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raumdeuter:
Was the ball going to the direction where Ayew push Lovren? This VVD push was exactly at the location where Matip scored the header

But anything Liverpool this season the FA will give

2 dives by Mane - Penalty
2 handballs by Trent no Penalty
2 pushes, 1 a goal disallowed vs Palace, 1 goal allowed vs Arsenal

Did you also see Sterlings goal disallowed yesterday when VAR was measuring inches on the field? How come they didnt measure this for Salah's goal against City last gameweek

Ayew took Lovren out of contention for the ball with that push. There is no ref that spots that that will not blow let's keep it a buck

Mané did not dive Baba. If you want to question the Tottenham penalty (which was not a dive) the one vs Leicester was definitely not a dive. Dive is what Hudson Odoi did vs Burnley

Godx:
Fury will end him come feburary that's even if he's man enough to face him. Wilder won't be lucky like the last time.

Fury has been the one running from Wilder though. Fighting cab men, going to the WWE etc. Remember he is a father of 5

raumdeuter:
Did VVD push Guedozi vs Arsenal?
Watch where VVDs hand was for the corner

https://j.gifs.com/71y8Py.gif

There was a push there but the Ayew own was worse. What does it even matter? They lost 3-1 if I recall

KingAzubuike:
But he was the best player on the pitch yesterday after modric.. football isn't all about goals, sometime the kind of rare quality you bring to your team matters alot. If Abraham no dey even score at all but he dey ball the kind ball wey go burst fans head and scatter brains nobody for dey complain about am

Football isn't all about goals? For a wing forward?

Nothing Mompha no go see for EFCC custody. You better be thankful Benzema is in form else they would be shining more knives for Hazard

chic2pimp:
At this point, maybe it's about time we all admit unless things drastically changes, that "MVP Potential" most thought He had isn't simply going to come to fruition. He is currently towing the Andrew Wiggins path.

Ben Simmons MVP potential? Lmaooooooo

KarnBarlow:
Thought of what? That you have a disingenuous and mendacious disposition? I guess you're right, I should know what you are by now. I'm not back tracking seeing as you're alluding claims to me i ever made but invented of your own lunacy.

Let me know when you're done bloviating and moonwalking past your previous arguments

KarnBarlow:
Again that poor knowledge of socio economic concept shows. Comparing the opulence of a region with a population less than 8 million to one with a population over a billion. Of course per capita wise a region like that will have an edge given its relative head start to other chinese regions. Now the fact that even with these factors mainland china has enjoyed a more buoyant economic growth within this period is nothing short of remarkable. Like i said, i dont expect you to appreciate that so if you're trying to show some form of economic superiority stemming from hong kongs system you have no idea what you're talkig about.

You're so spectacularly obtuse sometimes I wonder why I even bother. You talk as if Hong Kong's opulence is down to its population and not down to the economic activity and ports that made it a financial hub. You had no business bringing up mainland China's economic turnaround as it is not germane to the discussion as to whatever system HK had been running from time immemorial

Whatever mainland China has been able to do is completely unrelated to this subject matter but you're too dense to see it

KarnBarlow:
You saying this has nothing to do with the west sums up how confused you are. Was it not the west that seceded hong kong from the Qing dynasty in the first place? All this talk of reneging and tampering with what rightfully belongs to them? And where is this manufactured faux outrage coming from? africa? who has been fanning the flames in these regions? this guy really said it has nothing to do with the best. Bruh, just leave this issue alone and cover your head in shame. You are embarrassing yourself.

Shut up! Nobody is here for your nonsense history lesson. Is the Qing dynasty still in existence? Hong Kong was a spoil of war for the Brits so I don't know why you're bringing up past tense.

Any objective and reasonable human with basic decency will expect agreements and established laws between two parties to be honored. Mainland China is reneging on that and the citizens of HK are rightly pushing back. This is not even a fight for secession as you foolishly alluded to earlier.

Stop making this about the West and exposing your ignorance even further you abominable Muppet

KarnBarlow:
Good, its a charitable donation, one that will change millions of lives in the long run and one that would not have happened without him. Like i said, only a bronsexual will even attempt to take that away from him.

No one is saying that you pathetic Bronsexual. I am saying he made it about him when better informed people know taxpayers are also making it happen

KarnBarlow:
Oh so now its not our place when you literally just tried to compare his contributions to that of lebron. because you realize how senseless it is? Well known for not publicizing when you just quoted a donation of his? by that logic i can simply claim lebron has many more donations he hasnt publicized. And its not just about financial contributions, its about speaking up on the myriad of issues that plague the community that holds him so dear, that sees him as a deity. And if you are denying his frugal nature heres what his friend Barkley has to say

Your ability to process and understand is abysmal. I brought up MJ's charity work as a retort to buffoons like you who claim he does nothing in the community. Neither you or I are privy to their accounts so there is no way anyone can categorically tell who gives what. Not that it even matters because they both worked hard to make their wealth and are entitled to spend it how they both please.

It is foolish in your part to conclude either person gives less or more because there is absolutely nothing you can prove

Speaking up on issues? What has that ever solved? Anyway I don't blame you you're the typical black who is moved by noise and audio activists. When it was time for LeNomad to actually speak up we saw how he spoke up. For his $$

KarnBarlow:
"I always give homeless people money and [MJ will] always slap my hand and say, ‘If they can ask you for spare change they can say ‘Welcome to McDonald’s, can I help you please?'”

