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KarnThornheart:
And Kemba should definitely not take a cut. He deserves to get paid. Especially after all the years of abuse and hardship he endured at the hands of the degenerate gambler. What you are talking about is highly implausible. There's nothing to suggest that the bucks are that desperate enough to get rid of bledsoe who again was a huge part of their success to do something so drastic.

What defines a player? How many times have we seen superstars consistently bomb in the playoffs? Again does that mean they're useless?

Just like derozan let Lowry down Giannis definitely let his team down with is one dimensional offense. He definitely underperformed. Again if all you do is get to the rim you will get exposed in the playoffs. Simmons Westbrook Giannis if you can't shoot you'll get exposed. Same goes for bledsoe I guess but he's not the superstar Giannis is. If he had come through we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I know it's a far-fetched idea. I was just suggesting a way the Bucks could improve. They need much better point guard play than they are getting thus far from Bledsoe

I don't know why you're holding brief for a Bledsoe that was outplayed by a young backup last year and his backup this year. He is a rubbish PG end of story.

Giannis let his team down no doubt but he wasn't the 6th best player in his team. My problem with Giannis was more with his decision making than the flaws in his game. He was also woeful from the free throw line. However that has nothing to do with Bledsoe who was pure rubbish!!!

He shot 20/68 for the series. This ninja shot 29% from the field FFS! How do you hope to win any series when your PG is dropping such rubbish poverty numbers

airmark:
Did Psg bring the money requested by Bayern? Only a foolish club wouldn't want to scam the Psg sheikhs.

Show me where they officially submitted a bid for him and it was rejected? The sheikhs later wised up and abandoned Bayern and their calamitous package.

I want to believe you can read. Shebi you were arguing that he didn't want to leave. After proving he indeed wanted to leave what are you still arguing?

They put up €40m for him and balked when Bayern insisted on €50m because of FFP wahala. This is what everyone not living under a rock knows so no need to waste my time. Google is your friend bruhhhhh

KarnThornheart:
Lol! Kemba? Kemba is illegible for a 200m plus Supermax. Unless the bucks want to ruin their roster that upgrade is not worth it. Middleton is up for a pay raise. Giannis is also up for a super max in a year. Kemba is not a viable option for them at all. Lowry played like a bum against the Cavs last year, this year he's in the finals. Bledsoe will come around.

What does it matter? In today's league the really good teams have 2-3 players on max deals. The trick is to pay it to the guys in their primes.

Obviously someone like Kemba will have to take a cut unless he wants to remain in the hell that is the Hornets right now.

Getting Bledsoe, Mirotic and Hill off their books will create money for Kemba. It's a hypothetical longshot but it is what it is

Stop comparing Kyle Lowry to Eric Bledsoe. Kyle Lowry averaged 18ppg last year and was let down by his mental midget teammate DeMar DeRozan unlike that bum Eric Bledsoe and his poverty numbers this series. He was the 6th best scorer on his own team. That's how useless he was

raumdeuter:
Boateng in the past few years has started promoting his fashion brand which Bayern FO didnt like and he wanted to move to a city where he can do that
Last season Boateng wanted to move to Paris which will be more favourable to his business and Bayern vetoed the move and didnt allow him to move

All season he was just throwing tantrums, this season he launched his lifestyle magazine, on the day of the Dortmund game he organized a party and told the team that win or lose party goes on, After the league and cup win Boateng disappeared and went for his own private party

Boateng wanted out Bayern didnt allow him, unlike Terry that the club wanted to chase and he went to the fans to instigate a protest to get a contract

I blame the board for not cashing out on a disgruntled asset. Everyone knew Boateng was up to extracurricular activities and wanted out and so you either recommit to him or maximize the value you can get out of him in the transfer market

My problem with the board was rejecting €40m last season. We could have gotten Pavard and not had to pay Boateng's €12m P/a. Now the incentive for Boateng to prove himself is lost as Löw has axed him and Hummels from the squad. PSG also have likely lost interest. If I'm Boateng walahi I no dey comot till 2021 when my contract expires. I will just enter Yankee and be knackin Rihanna,Meg Thee Stallion, Ravieloso, Bernice Burgos and all those other bad bitches

Everyone knows John Terryble Racist was a carry along that benefited from parapo defending. The same defensive pattern that made David Luiz look like Baresi

airmark:
This is not absolutely true. I remember before the world cup, the club stated that Boathand was surplus to requirements and up for sale. Alogolo reacted angrily by saying they never informed him. He didn't want to leave.

