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Khanben:
He was finals MVP after 4 months of rest. Anybody who says the covid break did not help Lebron last year is just being disingenuous. IMHO the break is probably why he did not get injured that season.

I'm not even a LeNomad fan but this your argument is neither here nor there. As much as I don't really rate the bubble ring everyone else also had the 4 months rest and plus they were easily the best team in the West before the injury. His injuries have been freak ones, don't be dishonest. He was playing every game last season as well till the freak injury. I might not be a fan but I have to give it to him the guy is durable af

birdman:
There is a reason no exec picked Lebron: Father Time

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32051548/lebron-james-reacts-amassing-zero-votes-nba-best-player-offseason-survey

Even upcoming fantasy draft, Lebron cannot be top 5 or top 10. I fully expect him to sit out major minutes. This is year 18!! Same with Melo

Shey na execs go enter court play?? FYI they only surveyed 10 GMS, He was FMVP just last year and top 3 MVP candidate till he got hurt. While I do not consider him the GOAT and never will, I still agree that in today's league he is still unquestionably a top 5 player and the only guys you can categorically say are better right now are Giannis and KD. The rest whosaiii

SmooshCHN:
LeBron will have you believe people are calling his team of superstars washed/old. We don't buy the narrative abeg.

They are all dishonest people. How old is Tom Brady that won Superbowl this year and nobody dares bet against them this coming season. People act like we are not in an era where players can extend their primes like never before

birdman:
Just based on prime playing age alone, they are not even in the same class. This is not a honest take from a40

Nonsense. Imagine saying with a straight face that they are not in the same class. What kind of irresponsible comment is this?

Kyrie vs Westbrook
Harden vs Lebron
AD vs KD

You're telling me the Lebron y'all swore was the best player in the world last year is not in the same class with notorious playoff choker James Harden? Or that AD cannot hold his own against KD especially on defense. If you tell me Kyrie is better than WB I hear but by what margin?

Bottomline una no serious at all

Khanben:
Assinn, LeBron is going on year 19, and is at the very tail end of his prime.

Same Lebron that was MVP candidate before his injury? When will you people stop with this dishonesty? Is he still playing at a high level or not?

birdman:
So you think Lebron, AD and WB is better than Durant, Harden and Kyrie? Even with only AD in his prime vs Durant Harden and Kyrie still in their prime?

Nah. Not on offense, not on defense.

The same Westbrook that led the league in assists and triple doubles last season? Why are you Bronsexuals so dishonest like this. Westbrook is 2 months younger than KD and only 9 months older than Harden

You people are trying to paint the Lakers as some underdog. Sad

I repeat the only thing Brooklyn's big 3 have on Lakers is shooting!! Lakers have more size, more rebounding, defense and shot-blocking, rim protection. In the interior Lakers will punish Brooklyn, Which of Brooklyn's big 3 can guard AD apart from Durant who is even questionable. Can Harden guard Lebron? Can Kyrie guard Lebron?

Khanben:
Brooklyn's big 3 at this stage of their career, when healthy are the better trio. Also their fit is more organic. Lebron has only played well alongside shooters, which Westbrook is not

What stage? Shey you know KD, Westbrook, Harden are more or less within a year of each other in age, AD is significantly younger than both with LeNomad the only oldie among them

The only thing you can categorically say Brooklyn does better is shooting, any other aspect I don't buy it.

Lebron has only played well alongside shooters? So why didn't he lobby for guys like Kemba Walker, Evan Fournier, Lowry and co that were available? I don't buy that argument one jot. The likes of Melo, Nunn and Monk are role players that can shoot

Giannis, Holiday were mediocre shooters the entire postseason. Didn't stop them from winning

AndrewFarms:
What people fail to understand is that in basketball, you don't need to have a big 3 to win chips... Lakers and bucks are typical examples, the warriors are an abbiration and another big 3 warriors ain't gonna happen no more...

Haha try telling LeNomad that, everybody knew the Lakers were done the moment AD got hurt. I still think Schroeder and Drummond were enough to drag that series to a Game 7 but that's argument for another day

Overall I still think you need two stars and one borderline star or 1 supernova and two borderline stars

birdman:
Hmm, take Nets for example, I know who the big 3 is. What about Warriors? After Curry, Klay, is it Green or Wiggins or... Depends on what aspect of the game you are looking at?