How ignorant, as if homelessness is simply caused by joblessness.

Ever heard of the phrase, 'Give him money this week and next week he's broke'

If that's your definition of frugality then you're far far more stupid than I ever assumed. How many homeless people will Charles Barkley be able to give money? What happens when the money runs out? Sheesh! You're just an utter waste of my time.

KarnBarlow:
LOL You tried to compare his accomplishments to someone who holds over 100 NFL records and when you failed you tried using team accomplishments as is expected of you lot. That jordie shore mafia logic.

Shut up! It's a team sport. This is not the damn combine, this is not track and field you buffoon!! Any individual accomplishment outside the context of team is limited in it's usefulness.

You have seen the image of Tom Brady's individual accomplishments and how it led his team to 9 Superbowls and 6 Superbowl rings. If you choose to bury your head in sand like an ostrich that's your personal problem

KarnBarlow:
LMAO, Again, i have stooped low enough already. Like i said, i loathe the little man and actually like ronaldo but If anyone can watch messi and ronaldo, read their stats and somehow still come away with the conclusion that ronaldo is better he needs a mental institution not Ersan.

Ronaldo is better. Choke on it

What an eediot. It's like someone saying you cant compare Prince to MJ. Everyone with their preference but to say they can't be compared just like Ronaldo and Messi is asinine

SkimpleD:
ffs, this Liverpool var controversy is becoming annoying

But Ayew did push Lovren

KarnBarlow:
Stop creating these senseless false narratives. Wittingly or unwittingly you keep creating senseless points i never suggested to argue about. At no point did i claim his greatness is solely sentimental. And you dont understand that most global icons have a special status in the communities they emanated from and in this case the most influential in his field then thats on you. You have glaring comprehension issues man, you really do

You should have thought of that before going on a poor and pointless attempt at an explanation for MJ's ranking. Keep back tracking

KarnBarlow:
Again if you dont understand the the political and economic implications this "judicial autonomy" spells for mainland china and why they will do anything to maintain their influence like i said thats on you, not me. I mentioned the mainlands feats to dispel the narrative that tries to point their system as evil or what they're doing as "overstepping their boundaries" like you claim. Hong kong is a region under the sovereignty of the peoples republic of china, everything that they've enjoyed economically or otherwise is directly linked to the PRC cause everything they do is with the blessing of the PRC. They have no autonomy other than what the PRC agrees to. If you cant see western states and their gullible cronies trying to take advantage and trying to fan the flames to create disunity and ultimately give them an upper hand in their quest for supremacy. Again, thats on you.

You clearly don't know or understand this otherwise you wont be saying some of the nonsense you've been saying.

I am cringing at your cluelessness. China didn't even get Hong Kong till 97 and have been running a separate system both economically and judicially since then.

Stop talking nonsense! It is not about whether they are good or evil but the fact that with these laws they are reneging and encroaching on the One country two systems arrangement on ground. Where you got your silly comparisons with regions trying to break away I honestly don't know

Like I said ab initio. Hong Kong has been far more advanced economically than mainland China while they were under Britain, in 1997 when they got back to China and beyond. China played 0 role in Hong Kong being an economic hub in Asia

At the heart of the protests is China's repeated attempts to tamper with Hong Kong's judicial autonomy already agreed upon. This has nothing to do with the West you Muppet.

Just because you're ornery and cantankerous don't confuse that with actual knowledge on any subject matter

KarnBarlow:
For the short term efficacy and long term sustainability of the school he is not allowed to donate more than a certain amount or it becomes a charter school. He is however the major individual donor and prime mover behind the school hence why its named after him. Why wont he be the face of the school? if its so simple how many people have done it? Will the school exist without him? Is that what stealing glory is? And this guy will later claim he doesnt hate lebron. Okay bronsexual

[/quote]Still it is facetious to call a school your school when taxpayers are responsible for almost 80% of the cost. Common sense! At best it was a charitable donation. Subsequent funding will actually come from taxpayers

I'm not a hater though. I'm not a Bronsexual zombie like you and your ilk who falsely accused a man of being responsible for his old man's death

KarnBarlow:
Apart from individual contributions worth tenths of millions made by lebrons his foundation has raised tenths of millions for the less privileged. Happy that jordan is doing something commendable but only a mad man and members of the jordie shore will compare lebrons contributions to society to jordan. Oh and BTW, Lebron is worth a quarter of what Jordan is worth.

Shut up. The long and short of this whole banter is it's not your place and that of other pocket watching kangaroos to tell a man what to do with his wealth. Jordan is well known for not talking about or publicising his charitable works and societal contributions. Not everyone lives to show off their deeds like LeNomad

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/12034228/michael-jordan-contribution-black-issues-greater-perceived

KarnBarlow:
Yet somehow you keep using his team achievements as basis of your argument.

I have to legit ask you if you're blind at this point. Maybe someone is typing for you and what he read in your stead is lost in translation. I literally posted his individual achievements the other day

KarnBarlow:
Lol, these people just never learn. Like i said, i'm not even going to entertain this rubbish. I have stooped low enough already.

You either come up with a coherent response or STFU. Your man Messi has overseen two of the biggest chokejobs in CL history. The type you come here to troll Steph Curry for. Keep the same energy hypocrite

Wilder vs Ortiz tonight

Looks like Bones vs Reyes next as well. Should be good

What's all this unnecessary salaye I'm reading here. Where is the Parte After Parte?

