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larride:
Please stop this nonsense.

In the first post to nihilist that I responded to, I clearly highlighted that community policing will be the game changer to our security issue.

We have a police force that’s understaff and stretched out, Infact the army is at the moment overstretched because they are doing the work of the police. Decentralize the police and let each community police themselves.

I have had this discussion before with ib.ime on this thread and my stance is clear. I do not do whataboutsim.

Infact I don’t even talk about APC like that or this thread but any small discussion whenever you guys see my moniker you just hibernate your thought process and start inferring what is not in my post.

You guys should stop that nonsense.

Failure is indeed an orphan. You're quick to defend any APC achievement here and inundate us with nonsense.

Now that we highlight their glaring failure you deny them like an illegitimate child. We all know about Community policing Captain Obvious. Why then are your principals not implementing it. Why can they not catch anybody? Why do we have your leaders speaking to the masses like they are powerless citizens and not the ones entrusted with securing life and property

This is what you should be explaining not this drivel you wrote here

larride:
During the EndSars, I had an argument with Ib.ime about community policing and that is what my stand will always be. We have a lot of ungoverned space which criminals take advantage of to carry out their activities.

There has been debate and bills to decentralize policing in the country which has always met obstacles but it is something we must continue to advocate for. That is the only way we can effectively combat the numerous insecurity issues we have. COMMUNITY POLICING.

I have nothing against that people that want to Japa if they have the means and resources to do so but I still stand on my initial post that Japa can never be the solution for a country of more then 200m people because 10% of the citizens can’t Japa. It’s the honest truth.

I don’t know how party talk comes into the discussion when it’s not even as if we are talking about a party or an individual.

Your party is in charge in the state the attack happened, is in charge in Kaduna, in charge in Federal. In charge in Senate. If these bills are not passed whose fault?

We have been debating over 7 years. Debate no dey finish?

Allow people attacking your party to do so. You are affiliated with them so it's part of collateral damage

What is the difference between people shouting japa. And you advocating for the community policing that will never be implemented. What makes your argument superior to theirs?

larride:
So killings are okay as long as the criminals are caught.

I did not stop anyone from venting or expressing their frustration, I am not the cause of you not being able to properly interprete a simple statement that has no political undertone.

Killings did not start today and will never stop. So I don't understand this your jejune question
Your nonsense whataboutism is always the problem here. There will always be crime till the world ceases to exist. We know this

What separates the cesspit Nigeria has become to other countries is that you at least know for sure the killers will be caught

Where have you seen criminals ever get apprehended in Nigeria? You had bandits attack a train. Federal Government property in Kaduna. Kill people, kidnap people And the government did not catch anybody. Could not apprehend anybody. Southern Kaduna nko? Middle belt nko

And you're here talmbout Japa is not a solution. No shit Sherlock. What is now the solution. What solution have you proposed here besides dropping megedefegede party man arguments

larride:
I’m not stopping anything. It is insensitive of you guys to keep shouting japa japa as if you are reading to give them the financial resources to japa.

Anyone that has any idea of Owo and where the church was located will know it’s most likely insiders that carried out the attack. Owo has one of the lowest number of police in the state with little or no DSS/Army presence. Those other security agencies only come to area when the Governor is around.

Now how many people will japa save in that town? Most probably less than 10% that’s even if they have the resources to japa but effective community policing will stop most of these attacks from criminals/terrorist.

You are well within your right to not give a fûck about the country but please stop this japa japa japa talk everytime a tragedy occurs. The highest number of people that japa annually from the country no even reach 50k out of a population of 200m.

Japa is not a solution.

What solution is your party providing to stop this carnage. Stop telling people japa is not a solution while endless carnage and killing keep occurring in your party's watch and they are showing zero competence to come up with solutions.

Telling people to Japa is better than what your party is currently doing. They're arguably the reason more Nigerians cannot japa

You can't beat a baby and tell it how to cry

nihilistjnr:
Did they catch all thr shooters or not?

Today we saw mass shooting in Broad daylight and the shooters disappeared.

This is why we dey shout japa. Imagine killing 90+ people before 2pm, and nobody apprehended even one of you.

Larride stop am abeg.