I'm saying save for the much hullaballoo about the 3 ball the Lakers IMO have the best big 3. Considering their size and skillset they are the most balanced of all big 3's. Westbrook (fingers crossed) will not have enough opportunity to shoot the Lakers out of a playoff game. This is the biggest thing everyone seems to be ignoring. For him to go cap in hand to join Lebron it means he's now ready to limit his bad tendencies

Let's compare the Big 3s of each team that supposedly has a big 3 H2H and let's see who comes out tops

birdman:
So, its official. Lebron is a scrub. The Lakers are not a super team.

Saw your Queen crying about it on Twitter too. Such a diva

R.I.P to the G.O.A.T. Gerd Mueller. Arguably the most important player to wear the jersey. Hope the team use him as inspiration to another treble

Suprised we escaped with a point at Gladbach, I had chalked that game up as another loss since we never seem to win there except one fluky year we thrashed em

sleekdot:
That guy dey fall hand seriously. He is costing us on and off the field

Not enough words to suggest how much of a disappointment he's been thus far, and thanks to him our wage bill is going to go all the wayyyy up. How do you tell a Coman who has won us a Champions League to take a Euro less than Sane who's done zilch

ritchboy:
Sup man! Ah yes I I won a matchday ball and a copy of FIFA 12 for my placement.

Damn I can barely recognize any name here now haha. Are Mukina, Debosky, Jackal/Coogar/Nihilist, Dayokanu, A40, Nateevs etc still active here?

You still dey? This your hiatus mad oh. Na the kin hiatus I wan go on be this. Welcome

Shittaakeem:
Victor Oladipo rejected a 4 year $113m with the Indiana Pacers
He got a second chance with the Houston rocket 2 year $45m extension he rejected it.

Omo which kind prayer point person need for this kind issue.
Any suggestions

This is even worse than Schroeder's case. Cause the Heat gave him veteran minimum. Suprised this flew under the radar, what was he thinking? He thought he was a max player? Which kin delusion of grandeur be that one and where does he think he will ever get that kind of offer again. He played college in Naptown. It's more or less his city. That was $28m a year? How do you pass on $28m?? Houston threw him another bone and he refused.

Fun irony. On his draft year their poll projected him as the one to have the best career alongside wait for it.... Kelly Olynyk in their defense it was quite a horrible draft with the undisputed worst #1 pick in league history

Roland17:
See dem.. instead make dem dey thank the Celtics for taking a chance on him as the guy become unemployed..
Na so una do with Isaiah Thomas, come find way change the narrative. Isaiah Thomas no get team oh! Warriors/ Houston make una sign the guy! No be only Celtics go dey save people career..

Lol una no try for that guy at all. Iro o da. Na him head dey pursue una so. See how Miami is treating Udonis (can't believe they gave that nigga another extension ) on how to look after your guys

I will be watching Sane with side eye this season.

SmooshCHN:
I don't get how they lie and successfully convince themselves sha.

So they can inflate the feat if they are successful. Happened with the 16 Warriors. Nobody asks why they were 3-1 down for starters

FirstbornWds:
Despite all of these happenings, I know Laporta did well. Some one, or people had to be sacrificed and it's sad it had to be Messi. But all in all, it was bound to happen. Bartomeu and that other guy ( don't want to mention his name cos a Spanish friend bears the same thing) killed Barcelona, right before all of these happened.
All in all, let's see what the transition brings.

Time for guys like Griezman, De Jong to earn their keep.

BlueAngel444:
OMG this guy is an emotional manipulator, my my


Laporte prevented Messi from literally owning the fvcking club. Imagine owning Messi so much money, Messi should have rejected huge salary and become worshipped by the fans na.

