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kokaneprodigy:
are you saying the penalty ain’t necessary?

That was not a penalty. Even Mercedes apologists were in unison about that. If that happened to Ham there would be no case

airmark:
Vvd won it as the official motm and Liverpool will never disgrace him when his time is up, the way Boathand has been disgraced.

He is not a legend, he is no Ribery, Robben or Lahm.

Legend ko Orijin ni. Go and apply to UEFA and FIFA to strip his medals because he was 'disgraced'

hensben:
Good you named three players dragging Liverpool to ucl semi and final. Who is helping Hazard to drag Chelsea to ucl?

When was the last time Hazard scored from open play in the Knockout stage. Na pikin wey open hand them dey carry. Let Shakushaku do his part then we would see whether he is lacking help or not. How do you help someone with 4 goals from open play in the Champions League after 7 years in Chelsea

Chelseafan1:
I was wondering why he didn't see that the joke was on him.

A40, u claimed Origi is better than Hazard cos he scored in the UCL final

That means you're also implying that Origi is better than Lewandowski

Joke is on u bro.

If I say Origi is better than Hazard common sense should tell you I am trolling Hazard and his lack of performances at the big stage now if you think the best way you can retort or clapback is by dragging Lewandowski into it, I would still give you sliding tackle by showing you Hazard has not performed whether at Semi-Final or Finals level.

Any angle you try to spin it the joke is actually on you. Hidden Shakushaku is one of the few highly players who played for a big club for 7 years and failed to get past the CL semis.

airmark:
You are unconsciously making a mockery of your earlier post, using goals in final or semifinal to rate players. Shame on you.

Maifren take several seats. Under whatever guise your colleague used to respond to whatever I posted I am also responding in kind so I don't know why you're being emotional.

Lewandowski, Origi, Salah, Mane have all performed both at Semi-Final and Final stages of major international competitions. Hidden Shakushaku has not done so. EOD

Segedinho:
Worldcup >>>>>>>> UCL

Giroud >>>>>>>>> messI

Have you seen me advocating for Messi on this forum? Wetin concern me?

SkimpleD:
Hahaha

Gbas Gbos. What's good for the Jews should be good for Uganda

FIA might as well hand Hamilton the title and save everyone the stress. I hope they are enjoying a season that is already over by Race 7

Trophy BoaTANK won at 24. Yeye dey smell

Zab Judah. Smh! How low must the money be that you're still fighting at 43

airmark:
Origi >>>>>>>>>>>> Lewandowski

No problem.

Shaqiri >>>>> Hazard

afrodoc2:
No leg work?

25 Zanku elese jabata

Greatihex:
fixed.

Mane - 2 CL Semi-Final goals 1 Final Goal
Origi - 2 CL Semi-Final goals 1 Final Goal
Salah - 2 CL Semi-Final goals

Back to back CL Finals. And could have been back to back Champions but for a calamitous goaliemepon like Karius

On the other hand

Hidden Shakushaku - 0 goals 0 assists, 100 takeons, 50 twerks and 25 Zankus

steady986:
No. Unlike KD.

Your MCM started this trend. KD only perfected it

steady986:
Well, I don't know of another player who did that, or even has the power to do that

We all know who wanted half their roster gone midseason

Greatihex:
you mean the only trophy they have that Origi dragged them to?

You're still dragging Hazard if you don't know. It's a bigger shame to Hazard that small small boys like Mane, Salah and Origi are dragging Liverpool to CL trophy something Hidden Shakushaku never achieved

Mane - CL Final and Semifinals Goal
Origi - CL Final and Semifinals Goal
Salah - CL Semifinals Goal

Hidden Shakushaku - Phhhhbbbbbtttt

Ibime:
You've always been known to be a daydreamer. Later you will type nonsense due to unrealistic expectations. Spurs manager will not leave Spurs to join Chelsea, neither will Chelsea pay £40m to release him from his contract, same reason Juventus decided he's too expensive.

Come season end, I expect you to type your usual brainless drivel about how you advised Chelsea to go for Poch but they didn't listen.

Same way you told us couple months ago that Chelsea board will be stupid to sell Hazard despite the writing on the wall.

Your myopic way of thinking gives rational people headache. It is because of people like you they coined the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

Dracarys

KarnThornheart:
So he should come back after missing 17 games and start firing on all cylinders even with injuries to pivotal players. So what if you were talking about the bucks?

Then he should have stayed injured. Enough with these watery excuses! He played enough games to get the Lakers in the playoffs. His numbers were mostly similar pre and post injury

KarnThornheart:
This is what you posted.


And this is what i posted.

