the Akan people. The empire had an abundance of gold that was used for trading with the other African regions, long before European colonialists had ever stepped foot in the region.

Ashanti architecture was breathtaking, with furniture carved from ivory and wood, they had chairs made out of gold and walls were adorned with tribal patterns, mosaic and bright colors.

In 1884 the grandest palace in the region was burnt down by the British colonialists after the Anglo-Ashanti war. Many of the beautiful pieces of Ashanti furniture and jewels that were stolen, remain in European museums today.

Historical evidence shows us that pre-colonial Africa had multiple empires that existed, trading gold, textiles and spices with each other.

We see how the locals, along with their governmental system and commerce, had built vast cities with unique African architecture.

The notion that Europeans “bought civilisation to Africa” is perhaps one of the greatest myths of the century.

It is clear that Africa was abundant and wealthy continent with African rulers who governed their kingdoms, which were burnt, destroyed and brought to ruin by the colonial settlers who tried to claim the cities and empires as their own.

Africa has a phenomenal pre-colonial history that includes law and academia, something that school textbooks fail to mention.

The African furniture and jewellery that we see was created by Africans, having never been inspired by Europeans.

However, that never made Africa inferior, in fact it was because Africa was so superior in the abundance of gold, minerals and textiles that the European colonialists sought to destroy and discredit its legacy.

Africans built powerful, functional societies in the past before they were conquered and enslaved by the Europeans and Arabs.

In modern times, the continent is unable to replicate the same feat due to colonization and slavery and the tools of both — Christianity and Islam.

Hopefully, in the future, more and more Africans recognize the evils of these religions, which are political tools of Western and Arab subjugation, and Africans can build functional societies once more.

For the "Lagos is no man's land" crew, my response about the topic on another thread:

A001:
The indigenes or natives of Lagos State are the people of the Awori, Ilaje, Egun/Ogu people. The Awori are the original inhabitants of Lagos State and are believed to have been the first settlers in the area. The Egun are a group of people who migrated to Lagos from the Republic of Benin, and the Ogu are a subgroup of the Yoruba people who are native to Lagos State.

In addition to these indigenous groups, Lagos State is home to people from other parts of Nigeria, as well as a large expatriate community made up of people from all over the world. Lagos is known for its diversity and is often referred to as a "melting pot" of cultures.

Awori, Ilaje, and Egun/Ogu are all subgroups of the Yoruba ethnic group. Those are the original owners of Lagos, and it is not debatable.

It's a history many Lagosians know.

Potoball don turn us to a laughing stock. Even with an almost full squad, the imbe no sabi beat Everton wey be our wife normally

OasisX:


Ẹ̀gbọ́n don't mind dem. Na play jhoor. BTW.... nkan awẹ mi ńkọ́?

Lols, on the way

"Whoever wishes to become a philosopher will do well to pay attention to the history of science, and particularly to its warfare with theology. With the exception of pure mathematics, every science has had to begin by fighting to establish its right to exist. Astronomy was condemned in the person of Galileo, geology in the person of Buffon. Scientific medicine was, for a long time, made almost impossible by the opposition of the Church to the dissection of dead bodies. Darwin came too late to suffer penalties, but Catholics and the Legislature of Tennessee still regard evolution with abhorrence. Each step has been won with difficulty, and each new step is still opposed, as if nothing were to be learnt from past defeats."

— Bertrand Russell, How to become a Philosopher - The Art of Rational Conjecture (1942), p. 18

An Interesting quote, (gods of) science vs (gods of) religion.

OasisX:


Glorious G.... leave my Ẹ̀gbọ́n alone nah.

He shouldn't. Others can join him as well like they did before. When they finish wailing, I'll still post here as usual.

Being on a fool's errand, they're trying to fill an empty basket with water; they should try harder.

Keep wailing about Otem daily, morning and night. Ma sun ku egbere kiri.