All this Hollywood tears. Like a Wife crying because she divorced her broke husband

Smart Barca fans owe Laporta a debt of gratitude. He exposed the rot that went on while Bartomeu kept papering the cracks. Foolish man should have allowed Messi go last season, recouped some money and gotten his ungodly wages off their book but na lie. Messi was on 70m euros a year. Griezmann 45m. It was a bubble that was bound to burst

FirstbornWds:
Smiles. I wouldn't know cos Messi never played there. But then, none of those you mentioned are in Messi's class. Ronaldo is just the closest but Perez knew he was just there as a prolific goalscorer, compared to Leo that has played every attacking position (Cf, SF, FS, and AM) in the team and not allowing it to sink worse than it already was.

None of all these things you mentioned consign Florentino Perez sha. Nobody will get special treatment from him or Madrid, not even Messi.

FirstbornWds:
Ronaldo was just another player that Madrid saw as disposable. He was just there to complete the first 11, same way as Modric, Vinicus, Hazard and the likes now. Nothing special. Why won't he be sold at the right price? He's just another Grealish for Aston Villa, another Lukaku for Inter Milan, another Neymar for Barcelona... He was NOTHING compared to Messi. He just can wish, plus the backingz of peeps like you, he thinks he's close.

All hype but nothing special. Anybody would easily discard a team player compared to someone that has a family in his team. Not to talk about how much Laliga was ever trying to strike a bargain to keep him.

There is a level to greatness in football and Messi is the standard.

Lmao that speaks more to how Madrid is run than Ronaldo. Messi will get the same discarding treatment in Madrid colors. Don't kid yourself. They were not loyal to homegrown Raul who won them 3 CLs you think they will care for Messi?

France really could have won that game if they made their Free throws

Patty Mills dropped a 40 piece for Australia. Hope he brings this game to Brooklyn sha

Mes que un club but una elevate player above club. Lol smh

Roland17:
Son of man, PRRRRREEEEEEEAAAAACCCCCHHHHH!

The hypocrisy is always on brand

SmooshCHN:
Westbrook, AD and Lebron are not a team of superstars? No wahala. That one no weak me. It's LeBron acting like people already the expect worse from the Lakers because they became magically old, past their prime and then asking people to keep the energy narrative that weaks me. Alaye, it's your LeMinions saying your squad is not a superteam o. Saying you guys are old and aren't that good. You're not the underdog. Literally no one is even thinking that but the usual Lebron fashion, play the victim and then act like the underdog.

That Lakers team is top tier. I'm not buying the BS narrative. Barring injuries, anything lower than 2nd seed or Conference finals is a failure IMO.

It's par for the course. They told us Bosh, Wade was not a Superteam, they told us Kyrie and Love did not constitute a Superteam. Everyone wins with help except him and when he loses it's because he had no help

How you the GOAT and always trying to play underdog even with loaded teams

Android17:
Any team with Lebron, Westbrook and AD is a super team. A super team is essentially a core of 3 super star players and that is what that Los Angeles team is.

No nau they want a team with LeBron, Westbrook and AD to add the top 3 sixth men of the year candidates before they recognize them as a superteam. Mind you the last two assist leaders are inside that Big 3. This top 3 are averaging more than 20 pts per game but they are not a superteam because the role players are not all star candidates. Like I said I've seen Bronsexuals downplay Wade and Bosh and swear the Heatles were not a superteam so the fuckery no fit surprise me

Even the ones dissing Kyrie and asking what he's done outside Lebron swear now that the Nets are a Superteam

birdman:
Thats all you bro. I never ever use the term. You use it so much tho. Just saying

Typical Bronsexual logic. You have to be a thief to call someone a thief? Sha leave me out of your homoerotic fantasies. It's just a term for obnoxious LeNomad fans anyway, the sexx part is all in your head

birdman:
I dont know who these bronsexuals are, but boy, you LOVE typing their name. Yall should get a room. At parktonian or something

You can own your identity and still leave me out of your homoerotic fantasies

Khanben:
I apologize for mixing the years, but how did a guy who averaged 14pts a game win finals MVP If his defense did nothing?
You just mentioned Draymond and Rondo as part of other Superteams core. So my question of all of the players the had or even have now which one of them is as good as Draymond or Rondo was during their championship runs?
I repeat my stance again, which was were we had diverging opinions, if Gasol, Ariza, Bazemore and Howard are your 4th-7th man, you cannot in good conscience call that a Superteam. No matter how panel beat it that is a fact.