Always dropping party man talk.

larride:
Japa will never be a solution for a country with a population of 200m people. Anyone that has the means and resources to japa if they want but what’s the % of people in the country that can JAPA. It’s insensitive and you guys need to stop IT.

Every time a tragedy happens, the next thing we hear is japa, japa, japa as if 5% of the population have the financial means to japa.

This week alone, the US has recorded more than 3 masa shootings. They just had 1 overnight sef. Maybe their citizens should be shouting japa japa japa also.

Which kin talk be this?

The difference between shootings in that country and Nigeria is that at least the perps always get caught. Can you bet any money that these killers are brought to book?

Not everytime play company man. Sometimes allow people vent and express their frustrations how they deem fit

Android22:
Your argument style is vacillating between 2 poles- you contextualize and then categorize at the same time.

17/18 Rockets with essentially the same core is not the same as the Rockets of 18/19 because of their regular season record (context) yet you are sure that because they led 3-2 with CP3 injured, it helped the Warriors win 4-3 (category).

My response to that is, was CP3 not playing when his team lost 2 games? I hope you see it. He could have as well lost 2 games again, no?

If you say no, what proof do you have? The only other perfect situation was next season and he lost again this time without KD but you say we should ignore it because of their regular season record. lol

Fear God oh. And stop twisting the point of the argument. Even if you're adamant that a team that won 12 fewer games than the previous season didn't regress at least have the honesty to admit that the Rockets were shorthanded when the Warriors faced them.

He could have as well lost two games but the sample size showed that the Rockets won 60% of the games CP3 played. The Warriors were yet to win back to back games to that point with CP3 on the floor. You have no evidence that they could have

Anyway you're free to believe what you want to believe. If the Warriors lose to Boston this will be their 3rd straight failure at beating a complete team without Kevin Durant. Simple and short

Android22:
I wish you can see you are making my argument for me.

If you claim Klay Thompson was there for that game 6 loss then you cannot in the same breath claim injury when a player is absent from his team's loss against GSW. That is why you can either be categorical with your argument or contextual you cannot be both at the same time.

Kawhi was there when his team led GSW by 22 points or so and then lost by 20+ without KD in that same season. Kyrie and Love played in the regular season of 2014 and GSW beat them.

If you change the context to regular season vs playoffs, I can as well show you another situation where your argument will fail. For e.g, Klay hit the winning shot against Memphis this season, and Raptors used 2 FTs to end that 114 v 110 game 6 after Steph and Iggy missed 3 PT attempts back to back before fouling the rebounder. What is to say Klay who was hot in that game does not hit it, GSW lead by 1 and Raptors lose the game? They had just lost game 5 the same way.

If you cannot say, then you cannot be categorical about Klay playing game 6 when the team lost. After all, his team was up with 1 Q to go in that same game and he was not available to impact the game when it was lost which is your argument for Kawhi, Kyrie etc. which is not the same technically if he had fouled out.

You're trying to pretend like Klay Thompson played 4 games from a possible 6. This is cap

Klay Thompson played Game 6 and missed a quarter. There's no guarantee he makes the shot in back to back games. By your logic Steph Curry who scored 21 points after the first quarter on Thursday should have finished with 60pts. MJ once scored 35pts in a half and made 6 3pters in the Finals. He finished with 39 pts!

I didn't read the majority of your long story but the crux of the argument is him getting hurt does not stop the Warriors from winning the same way him playing the 4th quarter doesn't stop the Warriors from losing. We just saw Jimmy Butler miss a whole half and the Heat still beat Boston.

Attempting to erase the 32 whole minutes Klay Thompson played is dubious.

birdman:
Fans forget, thats the name of the game. They brought in Durant to counter Lebron's united nations team, and it worked. But like they told Durant then, it wont help your legacy long term. He said he didnt mind, he just wanted the rings. It is what it is

Durant is the architect of his problem in the end. He's stood ten toes in the sand for the wrong people or and at the wrong times.

He's in a way a victim of his own hubris. Falsely believing that just skills and ability to score is the only thing he's going to need to win

Android22:
We saw him against the same Celtics. We don't miss him.

I watched this same team game 1 against the Nets and concluded they have what it takes to win it all.

But I don't get down over one loss in the same way I won't get high over one win. Steve Kerr will tell you he prefers Tatum to score 40 pts than for Horford, Smart and White to hit 15/23 3s or score 70 points.