You see what your problem is? You make dumb arguments and stick to them by either moving the goal post or making even dumber arguments.


I am literally done with this clown. This dude will literally deny the warriors dont have a bench to make a point about lebron.


LOOOOL! Clown license reinstated.

Your problem is your comprehension skills are rubbish and armed with a GPS and two hands you couldn't locate your arse.

I used the Bucks as an example to show that having a great bench guarantees zilch, so your argument is LAWMA material at best. I then used Game 2 to suggest that the Warriors bench is not great but when you have Steph,Klay, Iggy, Draymond, Boogie and can still roll out bodies from your bench that can contribute to a road win then that bench is not as bad as it's been advertised. Either way I doubt the rest of the league is sympathetic to their 'lack of a bench'

And then you have the nerve to talk about me denying the Warriors don't have a bench just to discredit your MCM when their opponents can only boast of Serge Ibaka and a midget like Fred Van Vleet off their own bench. Alainitiju omo

KarnThornheart:
Do you know how probability works? they're 1-2 in the games he played which is 33% probability of a win with him, they're 0-1 without him which is a 0% probability. This isnt even about just klay.

This is not my concern. I'm saying it's pointless to chase what is in the bush when we have evidence at hand. If you agree that the Warriors would have beaten the Cavs had Draymond not gotten suspended then I would agree the series would be tied if Klay played.

KarnThornheart:
If skip bayless, stephen a whose whole gimmick is hating on lebron can see it but you cant? If magic johnson, jalen rose, kendrick, matt barnes can see it but you cant, if you cant see how badly the quality of their basketball dropped after he got injured and that they never got their mojo back, if you cant see how their best players only playing 30 games together affects them, it really says more about you than anything else. I really cant help you.

What is my business with all these names you mentioned? Are they paying my bills? We have 72% of the league at present insisting MJ is the GOAT and players who played both eras and even played in the same team with LeNomad confirming MJ's GOAT status yet you argue. Do you see me trying to help you?

Abeg leave all this story for tortoise. All I know is LeNomad prior to his injury was 2 games ahead of 10th place, came back with 32 games to play 2 games behind 8th seed and failed to make the playoffs

KarnThornheart:
Did i say he was over the edge or was going to push them over the edge? Hes still better than nothing and better than the scrubs the warriors have now. The man averaged about 19 points in 3 years in dallas what are you even talmbout?

I'm asking you if he did push them over the edge. I'm not saying you said He Did or Was Going to so stop asking me Jamb Questions. I know Harrison Barnes as an average Joe and he has never proven me wrong.

The trade off for keeping Harrison Barnes would have been overpaying him for paltry production. They would still have no bench as the difference between K.D's salary and Barnes is less than $5m. Bear in mind that Klay and Draymond's salaries are under $20m

KarnThornheart:
You keep deflecting the argument. Its about whether the warriors are better off with having nothing than with having harrison barnes, the answer is pretty obvious. I dont even know what you're talking about.

What part of Harrison Barnes play while at Golden State and since he left suggests they would be better with him? I really don't get the point of this your argument as keeping Harrison Barnes would have meant not signing Kevin Durant. Are you saying they should have held on to friggin Harrison friggin Barnes

I would rather have a motley crew of bench niggas I can shuffle every season than an average Harrison Barnes that doesn't not move any needles at either end of the court but still demands a big salary

KarnThornheart:
Yeah lets just forget him injuring his groin at a pivotal stage. Just when they were starting to click. The lakers would've made the playoffs if he didnt get injured period. And with how weak the west is they would have made the WCF if they avoided golden state.

Why would he need the avengers to beat a KD less, bench less, plague infested team in the finals?

The pivotal stage was returning before All-star break with all to play for. If he couldn't beat poverty teams like the Suns, Grizzlies, Pelicans, Knicks why am I supposed to believe they would have gotten to any yeye playoffs never mind the WCF. Let me know when you're ready to come out of that Fantasy land

They are so bench less we saw Kerr go 10 deep and win on the road against these same Raptors. What planet does the bench show up every night? If they did they wouldn't be on the bench

Speaking about bench the Raptors bench is Ibaka and Van Vleet. That's it!!

KarnThornheart:
You literally just asked why arent other teams in the playoffs.

No I was talking about teams with heralded benches eg the Bucks

KarnThornheart:
But klay missed game 3 and they lost. Who says they wouldnt have won after winning game 2?

