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ZenHallewell:
These were your exact words. In other words names on the team sheet dont mean they'll succeed. The warriors were already established. Did i mention he blew a 3-1 lead against them? The warriors won without him and still do.

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Not when those names are 3 top 20 players in the league in their athletic primes

The Warriors won without him but still needed him to win same way Miami won without Ray Allen but still recruited him to win some more. KD joined them and became their best player not just another passenger

ZenHallewell:
If kawhi/kyrie and AD come i hope he stays, if only one does i hope he goes to NY or the clippers. Either way, the warriors are winning their last ring this year.

I would be worried if LeNomad was 26 not 35. It will end in tears for y'all

ZenHallewell:
Bledsoe was a huge part of their success in the regular season, hes one of their most important players. Suddenly they should fling all of that out of the window? Suddenly bledsoe cant play basketball when they wouldnt be here without him? LOL! All players have slumps, until they dont anymore. He played well against the pistons, he will bounce back. I'm not about to just call quits on someones career all because hes facing something most superstars in the NBA face every single year especially someone whose offense alone doesnt define him and plays both ends of the game.

Let's not overblow Bledsoe's importance. He was a third wheel at best. That one is neither here nor there because I don't consider Bledsoe among the league's elite.

However there is a floor level that any credible PG is supposed to be at. Bledsoe has not even been there. Same Bledsoe was embarrassed by Terry Rozier in last season's playoffs.

Lol don't bring up the Detroit series. That was a bye

Against Boston Bledsoe shat the bed and he is shittin it some more in this ECF. I've told you that he is such a liability offensively that his minutes dropped to a series low of 20 last night. Who is Bledsoe shutting down in this series?? He's almost literally a short 1 on the court

darkelf:
Peyton manning without a doubt

Peyton Manning was a regular season merchant. He's not as good as Montana never mind Tom Brady the GOAT

ZenHallewell:
They also swept a 60 win raptor team who were the favorites in the semis who bar lebron add any other superstar in the league to that cavs team and they would have beaten them, the pacers too. Barely a playoffs team with any other superstar in the league bar lebron that cavs team so...

I'm glad you're able to admit that, no need for "buts"

This is why some of us are so happy when we see LeNomad and his teams fail.

Kevin Love averaged 20 points and 11 rebounds in that series. Kevin Love outscored the best player on the Raptors FFS

4 other Cavs scored in double digits. 4!!

I swear there are no perks to playing with LeNomad. If you win no credit, if you lose all the blame. No self respecting star ought to play with him walahi

ZenHallewell:
Dont move the goal post, you asked for another team with 3 allstars and i gave you one. And i dont think pierce made the allstar team, rondo did.

I just reminded you of their age. Don't be defensive. Paul Pierce made all-star team

ZenHallewell:
People like barkley who came out to destroy lebron for joining the heat came out to discuss the parallels and rightfully so. Its one thing creating a super team, GMs do that all the time why not players? But what KD did is just too abhorrent. Like i said, he couldve teamed up with as many superstars as he wanted somewhere else and few people will bat an eye.

My point exactly. If what LeNomad did was perfect nobody would bash him at all.

I am not here to justify what KD did same way I didn't antagonize LeNomad when he bolted to Miami. I don't care. Domination is the name of the game not parity

ZenHallewell:
I'm sorry have you heard of Dan Gilbert? Put his legacy and trust in that mans hands? LOL! If it wasnt the celtics it wouldve been some other team with a more competent front office. 7 years and the best they could give him was mo williams? SMH!

Blame it on geography and the terrain at the time. Big player movements were not as frequent then as it is now.

ZenHallewell:
It worked out for MJ but how did it work out for malone barkley and co? when they finally did try to win it was too late for them.

That's my point. Why should LeNomad be the only one entitled to leave their undesirable situations. Don't tell me LeNomad's reason to leave was righteous. I'm not trying to hear that

ZenHallewell:
Yeah it will, at the age of 50 maybe. Not now.

You have been warned

ZenHallewell:
Yeah ADs injury may be an issue. But thats a hypothetical, a laker team of lebron kyrie and AD I repeat will rape the whole NBA with no lube.


