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KarnBarlow:
Coming from the gullible lot who believe in the "flu game" LMAO!


ESPN put up fake pictures, everyone who admitted to him having an MRI, the team mates. They're all in on it, they're lying. The reporters, Coach lue. The injury is fake. These people.

Story for the gods. The gods oh

SmooshCHN:
You don't say. My problem is why he felt the need to have pulled that move after that kind of performance. The warriors were just the better team in that series. What are you protecting? No team will clear you for basketball activity if you have a fracture but his fans will tell you he averaged triple double with a broken hand. Anyone with sense will know it's the normal stunt. But some airheads will tell you someone who needs two surgeries is faking an injury.

As for Kawhi, I don't even know. Dude just likes his privacy and I respect it. The team said it's that left knee but it's not too serious. I think the Clippers are just playing it safe. I'm even surprised the Lakers are not doing the same with Anthony David's shoulder.

Bronsexuals said it's a fracture but Baba said he broke his hand. I'm no expert but you're the resident Dr here. Kindly explain the difference to us civilians

Anybody that believes LeNomad did not fake that injury needs a pacifier in their mouth.

I'm legit worried about Kawhi and I feel the injury is what he might need to manage pretty much for the rest of his career. If you recall in the playoffs there were times this man was literally hobbling

Why do I feel like Kawhi might be dealing with some debilitating injury of some kind?

SmooshCHN:
Someone will just sit on his couch in Zamfara and say Curry who we all saw fell and landed on his hand, still has to get a second surgery on his broken hand, is faking an injury. Same set of people will argue and tell you LeBron who was throwing self alley oops in the finals legit broke his hand in the locker room (Unfortunately, no one saw it). Dude was dunking, making highlight passes with a broken hand. Did we get any update on that hand after the finals? I don't think so.
Klay Thompson probably faked a torn ACL too. He couldn't take another finals loss. Nonsense

Was actually caught doing push-ups with that hand

SmooshCHN:
Harrison Barnes is just a certified waste man.

Lol some things will never change

Bittersweet. He stayed on for a little longer than was ideal.

Still arguably the greatest ever servant of Bayern Munich and definitely the man that brought Bayern to the modern age and for this all Bayern fans would and should forever be grateful

KarnBarlow:
Credit where credits due, the man is a baller. But AD? He has some way to go. This is every other sunday for AD. And when starts to do this consistently, we'll like to see some potential defensively as well. Then you can start to talk AD.

I'm saying with an expanded role he would put up AD numbers. It's that simple. Did you know he's making 2 3pters per game? This already tells me he's more adept at shooting the 3 than AD

Whether he can get to AD level will be down to consistency but the potential is there

Are you really questioning Siakam's defensive chops? Did you miss your game vs the Raptors?

Lool looks like the Hassan Whiteside effect is a real thing

Spicy P with 36 pts on 53% FG. Don't set no limits on this man. Siakam is the truth

KarnBarlow:
No, you said danny green was outplaying him through 3 games. He literally killed this series with a mid ranger. Why could he seize the initiative in this series but not the year before, you think he didnt want to win as bad the year before? the difference is he learned and improved based on what happened the year before.

This is also true but again you miss the point.

I'm telling you that the leap was minimal to non existent. He had won a title the previous year and so could handle adversity better. Most of what ailed LeNomad in the previous year was MENTAL

KarnBarlow:
LOL Literally everyone who watched that series knew that loss was on giannis. Stop with the revisionism.

Because he is the reigning MVP not because he choked as woefully as LeNomad did

KarnBarlow:
Just like you're making excuses for Giannis yes? This actually doesnt even have anything to do with lebron, but of course with you just have to bring lebron into this because you're obsessed with him.

Then stop making excuses for Giannis.

You're yarning tales by moonlight. LeNomad on one leg should not average 17pts in a playoffs series getting outplayed by Jason Terry and guarded by Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion. The rest is story

KarnBarlow:
Maybe you should heed your own advice, Kobe was more seasoned and most importantly he could shoot. He still got swept off the back of a championship. Players who cant shoot or are one dimensional are easier to prepare for in the playoffs. That Dallas team didnt play a game 7 and lost only 5 throughout the playoffs.

You're really relentless with the excuses. Kobe was on a steady decline at that point, and yet he did not play as badly as LeNomad.

It's not about shooting. LeNomad did not become multidimensional within one year. The numbers literally don't support that.

