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Valentine's?? Ki lon Je be??

Ma Madam was under house arrest anyway so i was with ma gang shooting dice,pool and of course taking our Sunday Sunday tonic

duduspace:
I don't deny most of what you say, mutually beneficial it definitely is, my question is this, are you or any of the persistent moaners the one putting the money into the club? Most of the share holders like Kroenke and co don't even draw salaries from the club and the club has never once declared a dividend to its shareholders while ploughing back all the profit back into the club, the accounts are there for all to see, Wenger gets his salary cos he does his job in implementing the club's strategy, he doesn't even have shares in the company at present because he doesn't want a conflict of interest.
The Newcastle fans made so much noise about Mike Ashley last season, are they making noise now when they are in the championship and reality dawned that noone wants to buy the club? when you see clubs falling like stones round you, please learn to appreciate what yu've got and don't belittle it, it is all well for Sauron and Dayokanu to belittle your club and manager because they want you to feel small in supporting your club, see the positives in the direction your club has taken, or if you can't see any, tone down the negative talk since you can't do much about it anyway.

If the profit is being ploughed back into the club is it used to service debts or sign minors from Nicaragua?? Or both?? All these things should be the job of the GM and not Wenger and with that we are already giving him an alibi for failure!! No wonder we have not been able to work on our on-field issues

How much did Mike Ashley invest in Newcastle Compared to his mates?? Besides he obviously was too hands-on in his approach for someone who knew precious little about football.

I am not belittling Arsenal or Arsene!! I am venting my frustrations at a man who seemingly has not learn from his past mistakes. Policy or no policy Arsenal should be doing better than they are now! Maybe you believe in patting backs and massaging egos i believe in tough love. I will in no wise kiss a.s.s and not point out whats wrong so we can move forward that has not been working for a while now

duduspace:
Of course we don't need to sell to a sheikh, a lot of us don't even want any silly money bag coming to treat our club like some sort of plaything particularly these days when some sheikhs are turning out to be poorer than church rats. You are so proud of our style of play and you say it with pride but have you asked yourself if that style of play suddenly appeared out of thin air or if its the culmination or part culmination of some strategy running through the club and being pioneered by somebody? You say we don't need this or that but those who are outperforming us are exactly making use of what yu say we don't need, a rich benefactor in Abrahamovic and being neck deep in debt like Manure, can you please show me a club outperforming us and is not doing any of what you mention we don't need?

Its not just about money to blow. Ranieri also blew money with Chelsea and didn't win much well maybe not as much money as Mourinho but my point is our problem is not just the money or the lack thereof. Its about a deep lying mentality that is lacking a problem that this strategy or youth policy would not solve barring any changes to our methodology. I am proud our style of play yes but we never seem to have a Plan B when faced with adversity. This is not a problem any billionaire can solve. The major difference between us winning and losing the league in the past couple of seasons has been defence!! This is an issue i have raised a gazillion times! We have seen teams with even more meagre resources outperforming us in that area in recent times. Are any steps being taken to remedy that??

duduspace:
A winner's mentality comes from maturity and experience, a youth policy needs time to gestate and reach that peak, it is a credit IMO to Arsene that he has guaranteed at least a minimum top 4 finish during this period while bringing us close on occasion during this time, can you show me any other club that embraced a youth policy in recent times yet has still been able to keep such high standards both domestically and in Europe?

So who are the inexperienced fellas in the current Arsenal setup?? And how many more years do we wait for them to mature and gain that "Requisite Experience" A sizeable bunch are in their third or fourth season at Arsenal already. There are a lot of other clubs that have embraced a youth policy but still take out time to do the right thing when they are supposed to which is buy the right kind of players to compliment the team. Our youth policy sef is not full-fledged and encompassing there are still a few old heads in our team or peeps that where bought from other clubs. And if we want to talk about Europe please lets not go there our record amongst England's big four is nothing to write home about! We are the only team that has lost to every member of the big four in that competition. They might be high standards to you but to me they are not high enough

duduspace:
I will not comment on individual players much but i will only like to point out that for whatever reason, the team has performed better this season without Ade or Kolo Toure than it did last season, infact at the beginning of the season, a lot of fans now complaining now were applauding it like some stroke of genius.Last season we were already out of contention for the PL, the money gained from sale of those players does not necessarily have to be used to buy like for like, there are management decisions in this things involving wages, interest payments e.t.c for which I don't have enough data to determine the good or bad in these decisions. Have you considered if part or all of the money made from the sale went into giving our other players longer term contracts?

