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afrodoc2:
Haba don’t rewrite history. I was the one who warned you repeatedly about Wilder’s power and you said AJ has equal if not greater punching power.

We all praised AJ and gave him props at different times, even Nihilist believed ( maybe still believes) he can beat Wilder.
Only ibime was completely anti-AJ.

Naah. We were on the same page. I know later on I started hyping AJ's power as well but I was never oblivious of Wilder's punching power. Shebi na me take my hand type this same thing as far back as 2017

airmark:

Winks is a bastard.

Kaka omo yen lasan.

Ibime:
He looks to be carrying too much muscle mass

Never been a fan of AJ. I hate pussïes who duck fights.

I'm glad his orchestrated "opponent picking" blew up in his face.

Look at him, losing to last minute replacement that was drafted in few weeks ago. SMH

Lool. And it's hurting his stamina. It's been like that since he fought Klitschko, I thought him dropping a few pounds would have helped but it seems to have worsened. Weird still even his jabs were not stiff and able to keep Ruiz at bay at all even with his reach advantage, Ruiz just kept coming forward

Lmaooo is it ducking fights or were the opponents not convinced they could beat AJ and tried to squeeze out the maximum $$$ possible. I think if you're the B-side and you believe you can beat AJ then you are open to bending to Hearn at his boys as you're playing the long game.

Ruiz took that fight for $6m at 4 weeks notice so I don't want to hear anything about the likes of Wilder who while fighting a fellow American cannot fill up Barclays Center has to say

airmark:
That was few weeks ago when I checked. It was as if I was dreaming.

I don't know what happened to Aj in that Miami camp.

E go dey carry olosho I think. His defense was wide open like Angela White. His poor cardio impeded his movement and after that 3rd round he was completely gassed and breathing via his mouth

Kai you for just close eye put $20

KarnThornheart:
Especially for someone like ortiz who will probably never see that kind of money. Its possible the drugs cycle rumor is true too. Makes sense.

Andy Ruiz took the fight with 4 weeks notice. Granted he is much younger but unless you're trying to flush PEDs out your cycle why turn down a guaranteed $7m regardless of the outcome.

People forget that the suprise element also works for the fill-in fighter

KarnThornheart:
And screw all the people saying Wilder is being classless. This is boxing, if you want class go watch croquet. And didnt joshua just say this a few days ago

"People have realised Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have been professional 11 years, yet in their whole career they were fighting cab drivers and bin men."

Hearn and his team have sh-t on wilder and his manager at any opportunity they could get. Their online minions have been harassing wilder calling him a duck and all sort of names. Now they want him to show class? LOL! Besides, he has every right to be pissed off that joshua just threw potentially the biggest heavyweight pay day ever down there drain for them.

I have zero issues with Wilder's rants. I have always felt AJ has lacked that edge and nastiness with that clean boy/gentleman spiel he is always up to. This is Heavyweight boxing ma nigga! And I was very happy with that trash talk on First Take. It's a pity he didn't back it up

On the other hand Wilder can go fck himself. He turned down good money for a chance at the belt. Maybe he would be Undisputed by now if he didn't let his ego get in the way

airmark:
Next time AJ has a fight and Drake shows up, I swear he will break his nose. I missed 30+ odds.

Hahahaha. E reach 30 odds? I was kicking myself on missing out on Serena I didn't know a bigger calamity was coming

Funny enough I was the one most worried about Wilder's KO power back then on the thread

Unlimited22:
LMAO. But the guy shaa, losing to someone with more body fat than I have.

Nihilist isn't an Aj fan, I think

Appearance looks deceiving. One thing these Mexicans usually have is heart. The guy was on the front foot from Round 1 and he kept cutting the ring on AJ. His stamina/cardio is actually fantastic for his size

nihilistjnr:
Bros look my face well.
I resemble AJ fan for your eye?

Don't deny AJ. I have receipts

KarnThornheart:
Yuup. Its obvious money matters most to these guys.

It's a damn shame. Even Luis Ortiz turned down $7m. He wanted $10m. Pray tell what's the difference between $7m and $10m

KarnThornheart:
Man, i sort of feel bad for him. Cant help but think of what could've been and what his fight with wilder would've done for boxing. But like wilder himself says, all the great heavyweights have lost, they've all been upset. Lennox-Rahman, Ali-Spinks, Tyson-Douglas. Like Roland said, this can be a wake up call or the beginning of the end.

That's why you make these fights when you have the chance. A Wilder-AJ fight now even if he regains the belts will never be the same. It's lost that mystique it would have had.

All the greats of old fought themselves without long stories. I don't know why these generation of boxers are so infatuated with the idea of an 0 to their record. Sugar Ray Robinson lost fights and he is still considered the GOAT.