KarnBarlow:
I swear the way you cant understand simple concepts is extremely alarming. I admitted jordan was a global icon, then his status in the basketball community and then i emphasized how much he means especially to the black community. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Can the same not be said of michael jackson? Its like saying manny pacquiao is a global icon, and hes like a god in the Philippines. Again, simple concept. You'd think.

Your analogy was rubbish. You paint the image of Jordan's greatness being purely sentimental and not due to actual feats on the court. MJ's legend was built on winning, dominance and the fact that he won like no other. Not race and not whatever he meant to the black community.

KarnBarlow:
Have you considered a career in stand up? What did Daryl Morey tweet to start this? Did you not just literally post this

You're the clown that confused a region fighting to maintain it's judicial autonomy with regions trying to break away from countries

KarnBarlow:
If this is what you think then you dont know anything about world politics or world history. There are tenths of regions seeking independence in the world, i dont see you carrying a flag for them. Does it mean we should just go about chopping countries up? China is doing what every country would do. Why did america declare war on the confederacy after they declared independence? You lot are so gullible its not even funny. What does raising people out of poverty have to do with it? LMAO! This guy

Dude, stop with this issue. You know nothing about it and it shows. Its embarrassing. Starting to think yomi has 3 accounts on this thread.
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What you dropped here is yet another senseless analogy completely unrelated to the protests at hand

China isn't doing what any country will do, it is overstepping it's boundaries. They have a working system which mainland China is trying to break goofball

KarnBarlow:
I'm the ignorant one? Between 1990 and 2015 china went from having 755 million people below the poverty line by world bank standard to less than a million. Do you know what it means for a populous, the most populous country in the world to achieve what the chinese economy has been achieving? to grow at a pace fast enough to meet the new employment needs of the population. You dont understand economics so i dont expect you to appreciate the stats and data. They may not be perfect, but they're doing great for themselves. Keep believing the nonsense western media keeps feeding you.

Shut up! Again you're chatting more verbose nonsense completely unrelated to matter at hand. Hong Kong is different from mainland China and their economic progress never has been tied to China. Where China is getting to Hong Kong has been there for eons.

Don't tell me what I already know Captain Pedantic

You will soon come here to tell us China lifted Hong Kong and Macau out of poverty as well. What a poof!

KarnBarlow:
If the school isnt mainly funded by tax payers it will be a charter school einstein. Did you know lebron has started providing housing for the families of his students as well. Mj "silently" put it down but somehow you know about it. Do you think if MJ was still the biggest basketball star in the world it wouldnt hit all the headlines? This dude

Exactly so why the ceremony like he single handedly built and funded the school?

Taxpayers are shelling $8m per annum but this Muppet is here trying to explain why his MCM must steal the glory. But this is typical LeNomad he gets all the glory even when others make significant contributions

Of course I know because I'm a fan and MJ's donation is not coming at any costs to taxpayers.

KarnBarlow:
So is believing they are succeeding because of him.

I've already shown you Brady's individual accomplishments. If you choose to keep frothing in the mouth there really isn't much else for me to do

KarnBarlow:
You also think ronaldo is better than messi, we get it, you have funny opinions.

Their close proximity of accolades and individual achievements suggests that is not a funny opinion but you're a goofball so I'd assume everything will be funny to you

KarnBarlow:
You bronsexuals never fail to contradict yourself, ohh with ronaldo its his team but then messi should lead his team

Like i said, i'm not going to entertain this rubbish.

Ronaldo led a Madrid team to 4 CL titles without a single teammate scoring more than 5 goals so stop talking shyte and let me know when Messi does that

Messi played with Suarez, Griezmann, Neymar, Henry, Villa, Eto'o. That's more than enough team

Who cares what you entertain or don't entertain?

KarnBarlow:
Magic has averaged over 15 shots a game in a few seasons. Just LeBron can score doesnt take away his playmaking. Lebron can play point guard more comfortably than he can play shooting guard.

The GOAT once averaged 8 assists a season yet we have zombies that swore he didn't or couldn't pass or play make

The crux here is he is primarily a scorer not a passer like people claim

KarnBarlow:
Of course it doesnt make any sense when you've nit picked my comment to the point where you dont even know what you're arguing about.

You still made 0 sense

KarnBarlow:
Thats like asking what michael jackson do beyond music that made him mean that much. Exactly!

You will never chill with your asinine comparisons. You talked about his adjudged greatness being due to his status in black communities even after being told blacks consist less than 15% of the entire American population and so it would be stupid to attribute his staying power to that. As always you're perennially in a rush to respond without reading and understanding

KarnBarlow:
If this is what you think then you dont know anything about world politics. There are tenths of regions seeking independence in the world, i dont see you carrying a flag for them. Does it mean we should just go about chopping countries up? China is doing what every country would do. Why did america declare war on the confederacy after they declared independence? You lot are so gullible its not even funny. What does raising people out of poverty have to do with it? LMAO! This guy

Ohhhh the irony. Who told this clown these Hong Kong protests are a fight for independence? Lmaoooo smh. You're so uninformed it's unreal.