The series reminds me of GSW vs OKC in 2016. I hope it favors GSW still.

I'm just hoping that should the Warriors lose there would be no excuses. I have no dog in this fight but the KD slander is getting out of control

We already know KD's limitations. He had to join the Warriors to win. The Warriors however now have to beat a fully healthy team in the Finals without KD. This is their 3rd attempt

We await.

Android22:
I can nitpick the same way but the larger point will be missed.

Case in point is the 2018-19 WC SFs against the Rockets with their CP3 and everybody in tact when it is 2-2. This is a replay of 2017-18 only this time KD gets hurt. Warriors then go on to beat Rockets 4-2. That is the best example of a Klay, Steph and Draymond led team still winning a team everyone claimed would have beat them without KD.

You guys are so funny. Like the 18/19 Rockets are even similar to the 17/18 iteration that had the best record in the league vs a 4th seed

The Warriors were down 3-2 to the 17/18 team before CP3 got hurt end of Game 5. I have some snake oil to sell you if you believe that is the same team at the same level as they were the previous year

Android22:
You are intentionally missing the point. Yes GSW lost 4-2 nobody is arguing that. We are telling you that GSW did not lose 4 games with Klay playing. The games Klay played GSW won 2 and lost 2 against Toronto. Klay missed game 3 and when he was playing game 6 GSW had not lost. So you don't have data to show that with Klay playing with Steph etc, GSW would have lost that series. Not saying whether it is true or not, you just don't have data for it.

They lost 3 games with Klay playing not 2. He played 32 minutes of Game 6. Had they won you would not discard that data. I don't know why you're discarding it cos they lost.

The final outcome of the game is immaterial. He played 32 minutes. It would be no different if he was in foul trouble and had his minutes limited would you say he didn't play? Game 6 Bulls vs Jazz. Scottie Pippen played 25 minutes. Would you say he didn't play?

There is no law that says a player must play all 48 minutes before we argue whether they played or not

Klay Thompson was present in 3 losses. Same way if the Warriors won we would also say Klay Thompson was present in 3 wins

birdman:
Durant is that you lol

Jaylen and Tatum have matured. They used to fall in love with that jumpshot and shoot themselves out of games. They are more patient now, they read the game and pace themselves. Tatum had a horrible shooting game, but he racked up assists. Jaylen picked his shots. Their defense was decent, but it can get better - they kept Green and Looney from getting easy buckets, but some of those Curry 3s in Q1 could have been avoided.

Looking forward to game 2! Maybe they will free bjelica, sharp shooter of life!

Hahaha. The thing just dey rub me dey wrong way ni. And I like the Warriors. Ordinarily I would never say any negative comments about them. However seeing Warriors and Curry fans joining in the KD slander is just out of pocket for me.

This is a man that came to join your team and helped you win two Championships essentially sacrificing any claim to a top 10 conversation while he did, this man put his longevity on the line rushing from a serious injury to help the Warriors win a 3peat cos they knew good and well they couldn't win without him. Took insults from haters and even teammates and this is the thanks he gets? O wrong nauu

Even if Bronsexuals dey slander KD Steph and Warriors fan no suppose join inside. They better beat Boston sha. Cos if they don't this will be their 3rd straight Finals loss.
And the ones that are trying to be clever by half talmbout KD got swept and well they got to the Finals. Duhhh. KD couldn't do it that's why he came. You're the ones that swear you could do it without KD. So do it

Why Draymond Green is taking 12 shots in an NBA Finals game in year 2022 is beyond me

Jordan Poole also looked quite shook. As it is on any night he's not giving you 15-25 points he's pretty much a liability on the floor as he can't guard nobody

budaatum:
He is no where near Schumacher in my opinion. Schumacher dragged a donkey and made it a prancing horse, while this is the first time Lewis has a donkey.

He'd be lucky if he finishes 6th, though I have faith in Mercedes fixing that car.

People forget this. They think Schumacher just jumped in a great car and was dominating. Anyway I want to see how Hamilton competes in a car that's not the fastest on the grid. We saw Alonso do this at least.