LeNomad went from 27 points to 17pts. No amount of bad shooting can make a player produce such poor numbers, even Giannis was not as bad

KarnBarlow:
He had KD westbrook and ibaka on his payroll. They knew harden could be good, but then he could've regressed. Was it worth screwing up the cap of a young and talented team at the time? Harden was sixth man averaging 17 at 22 on a team with kd and russ. The man went and immediately became the face of a playoff team in the west and you're telling me him becoming an MVP caliber player is outrageous? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

What other way to invest than keeping a team with its best players <25 years together that have already being to multiple WCFs and a Final.

Yet no team thought to break the bank and make a Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford the face of their franchise. As if playing with the likes of KD and Brodie does not make life easier for a guy like Harden. Don't come here and try to paint an exception to be the norm. Nobody saw Harden coming

KarnBarlow:
None of them a similar case to siakam.

What is the difference between Kawhi's case and that of Siakam? Neither player was a lottery pick I could go on and on

KarnBarlow:
Ahh yes, 13-14, Literally ADs second year in the league where his second best player got injured 22 games in? And then his 3rd best player get injured 33 games in? Whaaat? Just no The other years you mentioned were either injury plagued or the roster sucked so bad. When AD had good teams, he played to standard. Simple! Consistent all star, all nba and all defensive player. What more can he do to propel his team?

More excuses. Did they miss the entire season?

15/16 season. Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Jrue Holiday played more than half the games. The roster was not bad enough to only muster +40 win seasons twice

He gathered numbers but did he win? No

KarnBarlow:
Right, because the spurs vs the heats has turned into Lebron vs danny green. If you're playing better than your role then you've outplayed your role (Ersan, 2019). And even then the simple fact is green was still not outplaying lebron. Besides, like you said, Bron still cooked them in the end. Don't know why you are talking about the first 3 games.

Stop being so sensitive. I'm showing you with the Danny Green and LeNomad analogy the degree to which you're overrating the so-called improvement to his game. Up until Game 4 he was being outplayed/outscored by Danny Green. Credit to him for seizing initiative but aside Game 7 where he was 5-10 from 3, his long range shooting was still largely pedestrian. He averaged 29% from 3 the entire playoffs

KarnBarlow:
Was Giannis playing with D Wade? I'm not saying giannis choked because just like lebron he has more to add to his game and when he does that and gets neutralized then i can say he choked. But just be consistent!

Doesn't matter who he was playing with. Replace D.Wade with anyone else. Because no one is comparing abilities, In this context they are both support cast and the support cast can play well enough for you to point fingers at the star man for choking. Nobody watched that series and said Giannis support cast delivered and he was the one that let the team down

This was LeNomad's 8th year in the league and 6th appearance in the playoffs. Giannis was just playing his 5th playoff series. Let that sink in and stop making excuses for LeNomad. Nobody accused him of choking in 2007 when his numbers were even more rubbish than Giannis's.

KarnBarlow:
He never said it was broken, it was a fracture. And everyone saw the swollen hand which he still played with BTW. Steph on the other hand...

BTW, You taking the steph thing seriously, i love it!

Anyway you chose to spell excuses it's still excuses

KarnBarlow:
Ohh the same kobe than won the championship the year before and averaged 25 that year after playing in every single game? Even you have to admit how your flip flopping and twisting of narratives is.

Yes Kobe at 33 averaged 25pts per game then averaged 23 pts in the series.

LeNomad supposedly the best player in the world at 27 went from 27pts per game to 17pts per game. Stop comparing apples to oranges

steady986:
The lad only considers points in a game of basketball

Have you ever seen or watched a basketball game where the team with the fewer points won?

KarnBarlow:
Right, Green doesnt get rebounds assists steals and blocks because hes not a stat padder. Dude, what are we doing here?

Relative to their roles Danny Green was severely outplaying LeNomad and that was why they were 2-1 down, had LeNomad not recovered and Danny Green reverted to mean then all your rebounds, assists and blocks banter would be okoto meoww meoww kutukutu skrrrrrrrr skrr

KarnBarlow:
Dead what argument? was he not neutralized in a series because hes a one edged sword? What has changed?

But we have seen multiple edged swords get neutralized in a series as well?? Was Giannis outplayed by any of his teammates? When Steph was neutralized was it because he was a one edged sword?