This matter has nothing to do with poverty and if you think China lifted the likes of Hong Kong and Macau out of poverty then you're far more ignorant than I assumed

KarnBarlow:
Trash and how much more has LeBron given without fan fare. If his philanthropy is so secret how do you know about it? You think the biggest NBA player in the world opening a school can be kept secret? Did you know that the proceeds from "the decision" you lot bash him for went to the boys and girls club. Your gullibility is frankly very funny

What donation has LeNomad done that did not lead to a media circus. Man's opened a school actually being funded by taxpayers and you lot ran with it

Pocket watching clowns call MJ stingy but he just put down 4 times more than what LeNomad is alleged to have put on the table with little or no noise

KarnBarlow:
You keep bringing up team achievements. Why prop up his ability to influence the game when you just admitted that at 42 even at the twilight of his career his team isnt faltering? Like i said, the patriots are still great but not because of tom brady. Any attempt to put their success solely on him is a fools errand.

I have to question your ability to read at this point. Please don't take offense

When did 3 League MVPs become a team effort? 4 Superbowl MVPs are also team achievement.

Tom Brady has 14 TDs and 5 picks for the season. He is doing his part. This is past his peak Brady anyway, prime Brady was passing for 50 TDs in a season and leading his team to unbeaten seasons in his prime. Brady is not at his best but to suggest the team has been great without or inspite of him is clownery.

KarnBarlow:
LOL LJ KAJ MJ. In that order.

MJ-KAJ-Magic-Kobe-Bird-Duncan-LeNomad

KarnBarlow:
Ahh the ol reliable. But LeBron came back and went on the greatest NBA playoff run since the boston celtics. Until Giannis proves he can recover from his sh-t show last year thats on you!

Then wait for that time. Afterall LeNomad didn't win a chip till his 9th year in the league with an Avengers ensemble

KarnBarlow:
All those la liga trophies, all those cup and supercup titles at the expense of ronaldo, all those classicos he out shined ronaldo even in his own stadium. You fan girls couldnt talk then, Ronaldo wasnt clutch then but now you're energized. Funny people. You can name one thing he does better than ronaldo but you're sticking to your delusions of grandeur. Frankly its embarrassing!

What is largely a myth? That messi is a greater scorer than ronaldo? LMAO Dude, i'm not going to entertain this nonsense. Get to stepping!

Nonsense. What of CL trophies? Where were you when Ronaldo decided the Copa Del Rey Final on neutral ground?

Ronaldo joined a Madrid team that couldn't get past the second round of a CL campaign and led the team to 4 titles in 9 years and you're comparing him to a Messi that met an established system on ground. BS!

When Messi leads his teams to 5 CL titles get at me. E go be

PS: Since you clearly don't understand what individual achievements mean, peruse the image below

Roland17:
You are misconstruing me. Choosing not to expand his offense does not mean he has stagnated! Absolutely not.. Also, the peak or maybe I should have used the word “prime” instead can be measured using his active years. Take Shaq and the Admiral for instance, both chose not to expand their games past beneath/ around the rim. They just improved on their already existing offense without expanding past the rim. Even in his existing game there are aspects he still needs to improve on and that can be the goal. If he does not plan to expand his game, there is no biggie there and that does not imply he has stagnated. If the plan is to expand his offense then he has not shown anything different.

What will you have Giannis add to his game? From what I have seen it is not from a lack of effort. I still think most of what ailed Giannis vs the Raptors was running into a slightly more battle tested squad. He can shoot better obviously but by how much. He is also going to need his teammates (Middleton, Bledsoe) not to look like bums

KarnBarlow:
Magic has led his teams in scoring. Magic averages 20 and 11 for his career so hes not exactly dormant as far as scoring. LeBron averages 27 and 7 for his career. Hence the hybrid tag, hes a passer and a scorer and a rebounder. Also like magic a tall guy who handles the ball well and is one of the greatest passers of all time .As a player, his mentality, his build minus the athleticism, as far as always making the right play, all round more magic than jordan. Its just a fact. You cant put your feelings before facts. No one said LeBron is not a scorer. Like i said, swiss army knife.

No one said Magic was dormant at scoring simply that he took far fewer shots and averaged far more assists than LeNomad. You're not a pass first guy while taking 20 shots a game.

This is not an indictment or an Inquisition of LeNomad's ability to pass just correcting the notion that he is anything but primarily a scorer

KarnBarlow:
Bruh, i've explained my point multiple times and if still you can't understand and keep repeating yourself thats your business. At least any sensible person who read that knows what i meant.

You're talking noise mate. Your point made 0 sense

KarnBarlow:
Who here said hes not a global icon? Thats literally what i said before expanding further into what he means in certain communities especially. You may slander lebron for sticking by the league but what he has done and is doing in his communities nothing will change. The fact remains your man never did a fraction of what lebron does. And yeah he didnt criticize a country and a system that has lifted 700 million people out of poverty because of dumb american jingoism. What a sellout indeed.

And what did MJ do beyond his basketball that made him mean that much? After all you bipolar lot claim and swear he did nothing for the community but sell sneakers

Sticking with the league and making sure the China money keeps rolling in. So much for the faux activist.

Lool more nonsense. What does poverty have to do with a group of people fighting for their autonomy not to be undermined and to enjoy civil liberties. Where is the connection? How convenient

Your man is a sellout who talks from both sides of his mouth.