I suspect Mercedes will eventually put the car in front but for now there's no reason George Russell should be outperforming him. Unless he knows well and good this car can't compete and he's tanking (I'd hope not)

Small little factoid I stumbled upon. The Warriors are 1-8 their last 9 Finals games without Kevin Durant

0-6 in home games

I saw the 4th quarter again and I have to say. Jaylen Brown mehn. Jayson Tatum gets all the love most times but Jaylen Brown. There's a Sadio Mane-Mo Salah dynamic going on there. Where the other guy is just as good but for some reason never quite gets the accolades and adulation. We talk about Jayson Tatum as a superstar and a guy like Jaylen barely gets All star mention.

In that game again one of those one man 8-0 runs I always talk about that happen inside 1:20secs that turn potential blowouts to comebacks

birdman:
2 pages of blocked posts. Wetin happen

A40 I know sey u go get hand inside


I kid bro, i kid

Lol my days of violence are over

Una go beg Kevin Durant again las las.

Omo. This Celtics na squad mehn. Any other team would have packed it in after that 3rd quarter. The way they methodically cut into the lead those first 2 minutes of the 4th before going into that run

Oro di hmmmm. Oro pe si je oh

Android22:
Will GSW beat Cavs in 2015 without Iggy? So why will anyone laugh if we say we lost that game without him? That is the same way with Bogut playing we were 3-1 up against the Cavs in 2016. There is no special spin anyone can give to it.

That 2015-16 Rockets played GSW without Steph, 2016-17 we beat Portland without KD
2017-18 we beat Spurs first round without Curry
2018-19 we beat the Rockets/Portland without KD
2018-19 we lose to Raptors without KD and Klay

If we are going to nitpick, Cavs played all playoffs without Love and lost game 1 with Kyrie playing. Kawhi 67-15 played against OKC and got beat 4-2 in 2015-16 but somehow will beat the 73-9 warriors with KD playing. How?

If you want to say this is 3rd final without KD that is fine, but you cannot use injuries for Cavs in 2015 and then belittle the warriors injury in 2016.

Yeah you would have missed Bogut's 3 points and 3 rebounds in that series

The Rockets were the 8th seed ffs have some shame. Vs Portland KD played 2 of the 4 games. I don't know why you're bragging about beating inferior teams.

KD-Klay and Draymond can't beat Lamarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gay and Ginobili who was like 42??

Stop this without Klay nonsense vs the Raptors. He played in 5 of a possible 6 games.

Cavs beat up inferior teams when Love was hurt but when facing a team of equal quality they were shorthanded while the Warriors were complete. Those are the facts on ground for the 15 season

What does what happened the previous season have to do with the beatdown San Antonio were serving in the Oracle? The Warriors were down by 27 before Zaza took Kawhi out. You want to use the Raptors with Klay missing 1 quarter as an excuse but I can't use Kawhi missing the series?

Rockets were up 3-2 and lost their second or arguably their best player. Can't talk about Klay when CP3 lost 2 full games

No team has caught more breaks than the Warriors against evenly matched competition

Android22:
Warriors beat Cavs 4-2 in 2015, OKC 4-3 in 2016, Rockets 4-3 in 2018 etc. Klay was present for 2 of the 3 confirmed losses and at the same time the Raptors had lost 2 games with him playing. So it was 2-2 with Klay and Steph against a raptors that had homecourt in that finals which means they were a solid team. You might say Klay left the game with GSW being 2 pts up but GSW lost that game by 4 without Klay who already had 30. That is how important he was.

Same way Raptors won 4-2. For each Warriors injury I would show you more significant ones on the other team.

The Warriors had no advantage over the Raptors. Klay being there only meant at best they won Game 6 but the game was still in the balance anyway. Klay played 32 mins in that game 6. He was present for 3 losses. Not 2

Android22:
GSW were not complete the times we lost as well. Both Cavs and Raptors series we played with injuries. Everyone mentions injuries only when GSW is concerned.

Giannis played an injured Nets. Suns played an injured Lakers. Celtics played an injured Bucks and Miami. Like Skrrrrrrr said, KD made us practically unbeatable but we were good for 2 more rings had it been another max level player. Wiggins is proving it now and he is not 1/3 of the player KD is.