Theres also the knicks if Cali is really that important to him. But right now the Knicks are the perfect fit.

A Laker team of LeNomad, Kyrie and AD would not get past this present Warriors team.

The Knicks are a mess. would rather go the Clippers or the Nets than that overrated franchise the Knicks

ZenHallewell:
Yeah tomorrow. But i'm saying some players play below expectations sometimes. Bledsoe has never been a great shooter, nor has he ever been a great scorer hes always been a reliable stable PG who is also a great defender. You'll soon understand why the law of averages may only apply in the NBA. Ohh and first team all defense man, put some respect on his name. Those muscles arent completely useless.

Bledsoe plays below expectations everytime. Last year he was outplayed by a backup.

This year he played rubbish against the same team and they only advanced because Kyrie was arguably worse.

The Conference Finals are here and he's been an absolute pile of self-service. This deep in the Bucks run we cannot point to 1 game and say Milwaukee won because of Bledsoe. His minutes per game are now dropping because he is so rubbish at his primary job that even his defense does not justify him being on the floor.

When he improves I will give him his due but for now he sucks

steady986:
Exactly, that is a team that needed help, and not GS

Who made you judge to set that parameter. A team adding KG and Ray Allen had nowhere to go but up.

If the Cavs could recruit KD they would, after all they tried to get Paul George. The game is the game

smoosh20:
You'd make a great father with your patience I swear as you keep answering this guy and his elder brother here hoping they might learn someday. Cos I swear I won't even bother answering this regurgitated crap everytime.


[s]"LeBron case is different because he joined the Heat with Bosh he didn't blow a 3-1 to them and they didn't have a 73-9 record. "[/s]
Like Kevin Wayne Durant was supposed to ask one Sheikh on NL who had kunu for iftar what team is ok for him sign? He did what free agents have the right to do. How hard is it to stop riding another man's shaft and let KD be?

Don't mind these hypocrites. LeNomad is the only player allowed to recruit all-star help and openly team up with all-stars in their primes but other teams are not allowed to do so. What a load of fuckery

ZenHallewell:
You've claimed many times before that stars dont make teams. The 2007 nets you disregard, or carmelo and amaare. You've said many times that sometimes they bomb, why backtrack on that now? cause its against your argument? The warriors on the other hand we already knew were a 73 win final team at least. Stop being disingenuous.

Why won't I disregard the Nets with a 34 year old Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson with 0 all-star appearance. Nobody expected them to win anything

Now compare that to a team that even at their unveiling by themselves guaranteed at least 4 Championships. Claiming that the Heat were anything but favorites to dominate the league is megedefegede and you know it

LeNomad was a back to back league MVP, Dwyane Wade a Finals MVP and Bosh dragged a rubbish Toronto team to the playoffs.

ZenHallewell:
Well he made his bed, he should sleep in it. He did whats best for him but screws the whole league? Fine! But how about he should stop b-tching when people tell him how soft his move was. If whats best for him means no one actually respects him or his plastic rings then he should be able to live with people telling him that.

My only issue with KD is the fact that he even cares about what anyone has to say. He lacks the Mamba mentality and it's heartbreaking to see cos he's Kevin Durant and he shouldn't give a shyte. After all there are people who don't believe Tom Brady is the GOAT QB and is a product of Belichick's system so what can KD prove.

I initially wanted KD leaving Golden State this summer but now more than ever I want him to stay so people can keep crying and complaining while the rings keep coming

steady986:
The Heat didn't win 73 game the previous season and didn't go to the finals the previous two years.

Nobody cares if they went 0-82 and missed the last 10 playoffs.

When the Celtics Big Three formed they were 16-66 yet everyone knew they were going to be a problem

Roland17:
I get tired of that false narrative especially when we know the truth and how things transpired. I will agree that KD and the Warriors needed each other but I will not entertain the argument that KD needed the Warriors more than they needed him, irrespective of how many championships he wins with them. If KD joined the Celtics and won the championship people will still be mad and argue he joined a team that was already established in the East.