KarnBarlow:
Please, LeBron broke his hand like a real man, punching a wall. No one would've blamed him for losing, everyone saw the sweep a mile out. Almost singlehandedly won game 1, and then JR happened. I'm surprised he broke it on a wall not on his face like a certain gambler would have.

Lol punching a wall? Were you there to witness this? So a 260 pound man falling on your hand is a fake man's way to break his hand? Are you hearing yourself at all? Only a fake tough guy will 'break his arm' trying to punch an inanimate object. If you truly believe LeNomad's hand was broken then I have a bridge in Monaco to sell to you

Speaks to his insecurity that he had to reveal his 'injury' in a series no one expected him to win

KarnBarlow:
And who are the stars they faced in the post season? good shooters who still struggled against them. They held kobe, the defending champion who shoots for fun to 23 and swept him dude. In the elimination game he scored 17 and shot below 40% from the field.

Stop making excuses for your LeNomad. Kobe was 33 years old and on his way to decline, LeNomad was at his physical peak and averaged 27pts the previous two series combined but folded to a less talented and significantly older roster. And unlike Kobe he was arguably not even the 2nd best player in his team

KarnBarlow:
Maybe so, but that came primarily because of improvements in his game as well.

This is comme ci comme ça

KarnBarlow:
More like they couldn't afford him knowing they had other players on that roster they had to pay.

Who are these other players? You think if Sam Presti knew the future he would let Harden walk and not enter luxury tax if need be?

KarnBarlow:
Sure, maybe no one saw that at that point, but for anyone to say its not plausible is also not accurate, We've seen 3rd picks do better. In fact, the third greatest player of all time is a 3rd pick.

And I have given you 3-4 other players who didn't enter the league with the fanfare of a high draft pick and still delivered at MVP level

KarnBarlow:
Thats what i've been saying. The team wasnt good enough. MJ has had his fair share of 40 and sub 40 seasons as well. And if you think AD should've done more then tell me which season and with which roster, its that simple.

Their 13-14 roster was good enough to get to 40 wins. Even their 15-16 roster and especially 16/17 roster as well. If they were even a .500 team while he played then they would have had to lose every game he didn't play just to not scratch 40

KarnBarlow:
Assists, rebounds Steals Blocks. What the hell are those right?

That's for you stats nerds to chew on. Not everyone is a stat padder like LeNomad who will get his stats win lose or draw

KarnBarlow:
No one is asking him to turn into steph or klay, just develop a respectable jump shot. He hasn't done that or even shown signs that its going to happen. What we are saying is until he does...

Last season was the first time he swam the deep waters of the playoffs. He averaged 33% from 3 in that Raptors series btw and shot 45% from the field. Better shooters have shot for worse. Dead this argument

KarnBarlow:
At least he played through the rest of the games and took his beating like a real man before revealing his injury. This one just feigned an injury and bolted LMAO!

Let's get a 6'10 260 pound man land awkwardly on your hands and see if it would break or remain the same. At least we actually saw what broke Steph's hands. Unlike your excuse merchant who had prepared customized excuses for his play after getting swept

KarnBarlow:
Choose not to defer and do what? Chuck up shots and still lose? Hes never been afraid of deferring for the good of the team. He did the only thing he could, like you said his poor play. But its not about choking, its about him just not being good enough to play better than that. Its a lesson, he learned, he improved, he came back and he dominated.

LeNomad was the only established star the Mavs held under 20 the entire postseason. You're telling me the acclaimed best player in the world at the time did not have a game good enough to score 20pts per game on Dallas? That's a lie I can never buy. He choked and he will be the first to tell you that.

What you call improvement was merely a change in mentality and awareness of the fact that he is good enough to be unstoppable regardless of the deficiencies in his game

KarnBarlow:
OKC thought so little of him that they still offered him, a bench player a 4 year extension worth over 50m. He was so bereft of favor that another team still traded for him after that and made him their franchise player. Right! By your explanation no one predicts someone to become an MVP caliber player until he actually becomes one, but to suggest that a no.3 pick especially one like Harden who's shown some promise becoming an MVP candidate is out of pocket? LOL!