The team has performed better because our midfield has been providing more than its own fair share of goals! The attack was not doing too badly till RVP went down with injury read my post well i did not say we should not have sold Ade and Toure all i am saying is get better replacements for them and not osho-free and 750,000 pound players!! Yes we are in contention but all that could change very quickly with injury to any of Gallas and Vermaelen and then the season would end again and y'all would still come and sing that "Youth Policy" hook again for us. Who are the other players that where given the longer term contracts? Do they get paid in lump sums or is it not a rolling thing?

duduspace:
If you still feel the policy is some form of cover up then I'm at the end of my tether, I will have to throw my hands up in surrender cos there isn't much more I can say, I do know however that not all of our key players can leave at the same time, I also know that the club is aware of this and this is why we are tying our young players to long term contracts.
I have never been one to bother my head about what I have no control over, the day I came to the conclusion that Arsenal had embraced a youth policy, I got interested in our youth setup and the whole academy system as a whole. The day will come when the youth that came through our youth setup like Barazite, Wilshere and co will win silverware and I would be happy to recall the days they were young lads coming through the academy or when I went to the Reebok to watch Jack Wilshere while on loan at Bolton.
I personally think that is what it means to be a fan and not only rejoicing when they win something big even though that is also an important part of it.

I tend to see it as an excuse when season after season i see the same errors made and i see the same manager unwilling to address these issues and make requisite changes. That i make criticisms here and there and point out areas we urgently need to improve to end this drought does not make me less of a fan and if your idea of being a fan is to shy away from the truth then i am sorry we are unlikely to ever agree on much as regards Arsenal

dayokanu:
Beckhma wont make top 5

Mihajlovic, Koeman, Stoichkov,Rivaldo, Juninho and Ronaldinho are all better

Rivaldo, Ronaldinho better free-kick takers than Becks?? You even added Koeman because he scored a random goal in a European Cup final!! I laugh in Papieluwe

I woulda given you some credit if you even included Thomas Hassler your list

Bedrock - Young Money (Nicki Minaj ohh Nicki Minaj )

Morning After Dark - Timbaland ft Soshy & Nelly Furtado (Addicted to this tune)

FL Gators:
Where's plat?

Gotta agree with her, dudu osun works. . . . my scars are fadding. Esp the craw craw on my ynash

Olorun oba ooh!! You just spoiled the Yoghurt juice taste in my mouth

lalaboi:
Damn. . .Etherington got injured today

Bomboclaaaaaaaaaaaaatt!!!

Its Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and Deshawn Stevenson for Josh Howard, Drew Gooden and Quinton Ross. Shawn Marion has been a massive disappointment this season, it seems his point-o-meter stops at 12

I dont mind Tough juice my only problem is with the inclusion of Gooden in the deal! Abeg make dem take out Gooden and give them Ross,Singleton and Carroll along with Howard instead

Na who watch All-star jam? Ol boy T.O is no joke i thought last year was a fluke. I miss the AA sha

Brashy a Scouser would declare Sharia on u for that statement! He is only playing cos Torres is injured! truth be told he is one of the worst strikers in the Prem

@Duduspace
Ol boy the reason the board is sticking with Arsene is simple. Its a mutually beneficial collabo

The Board members dont wanna lose their shares

Arsene enjoys his job-security, fat pay cheque and cult figure demigod status at Arsenal

You don't need Haitian voodoo, headless chickens or ouija boards to decipher that

We dont need to sell to any damn sheikh or get neck-deep into debt to win trophies!! Our style of play if tweaked can win us things easily

This excuse of policy is just overkill. This idea of buying 100 toddlers from Sri Lanka would not solve our problem

How about growing a winners mentality (Events from this season has shown me they still need classes)

Toughen up on D (We have arguably the worst defence among the top 8. A big regression from last season! So what has changed?)