It's obvious they didn't want the useless defender, long time ago. I remember that more than 4yrs ago, club president threatened to send him packing disgracefully in the media.

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2018/8/30/17800384/bayern-munich-psg-offer-40-million-jerome-boateng-transfer-report-bundesliga-niko-kovac-tuchel

https://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/bayern-munich-president-confirms-boateng-wants-psg-move-85926

You don't reject €40m on a player you're serious about offloading. Now let's see if they will get €20m on Boateng after foolishly rejecting PSG's money last season

Boateng wanted to leave last season. Don't come here and blow fallacy

chic2pimp:
A40 see your Boy Bledsoe with 8 points

All the basketball I don watch. I know a wasteman when I see one. If I'm the Bucks I'd call up Charlotte and try and get Kemba Walker. If I have to let Mirotic, Hill walk and trade Bledsoe to the Wizards or some club. Pay Brogdon, Pay Kemba and surround Giannis with shooters while he also works on his shooting. Because the Raptors exposed him badly

airmark:
Raumdeuter and a40, death knell.

When he wanted to leave last season to PSG on his own volition why did they hold on to him? It's the same Bayern board that slammed €50m on Boateng when PSG wanted to pay €40m so why are they lamenting about the problem they created for themselves. If I'm Boateng I'm not moving an inch. When I can play golf and be chopping awoof €12m per year partying with Jay Z and co

ipledge10:
I’m so mad right now, KAT didn’t make all nba team.

Why should KAT have made All-NBA team? Who would you have left out?

Bradley Beal is probably the only person that should have righteous anger about being left out

ZenHallewell:
And when the boston celtics were put together averaging

Allen 26 4 5

Pierce 25 6 4

Garnett 22 13 4 2

Who were they up against in the east Baby Lebron or the fa.ggot of orlando?

That's the friggin point!!!!

Nobody was fighting fair!! Now you understand

ZenHallewell:
One legged wade was most definitely not in his athletic prime. What was the expectation for amare melo and billups mr long tooth? They were swept by these old men you are making fun of. or more recently okc? since expectation is what translates to reality! In your words super teams built inorganically bomb all the time, they dont guarantee sh-t!

One-legged Wade outplayed LeNomad in an NBA Finals. Put some respeck on his name

Chauncey Billups was 34 when he joined the Knicks. Leeemaoo. Try another example

Nobody expected dominance from Melo and Amare alone. We saw how injuries wrecked Amare and he was cooked after that season

ZenHallewell:
The heat made the playoffs before lebron, guess who gentleman swept them? These "harmless" old men you keep yapping about.

Because Wade's second best player was Mario goddamn Chalmers

ZenHallewell:
If in your words a team with

Carter 25 6 5

Kidd 13 9 8

Jefferson 16 4 3

are underdogs against a lebron team with larry hughes as his second best player then those averages you wasted your time digging dont mean jack sh-t!

Jefferson not an all-star. Kidd was 34

ZenHallewell:
Mr long tooth, Kevin love was playing way below expectations, playing horribly. There were talks of trading him. I guess your tooth isnt that long after all.

Kevin Love was a matchup issue with Draymond Green. He played well the entire season so don't come here and rubbish his contributions. He made arguably the most important stop despite having an average series by his standards. If 16-10 with his usage is playing horribly then I wonder who is playing exceptionally

steady986:
You're just changing the argument to run away from the original topic. Even though Bosh and Wade were averaging those high numbers, they hadn't gone to the Eastern conference finals let alone the NBA finals in the last 4 years before LeBron joined them. Whereas KG and PP, even though they averaged those low numbers, they had gone to the NBA finals in 2 of the previous 4 years. If LeBron chose to join the Celtics then, that would have been considered a weak move. But no, he decided to join the team who needed help.

Why would LeNomad join an old Celtics team?As a 26 year old where is the sense in joining teammates 7+ years your senior? Number 1 they could not afford him. The Cap situation back then did not allow it.

Secondly. Bosh and Wade not getting to the Finals was the function of being in average to mediocre teams. KG, PP and Allen had gone to 0 NBA Finals before they teamed up. Yet we knew that getting there was a foregone conclusion the day they joined

Now for you to sit and tell me that three all-time greats would form a team and not have an unfairly enhanced chance of getting to an NBA Finals is being intellectually dishonest never mind 3 young players just reaching their primes.