Lol the way I see it Super teams started with

Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler (later Pippen)

Old (mid 30's) relatively past their prime greats on the wrong side of 30

Lakers Malone, Shaq, Kobe Payton

2 of the 4 were on fumes

KG, Allen, Pierce. (2007-2012)

Just nearing the end of their prime early 30's

LeBron, Wade, Bosh

Super team formed with all 3 at their athletic primes 28 and younger

Golden State

You can see the evolution. Just like from the first Android to Android Pie.

It's just that human beings by nature are full of double standards and hypocritical. Everyone tried to beat the system one way or the other. One team just took it to the next level

ZenHallewell:
Mind you, Lebron and wade considered not signing up in miami but in new york or chicago as well. Wasnt just about the organization.

I've always said i dont have a problem with the warriors going after him, i have a problem with him joining them.

Does it matter if they went to Tennessee? A team with Wade, LeNomad and Chris Bosh combining what will the expected outcome be? No need to split hairs

Why and who is the judge of what's best for KD? The onus is on the rest of the league to find a way to stop the Warriors not for KD and the Warriors to care about how they are perceived. Why did Sir Alex go on to sign Golden Boot winner Robin Van Persie? Everyone is trying to destroy opposition any which way. This is not a morality business

steady986:
Don't you get it? The heat needed him more than he needed them. Unlike KD who needed GS more than they needed him

The Heat needed him but he ran there. Who had a Championship title before LeNomad joined them LeNomad or the Heat?

KD needed GS but they flew their entire squad to the Hamptons to recruit him. Abeg make I hear word

ZenHallewell:
A40 Chic2pimp


Exhibit A. I wont say anything else until after the bucks play today. Mark me, he'll make you swallow your words. Many superstars have had bad playoff series before doesnt automatically make them bums. Curry played like a bum for certain stretches in this playoffs, didnt hear you lot calling for his head on a pike. Leave the man alone.

The Bucks aren't playing today.

Eric Bledsoe is straight trash homie! I didn't make my assessment off of one series.

Steph Curry has never played as poorly as Eric friggin Bledsoe.

This nigga is averaging 8pts per game on 24% shooting!!! WTF??

steady986:
Which isn't unusual.

Then you should have had LeNomad stay with the Cavs and not join the Heat when he did then let's see how many Finals he would have gotten to

ZenHallewell:
Granted the heat were better than most eastern teams but the most competitive teams are from the west. Like i said the only constant about finals teams from 2011 to 2018 is lebron james, No one in the east had an answer for him and i guess that may have hurt his legacy to an an extent because he faced superior western teams in the finals hence the finals record. Add lebron to any eastern contender, the result would have been the same, he skewed the scales, he tipped the balance in the east.

So when we decry the level of competition why do you lot keep arguing? Just last year they beat a team led by a rookie to get to the Finals. Of course the streak itself is remarkable but the caliber of competition in the East was dodgy and that's just the bitter truth.

ZenHallewell:
I'm really glad you caught yourself here, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen and KG all from the celtics made the all star game. PS The celtics were in the east.

Ray Allen - 36
Kevin Garnett - 35
Paul Pierce - 34

ZenHallewell:
You just claimed their moves were the same even though they couldnt be further apart, if you can arbitrate so badly, I am well within my rights to chime in.

That's my point. It depends on who you ask. The guys that stuck with bad teams till they became great (Hakeem, Dirk, Lillard, Reggie, Ewing) will see LeNomad and co in the same light that Bronsexuals see KD.

Who are you to judge?

ZenHallewell:
Your argument here totally missed the point. You are dancing away form the real point here. You claimed lebron and KDs move were the same, how are they the same? Lebron formed a team to try and compete. Another joined an already formed team that beat him BTW after he went 3-1 up against them and choked. A team that was already bullying the league and you join up to bully others instead of figuring out how to beat them or form a team that can? By any competitive standard that is super weak. Its the classic you cant beat them you join them move that weaklings are known to make.

Taaaa! LeNomad ran into a Celtics brickwall in the 7th year of his career. Why didn't he stay the course and keep trying to take them down? They were aging and LeNomad was entering his athletic prime.