This is why I love Evander Holyfield so much. He was a cruiserweight FFS and he fought everybody, and I mean everybody

AJ is just 29 going on 30. The Klitschko brothers lost to bums early in their career and still reached greatness. All boils down to his mental fortitude

sod09:
just see how people deny AJ since morning even ibime and afrodoc. Failure get plenty enemy sha

My brother failure na orphan ooh. Even Nihilistjnr own na him surprise me. If you see the way American Twitter just dey drag Joshua. He needs our support in this dark times not his brothers deserting him

afrodoc2:
Lol see your cousin. Femo disappoint us.

You called it sha, but to be fair i wasn't so much into the hype like A40 was.

I always knew his power wasn't the nuclear level that Wilder's was, but i didn't know that chin was so soft.
Butter soft chin our brother has got. When he got a taste of that Mexicano sauce he started wobbling like Grobbelaar.

Make we bone that level. Wilder had his chance to fight AJ but he and Shelly and Al Haymon were yarning megedefegede instead of accepting terms.

They even offered Wilder a 3 fight potential nine figure deal he refused. If e sure for you say you go beat person as a B-side you will take what they gave you as Ruiz did and got the benefits. Wilder was more scared of losing his only belt than unifying the other belts

airmark:


Winks is a bastard.

Thank God for Gender equality. If this is one of the benefits

nihilistjnr:
Omo the thing pain my old man gaan

We've had many heated arguments on whatsapp and around the dining table with me and our 1st born as anti-Joshua, and my dad and my immediate older brother as pro-josh.

This text sweet me die. Only say I no fit tackle my old man the same way I dey tackle niggas for here lol

Lmaooooo see as you dey deny your guy AJ like Simon Peter. Aye le oo ibosi oo

KarnThornheart:
Thats the thing, no one knew.

He definitely underrated him, when he got up from that penultimate knock down he was brash, thats not what you do in situations like this, you take the round off and regroup but he came out swinging because he probably felt embarrassed that a "can" was rag dolling him.

You cant not be sleek and not have a chin at the same time especially against Wilder. We'll see how the rematch goes though, hope he bounces back, really want to see him in a unification bout with Wilder.

I hope you didnt bet on this fight.

LOL Your man really lost to fluffy?

You're absolutely right. That's why I said he said all the right things but still felt he had the fight in the bag.

You bid your time, get your coordinates right and most importantly your legs under you. He wanted to try and score a knockout to erase the embarrassment of the knockdowns while not having the chin or cardio to do so

I don't know if I want to see him with Wilder at this point but stranger upsets have happened.

Lmaooo the return would be too paltry to bet on this type of fight. Besides after seeing Serena get sent packing at Roland Garros I wasn't doing any betting

KarnThornheart:
Speaking of Eddie, he had better hide cause hes the one people are gunning for right now the cunt. Fury was graceful, Deontay, not so much.

Shame on Deontay, Haymon and Hearn. Bigger shame on Deontay who shouldn't even be trolling but being pissed off at not being Undisputed by now. That's what I was saying earlier. If you know you can beat this dude you take their terms, Andy Ruiz just showed it.

Spare a thought for Jarrell Miller and Luis Ortiz.

afrodoc2:
I too chop L today sha.

I set alarm for UCL final cos Na 5am. The match no sweet, i no watch up to 90mins sef.
Go back to sleep, set alarm for AJ fight, AJ do me amaka.

Na that babe wey run enter pitch save that Champions League Final. That's how dead it was.

AJ really fumble chai. Sagamu Frank Bruno

KarnThornheart:
Joshua probably has a rematch clause but if he doesnt, i swear hes never going to even sniff those belts again. Ruiz, just like Wilder is managed and promoted by PBC. Though i guess even they would prefer Joshua to get the belts back for the money fight but i cant help but think Al Haymon is somewhere smiling right now.

Lool Eddie Hearn is not a bozo. There would be a rematch there somewhere

KarnThornheart:
LMAO I swear maybe its what you get before every fight but i may have seen this coming. I saw Ruiz hit the pads and thought to myself this guy can bang and he can move, almost came here to @ you that hes not a complete mug. But damn! Flex Mentallo probably has a rematch clause so we'll see how that goes. Credit to the fat man, first mexican heavyweight champ EVER! Over the last few days i've been impressed with how humble flex was, wasnt looking past Ruiz so i wont mock him. Those deluded brainless british boxing fans on the other hand...

How stupid must Jarrell Miller be feeling now like so I could have beaten this dude without juicing.

I recall you mocking this ninja when the fight was announced. If only you knew

His hand speed is insane for a heavy and he kept moving forward. Showed zero fear like Mexicans usually do. I think he had the first two rounds even before everything went belly up in the third.

I don't think AJ did it outwardly but on the inside it kind of felt he underrated Ruiz..