MJ recently donated $7m to fund clinics in his home state. Quietly and without any noise unlike your fraud who supposedly 'opened' a school that trended all over ESPN but is actually being funded by taxpayers money. A fraud

Lmaoooo don't ever compare that man to the GOAT. A real philanthropist gives without any noise and fanfare

KarnBarlow:
You just talked about him being carried and in the same breath you talk about him beating someone singlehandedly. Sums up your confusion. You lot use super bowl rings to talk about him being the GOAT but you just admitted hes not solely responsible for them so how is that an accurate measure of his individual greatness? This patriots are the greatest nfl team? sure. I'm not saying hes not the greatest quarterback, hes just not the greatest overall football player.

What is this clown on about. Your eyes are open but you can barely read and comprehend. Figuratively speaking Tom Brady got the better of both their head to head matchups even in his MVP season.

Asking me why Tom Brady is not the best QB right now speaks to your ignorance because how you expect a 42 year old to be the best player in the league is bizarre to put it mildly.

Tom Brady has won 3 MVPs, 4 Superbowl MVPs, the only unbeaten season in modern era. Whether rings or individual achievements Brady is not lacking anywhere. He is the greatest QB and overall football player because he can influence the outcome of a game like no other player can, not Lawrence Taylor, not Jerry Rice. Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr

KarnBarlow:
His career didnt start and end with the lakers. Still the second greatest player of all time.

Behind Jordan for sure

KarnBarlow:
What difference does it make? LeBron is effective now, you can't neutralize him in the playoffs like you can Giannis. He gets the job done and makes his jumpers when it counts. This isnt even about Giannis, kareem and shaq are basically useless outside of 3 ft and they're still top 5 cause it didnt matter for them like it does Giannis. Things have changed now and you need some shooting to lead a team in this league. Lebrons 38% percent doesnt matter cause all in all hes an efficient scorer and has still delivered in the playoffs.

Giannis is not the one that went to an NBA Final and averaged 17 pts per game.

KarnBarlow:
Just name one thing Ronaldo does better than messi apart from head the ball. Messis a better dribbler, passer, scorer, dead ball specialist and has a much higher football IQ. You know you have no idea how much solace this brings me. Knowing this argument is against someone who thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi. I like ronaldo, i dont like messi, as a matter of fact i cant stand him. But facts are facts.

This is not Futsal. A player can be better skilled and still fall short to a less technically gifted one. It's not about their respective abilities it's about how each player has been able to maximize them for their respective teams and don't come with that nonsense of its a team sport. It's not like Messi dribbles all 10 players to go and score either

Your scoring theory is largely a myth as well. No player has ever come through in the clutch especially in the Champions League like Cristiano Ronaldo. He has more international goals as well

Same way Peyton Manning is more talented than Tom Brady but Tom Brady is still the GOAT

Roland17:
At 25 and at this stage, can we agree Giannis is at the prime of his NBA career? I am not speaking projections or prospects, I am speaking of now from what we have seen? I believe the answer to this question is a yes.
Again, except the expectation is for him to stick to this current style and not look to expand his offense then I would not be bothered but if we are saying he needs to expand his game so he is not predictable, he has not done anything new to me then. The fact that he got clobbered and did not get calls last night buttressed the fact that he can be game planned for in contrast to expanding his offense. If he chooses to stick to his bread and butter, I will have no problems but I can not imagine how demonic he would be if he expands his offense.

No. At 25 he has not even reached his peak yet. This is literally his 3rd season as an elite player so no

I'm sorry but you can't tell me that a player Giannis's age is already the finished article or should be. Should he fail to improve we can then argue he had stagnated however it's far too early to make that call.

What Giannis needs to work on is his jumper but we have seen numerous players e.g LaMarcus Aldridge with decent jumpers who still can't get it done in the post season. What really hurt Giannis more than his lack of a jumper was his decision making and his teammates who failed to hit shots each time he drove and kicked to them.

steady986:
Because you went ahead to list MJ accolades, so I had to bring you back to earth.

I know it's Friday but unless you're in the Middle East or the Orient as we speak it's far too early in the day to be drunk

KarnBarlow:
Whatever you say, bronsexual.

Truth hurts Bronsexual

KarnBarlow:
LOL I'm gunning for someone to fail? who?

The evidence is everywhere

KarnBarlow:
Original? Because he took from the games of those that came before him?

So the forward who has more assists than any other forward in NBA history and averages more assists than all the great forwards in NBA history who by the way is currently playing PG and leading the league in assists who has been notorious for trying to get his teammates involved before getting off himself, this guy is not more magic anything Lebron is a swiss army knife, but right from his high school days, he has always been about his assists.

Of course let's ignore the era of basketball, the talent he has played with and the fact that he has been surrounded by shooters for the sizable chunk of his career. A ninja who took 2 fewer shots than MJ and 6 more than Magic is a scorer that can pass. Doesn't make him more Magic anymore than Giannis Antetokounmpo is more Magic just means he can pass.

LeNomad has never not led his team in FGA. He is a scorer first before passer. Stop spreading these lies

KarnBarlow:
Keep confusing yourself. I did not say its just about race. I mentioned his standing in basketball as a whole and his special standing in the black community, if what i said about the black community is all you saw you need to see an optometrist.

MJ's status has nothing to do with his blackness or how he is seen within the black community. Stop being deliberately obtuse!