If you've a working brain, you'd know abusing me with the name of another nler is useless. But I can see you're getting more stupid by the day.

I'll be expecting your wailing about Otem tomorrow as well. Ekun legbere sun ku. Wail or not, I'll post here daily unless I'm occupied with other things.

stxrlight:
To be fair, y'all were entertained during my fracas with some other user, though 😂

I skipped the posts like I often do with many posts related to tribalism and politics.

Eazzii:
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You lie. If Potter puts a call to any Mbappe, he'll be in London before sunrise.

You must be keenly following the posts of the Aba-made Fabrizio Romano.

I didn't know this thread has become the "Sexuality" board to discuss your favorite sensual topics.

This one no get brain. Freethinkers are hard to come by in Nigeria, and female freethinkers are even harder to see.

I don't know how intellectualism is related to celibacy.

OasisX:


..... Ẹ̀gbọ́n don't feel shy, you want reconvert bá? Cos you dey follow Islam pass we wey dey do de religion sef.

Bro, in real life, if you see me, you'd think I'm a Muslim. But I only use religion as a tool to socialize and do other activities.

Trevor012:
Ancestors of African men captured and enslaved during the Arabic Islamic slave trade will still go to Mecca to kiss a black stone and pray to their deity and be forming Holy.

Repackaged paganism. If only the African traditionalists were as smart as the Arabs and packaged their religions well, writing their holy books, building big shrines for their deities (not all these dirty buildings), doing their rituals in open places, not in forests, and abolishing barbaric parts of their rituals.

Muslims will start their rituals on Thursday during the month of Ramadhan, such as eating at dawn, breaking their fast, and kissing a black stone during hajj/umrah and other activities.

Tomorrow na asamu, the shrines of the Arabian deity go full tomorrow night

stxrlight:
Ehen abi? 😄

Okay, na.

The coming days will be interesting.

Coming days ke, you know this case will take time to reach a tangible conclusion unless you're suggesting the court will strike it out for lacking in merit.

Ibime:
They should stay away from Sanchez, that guy is useless

Raya is also too short

We don become a small club now, bros, and will find it hard to attract big players since we won't be playing in the UCL next season, all thanks to Boli and poto poto

Hope all these meetings between Jinping and Putin bring the Russian-Ukrainian war to an end soon.

TheBillyonaire:
Hahahahahaha. I love tribalism. I am not from Edo, so now you are creating more enemies. All these crying happens because I reminded you that you are a curning nameless people whose name is a Fulani word, for the 'curning' tribe? It was not an insult, I was surprise when I saw it on Wikipaedia.

My question is, what is your Tribe's real name, since Fulanis had to give you that name? Are you nameless?

When I said your Ancestors and your Gods are cowards or defeated entities, It was also not an insult, because Benin people, aka Bini had to name that land Eko and the Portuguese named it Lagos. Again, one can not name a place he did not own, so the historical records show that Edo Benin 'Bini' people owned that land and Portuguese owned it. There is no record of 'Yoruba' owning it and there is no 'Yoruba' name for Lagos, so where is the evidence that the 'Yoruba' people owned it?

The Federal Government had to end the ownership of Lagos after 99 yrs and transfer the title to the Nigerian State and it was held as Capital until IBB transfered capital to Abuja, then Lagos became an Economic Capital where all aboriginal peoples of Nigeria own stakes in it.\

Of all the people with title to Lagos, Niger Delta oil fueled and and still fund Lagos. And as a Niger Deltan, I hereby claim ownership of Lagos on 2 fronts - (1) My God-given resources and the generousity of my forefathers who allowed our oil and gas to be mined and shared gives me full Rights over my Lagos, as my Estate. (2) I own Real Estate portfolio in Lekki and I am by virtue of that investment a true Lagosian than most of you people masses.

Let it be known from this day onward, that this tribalism that you have brought to our door steps is your greatest mistake. And your children will beg for bread in Lagos. We will continue to buy your graves and the graves of your ancestors and turn them to private estates.

