₦airaland Forum

Adiwana:
Not in a case of them losing.Bulgaria were never a challenge to them to begin with but

Iheanancho that doesn't even make bench for Leceister again and Anichebe that could be argued slowly faded away from football.If Iheanacho picks himself up from whatever that's affecting him and at least does something significant at club level,he's coming back and retaining his shirt at Super Eagles

Then Nigeria should be the launch pad for Iheanacho to put his career back together. Have we not seen players who were struggling at club level and used international performances to get a new club? Why has Nigeria abandoned Iheanacho in his time of trouble?

Adiwana:
Not in a case of them losing.Bulgaria were never a challenge to them to begin with but

Iheanancho that doesn't even make bench for Leceister again and Anichebe that could be argued slowly faded away from football.If Iheanacho picks himself up from whatever that's affecting him and at least does something significant at club level,he's coming back and retaining his shirt at Super Eagles

It took CAF over 3 months to cough out AFCON funds. Is that the tournament you want Tammy to come and die on top?

Even if he is not making bench shouldn't his past services for Nigeria get him a look in? Why can't they play him so another club would see his talent and be willing to take him away from Leicester? After all international football is rife with players who barely get playing time from their clubs. Why did we dump the likes of Utaka and co quickly when they had trouble

The same AFCON I heard they have not paid the prize winners their monies till now na him you want make Tammy come struggle for. Alaye jorjorjor

Adiwana:
You keep on saying Afcon is useless but winning it is still better than having 0 international career trophies.Messi has 0 international trophies despite copa America being more uselss than afcon.A competition they have to hand over invites for other countries in other continets to come and join them in playing due to shortage of teams.Only Argentina, Colombia and Brazil are decent there.Add Chile and you have an already set up semi final even before the competition even began.Still its a silverware that have escaped Messi which he may never win.


I can also call a couple of African players that would've been crazy players for European countries.It really goes both ways

From 1981 to 2021 Nigeria would have won a grand total of 2 AFCON title. You really need to dead this AFCON yarns as if it's a sure thing

Adiwana:
A40, Bulgaria 0 - England 5, subs are Wilson,Mount and Sancho. No Tammy despite being 5 nil up.lol

You do realize Chelsea and Southgate could have had an understanding not to play Tammy as he's their only decent striker right now right?

Even if he fails to crack the National team the likes of Anichebe, Iheanacho and co what was their gain at last?

birdman:
i tell yall d truth, i dont know dak. i never met him. i may have heard of him but i dont know him know him

Is it this Dak Prescott the dink and dunk merchant birdman was saying they should pay elite QB money? Yeye dey smell!

If the Cowboys have sense let them better bite the bullet and seek a quality QB from the draft and endure the growing pains.

They have made the first mistake overpaying Zeke. If they overpay Dak they will be hamstrung till Jerry Jones is knocking on heaven's door

larride:
Yeah. lil kesh should have never left YBNL though.

Olamide actually unearthed gold in Fireboy. That guy is good.

And the beauty is he gives them free hand to sing their style. When Adekunle Gold was there he didn't try to shoe horn his sound to make pop and bubblegum music and see how far he's gone

Those are the people that should be calling themselves Chairman honestly. Because he's more or less a one man MOPOL

Some firecracker games today.

The Browns everyone's favorite Superbowl pick are now 2-4

The showdown between Mahomes and Watson was pure napalm. Can't believe I'd ever be able to say 3 of the top 5 best QBs in the league are black. Hell I could say the top 3 right now are black

larride:
Apart from Davido

Lmaoooo that one na Mazaje nau. Who wan near am?

And if you want to talk of someone who gave people full platform to blow it's someone like him and Olamide. Not even MI.

Elnino4ladies:
Canadian Hazard Ibime is good though

Lmaoooo Ibime is actually better on wax.

That carry money cover your face like Lagbaja line for one of him song dey always amuse me.

One of the few that could write bars and make it sound dope on a record.

Ibime:
He's doing too much.