To try and compete? Lmaoo! I would understand if the Celtics were a young stacked team but they were old as hell and already on their last legs so I'm not buying that excuse

The GOAT didn't run from Chicago after losing 3 straight years to the Bad boy Pistons. He kept fighting till he swept them and sent them to early retirement

Why will I witness that then praise LeNomad for crewing up with two top 20 players in the league (one in the top 10) and castigate KD based off semantics? They both bolted their teams for greener pastures

And need I remind you that 73 win team recruited KD. Blame Golden State not KD

ZenHallewell:
I remember as recently as 2018 when you lot claimed father time came for him. Or when he had back issues in miami and you lot claimed the same. Only he came back and put up legendary performances and remains on top till this day!

LeNomad's decline will be swift and brutal. Don't say I didn't warn you.

ZenHallewell:
LOOOOOL! If the lakers get AD and Kyrie, i repeat, the lakers will beat the warriors so bad, including kevin durant that oakland will be annexed to mexico. Just add some 3 and D players to that and the west will become "weak" just like you lot claim the east was weak.

If the Lakers get AD and Kyrie they will still catch that L. I'm praying the Lakers trade their entire young core for injury prone AD and Kyrie and a LeNomad who is staring down the barrel of Father Time's revolver. You will rant more next season than you did this season

ZenHallewell:
NOOOPE! Another common misconception, business can be handled anywhere. Space jam can be filmed in a few weeks during summer. Business played a role, but the major factor was his family. Bronny Jr especially who he wanted to come to a competitive basketball school in LA. A lot of players without charisma sell merchandise just by virtue of being the star players in huge markets, charisma has nothing to do with it. Embiid Butler and Simmons are top 10 in jersey sales, thats market power, not just charisma. Only the warriors have two players in the top 10.

Selling a few more jerseys does nothing for KD's bottom line. KD has said it himself that since joining the Warriors there are numerous opportunities he would never have known about if he was still in Oklahoma. Besides NY is a financial hub not a tech one which KD seems to be more interested in dabbling into

steady986:
How many players went to 4 straight finals before they turned 26?

So why are you asking me Jamb Questions? All I know is that in his 7 years in the League, he only made 1 Finals appearance previously. Whether he was 26,36 or 46 that one no concern me

steady986:
Did LeBron make them reach 4 straight finals or did they make 4 finals before LeBron joined them, I'm confused

How many straight Finals did LeNomad get to before joining the Heat?

ZenHallewell:
How did he ruin the league when there were so many other good teams better or on par with them? Did the heat win 73 games and go to the finals when he signed? did the heat have the years MVP? LOL!

Better than the Heat? Lol this is a bad joke. Between 2010-2014 the Heat were the winningest team in the League. No? In the East the Heat's competition was Derrick Rose and Luol Deng then subsequently baby Paul George and Roy Hibbert

By virtue of their 4 straight Finals they were the best team in the league bar none. LeNomad was the reigning MVP and teleported to join 2 other top 15 or 20 players in the league at the time. Pound for pound it was the same thing

Name one team that year that had 3 All-stars beside the Miami Heat

ZenHallewell:
This literally makes no sense whatsoever. The same move? LMAO! Did lebron join the orlando magic or celtics? no, he tried to beat them. When lebron choked against dallas did he go join them the year after or made sure he went all the way the next year? What payback? that lebron had a decent team around him for once? LOL! Like i said, zero sense. If KD had joined the wizards and teamed up with wall and another star i wouldnt blame him, or joined any other team for that matter. This guy had a 3-1 lead against this team, choked and then joined them the year later after they won 73 games and came back from the finals. Thats the weakest move any superstar has ever pulled in the history of the NBA.

Who appointed you Judge and Jury of the NBA to arbitrate which move was worse than the other?

You're legit the one not making sense. Why would LeNomad join the teams whose best 3 players are at an average age of 35 even if they beat him?

Or the Magic who had just Dwight and Lewis when you can link up with two of the top 5 players in your draft who so happens to be among the top 15/20 players in the league?

What would be left of the league if everyone left their undesirable situations. If Dirk had left Dallas, if Hakeem left Houston, Reggie left Indy, Lillard left Portland. The players that stayed with their franchise through thick and thin do they have two heads??