Getting your transfers right (Sold Adebayor did not get a decent replacement and we where left with injury prone inexperienced forwards! Sold Toure and only brought in Verma then loaned Senderos and brought Grandpa Campbell on a free)

The policy is just a cover up and if the issues i just listed dont get fixed! key players just may leave the club and this so called policy may move back a few more years

Richard Dunne mehn that dude used to move like a freight-liner while at City

Joe Hart: If there was a category called saves per game he would be undisputed leader

Mrcrackles wetin David Ngog dey do for your list

Disclaimer: This post is simply for sarcasm purpose. If you miscrue ma mix of humor and sarcasm for anything else na you know

Yahoo-Yahoo is Nigeria's gift to the world

Iraq gave us bombers

Peru gave us china-white (heroin)

Colombia gave us cocaine

Jamaica gave us ganja

The Germans gave us beer

In other words we all have our vices

Crime rate has reduced to an extent in a lot of areas due to yahoo i dunno if y'all have noticed but i would give an example. Ma neighbourhoods in the late 90's early Two thou's was like Compton where a gunshot was like your doorbell that has kinda reduced since yahoo boiz came to town

In a nutshell Nigeria's problems are bigger than Yahoo and while Yahoo is not the way, We as a Nation have to solve those underlying problems first or else Yahoo would not die it would only multiply

Ma take on the song goes thus:

This tune is like a condom jingle! People wey go $hag raw go $hag raw. The thing is these Microsoft peeps did not do their research at all judging by the artistes they picked. Sometimes its not about the message its about the messenger! M.I, Banky W, Modele, Omawumi. These are more or less ajebo or omo mummy artistes your average runz boy/street hustler cannot relate with these fellas! Why could they not pick say a 2face, Pasuma, Obesere, Eedris, Dbanj, P-square e.t.c yeah i know some names there are ridiculous abi? But then again its not always about the message its about the messenger

@HNIC
You are more than welcome

@Duduspace
You say you are not a yesman yet before i type Duduspace you go on to exhibit one of their traits. Can you see how you smoothly side-stepped those issues i raised and started waxing about the future again? Instead of being specific about his flaws y'all go generic and make neither here nor there comments, This youth policy/business model is a ready made rationale/excuse for why we can't win a trophy! I ask is that the sole reason we've been trophyless and if not what other rationale do you think is responsible? By the way how youthful are signings like Silvestre & Campbell? Thats like Fergie signing Jaap Stam!

If Wenger did the 'Right Thing' like Spike Lee he could still run his youth shindig and win trophies or you think say na only Arsenal get academy?
Can you picture us having a run of 5 games with Campbell & Silvestre at CB? Do you think we would be able to maintain any serious title challenge?

I really hope we don't end the season trophyless but if we do i'm sure you guys would fall back on the same excuse that has been played more times than the 'Thong song' instead of addressing on-field issues! and we expect $hit to change? the only thing changing would be diapers on babies

@Slimshay
Ohh dont get me wrong it is not a matter of me giving up before the battle is over. I have seen stranger things happen in football (Milan vs Liverpool, Mali vs Angola) i fully believe Utd & Chelsea would drop points but you look at that squad and you wonder if Arsene put himself in a position to take advantage. Yoruba people talk say na for morning you go know as day go be. I have seen Arsene making the mistake of not fortifying the squad and it coming back to hurt us too many times to start bussing nuts at this moment. And if you mistake my disaster prevention approach (you may call it radical) for lack of faith of support then that one na your own okele of . . . . . (i'll let u tell it)

@Duduspace
I won't sit here and say Arsene has not tried for Arsenal he has but sometimes i think y'all give him too much credit so much so that when he makes clear errors in judgement. Y'all give us history lessons and blah blah blah instead of addressing the issue. Lemme give y'all an example

Q: Why did Arsene not get a decent striker or better backup defenders other than Campbell & Silvestre

A: Arsene knows! In Wenger we trust! We are building for the future

Q: Why are we so porous at the back why have we consistently had the worst defence among the top 4? Why do we keep conceding cheap goals from set-pieces & counters

A: Do you know Arsene is building a sustainable business model, it would outlast him and vindicate him in the future. Check out our youth program na

These are not the correct answers to the issues at hand!! Not once do y'all Arsene yesmen question his methods, tactics and modus operandi even though he has been getting em wrong for the past 4 & a half years!! Why should injuries to one or two players wreck your title ambitions if your squad is good enuff

07/08: Some say it was injuries to Eduardo,Sagna,Flamini,Toure that cost us titles
08/09 Some say it was Cesc,Adebayor and at the latter stages Gallas that hurt us

So what makes you think 2010 would be different?