When you strip it down, HipHop is struggling in Nigeria, but MI is trying to act as if he's above it. How can your biggest single of last few years be on 250k views on YouTube and you trying to form boss. He is flossing with ChocCity assets which ain't in his name, and Vector did not attack that angle well cos he is also broke. There is no way MI will have expensive assets personally in his name and.his family will be struggling so much. He is just using Presidency of ChocCity in which he owns minimal shares to form boss but what is in his pocket cant cater for his family well. He is just the biggest fish in a very small pond. I expected Vector to use.these angles to attack him well and bring him down to his level, but Vector psychology is damaged by his own failures.

His reaction to the little disses Vector threw his way really shows a lot about his level of security in his achievements.

I was shocked he was responding. If Vector had come with a harder reply only God knows what M.I would have done. Vector really didn't do his homework with his reply. That you're a less financially successful MC should count for little in rap beef so while he might not have the PR machinery he could still drop something and people would easily say he won the battle like in the case of Nas vs Jigga

One thing I've learned about Naija music industry is 90% of the people in the game their money na Audio.

Was almost shocked Seb was able to defend against Hamilton for almost 10 laps. I keep forgetting he's a 4 time Champ.

I just want to know why the Mercs are always so damn fast on race day

Adiwana:
Iwobi is a bang average player that still gets endorsements because he's a Nigerian.Pepsi,dstv etc all gave him money when dude could barely score a goal.Nationality doesnt affect negotiation clout.If you can put the ball at the back of the net,you can demand more money.Again,I cant even remember the last time England won anything.Not that he may win anything with Nigeria anyway but the chances here are bigger than England

Lol you mean Pepsi Nigeria and DSTV can pay what English sponsors can pay? Get real please

You think Nike care when last England won anything? They are still one of the most marketable teams in Europe.

What is the thing he may win in Nigeria? E pass AFCON?

Adiwana:
How does he have the clout to negotiate when he's a bench warmer for England?? And Harry Kane is no Messi,Neymar or Ronaldo that should play irrespective of form.He's world class but doesn't mean he's kept on the pitch when hes not delivering especially if a striker that can score is on the bench.

Because he's a senior International. Harry Kane is captain. Who said he is not delivering? Was he not Golden Boot winner at the last WC? Harry Kane is England's Messi and Ronaldo. Let Tammy Abraham bid his time. This is his first season in top flight Europe

Adiwana:
Tammy is in the form of his life right now and Harry Kane that most of his goals have been penalties so far and hasn't really been playing well played ahead of him.Well,it might be too early to judge but Tammy had no business coming on the time he came on at least considering the form he's in right now and state of the match at 1 - 1.You cannot be banging in goals as he is right now and the manager considers you only worthy when they are chasing the game

Harry Kane is England's most reliable penalty taker and Captain. A few goals against Wolves, Palace and Lille does not mean Tammy Abraham automatically is entitled a shirt. Will you let him complete a full season first?

Adiwana:
Unless he's going to be a Drogba and maintain that form and keep that goal in coming, then he may stand a chance.In 2 years time another guy will pop up.What then happens then if he loses fitness,form or his touch in front of goal??
Those players you mentioned have clearly passed their prime and Low is even planning on dropping Neuer.Its only natural that players irrespective of their previous achievements if not delivering are replaced.They are now rebuilding the team

He could be Drogba and he could be Heskey but for now bear in mind that he is only 22 and is still a JJC in the game.

If he loses fitness, form or touch then he forgets getting called up. Is he the first player that will lose his place in National Team. Even Nigeria as our level no too high reach e reach stage Taye Taiwo stop to dey see shirt after he left Marseille and joined Milan. If Abraham plays for Nigeria and loses form he would be bounced if we find a replacement. Didn't we replace Utaka, Nsofor and those boys when they fell on hard times?