Keep the same energy at all times. What is good for the Jews should be good for Uganda

ZenHallewell:
Like i always say, if the lakers can get kawhi/kyrie and then get AD? LOOOL! KD can stay. Lets see how he does against a good lebron team, lets see how the rest of the warriors will do against this team. All people are saying is he should prove he can carry a team so why will people hate on him if he wins with the suns? If the lakers can get one superstar i hope he leaves, if they can get a FA and AD, i pray he stays so lebron can whoop his candy as-.

You're hilarious. It would take LeNomad a miracle to win one more ring. Especially this 35 year old version who is staring down the barrel of Father Time

If prime LeNomad who played both ends with the Heatles went 2 of 4 then you're in for spectacular disappointment if you think he would fare better even if they added AD and Kyrie alone

ZenHallewell:
NY is a huge market where he will not be second fiddle to Steph so he will sell more jerseys and shoes, will be revered more by the fans and seen universally as the savior of the wretched knicks. As far as other businesses, he can run them from anywhere this is the 21st century.

Why did LeNomad come to LA? Aren't we in the 21st century? He could have gone anywhere else. KD does not have the star power of Steph or LeNomad. The charisma is not there so forget about ever outselling those two.

KarnThornheart:
Okay this Bledsoe slander has to stop. Man has a bad series and suddenly he's cancer? Lol! He'll bounce back. Bledsoe may not be the best shooting or scoring point guard but he's solid and an amazing defended too. He just needs to step up.

Did he have a good series vs Boston? But for Kyrie matching him brick for brick and George Hill stepping up they would have lost that series.

This series he is shooting 11/45 from the field. His floor level as a PG is too poor for a team trying to win a Championship. How do you survive a potential matchup with Steph when your defense does not even justify you being left on the court because you're such a black hole offensively.

ZenHallewell:
I have nothing against Curry or Iggy or Klay or the donkey, i know they're lebrons b-tches, KD too but it just sucks that this dweeb joined the warriors and now he thinks hes all that, LOL! There hasnt been an NBA champion since 2016 so I'm not as mad as i would be if the warriors as they were had come back to beat the cavs twice. KD ruined the league, and hes a punk for that, hes an even bigger punk if he doesnt rectify that mistake. i dont have a problem with the warriors core.


And you really think lebron is out of the title picture? LOL! You're in for a rude awakening.

LeNomad also ruined the league when he joined up with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh and for the first time in league history we saw 3 stars in their athletic primes come together. You can imagine how crestfallen the rest of the league was, wondering who would save us from not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 titles that that alliance of evil threatened to win.

Payback is really a muthaphucka and I'm immensely satisfied that LeNomad is the worst affected from that move same way he tried to ruin league parity back in 2010. Ojoro cancel ojoro

As for KD the only reason I would want for him to leave the Warriors is if he really wanted to leave for himself or because the Warriors made it untenable for him to stay. Overwhelmingly loud Bronsexuals will not stop hating KD even if he won a Championship leading the Phoenix Suns so proving anything to them is a waste of time. He would probably never be included in the GOAT discussion so what would his leaving prove to anybody.

From a business standpoint leaving arguably the richest region of North America makes even less sense

Roland17:
Nice prediction there. I watched the final game and it was typical Blues on display. They pounded and bullied the Sharks into submission basically. They seem highly motivated to bring Stanley to St Louis but I can’t support them na! We are serious rivals in the central division so I am going Bruins. The Bruins have a strong power play, the best goaltender(Rask) in this year’s and playoff and a very deep bench.

Soon as I heard Karlsson and Hertl were not playing I knew their goose was cooked. Also that Sharks team had been benefiting from ojoro even before this round. Their luck had run out. It sucks for Jumbo Joe as he might never win a Cup

The team with the best chance of beating the Bruins would have been the Lightning but they are already out, That Blues team reminds me of LA Kings in 2012. Bruins are favorites no doubt but the Blues have a solid goaltender as well, though not on Tuuka Rask level.