A rematch clause for the reigning champ is a no-brainer but AJ needs a lot of work. Really showed he couldn't take a hit and looked gassed by the 3rd/4th

afrodoc2:
I watched the Povetkin fight this morning.
He started sluggishly and then got better. He also started sluggishly in this one too, and I would agree with you he lost the 1st 2 rounds too.

However starting sluggishly and losing rounds 1 and 2 have to do with sharpness and not cardio.
Why would you get exhausted in Rd 1?

He was sluggish because his brain was muddled up. Lol
Ruiz reset his brain stem.

I get what you mean. I'm saying his cardio gave him zero chance to get back into the fight. If you put a guy down by the 3rd round and rather than being able to go for the kill you end up being put down yourself then it still boils down to your stamina

Whether your chin is made from Adamantium if you've started breathing by your mouth by Round 4 what are your odds of escaping more punishment. The referee could have allowed the fight continue after those Round 7 knockdowns but at what cost?

By that point it was a matter of when not if Ruiz would win

afrodoc2:
Very disappointing. He obviously underestimated Ruiz, and of course he paid the iron price.

That would be unfortunate. One recurring theme about Ruiz was his hand speed and I saw it tonight. His punching power I won't say is exceptional but he moves forward and is a very fast puncher for a Heavyweight

afrodoc2:
We will have to agree to disagree. You think it was more cardio it seems, and I think it was more chin.

If it was round 8 or beyond maybe one can say more of cardio, not 1st 4 rounds after scoring a knockdown yourself.
A glass jaw is what it is.

Go and watch the Povetkin fight again. I'm telling you what I observed from his previous fight as well. He was slow and lethargic and in this fight too he lacked the sharpness to even get at Ruiz after knocking him down.

It speaks to how sluggish he was that he could not evade Ruiz and was essentially a sitting duck the final 4 rounds. It was watching a car crash in slow motion. Bear in mind he lost the first two rounds if you ask me

I haven't said AJ didn't have a glass chin so I'm not arguing that

afrodoc2:
Fair point. The guy has been exposed. No chin, no stamina and he is fighting amongst giants.

The only way out for him is to work on his defence and learn how to avoid flush hits, cos he can’t face Wilder with that glass jaw.

Naah make e no near Wilder at this point. E go die

afrodoc2:
He had enough cardio to knock Ruiz down and go for the kill himself. It was after Ruiz knocked him down that he started wobbling all over the place like Osuofia in a 1990s Nollywood movie.

Oga that's not the point. This is Heavyweight level and everybody gets hit! I've seen AJ deal with worse hits. My point is he looked gassed even before the hit. His rubbish cardio was why he couldn't get past being hit and had zero chance of getting into the fight

afrodoc2:
You obviously didn’t read what I typed.

We all know he has suspect cardio. That he has poor stamina is not news.

But what does suspect cardio have to do with wobbling in round 4, 5 after getting hit. It was all about his chin.
Mind you Round 1-3 they were mainly hugging and exchanging few jabs.

Joshua can’t take a punch. His chin did him in, not his stamina.

I agreed his chin was suspect hell I even called him Sagamu Frank Bruno but I said his cardio also played a role.

He could barely move around the ring after the first hit. If it was only his chin that was the issue he wouldn't get up that many times. My point is his bad cardio meant he couldn't defend himself he couldn't hit Ruiz nor could he get out of the way.

afrodoc2:
See as the guy disgrace Nigeria. Go carry Naija flag embarrass us.

Nihilist come see your cousin o.

Na why I hate to dey debate with sentiment. Kai see as this guy just fall my hand

afrodoc2:
Cardio can’t be suspect in Round 4 of a slow paced match. Was he training on burgers?

We all know AJ has suspect cardio but this was all about a very suspect chin.

And like I always said Wilder has more knockout power. That one should not be an argument again.

Lool guy AJ has a suspect cardio. It's not this fight e start. He got away with it in the Povetkin fight and the Klitschko fight but credit to Ruiz he stayed on his asssss like a rash

When you start breathing via your mouth by round 3 you will definitely not be coordinated to absorb blows and get your legs under you

Opin Cinema

afrodoc2:
I told you guys then that AJ does not have Wilder’s single punch power.
And now we can finally confirm that AJ has a suspect chin.

It's not even punch power. What AJ lacks is stamina and the chin. He actually caught Ruiz that first time but got his angles horribly wrong.

AJ is capable of hitting much harder than this. His cardio is suspect. By the 3rd he was already breathing via his mouth

Lmaooooo Deontay Wilder will just be laughing. Chai Sagamu Frank Bruno

KarnThornheart:
Yuup. But still a great fight. Improvement on the farces the heavyweights have been putting on recently. And look at the bigger picture, PBC and Top Rank working together, gives hope for Spence Crawford.

Lmaooooo Anthony Joshua na scam sha. Hahahaha Deontay will kill this man