Adiwana:
But he considers Euro and World Cup?? grin grin He's playing career already has 0 international titles.This is guaranteed because if he thinks he has more chances of winning either of the two ahead of Afcon,then he's dreaming

If Greece and Portugal can win an international title then are you Eledumare that can tell the future? Who told you Nigeria can win another AFCON within his playing career

Adiwana:
Why you dey talk like this?? You want to compare a potential world best striker's career to average players. Who said anything about his international career affecting his club career. Club and international careers are two parallel lines.That you are playing well for one doesn't mean it helps the other.Nobody is advocating for any mediocrity. Just talking from a football perspective,nothing more

I'm saying all the guys that got dropped for the respective countries were dropped because of their mediocrity. From Sidney Sam to Agbonlahor you cannot point to one player who was performing and getting overlooked. Why must we attach unnecessary sentiments to anything. Abraham might genuinely feel no connection to Nigeria and I'm sure if you were his relative you will not advice him to play for Nigeria

Adiwana:
He will get picked quite all right but will that be ahead of Kane that is the question especially if continues to score and improve as a player.And no am not hedging for anything.I already predicted before when he was called up that he would be thrown into games England are losing.He will only start against teams like San Marino and their likes.England will not go for a two striker system with him and Kane.Unless England will decide to go for a total rebuilding, am afraid this guy has no chance.
Again on the whole hedging for his loss of form,I said that if Tomori sustains what he has,he already has cemented his place in England as they are looking for a partner for Maguire and he looks like a perfect fit for that position.He will see more playing time and I doubt anybody will displace him for that position.It is just what it i

You're projecting too and unnecessarily far into the future. Let Abraham perform consistently and see if the English themselves will not advocate for him to enter the starting lineup.

If Abraham delivers for a campaign or two he would play. For now he is not experienced enough to lead the line for England. And if his form drops then even had he chosen Nigeria there is no guarantee he would see shirt after all where is Iheanacho today? Anichebe nko?

Ohh well at least a Verstappen DNF and potential Leclerc penalty would help Vettel into 3rd in the Driver's Championship.

This race is just one huge anticlimax

Vettel on pole at Suzuka. Didn't see that one coming

airmark:
So which bar served as the killshot in the viper?

I mean he took Vec to church nau haba

The crowd fund to pay rent and roasting in your B's BQ was pretty brutal.

Let's even forget the not putting anybody on part. Industry hard and a lot of rappers are on that table anyway

After all said and done though M.I's track was simply better.

airmark:
But he did this na, abi which version did you listen to?

I didn't say he didn't but he was vague. He didn't connect

airmark:
Pusha gave facts in his diss to Drake, which Drake couldn't rebut successfully. I could still spot like 5 punchlines from that track.

I just wanna know who had more punchlines, because Vec has more in my eyes.

I don't know if you watch MMA so I will give you another example. Did you watch Adesanya vs Whittaker last week?

Did you see round 1? Bobby Knuckles actually attempted double the number of Stylebender's strikes.

But even in that round at the end it was Stylebender that landed the killshot. This is the best way I can put this MI vs Vector thing

airmark:
What are your favourite punchlines in that viper track? I still believe Vector has better punchlines compared to MI. Only that dobale and bbq did it for me.

The part where he spat about fans egging him on to clapback but will they crowd fund him to help pay his rent?

Again it's not just the bars and punchlines. He told a story and it was in sequence. From start to finish it was a well crafted diss track.

Just like Story of Adidon where Pusha dissected Drake and soiled his image portraying him as a dead beat dad. I mean nobody even really knew Drake had a kid prior to that

If you listen closely to Drake's effort you could argue Drake had better lines but Pusha went at Drake's throat even trolling his sick friend. Diss track is not just about punchlines. It has to be coherent and coordinated

Look at this old man Shannon Sharpe hating on Zion. Ewwww.

His MCM 17 years in the league is a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft and he is talmbout he needs to see him shoot from elsewhere. Duhh he's a rookie, he's not supposed to be the finished article

Is he scared Zion is coming to steal all that shine?

airmark:
MI's tribute to Dagrin, is still on my laptop. Nobody has his appealing rap voice in that country, but lyrically i still rate Vec higher.

Please explain that chicken wings line to me. I see it as wack, maybe it's me being rusty.