Khanben:
Please apart from Spurs name one small market team that has won the NBA in the past 30years. The spurs only won because they are extraordinarily well run and lucked in on Tin Duncan.
Lebron was drafted by a team who for 7 years, the best players they could put with him was Mo Williams and an old Shaq.
Nobody blames KD for leaving OKC, the issue people have is of him going to GSW. IMO if not for his sensitivity this will not be a huge topic

There are numerous players that stuck with their team. It's not about big market or small market. Everyone cannot play for a big market and a big market does not guarantee anything. LeNomad went for the surest bet which was teaming up with not one but two all-stars in their prime.

Nobody in the league had done that before. Hakeem, Barkley and Clyde were old when they did theirs, I won't even talk about the Grandpa Lakers in 04, and then the Celtics Big three who were on the wrong side of 30. LeNomad on the other hand handpicked two of the best 5 players from arguably the best draft class since 84. Paired them on one team and people are trying to act like they were playing fair.

My only issue with KD is that he even gives a damn about anyone's opinion. He needs to grow a pair. He should have known people would be salty

ZenHallewell:
BTW Wheres A40 and the rest of the people declaring a fatwa on Bledsoe?

He scored a meager 16points. They still lost. Big whoopty whoop

ZenHallewell:
And if KD had done that then you can claim its the same thing as lebron. KD ran and joined the team he cant beat, thats like saying lebron joined the celtics.

You're justifying one sin and vilifying the other. I don't subscribe to that. They both took the shortcuts to success.

Three in their prime stars teamed up to beat up a bunch of old men.

ZenHallewell:
LOL Lebron gave 7 years of his career to cleveland with no signs of his owner giving him a good team. Not even a pippen to mentor like jordan had. Why should he stay? So he can end up ringless? Naah, leaving worked out for him, now hes the undisputed GOAT!!!

No one cares if he spent 100 years in Cleveland. Dirk and Hakeem labored for over a decade before winning a ring with terrible rosters. They didn't take the easy way out by running to form a super team. The GOAT ran into the juggernaut Celtics and Pistons took his lumps and faced them till he beat them.

That is what true GOATs do not paper goats that were anointed by Jimmy from Instagram and Mufu from Agbado Ijaiye.

This is why 20 years later 73% of the league recognize the true GOAT

ZenHallewell:
Okay, let say you're right, the celtics were a non factor in the east. Do you think any of their teams as they were constructed, the cavs, raptors or heat wouldve beaten the 2011 bulls? I told you if it werent the celtics it would have been another well run team. They took the guess work out of it!

The 2011 Bulls were led by Derrick Rose. LeNomad took two HOFers to face a team whose best player was 6ft

The Celtics were aging and the Cavs had the best record in the league in 2010. He could have stayed and faced the Celtics again, instead LeNomad pussied out the last two games of that series going 8/21 and 3/14 in the Final two games. Ran to Miami to get help then started flexing muscles. Leeemaoo

ZenHallewell:
LOOL! No he didnt, he played below standards but he still had 17 7 7 or something like that, Kobe won a ring with worse averages.

Kobe was not the best player on his team back then. He was 21

ZenHallewell:
Mike Miller, i agree but not Rashad. Besides, thats not what the debate was, it was over the word "legendary spot up shooters".

Stop being pedantic. Long story short the Heat had a ton of shooters

ZenHallewell:
Dont move the goal post, you said draft mates coming together had never before seen. So bloody what? I just pointed out that the celtics were just as potent when they were formed, so all that nonsense about it never been seen before is absolutely pointless to the issue at hand.

Did I say they were not potent? You would rather rush to type instead of paying attention. They averaged those numbers in their 30's, LeNomad did it in their 20's. The Heat had more time to expect more elite production the Celtics didn't

LeNomad gathered players that averaged this
Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6

To fight 35 and 36 year olds that were averaging
Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

That is the crux of this present matter. Don't moonwalk to old arguments

ZenHallewell:
But you speak as if the heat committed a crime by winning just two, You speak these teams were supposed to just bull doze the whole league like the warriors are now! Even you spoke of the injury woes wade and garnett had, those three had two good years and that was it, injuries did them dirty. You cant convince mean that each of those celtics didnt have at least two more elite years seeing as they both came off one of their best seasons. This is what you've refused to get and now you just shot yourself in the foot. Bringing three stars doesnt automatically mean domination so thats by no way taking the easy way out. Thats building a team, we dont know what that team will be! The warriors were already the greatest regular season team without him.

They were in their athletic primes. Stop comparing their title window to that of the Celtics.

Everybody expected the Celtics and Heatles to steamroll the league. Some of us are very long in the tooth and actively followed basketball back then so don't come and revise history for us. The Celtics had just one major threat which was Kobe and the Lakers

If bringing 3 All-stars did not guarantee domination then the Celtics would not have gone from a 24-58 team to a 66-16 team in one season, neither would the Heat jump from not making the playoffs to 4 straight Finals.