I'm not in that business. Who says the GOAT wouldn't have won a Four-peat if he didn't retire after 93? We can only work with what we can see and that the Warriors have lost 2 of the 3 games Klay played in, probability suggests the Warriors are likelier to have lost had he played

KarnThornheart:
Not before he got injured they werent. Not before lonzo got injured and the ingram. You are still denying the lakers wouldve made the playoffs if lebron didnt go down? LOL!

Lmaooo they were two games ahead of the 10th seed FFS. Stop repeating this tired line. He came back with two and a half months left and just two games to make up the playoffs and your boy couldn't hack it. The Lakers weren't making no bloody playoffs whether LeNomad was healthy or not

KarnThornheart:
LMAO! Stop it, you are trying too hard. The point is the raptors were good without him period, stop deflecting from the point.

Clearly not good enough else they wouldn't mortgage their future to get him

KarnThornheart:
No, the mavericks took him cause they saw potential based on what he did pre finals. The kings took him cause they had a young good team and they thought barnes would add to that and push them over the edge. Plus they know hes better than nothing which is basically what the warriors have now.

The same Mavericks that up till Luka Doncic had not drafted any decent player since Josh Howard. They are not exactly the gold standard of talent evaluation and we can see the Mavs have remained rubbish even with him on the roster. Well the Kings also thought wrong, did Harrison Barnes push them over the edge?

In this league the only thing worse than possessing scrubs in your roster is overpaying them. The great teams know this while the ones that don't pay Nicholas Batum $120mil for 5 years. There is nothing right now that suggests Harrison Barnes would help this present incarnation of the Golden State Warriors and they would have been stuck with a middling player earning way too much

KarnThornheart:
Of course they would've been exposed without kawhi they arent good enough. But they're good enough to win regular season games without him and thats better than lebron can say.

That's neither here nor there. With this present Lakers squad their record is 28-27 with LeNomad so LeNomad's arrival did not provide any dramatic improvement needed to win more regular season games.
The point is Kawhi did not need a gang of Avengers to get to this point

KarnThornheart:
LOL! Maybe they're not in the finals cause they didnt have kevin friggin durant for half the playoffs.

They didn't add KD to just make the Finals did they? Ensuring dominance was the purpose of adding KD

KarnThornheart:
I'm saying maybe they would and maybe they wouldnt. Warriors had another game at home after draymond returned, the warriors may not have the same luxury with klay. They're down 3-1 not up 3-1.

Arguing for either stance is pointless. If they lost multiple games even when both guys played both on the road and at home then whether they played doesn't matter. Draymond missed a game but they lost Games 3,6 and 7 where he played. Same goes for Game 1 and 4 that Klay played

KarnThornheart:
They're kids. They should've proved the werent without lebron.

By comparison, the raptors are 17-5 without kawhi, 13-0 against non playoff opposition and 4-5 against playoff opposition.

Even with LeNomad they were 28-27. There is enough blame to go round

Your post shows the Raptors are sub .500 without Kawhi against playoff level opposition so maybe they are not as good as you're suggesting same way the Warriors are 1-6 in their last 7 finals games sans KD. The Warriors that went for KD and the Raptors that dumped DeRozan for Kawhi are not stupid. They know why

KarnThornheart:
Theres also a reason the mavs paid him 20 mil plus. Theres also a reason the kings took him off their hands.

Yes because they had excess cap room and had to spend it on somebody. Absolutely no one expected anything from the Mavs when they signed him. That's why the Mavs quickly traded a 26 year old rather than letting his deal enter the final year. The Kings have excess cap room to spare, we will know if the Kings rate him when his present deal expires and they offer him more than he was getting at the Mavs

KarnThornheart:
I literally didnt even say anything close to that. Dont deflect from the point. Kawhi missed multiple regular season games which the raptors won so this team is actually good without him and even better with him.

That's immaterial when brought to the crucible of playoff basketball. The playoffs was where the deficiencies of the Raptors have been exposed. Don't bring regular season into this matter. They didn't bring Kawhi for the regular season

KarnThornheart:
As for KD, again, klay missed one game and if they didnt have KD they'd spend his money on a better bench. Not saying they're better without him, but they wouldn't be this bad.

Their bench as it stands is competent. Who are the teams with so-called better benches? Why are they not in the NBA Finals. Didn't Milwaukee have a loaded bench? Why didn't they get to a Game 7 even with home court

KarnThornheart:
One of their core players still didnt play. 1-2 is still better than 1-3.

You're assuming they win if he played. The evidence doesn't agree with that. It's as pointless as suggesting the Warriors would have beaten LeNomad's Cavs had Draymond not gotten suspended

KarnThornheart:
So why would he want to trade them?

Are Kuzma, Ingram, Ball bums?