Lool it's not about their appeal or what not. Vector can be very good too when he is not dropping his Vector will share like Jack bars. Jiji mo ji oh Baba gbo adura oh. I love that song as much as anything MI ever dropped.

Vector is quite talented

I don't understand the chicken wings line myself, all I know is that M.I with one take did better than Vector's multiple attempts and this for me was rather disappointing.

M.I is not compelled to take this beef beyond social media anymore because Vector did not drop what would require MI to renege and enter studio to reply

larride:
I said it here when it dropped that he was too defensive. While the track was dope with mad lines, he didn’t do enough for me.

He believe he should have gone deeper into the Abuja angle. I’m sure he could have roasted MI if he hit him with what he knows about what happened in Abuja.

You advertised your ass a lot/went to Abuja a lot
And came back with more money, let that story be that

Is he saying Judas is gay?

Lmaooooooo you want LGBTQIA++ people and their allies to join MI and attack Vector finally. If he overplay that angle it can even backfire

For me Vector did not hit M.I properly at all.

- I mean we all know he doesn't even own Choc City so a more coherent debunking of the #20m banter and claiming he gives platforms is a good way to start.

- He has a lot of lackeys around him wey never really blow, he can't pump that 20mil on them?

- Why did he apologize for dragging Jagz then still went ahead to drag him nonetheless. Pick a struggle

- He called Vector bitter and all but we have a lengthy list of ninjas that fell out from CC. So many stories he for fit unearth from that angle

He just sounded shook man. I've never heard anyone drop a diss record with no bass in their voice. And the flows were connecting and disconnecting. Alaye jorjorjor. WTF man

Adiwana:
Seriously?? Playing for England will guarantee something.lol

He's not winning anything with England.He's not displacing Harry Kane from that position. an inform Tammy will always be second choice to out of form Kane.England will drop him like a ball of fried akara once another new kid pops up in the block and if he so much as loses form.

Endorsements, negotiation clout. Besides playing for Nigeria does not guarantee he wins anything either. Up till 2013 Nigeria had not won a spoon in 19 years!!

No shame in being unable to displace Harry Kane. No out and out #9 not named Robert Lewandowski can do so in today's football.

Football is a form based business. In these streets you're only as good as your last transaction. If Löw could evict World Champions like Boateng, Müller and Hummels then I don't see why Abraham should not get dropped if he loses form.

Adiwana:
Nigeria with him and Tomori and a couple of chaps like Saka wouldve been an afcon contender with the current crop of players we have.A decent season will see him compete for African player of the year.That shirt in the national team is almost guaranteed for him.Nobody is dropping him for lack of form.The gain are endless

He might not care for an AFCON title. I'm sure he considered these things before switching to England

Ahmed Musa and Kenneth Omeruo are not getting dropped but how is it helping their club career? Leon Balogun nko? Why are you guys advocating for mediocrity

Adiwana:
Know that am not speaking from a position of Nigerian but strictly as a football fan.You can't deny theres more to be offered here football wise than there

One thing I know is Tammy Abraham will not ball and not get picked. You on the other hand are hedging for anticipated mediocre performances and loss of form. Who is to say he can't be the next Harry Kane for England? If he is good enough he would make it in England as well

airmark:
Eruditor or a40, analyse this line, biko.

If this guy is the best rapper in Naija, then there's problem.

Lmaooooooo I don't think MI is the best rapper in Nigeria. He makes better music though and this is coming from someone that likes Vector.