He was their 3rd best player and better than your typical bench player. If they saw MVP potential they would not balk on paying him a few more millions even if it meant them entering luxury tax. They lowballed him then gave him a laughably short time to take it or leave it

Anybody claiming they saw James Harden finishing top 2 in MVP voting 4 of the last 5 seasons when he was leaving OKC is lying through their teeth

KarnBarlow:
First of all this isn't the farmers league your "goat" played in. i have never denied ADs injury issues so i dont know what you're talking about. But lets just stop beating around the bush and you should tell me just one season AD should've made the playoffs in the west but didnt. Its simple. Just tell me one playoff team the pelicans could've displaced that year.

Lmaoo the audacity! You mean this soft ass league where fouls get called for having bad breath? Anyways no point arguing. The actual players who played both eras have testified to the softness of today's league which we also see with the nightly injury reports but go awfffffffffff

That is neither here nor there. AD is supposed to be a transcendent talent kwa? So why couldn't he win more games at New Orleans. In 7 seasons he only led New Orleans to more than 40 wins twice!!! Never mind playoffs. We've seen 48 win teams not make playoffs but to not get to even 40 wins?? Lol

KarnBarlow:
Game 1
LeBron 18 16 10
Green 12 1 1

Game 2
LeBron 17 8 7 3 3
Green 17 1 1

Game 3
LeBron 15 11 5 2
Green 27 4 2 2

Outplaying LeBron? I dont even know why i'm entertaining this.

Danny Green was scoring 18ppg from 10 shots and 19/30 from the field

LeNomad was 20/54 which works out at 16ppg from 18 shots but go awfffffffffff

KarnBarlow:
That doesnt change the fact the he still can't shoot and thats the focus of the issue here.

The likes of Steph and Klay could but it didn't stop them from losing. Of course there is always need to work on your weaknesses but it is not the quantum leap you lot are suggesting

KarnBarlow:
You mean the Steph Curry who is currently faking an injury to avoid the as- whooping the league wants to hand to him?

LOL On a serious note, whats good for the goose. I think i was the first person to say now steph knows how lebron feels to show up with an inferior team and get blamed for losing.

That would be your LeNomad who faked an injury wearing an arm cast and revealed it after getting swept, I'm sure it rings a bell

KarnBarlow:
Dallas' game plan was to make bron defer and he did and his numbers suffered because of that. His game wasn't good enough to not defer at that point. Dallas attempted you say, but they didnt do just that, they succeeded.

You can choose to not defer. I can't believe you're excusing LeNomad getting shut down by players past their athletic prime. Their strategy was sound, it still took LeNomad's poor play for it to work

KarnBarlow:
Monday morning quarterback? LOL How?
Harden would have left for nothing if they didnt trade him and they still got Lamb and two picks for him. Daryl Morey certainly knew what he got when he gave him the keys to the franchise. I mean seriously who couldn't have seen harden at least showing some improvement away from westbrook and Durant and then you throw D'antoni in there?

Of course. This is easy to type in the year of our Lord 2019. Just show us one person that predicted James Harden to be a top 5-10 player in the league within 3 years of joining the league before D'Antoni came on board. Playing Monday Morning Quarterback is very easy

KarnBarlow:
You just made my point, Hill Penny etc were 3rd picks. Just disproving this notion that Harden came out of nowhere ala Siakam and became an MVP candidate.

I'm not making your point. Kawhi, Giannis, Steph, Steve Nash came from nowhere and became MVP candidates. Nobody predicted Harden to be an MVP candidate. He was largely blamed for OKC's collapse vs the Heat and was deemed the weak link for that OKC team and expendable

KarnBarlow:
Oh so now the rest of the team matters? LMAO At least we are getting somewhere. The way you were blaming AD i would have sworn you meant a player has to carry a team on his own. So how about this, check the yearly projections, one season where the analysts projected the pelicans would make the playoffs but they failed to. Just one, its not that hard.

Stop trying to be dubious. I'm rubbishing the notion that AD was bereft of help. You would be better served highlighting his injury prone nature (which I recall telling you and you were arguing and doing strong head) but to suggest he played with the kind of bums MJ played with is laughable..

The year MJ averaged 37pts the second best player on his team averaged 14pts per game. Come and show me 1 season AD averaged more than 28pts per game and did not have a teammate averaging 15 or more

steady986:
It's actually 8.9 points, don't blow things out of proportion.

The outstanding is less than a basket. Roughly approximated it to 10points. Don't play Captain Pedantic

KarnBarlow:
Now Danny Green was outplaying LeBron. Man, I dont even know what to do with you. I can't keep arguing with someone who can't be objective just for the sake of it. There no point. Oh and way did use a 3 game sample to fit your narrative in a 7 game series.