KarnThornheart:
I'm sure curry would've killed to have harrison barnes in game 3.

Lmaooo don't remind me of Harrison Barnes please. There is a reason the Mavs traded him mid-game

KarnThornheart:
One game which the warriors lost and curry actually showed up. Why should we drop that argument?

This is moot. He could show up and Klay doesn't. The Warriors still would have lost. What we do know is Klay has played 3 games and the Warriors are 1-2

KarnThornheart:
And the other good players you just mentioned?

I don't recall anyone suggesting they were bums

KarnThornheart:
KD hasnt played in this series. What i'm saying is without KD at all the warriors would have done better to account for his absence since his money would be used to make up for the bench. So this isnt the same team as the 2016 or 2015 warriors just because KD isnt playing.

They would have probably had to overpay Harrison Barnes or add bench guys that may or may not have delivered unless their names are Lou Williams. Across the league you would struggle to find any team that has gotten value for money like Golden State

KarnThornheart:
Because toronto is a good team and has a winning record without him?

In the playoffs? This is the same narrative people were peddling about the Warriors being better without KD. They are now 1-6 in their last 7 NBA Finals games

KarnThornheart:
You mean unlike every other superstar that has ever won bar dirk nowitzki?

That's immaterial what counts is Kawhi didn't get to Toronto and tried to trade half his roster for All-NBA level talents.

KarnThornheart:
Kyle Lowry, Siakam, Marc Gasol, Ibaka, Van Vleet, KD injured, Klay injured, no bench (Kd money would've been bench money). Wow, what an underdog. I wish lebron was ever this kind of underdog against the warriors. Why are you lot obsessed with lebron? you literally have 5 all stars on your team and you are talking about assembling avengers?

Siakam, Gasol, Ibaka, Van Vleet are all good players. At this stage of their careers they are not all-stars though. Even Kyle Lowry is barely at all-star level if we are being honest

Klay missed one game bruh. I can also argue Kawhi is not 100% so let's bin that argument.

Based on this season the Raptors have just two all-stars and some will even tell you Kyle Lowry is not an all-star.

Looney, Cook, Jerebko, Mckinnie are decent players. And drop that bench argument quickly! How can a team with KD, Boogie, Steph, Klay and Green be complaining about lack of bench. Wetin make other teams talk?

The Raptors are essentially playing with a 7 man rotation as Powell and McCaw are borderline unplayable and you're talking about depth

steady986:
It sounds funny coming from a guy who supports a team that has 3 and a half superstars, and whose team also can't win with 2 and a half superstars against a team with 1 superstar.

Oga make we hear word. If Kawhi wins it would be on record that he did it with Kyle Lowry/Pascal Siakam as his second player and without needing to assemble the Avengers unlike your Fulani nomadic herdsman. Never mind beating Philadelphia (Embiid,Butler,Simmons,Harris) Milwaukee (Giannis, Middleton) on the way

Khanben:
If Raptors win this finals it will IMO add more fuel to the belief that kawhi's camp has that he doesn't need another superstar.

Unlike that Fulani nomadic herdsman now playing for the Lakers

steady986:
Lol, it's so easy for you to say this because KD is out. At least you people have something to leverage on when the trolling starts pouring in proper

And this also means that all your titles weren't well deserved, because you people wouldn't have won if it wasn't for those injuries to opposing players

Maybe you have me confused for someone else. I have always maintained the Warriors needed KD.

Even when the media hype was on overdrive and the likes of Shannon and Chris Broussard were foaming and frothing in the mouth. I pointed out that lost in the sweep of the Blazers were the Warriors coming behind from double digits three times. But for that 18-0 run in the third quarter of Game 2 we're potentially talking about a sweep

You can beat the likes of McCollum, Lillard and Harden sans KD but when you're facing LeNomad's Cavs, Kawhi's Raptors you will surely run into problems

What titles were not well deserved? Go and cancel it now. Orisirisi

Greatihex:
"Often, a dribble brings more joy than a goal," Hazard once said. "That's when the people stand up to applaud. It's part of my reflex. People want the show, they pay for it. You're an actor. So let's bring them pleasure. When I start a match, I tell myself I have to dribble. Today isn't the day to score, it's the day to dribble. This is my main quality."



Hazard must be very stupid to make this kind of statement. I never knew he said something like this.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11736232/eden-hazard-to-real-madrid-assessing-his-chelsea-legacy

And you wonder why he has 4 goals from open play after 7 years in Chelsea while small small boys like Salah, Mane came to England and won Champions League under his nose without Ronaldo or Messi as teammates. Thank God Madrid will not tolerate his Shakushaku dancing