Imagine someone telling me 27 year olds averaging these numbers would not dominate the league

Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6
LeNomad James - 29-7-8

Sakamanje

ZenHallewell:
LOOL! Kevin love was playing like a bum all through the season. Culminated with the cavs benching him at crucial points in the finals. At least he came through with 'The Stop" though.

A 16-10 and 17-8 bum. If that's what it takes to be a bum I'd hate to know what you need to do to be an all-star

ZenHallewell:
AD and Kyrie and we bury the league in rubble.

I no just wan hear any excuses next season

ZenHallewell:
Did lebron run from the celtics? or did he run from the mavericks? Again did lebron have any player even close to pippen? The only person who ran from competition here is KD and thats why hes a b-tch.

Why would he run when you can simply ring up two players who averaged 50points the previous season and one of whom has a Championship belt round his waist?

Do you realize those two already nullify the Celtics Big three.

It took 3 years under Jordan for Pippen to be all-star caliber. Why didn't LeNomad run it back 4 times like the GOAT did? Why did he dip after the second year? He took the easy way out

ZenHallewell:
Garnett was 32, Pierce 31 and Allen 32, they at least had two elite years in them seeing as they all just came off the back of stellar seasons. Yet they ended up with one ring!

How many teams with their core players in the wrong side of 30 win multiple rings? Only the GOAT did it

ZenHallewell:
the celtics greatest player scalabrine left the boston in 2010. Apart from their starting 5 with 4 allstars BTW, They also had a stable of seasoned veterans. The heat barely survived and took lebron going super saiyan for them to win. That team was no joke?

Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

This was what the Celtics Big three were averaging before the Heatles were formed. They were dying

ZenHallewell:
Why do you think the heat lost when lebron choked in 2011? Cause if lebron doesnt perform that team isnt all its made out to be. Again the warriors just swept the ECF without KD.

They lost because LeNomad played worse than the second best player on the Mavs. If your supposedly best player plays poorly chances are you would lose. After all Wade choked in 2014. Did the Heat win?

ZenHallewell:
As a spot up shooter he averaged more points than both of them with better efficiency. Even Ray Allen said he felt Eddie House was a better shooter than him, obviously not true but thats how good he was. So yes, Eddie house.

How many rings did Eddie House even win with the Heat? Mike Miller and Rashad Lewis were better shooters than Eddie House.

ZenHallewell:
Allen averaged a career high 26 points the season before the signed with boston, paul pierce 25 and garnett 24 and 15. They were very much in their primes!

Good. I like where we are going with this.

Now when LeNomad and co linked up this was what the Celtics Big Three averaged

Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

Now compare with

Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6
LeNomad James - 29-7-8

Add this all up then tell me if multiple titles for the Heatles weren't a given the minute that team was formed. Considering they were 26 not 31 when this team was formed

ZenHallewell:
Yeah and they ended up with one ring. Lebron carried a team to a finals and got swept, who did dan gilbert give him after that? If it wasnt the celtics it was another team with a decent FO, when it became obvious they werent going to put a decent team around him, why wont he bolt and form one that allows him to compete?

Yes because they were Old AF!!! Their numbers in 07 would have still been good but how many good years were left? You think prime KG, Pierce and Allen would not win more than one ring? Puhleeze

If Prime LeNomad and the Heatles could only win two rings then how much more the significantly older Celtics trio.

ZenHallewell:
Ohh and technically the cavs had one allstar in 2016 so... If you're talking all star caliber players, lebron has done that but thats besides the point. Again if he can beat the warriors with 73 wins, the unanimous mvp and 3 all stars why cant he beat the cavs?

I guess they deserve each other, bunch of spineless bitches the lot of them.

Kevin Love was 16-10 regular season. How he didn't make the all-star game is a laughable joke. He was 17-9 till the Warriors series anyway. You can't objectively argue Kevin Love was not an all-star caliber player in 2016

Lol channel your energy on recruiting AD and Kyrie. We don't want no excuses next season

ZenHallewell:
No the problem is people who have the audacity to call it the same thing.

They are the same thing. Both players took the easy way out

ZenHallewell:
Lebron too won without Ray Allen too

And Rodman led the league in rebounding consecutively from from 1992-1998 including all the years he was with that bald gambler. Rodman averaged 15 16 and15 rebounds the seasons he won with the bulls. Also made the all defensive first team. Rodman was never a scorer.