Nobody absolutely nobody has benefitted from injuries like Golden State. Who was injured in the Cavs series? Andrew Bogut? LOL. Abeg

2015
They beat the Cavs who were missing Love and Kyrie

2017
Beat the Spurs thanks to Zaza taking Kawhi out with the Spurs blowing out Golden State in Oakland

2018
Beat the Rockets thanks to Chris Paul getting hurt while the Warriors were down 3-2 after Game 5

Several games with key players injured in multiple title runs.

Again the Warriors issue was not getting to the Finals. They did that before Kevin Durant came. This is their 3rd attempt at winning a Finals without him. They have only succeeded once at this. So nothing like they are good for two rings. They absolutely need to win

Skrrrrrrr:
What you are saying makes no sense, in that you cannot make a team with a championship a dynasty when you have zero titles yourself. Why didn't he make OKÇ a dynasty? He had Westbrook and Ibaka.
No one literally whined about injuries, i only mentioned injuries because you mentioned it first in attempting to make the loss to the raptors about Durant. Who was injured when the warriors knocked out OKC after in the conference finals.
They won 2 games against the raptors without Durant and an unfit Thompson, they could have won 4 if Thompson was fit.
The warriors have already done it without him by winning one before him and going to the finals without him while he got swept. Whether they win Boston or not changes that not.
The argument would always fester but if the win Boston, it's over.
But that is not my bold claim. The Bold claim is that KD would never win another ring... Not with Kyrie at least.

What is this megedefegede you are talking about? KD came to a team with just one title, were coming off a losing finals appearance. Durant came and the team won 2 straight titles and it could have been 3 if Durant didn't get injured. Durant won Finals MVP 2x. Whether you like it or not no amount of KD bad belle will erase the fact that on the Warriors Kevin Durant was the best player. That is what Warriors fans will forever have to deal with.

I don't know why you keep dribbling back to OKC. We already established KD couldn't win there. However Warriors could not establish dominance and dynasty status till they got KD. That is the fact on ground

Stop repeating this Klay Thompson alternative facts. Klay Thompson played 5 games and only missed 1 quarter out of a possible 6 games. He was healthy and available to average almost 40 minutes per game
If they don't beat Boston then it will ultimately prove they would not be a dynasty without Kevin Durant

KD was in the league 9 years and didn't win anything. Predicting he wouldn't win a title after suffering an Achilles tear at over 30 is hardly a bold take

Mynd44:
A40 And donlittle25

Yall oldies na.

Lets do right please

I no follow for this matter nau. Haba

Skrrrrrrr:
Oga, in a series where they won 2 games, missing one game and getting injured in a game 6 makes a lot of difference. Especially when you are Klay Thompson.
Whether they were up by two or not is not important, bottom line, they were hot and game 6 Klay was cooking.

Klay was present in 3 of the Warriors losses. Stop pushing the narrative that he was absent for majority of the series. He missed essentially a game and a quarter.

They were hot and Klay was cooking but they were only up 2. 2 friggin points

Skrrrrrrr:
The warriors could have gotten another player and became champions.
So whether they begged KD or Not, KD could have declined, the fact that he accepted and hid it from Westbrook points to the fact that he knew he had as much chance getting a ring as I do joining the KKK. After all, he blew a 3-1 win against the warriors the season prior.
That series against Toronto ended when Klay got injured, they could have won that game and gone on to game 7 had Klay not blown his ACL. They finished off the Rockets without KD.
The warriors were good but not unstoppable without KD. But KD was basically useless without the warriors...
KD fans and KD himself should just shut up, this is the wrongest time to defend his legacy, the warriors are in the Finals with a hobbled up klay and he is playing Poker in Vegas after getting swept in the first round.
And even if the warriors lose to Boston, the fact that they got to the finals their first healthy season post Durant, is a clear message.

Why did you need to get another player? Why didn't you stick with Harrison Barnes. There were other free agents around why una no go for them. Why KD? You also wanted easy rings as much as KD did.

They flew all the way from Oakland to the Hampton's to beg him to come. That's a 5 hour flight my guy. Why will KD decline when a suitor who is willing to pay his fees shows so effort. Will you decline such a serious employer if you're Kevin Durant? Abeg die that argument

Westbrook? What the hell does this have to do with Westbrook? Their two follow come league?

The Warriors lost 2 games Klay played. You cannot definitively prove they wouldn't have lost again even if Klay didn't get hurt. They were only up by 2 but Warriors fans like to pretend like they had won the game.