Stereotypical Nigerian always answering question with question as a mod you should be a bit helpful

Charles Barkley's comments on the Celtics on Inside The NBA

'People keep waiting on them to get healthy. I mean no disrespect but old people don't get healthy, They Die'

Wait lemme get this straight is it Yuri Zhirkov or Yuri Jerk-off cos it sounds more like the latter when i listen to commentators

@Bgees
Wenger is a better manager of resources but Rafa Benitez has been more successful 2 spanish titles and a Uefa Cup and UCL back to back in a shorter span tells me Rafa is the more accomplished one

I still insist your excuses are weak cos your squad is far more expensive than ours. Your manager has spent more pesos so i really don't get your point! How many Arsenal players have made FIFpro XI in recent times? Y'all have Gerrard and Torres so i ask again on what basis is our squad better and if you insist its not better then i ask whose fault? Since you have spent more!

@HNIC
Happy birthday bruv. Hope u do have a blast

@Dr Kit
Haha no mind Slimshay (our in-house 50 cent) maybe he has not heard of checks and balances which if we had more of at Arsenal we would not be in this trophyless quagmire! Its not a coincidence that we have won so little since Dave Dein left!

What we have now are some yesmen and fans with blind faith that cannot muster the cojones to question this man's methods instead all we hear is 'Arsene Knows', 'In Wenger we Trust', 'E go better next season' 'Keep the faith' instead of the man to do wetin im suppose do

Ronaldo Luis Nazario De Lima!! There is only one! any other one na counterfeit (C.Ronaldo,Adriano,Robinho,Romario e.t.c)

Kobe out for the All-Stars!!!

Pa Jason Kidd to replace him!! Mehn this has to be the oldest backcourt in All-star history, if you add their ages up it must be at least 70 years they might have as well called Mark Jackson and John Stockton or Pistol Pete and Oscar Robertson

Who plays Shooting guard between them sef? I see an assist extravaganza though

Your argument was a weak one and it has been kicked to the kerb. Why is our squad better than yours? How are we richer than you when Rafa has spent more in 6years than Wenger in 14? How did you come up with that mumble-jumble?
And if you still think we are on the same boat then just miss out on UCL qualification and lets see whether clearance sale no go begin for Anfield


B.T.W: Try change your siggy its kinda gay

@Doyin13
Maybe you where hunting for deers with Sarah Palin at Alaska when Theo Walcott was one of the standup performers in the 06/07 and 07/08 season either as an impact sub or starter i can count how many games he came in and either won us a game or rescued a point for us. His problem has been injuries! come-on he's had all kinds. Knee, Two shoulder operations e.t.c and he's not 21 yet. He would come good stop hating on him you are older his father

@Kaypumpin
Its very annoying! This is why i laugh in K1 The Ultimate when peeps say Arsene knows what he's doing and what not i mean if David Moyes could pick someone from the MLS what really is Arsene's excuse for not copping or loaning a striker? With the 4 deathmatches behind us we woulda been more confident about the run-in

Arsha could use a breather to be honest and we could temporarily give Song a layoff but the area we cant afford such is in the heart of defence, this is another area of worry which Arsene has treated with levity

@Maedan
On the real though you guys have not faced half the taunts we had to face after dual losses to Utd and Chelski maybe Bgees woulda commited suicide if he was a Gunner. You guys should be happy we still infiltrate this place after any loss it shows y'all are still somewhat relevant

@Bgees
We have a better squad than y'all? On what basis? Rafa might be more successful than Wenger but he is the most wasteful manager on God's green earth!! The funds he has squandered buying duds since landing at Anfield woulda bought y'all another stadium. So your excuses could use a wheelchair or should i rundown his scandalous signings? Nah i'll let you tell it. You should even be ashamed that with two billionaires or is it one now? your manager cannot assemble a better squad and not shamelessly highlighting it. Shior!