Marchand, Bergeron, Pasternak and Krejci are elite forwards but I think the Blues have even more forward depth even down to their 4th line. I have not forgiven my team's GM Jim Rutherford for trading Oskar Sundqvist for that outdated hockey goon Ryan Reaves

This tie is too close to call.

chic2pimp:
Bruhhhh He just signed a new contract so He'll be there for the forseeable future. Plus no team with playoff ambitions will take His contract.

Doesn't have to be. Could be to a tanking team. His yearly average is under $20mil. Decent in today's NBA. As he ages and the small athleticism he has diminishes he would get even worse

ZenHallewell:
After they flew to the Hamptons to cry to KD? LOL 2016 will always haunt the warriors, its their marquee season/currys too and they bottled it all thanks to king james. Thats why their fans are still obsessed with him.

And mark me, they are about to blow that 3-1 playoff lead.

Of course the way and manner of the loss will sting somewhat. I'm still mad about how we lost to United in 1999 but we knocked them out 3 times since then so it's all good.

I bet Bronsexuals are madder at KD than Curry fans are mad at LeNomad. That's why they are attacking KD both on print and social media.

Your man's is out of the title picture. It's better you wake up and smell the roses. Anthony Davis, Baron Davis, Viola Davis. No more titles for LeNomad

KarnThornheart:
,

Finals H2H 3-1 including a sweep. I'm sure he's moved on from one weakside block

A40:
Even the 3-1 lead that is seemingly unassailable gets frequently overturned like we saw with the Knights and the Sharks. Winning the President's Cup is almost the kiss of death. I think the Blackhawks and Red Wings are the only two teams in 20 years who have won that and won the Cup

After this first round I find it really difficult to predict a certain team winning it all. The teams are ridiculously evenly matched. However I'd go for a Bruins vs Blues Stanley Cup Finals

40stradamus strikes again

Cc @Roland17

Anybody that put money on these spoilers would be laughing to the bank today like I am

KarnThornheart:
Did anyone see what Iguodala said about Steph?

Lool I caught the part where he correctly identified the GOAT

Roland17:
E. Bledsoe go hear am from @A40 today.

I know a wasteman when I see one. The Bucks better trade Eric Bledsoe. He's their Harrison Barnes

donlittle25:
Nigga got the Batman logo on his head. You hate to see it

E say Batman

etidy:
And who says Durant is not feeding of the hate? He's about to be 3 time finals MVP, showing up when it counts.
Kobe who went on social media to try and insert himself in the Goat conversation is not sensitive?

All ultracompetive guys are sensitive, but as long as its not disrupting your performance on the court it doesn't matter.

Imagine Jordan who keeps newspapers carrying headlines that slander him in order to motivate himself facing Twitter and social media scrutiny. If that's not sensitive then I don't know what is

Lool being interviewed on TV and saying you're the GOAT is different from opening multiple burner accounts to interact with nobodies.

KD is on Twitter and Instagram responding to people with 23 followers, entering reporters DM responding even in instances where he was not actually attacked.

When it comes to sensitivity KD is king abeg. Let's not overflog this thing.

Documenting slights is different from responding to every reporter every social media user for goodness sakes. How can a guy like KD have time to create burner accounts. You're KD FFS

ZenHallewell:
Whose mans is this ?

Millenials gon Millennial.

Who didn't know baggy suits and parachute pants was what was in the 90's and noughties.

Pree your man's in white

ZenHallewell:
Yeah until he gets her killed. Like he got his dad killed.

May God forgive you. Jordan is the richest basketball player ever, if his gambling was such an issue he would be struggling financially not worth over $1.3bn

ZenHallewell:
LOOOOOL!

An excerpt from the article

"James was Michael, without the disrespect for gravity. He was just as bald, charming, cocky, and effortlessly glib. He was not just Michael's dad but his best friend and business partner. He appeared with Michael in a likably naughty Hanes underwear commercial."

https://journaltimes.com/news/dad-s-death-is-cruelest-way-to-make-michael-pay/article_babbd292-0b3c-55c3-81ec-90ac4fc62bef.html

Journal times?? Any cyber Muppet can create any conspiracy theory. It's despicable that people stoop this low to bring out this kind of lie out of their buttholes.