I presented the timeline to which Danny Green was outplaying LeNomad. The least you can do is counter it and stop being dramatic. Didn't Danny Green play better than LeNomad between Games 1-3?

KarnBarlow:
You are making my point, its ridiculous to assume someone has improved until he shows you that he has. Until he does, he will be judged based on the previous assessment of him. Lebron is a bad FT shooter, but your man is airballing FTs man.

Guys the size of Giannis shooting FTs at a high clip are an exception not a norm. Everybody will not be a KD or Dirk

KarnBarlow:
Its not about sensitivity, its about your double standards. If a team executes the perfect plan and takes away a players main strengths why wont he average fewer points than hes accustomed to? Is this the first time we've seen a team plan to take a player out of a game and succeeded? You literally claimed thats what Toronto did with Giannis. Dallas priority was to take lebron out of the game and allow the others to do their thing, LeBron obliged cause he really didn't have a choice. But yeah take the lazy option, he choked.

You have the gall to lecture me on double standards? What a time to be alive!

I didn't see you display this energy when the Raptors were box and oneing Steph and guarding him from half court. You called him a notorious choker and bombed the thread ad nauseum. Suddenly you have remembered context and nuances

There is a difference between a slight drop off in production and flopping so badly you became the 3rd best scorer on your team.

Dallas attempted and did their part to take out LeNomad but LeNomad largely choked and did not play to the best of his abilities. Both are true

steady986:
What you're saying essentially is if Harden goes from 37ppg in the regular season to 27ppg in the playoffs, he choked.

I would think by now this would be a no-brainer. Don't you lot troll Steph Curry?

Your bff calls him a choker. Have you wondered why??

steady986:
He can at least improve to AD's level of shooting. How about that?

What did AD achieve with his own level of shooting? If it was that good he wouldn't run to LA to be LeNomad's apprentice

KarnBarlow:
James harden was a no. 3 pick, SOTY winner and was 23 years old. Theres nothing outrageous about saying with more time and consistency he could become an MVP caliber player. Maybe far fetched. but not outrageous.

And yet OKC traded him for a bag of peanuts. Don't play Monday Morning Quarterback here. Nobody anticipated Harden or Giannis to get to this level when they started out.

The same #3 pick that gives you the GOAT, Grant Hill, Harden and Penny Hardaway can also give you Otto Porter, Jahlil Okafor and Derrick Favors. This thing is not an exact science

KarnBarlow:
Just one season where he was healthy and you felt he should've won over 40 but didnt. Just one.

Your hegoat led his team to 40 wins averaging 37 points. He obviously under performed.

Story for the gods. The second and third best players on the GOAT's squad averaged 25pts combined.

AD had 4-5 teammates in double figures every other season while AD never topped 28pts per game but go awfffffffffff

KarnBarlow:
LOL So the Mavericks didnt try anything to stop lebron. He just decided to stand there and do nothing, even if dallas didnt do anything he would've just stood there and choked. Wasnt giannis averages below his regular season and playoff averages until then? But with Giannis its team planning and with lebron he choked.


Yeah right.

But they faced him the very next season. On opening night! Why didn't they stop him??

Nobody said the Mavs didn't try to stop him, don't be ridiculous. We are saying he also inhibited himself with his play and his mentality. Nobody has accused Giannis of choking but the world is unanimous about LeNomad's chokejob

Giannis dropped from 27pts to 22pts

LeNomad dropped from 26.7pts to 17.8pts

You mean the Mavericks defense was so good a two time MVP surrounded with two all-stars and a deep bench held Bron to 10pts below his average all by themselves?

KarnBarlow:
You should bring up the numbers for his post up play as well, and thats the major thing he worked on with Hakeem. What served him best the next playoff run. Numbers lie all the time. The improvement in his jump shooting and post up play was blatant. In fact that was the first thing most people noticed.

The improvement was minimal. LeNomad has never been an elite shooter outside 3ft and the stats I posted encompass both post and perimeter play.

Don't overhype this thing.

3ft to 10ft shooting

2010/2011 - 45%
2011/2012 - 46%
2012/2013 - 45%

3pt shooting in the playoffs
2010/2011 - 35%
2011/2012 - 25%
2012/2013 - 37%

Where was this new improved post up play when he was being outplayed by goddamn Danny Green Games 1-3 of the 2013 Finals?