He is more of a global icon. In the black community after all we have clowns like you who tagged him stingy and a corporate sellout. Though just recently when push came to shove we actually found out who the real corporate sellout was

KarnBarlow:
Way did skip through the point while making my point at the same time. Something is making the patriots as good as they are. Its certainly not brady.

You're horribly clueless. At 42 Tom Brady has earned the right to be carried after 4 Superbowl MVPs, 6 rings and 3 Regular season MVPs. Feat no single Patriot or NFL player living or dead has ever and probably would ever achieve

As recently as 2017 he was voted league MVP. Last season he beat the so-called MVP Patrick Mahomes in his own stadium and then beat him in Foxboro as well. He is old enough to sire Patrick Mahomes and he did sire him on the field. I know another notorious Bronsexual like yourself Nick Wright who comes on TV trying to slander Tom Brady. It's ridiculous how uninformed you zombies can be

KarnBarlow:
Doesnt matter, he may have gone there at the latter stages of his career but put some respect on the captains name. 6 MVPs, 19x all star, 15x all NBA, 11 times all defense.

Not even the best Showtime Laker though.

KarnBarlow:
[s]The more you see the less you understand.[/s]

KarnBarlow:
But we've seen LeBron destroy teams with his jumper in the playoffs. In fact some of his greatest games were sealed by the potency of his jumpers. Go ask the spurs or the celtics or the raptors how bad a shooter LeBron is. Its a less potent poison, but he has delivered with it nonetheless. Giannis doesnt have even half the consistency of lebrons jumper, especially in the playoffs. Oh LeBron is a better 3 pt shooter than Kobe and MJ so...

How long did he take to get a jumper? Don't shoot yourself in the foot because you came here to admit it. He's still a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft. Winning the odd game with a purple patch of shooting does not change zilch

M.J averaged less than 2 3 point attempts per game, LeNomad averaged almost 6.

LeNomad - 34%
MJ - 32%

The margin is infinitesimal and still doesn't negate my argument that LeNomad is a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft and so Giannis does not have nearly as much ground to cover as you claim

KarnBarlow:
The fact that you can watch football and somehow conclude that Ronaldo is better than Messi just sums up how subjective you are with everything. I hated the little man, i hate barcelona but if you watch that man and conclude that Ronaldo is better you need serious help. Me not liking messi doesnt stop me from giving him the respect he deserves. See unlike you, i am not a hater.

This is an extremely obtuse assertion to make. One player might be more naturally gifted but at some point results, performances in crucial games and other metrics have to count as well.

Cristiano won 5 Champions League titles on two different teams as the undisputed best player on his team and a crazeman is telling me I can't conclude Ronaldo is better. Who died and made you judge and jury on that?

Roland17:
Baba, taking the next steps means diversifying/ expanding his offense. Maybe that is not a requirement but I think it makes it difficult and almost impossible to game plan against him and helps his all around game. At this point his offense is way too predictable and he gets away with a lot of foul calls but it can be easily nuked and that is what bothers me. Who knows, maybe it is not necessary that he expands his offense past what it is now.

Ok let's play a little game. Aside the GOAT himself I want you to honestly list 5 guys who before they turned 25 had no weaknesses in their game either mentality wise or with their oncourt skillset. Like at 25 you could say this guy it's impossible to game plan against him.

Did you watch the Bucks and Blazers? I did and Giannis was clobbered Everytime he got into the paint. He didn't get nearly enough calls as he deserved

A 25 year old in any field of human endeavor is still in the stage of improving, but Giannis just like every other player will always have their limitations

steady986:
Iverson has 1 MVP, 0 finals MVP, 0 titles, but guess what, he's top 20 all time, probably top 15 for some.

I know I can always count on you to yarn Okoto meow kutukutu meow meow skrrrrrrrr skrr completely unrelated to the argument

Roland17:
Thus far, Giannis has not shown me anything different from what we saw last season or the entirety of his career when he became popular. He has not taken that next step I was anticipating. I am not questioning his quality but just saying..

Giannis isn't even 25. I don't know what leap you would have him make at this point and how a u-25 year old is supposed to be flawless with no holes in his game

Even James Harden and Westbrook at this age and stage of their careers still have many glaring weaknesses so perhaps Giannis isn't the only one that needs to take that next step

HewlettPackard:
Isn't that double standard?



Well, this is Nigeria.

Even for church the people that drop the biggest tithe and pledge sit in the front seat. Normal levels

HewlettPackard:
Yeah. Found out it was a Christian school, by default forbids fornication,


that alone nullifies my argument.

Good. You now understand

Dayo brought the Davido example but Davido papa has spent Billions in Babcock. He can even knack on top VC's desk, he has Diplo immunity

afrodoc2:
Babcock has a right to expel the girl. The only thing that MIGHT save her is if she is able to provide exculpatory evidence showing that she was unaware the act was being recorded.

It’s not about her having sex or being a virgin. It is about her engaging in conduct which negatively impacts the school’s reputation I.e recording a sex act.

Whoever released the video clip should face criminal charges. Jail time should be their punishment.

The girl’s punishment would be the expulsion. You don’t have to face criminal charges or commit a crime before you receive punishment from school.

One other angle she can use is to play the victim of a revenge porn scheme and activate the Me Too and Ultra-feminist movements.

They would be right to but this was also a teachable moment and a chance for them to temper justice with mercy.