He actually averaged 17 pts per game on 61% shooting barely taking 10 shots per game that's how

If you are your team's primary facilitator then you are part of its core. Why are you struggling with such a simple concept. Which means you have no business calling them role players because they were not role players

Any team with Westbrook, AD and Lebron is a Superteam. You can argue till you're blue in the face, that is not my concern. Bronsexual dishonesty didn't start today. There are people who didn't believe the Miami Heatles were a Superteam so what else is new

Khanben:
PS: Kawhi players profile reads
"...Known early in his career primarily as an elite defender and floor spacer, Leonard began taking on a larger offensive responsibility from the..."
And he was 2nd team all defense in that championship year.

He didn't sniff the award his first two years so don't tell me he was a top 5 wing defender without any proof

birdman:
Kendrick Nunn and Wayne Ellington are the only impact pieces I see here. The rest are 36 year old journeymen, 1year rentals atbest, even Melo and Ariza. Anyone trying to say this is a stacked team is dishonest, and just wants to take shots at Lebron. Same cats have nothing to say about Nets or warriors.

When I say Bronsexualism and dishonesty is 5 and 6 it's not an exaggeration. Imagine arguing that a team with Lebron, Westbrook and AD is not a superteam, only Bronsexuals will shamelessly propagate such claims. Only Bronsexuals will boldly claim a team with 5 First Ballot HOFers is not a Superteam

No one disputed Brooklyn and Warriors to be a Superteam so I don't know what part of you this lie is coming from. So a Carmelo that was averaging 13 pts per game off the bench and shot 40 from 3 is who you people are trying to portray like some bum because of his age. Even Malik Monk who was doing 11ppg and 40% from 3. You people have no scruples

Khanben:
Una don start to dey change goal post. This discussion is about the talent surrounding a big 3. Draymond for all is ability was not part of the warriors big3. Same with Rondo for the 2010 Celtics. That is why I repeated said that what the Lakers signed were players who were only capable of being contributors if they were used as the 8th man or above. But you kept insisting that these guys only will be the ones to catapult them.into Superteam status. I don't care how great your 3 best players are if this is basketball not tennis, if the drop-off in talent with what they had on Monday was way too much.
As for them taking all the shots, the Bucks just had a series where their own big 3 took all the shots, but you know what in game 6 of the finals they still needed a Bobby to make shots just to keep them in the game.

Is this guy serious at all?? Draymond Green is part of the Warriors core. He was the primary facilitator and their best defender pre KD and it can be argued after KD. He was in no way a role player

2010 Rondo was definitely not a role player so I have to ask when you started watching basketball. The argument is that the Lakers big 3 is so Supernova you don't necessarily need elite role players to be labeled a Superteam. If you have 3 All NBA level players and you're still expecting 6th men of the year candidates then you clearly don't want to compete

Lmaoo this man mentioned Bobby Portis. When I say you're dishonest don't take it personal, its an informed observation. Going into the playoffs lie that you expected Bobby Portis to be a key role player for the Bucks let me see. This was someone that averaged 14mins and 3ppg in the Brooklyn series then improved vs Atlanta and had a couple of good games in the Finals. Don't pretend like Bobby Portis was some elite level 6th man

Khanben:
I still think you are more into stats rather than just watching basketball to be honest, if you can name 5 more wing defenders better that kawhi in 2012 please do so. Show me a metric that says Tybulle is a top 5 wing defender now, but any one with eyes who watches him knows he is one.
Kawhi basically won his finals MVP based solely on guarding Lebron 1v1 in the finals, if that is not enough proof of his defensive capabilities I don't know what else I can say.

You're just yarning dust at this point. So you know more than the people who make a living following basketball that didn't deem it fit to vote Kawhi among even the top 20 defenders both in 2012 and 2013

FYI Matisse Thybulle was All Defense 2nd team this year. Further proof that you don't know what the fuq you're talking about

That was in 2014 Mr Opaks yarner. And Kawhi's 'defense' was debatable. LeNomad still averaged 28 pts on 57% shooting. Granted LeNomad did some statpadding as his buckets mostly came when the Heat were down 15 points or more but don't come here and overhype his defense on LeNomad