KarnBarlow:
I'm not concluding if a player is known to be something and hasnt done anything to change that notion how is your conclusion premature? Until he does, theres nothing to suggest improvement.

We're only 9 games in. Why not wait till 20 at least, plus he's still averaging almost 30 a game so it's not like he is being stopped

Last year was Giannis's first significant playoff run. He is taking his lumps

KarnBarlow:
One is a bad matchup the other is a choke job? Naah, truth is a player without shooting will always get exposed in the playoffs especially in recent times. We've seen this far too often, when was the last time a player without respectable shooting led a team to a championship? The last time in recent memory was probably shaq and shaq was a freak of nature. Plus the game has changed significantly since then.

Yes it was a chokejob. LeNomad will not be the first sporting great to choke. I don't know why you lot are being sensitive about this.

How can a player drop 10 whole points from his average in a series and you're telling me it was not a chokejob. Are you hearing yourself at all?

Giannis lack of shooting was a problem but not the only problem. He was not Ben Simmons level bad. And unless you expect him to be Steph Curry then I don't know how much improvement you expect him to make

donlittle25:
Wo, me I am just reading and laughing. O ti su mi. Physical prime, basketball prime

Optimus prime

KarnBarlow:
Just keep the same consistency. Giannis choked against the raptors.

There is a difference between trying and failing due to the other team's efforts to stop you and there is choking because you didn't even try.

LeNomad averaged almost 10pts below his regular season numbers and his numbers in the previous round. That is choking

steady986:
You said "physical prime" o, not basketball prime

Plus physical plus basketball. They are intertwined. LeNomad was in his 8th year in the league with two MVPs and a Finals appearance previously so you cannot say he was not in his prime whether physical or basketball. Stop this your unnecessary argument it's tedious

SmooshCHN:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B4y6PpphJNk/?igshid=pue19ghzd975

For those who doubt. This kid is special and this is just his second year.

Saying Trae can be better than Curry or Giannis/Siakam than Anthony Davis doesn't imply that they are currently better. I didn't read where anyone said Siakam is currently a better player than AD. It's normal to believe they can be better if they keep getting better with how well they are playing now and such takes shouldn't be an off topic either. It's sports. We've seen 1st round picks turn busts and second round picks become household names.

That's what makes Sports fun. You can project and look like a visionary and also like a complete idiot over time. We are merely going off what we have seen many times before

When Steph started I'm sure people were up in arms when some said he could be better than Ray Allen but here we are.

I don't know why people are being so sensitive. On the flip side it's good to see how we MJ fans feel when Bronsexuals compare him to the GOAT

KarnBarlow:
Doesn't make your claims any less outrageous.

Of course it was always outrageous to suggest James Harden would be perennial MVP candidate when he was leaving OKC but here we are

KarnBarlow:
Okay, just one year where AD was healthy and you felt he had enough for the playoffs in the west but didn't make it. One year.

He had enough to at least win more than 40 games twice. That's the bare minimum

KarnBarlow:
This is what i typed. Dont know where you got all that from.

He won 48 in the west in 75 games after losing his deuteragonist averaging 28 and if I'm not mistaken was 3rd in MVP voting and DPOY voting. Don't know what more you want from him.

For all the praise and his special talents he's only finished top 5 in MVP voting twice. And those were the years he was able to lead the team past 40 something wins

steady986:
Looooooollllllll

Players better than AD have been clamped so let's hear word

steady986:
Who even told you that was LeBron's physical prime? Smh

When was LeNomad's physical prime? Just because you choke away a series does not mean you're not in your physical prime. He was almost 27 years

Against the Bulls and the Celtics that same postseason he averaged 26 and 28ppg respectively. 27pts for regular season.

He simply choked in the Finals!! Don't tell me any megedefegede about a two time MVP approaching 27 not in his prime

steady986:
You're funny o. AD underperformed at NO but still managed to make all NBA first team 3 times. You've forgotten that basketball is a team sport. How many players in the NBA have made all NBA first team while leading their team to under 40 wins? Very few.

You can win MVP and still underperform at critical junctures. Basketball considers your all-round team success as well as your individual contributions. You will observe that two of the years he made All-NBA first team were the years he led his team to over 40 wins. To achieve that feat just 2 times in 7 years is underperformance