Had they suspended her for two semesters it would have been harsh enough as a deterrent but also showed some form of middle ground and forgiveness which is what anything associated with Church should represent.

The me-too and ultra feminist yarns on Twitter will not move those schools one jot. Ariwo ko ni music oh

raumdeuter:
There were suspicion of domestic violence in Tiger Woods case which made many sponsor dissociate

Did you know it was his wife that was actually the one doing the assaulting

KarnBarlow:
First of all, everyone here can see you're more of a bronsexual than i am, it goes both ways. If the mention of LeBron gets you riled up you're a bronsexual. Seeing as you relate everyone and every debate to lebron you're the biggest bronsexual on this thread.

I talk about any and everything on this forum. Don't ascribe your title to me. You're the only notorious and obnoxious Bronsexual on this thread. All my anti-Bronsexual banter is purely basketball. You're the disgusting lot who once alluded to MJ having a hand in his old man's death. Only Bronsexuals like you will stoop that low

KarnBarlow:
Refusing to give someone credit when credit is due or irrationally hoping someone fails or consistently throwing insults at someone is sports banter? LMAO! The things you people say to justify your paltry vices.

You're such a hypocrite it's laughable. It's almost like you don't understand you're guilty of this exact same thing you're spewing. Look at the mirror this is literally you

KarnBarlow:
No one said lebron is magic completely, dont twist my words please. But hes more Magic than MJ in the sense that he gets off on getting teammates involved more than scoring. His obsession with making the right play rather than playing into emotions. Hes not magic or jordan or dr j or moses malone. Hes a little bit of each of those guys and thats what makes him so special.

So he's unoriginal and a copycat like we have been saying all along. LeNomad is a scorer that can pass, he is not more Magic anything. The numbers don't back that up. This silly myth must be exposed at all costs

KarnBarlow:
I mentioned his standing in the basketball community and then made emphasis on his standing in the black community.

Irrelevant. There was a GOAT before MJ became GOAT. MJ surpassed it by merit not his standing in any community. MJ is a bigger phenomenon worldwide than even amongst blacks. Don't equate this to something as minute in this context as race. That's lazy as hell

KarnBarlow:
Dont really give a rats furry bum about american football but from what i understand tom brady has been the beneficiary of the greatest nfl coach of all time with one of the greatest defenses of all time. Its quite simple, is tom brady the best quarterback in todays football? every reasonable soul in this world will say no, Patrick mahomes or maybe russell wilson will take that crown. Somehow tom brady and the patriots are the favorites and he'll probably win it all, is that because tom brady is the GOAT or hes on the best team in the NFL? Simple concept, yet you lot cant seem to understand it to save your souls.

Lmaoooo you're Jon Snow. You know absolutely nothing. Go and look up Bill Belichick with the Browns and come back to tell me what he achieved with those teams in 5 years as coach, tell us what he achieved with Drew Bledsoe at QB before Tom Brady came to rescue him from an ignominious exit from New England. He was 5-11 and 0-2 in his second season in Foxboro before GOAT Brady came to save him

Tom Brady is 42 nigga!! He's not supposed to be the best Quarterback in today's football. And yet he's been to 3 Superbowls in a row and was league MVP aged 40.

19 years of Patriots dominance on the field and the only common denominator is Brady

KarnBarlow:
Holding the fact that rice is a receiver against him is so funny. The thing is one can safely argue that lawrence taylor was greater than brady because as far as individual brilliance, does numbers rice has, its not even close.

There is a reason the Quarterback is tagged the most important position in Sports. You can debate who is the greatest till you're blue in the face but Tom Brady has more individual and team accolades than any of these guys you listed and can influence the outcome of a game more than any of these guys. Fair or not that's the reality

KarnBarlow:
KAJ was considered the GOAT before MJ and is still held to that status by a few, especially many who played during mjs era.

He wasn't even the best Showtime Laker. Please the KAJ ship sailed very quickly

KarnBarlow:
KAJ vs lebron is an argument i can entertain, i certainly think KAJ is the 2nd greatest player of all time after lebron so i can see how someone can make that argument. But bruh some of the points you made... LMAO This dude actually spoke of lebrons outside shooting and a second later compared him to kareem. Bruhh Man i'm dead.

Nobody cares what you entertain. The poll says it all

But it's true. Your man's a 38% from outside 3ft. I mean you lot come here to shyte on Giannis but LeNomad is barely better. So much for efficiency if only Kobe took more shots from 3ft maybe he would be more efficient

KarnBarlow:
Good that you brought that up. Does all this make Ronaldo better than Messi? I know you can be delusional but not this delusional. I used to deny messis greatness but that man is by far better than Ronaldo. If Ronaldo is so good lets see him lead juventus to a UCL title no? why did he fail last season since the GOAT is always supposed to win regardless of circumstances. Messi is literally better at everything than ronaldo except jumping. But ronaldo has more team accolades. So yeah. Thank you for making my argument for me.

You're crazy.
Of course Ronaldo is better than Messi. Put Ronaldo anywhere. In the EPL, La Liga, For Portugal and Cristiano Ronaldo dominates. We saw at the last World Cup how one man MOPOL Ronaldo fought Spain to a standstill.