Vector came in with the battle rapper pedigree so I was expecting something Pusha T esque that would kill MI's will to even respond

After 6 days this just didn't do it for me

SmooshCHN:
It's like the world doesn't understand the Chinese people.
They all think in one direction. That's the only way they could have been what they are. You can't let 1.7billion people have democracy, free thought or free speech. It's a disaster. Morey, like the average American doesn't understand this. He thinks speaking freely about America has the same meaning to Chinese people. He is wrong. The Chinese people have grown up to believe that anything which threatens their government's position or power, unity or collective idea is a taboo. The thought or expression of the idea is not welcome anywhere around them. Call it being brainwashed, enslaved or whatever like many Americans call it. They don't care.
Morey should have minded his business. Americans should learn to mind their business as well and I hope Trump doesn't say something stupid. Obviously, the Chinese organizations and the people are overreacting with just one tweet but that's how a successful communist society will react when your idea is different from theirs. And they find if very disrespectful to think they are enslaved or need freedom like Morey and many people feel. They don't. For their population, they act more sane than most 'free' countries. Hong Kong is not Morey's or America's business.
Adam Silver did his best. I don't know why Americans are angry at him like they'll replace whatever money the NBA lost.
Now I can't watch NBA games after paying One Year VIP subscription just weeks ago and won't get a refund because of this nonsense.

You make a very strong argument.

birdman:
yeah, it will be <= 10 this time. no excuses o

Happy birthday in arrears Baba

SmooshCHN:
The NBA is losing money right now and nothing more. I don't see this going far however, their citizens are pretty much done with the NBA as long as Adam Silver continues to maintain his stance on freedom of speech. It's quite difficult to maintain relationships with the Chinese because of how fragile their ego is. Imagine just a tweet from one guy messing with the heads of over 1.6B people and ruining business. NBA can definitely do without China and it's best they do on the long run. Meanwhile, Adam Silver has done well not being political about the whole thing.

Lmaooooooo people thought Adam Silver is all about Freedom of speech and all that jazz.

He might genuinely be but people need to not get it twisted, it's always about the Geld first for the Commissioner I guess they fell for the packaging because of his non-authoritarian stance.

I don't know if they would like to lose China's market and money

Adiwana:
He would've been a lion in the street than a mouse in the jungle.Football politics,NFF bullshiit aside,Nigeria was a good choice if it was strictly football on the field.Playing for Nigeria would've given him all you listed above and more

If Abraham is exceptional he will play. Playing for Nigeria does not guarantee anything if you're not exceptional, especially at club level where his bread is actually buttered. Connecting flights from Lagos to Seychelles or Mauritius for an AFCON qualifier is pretty stressful

I'm happy my son is taller doesn't mean he won't doable.
Lool then Stylebender won and prostrated for his father the very next day

Roasting in your babes BQ.

As your head dey hot, got rid of nigga just like a weave.

Fans will demand that you revenge but will they crowd fund you when it's time to pay the rent

Not even top 5 from Yoruba land and ended it with CDQ.

My shares could help you feed your kids

This is for Airmark asking me about punchlines. Forget punchlines though. MI made the better diss record. No need for unnecessary salaye

Adiwana:
I observed that too.His rapping,subject matter and delivery were nice but it lacked energy and was sometimes all over the place.Don't think the beat was bad anyway.Lots of rap beef beats are mostly simple.You need beats that are so simple so that your message is passed across rather than one where your listeners are bumping more to the beat than what you say

Anyway,don't listen to Nigerian songs anymore but as a hiphop fan,this beef is very good for the culture and afro hiphop

It was just scattered and veered off tangent a lot. M.I's reply was more surgical with little to no filler

Seriously the beat was blehhh. Go and listen to Modenine's Coup De Grace or what Godwon used to finish Sinzu's career.

Better yet Ether and 2nd round T.K.O. The beat might be simple but has to be hard. Because that is the soup you will use to swallow the track

Many things dey wey Vector fit use enter M.I but he sounded too shook to even deliver it with any real conviction. I mean if you didn't know either guy and you listened to both tracks who would you think was 5'6

What happened to Vector in that clapback? He almost sounded afraid. No bass, nothing. I mean how do you do a diss track with that kind beat and rap. Where was the heat? I mean you did a song and tagged yourself King Kong I was expecting something gruff and energetic and a ninja that would thump his chest like a Silverback gorilla.

His lines were aight but all over the place. A harder beat, Dr Dre level delivery and better composition and he could have taken out M.I but alas

He has to take the L in this because I don't even see how M.I needs to respond