We might both not be winning trophies but ma team's long term future is more secure and if i where you i would pack ma bags to MFM Prayer City and pray so tey Liverpool go finish for top 4. Cos una no fit pay Torres & Gerrard salary with Europa Cup guap

@Maedan
Maa biinu Ma'am, you know what they say when the proverbial 'Yanga' wakes 'Trouble' up. Tell your scouser buddy to be a good sport next time around. All dis back and forth abuses ain't ma style

@Follypimpi
Nasri is suffering from SSS (Sophomore Season Syndrome) i am silently hoping it does not happen to Verma next season plus his season has been stop and go basically also the 4-3-3 formation has taken him a minute to adapt to! Last season he was one of the few shining lights in the team and he did pop in some shots i recall him slaughtering Van Der Save like a Sallah ram and goals against Everton & Hull also come to mind but after a year at Arsenal with Wenger's monkey post training methods its only normal you would lose some of your shot power just ask Rozzy. Ma humble submission for now is he simply lacks the pace to function there and is more of a passer/playmaker than a dribbler

As for Walcott he has shown me enuff in the past for me to still have faith in him i may bash here and there but the boy is not 21 yet all he needs is an injury free run. He is still our most viable option for counters (an element that has been seriously lacking since Henry left) probably the only one aside Arshavin who can blitz past defenders he just needs to work on his ball control and decision making and i'm sure he would knucle down and do just that

@Bgees
You are the biggest loser i have seen on NL thus far. See your lame and paralyzed excuse! You should be shot in your left scrotum and fed to pigs. You are a disgrace to all Scousers living or dead! Is it my fault that your club is so poorly run that even with two billionaires you are still struggling to break even? What has your imbecillic reasons above have to do with the price of bokotor?

Haha i can talk about dancers & musicians for all i care but the truth is you are still too mentally challenged to break bread with me when it comes to footie

You are the one who could use a intimacy change nigga as your replies to ma post oozes oestrogen i can smell the biatch in you its everywhere like a WIMAX signal. Why e no go pain you? Sensitive, emotional tramp i shoulda guessed you where on your period

@HNIC
They are winnable but they are games we would drop pts if we don't show up. We have to play each game like a cup final

As for the Chav & Manure duels the most annoying part for me was the fact that we gave away all 5 goals every single one was cheaply conceded. They had better shake this defeatist mentality because we would have to get past both teams to achieve our goals

As for Walcott i am uber-shocked at how badly his game has dropped this season. He and Nasri have to be our biggest regressers so far i can't place ma finger on whats wrong with the fella. He can't run with the ball, cannot pass, his deadly balls into the area seems to have vanished e.t.c but we have seen his ability and i feel we need to play him into shape cos on his day he is a difference maker and brings a different dimension to our front line thats basically filled with central midfielders (Wenger Rosicky & Nasri are not wingers)

We might also need to add some variety to our 4-3-3 formation! It would not work against every opponent

I dont know about y'all but after seeing how ordinary Villa & Everton made Manure & Chelski look i cant help but be a little disgusted at Wenger and the lads for making them look better than they really are and if you consider Everton where missing Pienaar & Fellaini if you where not pissed before you would be pissed now! We all saw how the presence of Saha was forcing Terry & Carvalho into mistake after mistake! Thats why we where on our knees begging Wenger for that striker! Later someone would come here and tell me Arsene knows. O know ti

As for the game there's not much to be said really we did what we had to do to win. Shikena
I do think i have to start some Walcott bashing though seeing the wonders its done for Diaby

As for whether we can catch up with the top 2 i say lets do our part! I would have been more confident if Arsene had done the right thing. There are still a few tricky fixtures so lets not get our heads in the clouds


@Hull
@Stoke
@Birmingham
@Tottenham
@Blackburn

vs Man City

Hahahahaha. The thing pain Bgees oh. See this overgrown cry baby. Asiwaju awon were. So you even know your team is $hit! What a slobbering i.m.becile you are

Schweppes is razz? Haha i'm a Niger Deltan and we use it a lot but maa binu cream-boy i know i am razz but probably more exposed than u will ever be in your miserable

We in the same boat? Dummy you are 14pts off the top and may not even make top 4. With City,Villa and Spurs on your a.s.s

Sensitive,emotional,retarded a.s.s nigga! Pull your skirt down and dont mess up ya makeup

@Borat
Duff's case is understandable, Fulham easily won on Tuesday but how can you give bonus pts for a draw?? Arshavin balled well his team won but he wasn't given nada