If Ronaldo is so good let Ronaldo lead Juventus to a CL title? Are you on crack? Ronaldo led Real Madrid to not two, not three but 4 CL titles as the undisputed best player on the team and you're talmbout let him lead Juventus to a title. He doesn't need to lead Juventus to a goddamn Scudetto never mind a CL

What did Messi win outside Barcelona? How many CLs has Messi won as the best player in his squad

Ronaldo has nothing left to prove. Nothing! Messi has not won a CL in almost 5 seasons but it's Ronaldo who won a CL title just last year that has a point to prove. What a joke!

raumdeuter:
I have asked them which law, No one has been able to answer

Is the authority now trying to outlaw sex between consensual adults? There are Babacock students who are married will they also be sanctioned?

Davido as a Babcock student was smoking openly o in his music videos

Lmaoo you know how much Davido's father don pump into Babcock coffers? Species get levels nau

steady986:
Lol. You're very predictable. But LeBron is supposed to be washed na

Enjoy your weak schedule. Kawhi will still give him his size, you ninjas know this and that's why y'all are big mad the Clippers are load managing their player and showing faux concern

steady986:
I'm afraid it's not tennis. The BULLS did two 3 peats

With MJ their best player in all the series he played. Every single one! 6 Finals MVPs. Nobody has ever won more than 3

KarnBarlow:
LMAO "Nobody hates LeBron" sets the theme for everything you just wrote, erroneous and delusional. LeBron mimicks MJ on and off the court? Excep that MJ is magic Johnson LMAO! He has some of Jordans game, some of magics, some of moses malone, some of Dr J. As a player everyone knows his game is different from Jordans, hes more magic than jordan. And dont even compare him with jordan off the court. Literally the only thing lebron copied from jordan is his number.

Rubbish. Only Bronsexuals are busy confusing sports banter for hate. Isn't it Bronsexuals that lie unprovoked that MJ got suspended and swear he got his dad killed. That's real hate not the piffle you're chatting here.

Of course LeNomad is more Magic but averaged 6 more shots per game. I don't know why Bronsexuals will not stop propagating this silly myth

Magic is a career 13 shots per game guy who averaged 11asts per game

LeNomad is a career 19.6 shots per game guy averaging 7 asts per game while mostly surrounded by shooters

But naïve ninjas swear LeNomad is a pass first guy a la Magic. We don't believe you you need more people

KarnBarlow:
You're comparing joe montana to michael jordan? who is seen as "black jesus" in the black community? the face of the NBA in the 90s, whose shoes are the most sort after of all time. That mythical status is what you're comparing joe montana to? LMAO! Joe montana wasnt even the greatest footballer of all time. He may have been the greatest quarterback but jerry rice was and still is by far the GOAT in american football. At least in most peoples eyes.

What the bloodclart are you chatting about? What does race have to do with anything? Blacks are barely an 8th of the entire US population.

Jerry Rice?? Was Jerry Rice a Quarterback? WTF are you smoking??

By player and by position Tom Brady has surpassed both Jerry Rice and Joe Montana. In Super Bowl rings, Superbowl MVPs and in League MVPs, no sane human being after watching Tom Brady win 3 of the last 5 Superbowls is comparing him to Montana or a receiver who can't even throw himself the ball

KarnBarlow:
Yet somehow people in the older generation think KAJ is still the GOAT. Jordan popularized the sport, he had a good marketing team in an inferior era with less scrutiny. No one said hes a bum. He had his turn but enough with the revisionism. He was not a better basketball player than LBJ. Its that simple. When people call messi or ronaldo the GOAT no one talks about rings or 3 peats in a team sports. Its all about who has the most impact on a team and when you put lebron against anyone in history no one even comes close.

Who are these older generation that think KAJ is the GOAT? KAJ who was arguably not even the best player in most of the titles the Lakers won?

He's a much better player than your LeNomad who is a career 38% shooter from anywhere outside 3ft. More offensive moves in the perimeter and the post, better offensive rebounder, better shot blocker, better defender, better free throw shooter, better in the clutch better at everything and was more efficient than LeNomad despite not playing in an analytics era. Let that sink in.

Jordan has the highest PER both in the regular season and postseason.

Tagging Messi and Ronaldo the GOAT is directly related to their titles and goals record, stop blowing fallacies

Cristiano Ronaldo has won more CL titles (5) and CL Golden Boots than anyone else in the modern era. He also led Madrid to a 3peat. A feat that had never been achieved in CL history. Sounds familiar?

Messi is a close second with 4. Stop telling fibs

raumdeuter:
I think expelling the girl was too much.

Is there a law that they shouldnt have sex in the school compound? If the school is saying they committed the act outside school then how is it their business?

If she does porrn at home how does it concern the school

This is Seventh day Adventist Church we're talking about here. There is no so-called religious private university that will not expel the girl if we're being honest. I heard CU girls conduct pregnancy test sef (unconfirmed rumor) but the truth is so long as you be their student it's their way or the highway

Ibime:
This is graphic.
Link me to the video please.

I have the link oh. You want to watch?

HewlettPackard:
If that babe has been truly expelled then I'm sad. This bloody hypocritical moral compass will take us nowhere.



This shit made we remember the numerous times I had sex in our university library. That feeling of tension and pleasure,

Mad.

Inasmuch as I sympathize and empathise with the girl. Nobody wants that kind of bad press even in the corporate world never mind a student representing a conservative religious establishment (camouflaged as a school) not sure they had a choice. Hopefully they are at least decent enough to hand her her transcripts so she can try her luck elsewhere