Whatever KD said is immaterial. Golden State Warriors fans are the last people that should be whining about injuries. No dynasty in the history of basketball has benefited more from injuries than Golden State. Every title they won somebody crucial on the opposing side has always suffered significant injuries that made them miss multiple games.

KD has never gone out of his way to overinflate his importance. He knows he needed Golden State to win. I doubt he is dumb enough to believe otherwise. It is Warriors fans however who believe they could have done it without him. Which is technically correct but this series we are going to find out

If they fail to beat Boston then don't come and tell me they're not a franchise that owes it's dynasty status to Kevin Durant because they would have yet to beat a complete team in 3 attempts without Kevin

Skrrrrrrr:
No mind A40, he wants to put the loss down to KD. Ignoring the fact that Klay was in and out of games and was hot in Game6 before that injury effectively ended the series. They were even in the lead before that injury.

In and out of what? You have started with fake news. Klay missed 1 game which was Game 3.

He played every other game in the series. And even the Game 6 before he hot hurt they were only up by 2 the second quarter. You would think it was a blowout

etidy:
lets ignore that Klay was injured and curry finished the toronto series with a hobbled Iguodala, alphonso mckinee and jordan bell as starters

Taaa! He played 5 games from a possible 6

One would think Golden State have never benefitted from injured players before

He got hurt at the end of the 3rd. Don't pretend like he missed the entire series or something ridiculous like that. He only missed Game 3

greypencils:
He should prepare a text because the media are going to poke him on this issue. My comment is not snarky.

Whatever happened he has the right to speak or not. He's not a sitting senator he's doing what he can by using his voice. Seeing 17 kids in Elementary school getting killed is enough to evoke an emotional response out of anyone

benji93:
So wait, if GSW beats the Celtics you will concede to the argument that, GSW didn't need KD after all, at least for now?

Of course. If they beat Boston there is no argument to be had. Failure to beat Toronto however showed that the team was vulnerable without KD

Now if they fail to win even with his replacement and a younger arguably deeper team then we have to ask questions

greypencils:
Mass shooting in Oklahoma. Steve Kerr had better prepare a written speech about gun rights. No one demanded he spoke about the massacre in Uvalde, this one is in his backyard. The media will come for a prepared speech.

What is this snarky comment I don't understand. He shouldn't have spoken? Is it till someone shoots at an NBA game before you guys wake up?

Android22:
Troll him because Draymond said Steph got doubled 7 times more than KD? Is that what KD should be responding to? He is the one who made his rings small and with each reply, they get smaller.

Nobody is buying the warriors needed him and begged him story which helped his ego at the time. Steph and Draymond could have come out to deny it (because it was not true) but they let it fester because that is what good teammates do. Draymond has even subtly corrected Ernie on TNT by saying nobody called KD in any parking lot nor did anybody cry to him. If Draymond was trying to be as petty as KD, he would have done so from the beginning but he knew KD needed the narrative to justify his moving to the Bay area.

Sure, the warriors 4 flew with Bob to pitch KD. Big freaking deal, that is called great lobbying. The Celtics, San Antonio Spurs and Wizards pulled big shows to convince KD to move to their respective teams. Warriors had space for a max level player were they not going to do so?

Let us say KD opted for Boston instead. What difference would it have made? Warriors would still be able to get a max level talent and even better, we would still have been able to keep the bench - which is what we lost by getting KD.

No doubt his time with us was a huge success and we thank him for that but with Steph, Klay and Draymond as the core winning before KD and getting to a final after KD (so far), good luck arguing that adding a max level player to that team would not have touched 2 more rings at the very least.

Bottomline the Warriors begged Kevin Durant to come to Golden State. Draymond is the last one that should be taking any shots at KD. He's a bus rider that has never carried a team for any stretch of time in his NBA career

There were other free agents available. If the bench was so good then why not keep the bench and forget KD. The Warriors did not need to go for him at all and yet they did. Because they wanted a surefire ring. Can't shade KD for getting an easy ring like he wasn't recruited and courted. The Warriors sought after him. Facts

Anyway we already saw what happened to Golden State when KD went down against Toronto. Now they are condemned to beat Boston else no amount of salaye will explain away the fact that it took a Kevin Durant to cement the Warriors as a dynasty.