Your children will continue to sell the remaining lands for us and we will continue to build and control the rents and lease of that slum called Lagos.

The indigenes or natives of Lagos State are the people of the Awori, Egun, and Ogu people. The Awori are the original inhabitants of Lagos State and are believed to have been the first settlers in the area. The Egun are a group of people who migrated to Lagos from the Republic of Benin, and the Ogu are a subgroup of the Yoruba people who are native to Lagos State.

In addition to these indigenous groups, Lagos State is home to people from other parts of Nigeria, as well as a large expatriate community made up of people from all over the world. Lagos is known for its diversity and is often referred to as a "melting pot" of cultures.

Awori and Egun/Ogu are all subgroups of the Yoruba ethnic group. Those are the original owners of Lagos, and it is not debatable.

It's a history many Lagosians know.

Lols, a lunatic dey cry for mentions

Donjazet2:
Abeg no vex oo, why is every single one of your posts laced with insults and abuses?? It's almost like you can't make a point without abusing the person you are trying to talk to.

You call every single poster ignorant or low IQ while posturing as the know it all. Haba now.
Reduce the temperature of your posts abeg.


I don't know why I'm expecting that your reply to me will definitely contain the word fool or ignorant or something derogatory but if you can, please control it.

I no get your time. If you're a slave who says all cultures in the world should be abolished except the English culture, I should praise you?

I'm not here to massage your ego or be friends with everyone. I say things as they're.

I engage only a handful of posters here, and you call those "every single poster"? Always reacting emotionally to things.

In modern times, the evidence abounds that blacks can't build and develop a functional, well-run society.

I hope in my lifetime, black people develop enough intelligence to achieve this feat.

For that to happen, we need many critical thinkers that relegate religion (especially foreign religions) and tribalism to the background and embrace science and philosophy instead.

It all starts from the mind — a free mind not an enslaved one.

The slave dey defend his masters in the West exonerating the colonial masters and slavers. This one is even worse and so unintelligent that he doesn't even know he's a slave.

Lols. Your brain go evolve one day sha maybe in the next 50 years so you'll understand that both the West and Africans themselves are responsible for their current plight on the backward continent.

But you can keep blaming only Africans to serve your masters in the West.

If a person is foolish enough not to know how he got to a current bad state, he'd repeat the mistakes that put him in his current predicament again and again.

Sadly, many fools like you are on the continent that don't know how they got to the current poor state, and if the West wants to colonize African countries again, many Africans will welcome them readily.

It's so difficult for them to use foresight to think deeply and critically about things.

There are some posters I won't waste my time engaging on this thread because of their low IQ.

An example is the poster that just quoted me now talking about wars and slavery in the past fought in Africa.

I'm sure the fool can't read clear statements in English I made on Nairaland where I condemned the barbaric practices in African cultures countless of times.

A dimwit that believes there are no confirmed facts in natural science isn't worth my time.

I'm sure there's something about being African that makes people like him dull and seeking to be enslaved by the West, like many of his fellow Africans on the continent with empty brains.

Wars and slavery are evil regardless of who engage in them or where they're practiced.

When emotions are what control your thinking instead of logic, you won't know when to stop making silly statements and fanning the embers of tribalism, being a willing tool for the politicians who use tribalism as a tool to divide us.

Instead of typing meaningless epistles on Nairaland, just say "Lagos is a no man's land" among the natives/indigenes in the state.

You'll get your answer from them. But don't cry about targeted attacks on Ibos later on because of your stupidity.

I'll be ignoring anyone that mentions me on this sort of silly discussion. Empty brain

Amigoss:
Spreading misinformation,how? Because I shared a funny meme,I found funny

Did you read my subsequent post about Russia and Putin?

Your caption in that post didn't indicate it was a joke. And I asked you if the picture is a deep fake, you said "no".

What does that mean? I asked for the source, you said you got it from Twitter instead of simply saying it's a meme.