The GOAT had 3 titles before Rodman, LeNomad had only won one before Allen. Groß difference

In the post season all of Rodman's rebounding numbers dropped. He made the All-defense just once!!

ZenHallewell:
And this is where you compare Jordan to Kevin Durant not lebron. Lebron never had a second like pippen, KD had westbrook. Jordan didnt bolt, he stayed and beat the pistons. Just like lebron when he couldnt get a decent team formed a decent team to beat the celtics.

Nope. Jordan is nothing like KD or LeNomad. The GOAT didn't run from Detroit like both of them ran from their respective situations

Up till the time Jordan's Bulls beat the Pistons Pippen had just one all-star appearance. That's it!

LeNomad took 2 other all-stars to beat a bunch of aging vets. He out Celtic'd the Celtics. Had the Celtics did what LeNomad did in their primes who knows how many rings they win

ZenHallewell:
LOL! Even with lebron it took them 6 to beat them without garnett and 7 games with garnett. No wade and lebron wasnt enough, that celtics team as a tough team with Hall of famers and seasoned veterans. Went 10 men deep too.

Garnett played both series and they lost in 5 and 7. They were old as hell.

And they were 7-8 deep max unless you want to include Brian Scalabrine in your 10 man rotation

If Wade and LeNomad is not enough then leave KD to join whichever team he likes

ZenHallewell:
Legendary spot up shooters. LOOOL! Eddie house was arguably the best shooter on that team.

Are you comparing Eddie House to Rashad Lewis and Mike Miller? Lmaooooo

Khanben:
The difference for those who have a problem with it is that KD left a team with an all NBA and MVP caliber player, and Lebron did not

Thank God you used the word problem. Emphasis on problem. That's their personal problem

ZenHallewell:
When the celtics put together 3 franchise players in their prime did anyone protest? When the celtics were put together were they 35? Did that make the boston celtics the best team in the league? They won one friggin ring! There was no guarantee that they were better than everyone else. The warriors on the other hand were better than everyone else without him!

Lebron was excited the finally had a decent team after dragging more bums than tom daley all his career! KD on the other hand, if he could beat a 73 win warrior team with 3 allstars as well, why shouldnt he take his chances against the cavs? Naah he'd rather choke and skew the balance.


This literally makes no sense whatsoever! They already humiliated him, they have nothing against him. Why wouldnt they want to get better, him on the other hand has no competitive bone in is body.

Which kin yeye prime. KG and Ray Allen were in their 12th and 13th season in the league. Even Paul Pierce the youngest of the bunch was in his 10th season.

Are you asking me if the Celtics didn't become the best team in the league? They literally vaulted from 24-58 to the best record in the league.

If there were no guarantees that they were the best team then that is an even bigger indictment on your LeNomad who ran to Miami because he couldn't beat them and ran after his second attempt so make up your mind.

How often has anyone beaten two three all-star teams in one postseason with just one all-star? Not even your LeNomad did it so take several seats

They humiliated him but came crying to him literally to come and save them. He saved them and led them to two more rings. Shikena

ZenHallewell:
Isnt this the same bloke who brings up ray allen anytime he mentions the heatles?

Ray Allen saved Miami's bacon vs San Antonio

After Rodman's first season he was averaging 4 points and 9 rebounds per game

The GOAT won a whole 3 peat without Rodman. Don't overestimate his importance

ZenHallewell:
Another bad joke! He got pippen before he could beat them, did lebron get a pippen? Or a phil jackson? So he should remain with an incompetent front office? LMAO! If it wasnt the celtics it would have been another more well run organization.

The joke is on you. Pippen was present for all the 3 previous losses. He could have decided he couldn't win with Pippen and left

Jordan didn't bolt when Pippen his second best option was averaging 10 and 13pts per game the entire postseason. He stuck with him and groomed him till he improved

Stop with the funny excuses. LeNomad took a shortcut. End of story

ZenHallewell:
Gotten Bosh? To Cleveland? LMAO! They wanted to send him to cleveland, chris bosh flat out refused! As for KD, what competitive balance? wake up! Theres no competition in the league!

Now he has forgotten Ray Allens name because he has realised his blunder its now "legendary spot up shooters"

Why did they add Bosh when they already had Wade. LeNomad and Wade would have been enough but they had to add a third all-star to destroy the league.

What blunder? Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Rashad Lewis weren't excellent spot up shooters excluding the greatest ever at the time Ray Allen? Are you hungry?

ZenHallewell:
If they had given him one reasonable second he would have. He won the east once then the celtics went and put 3 hall of famers on the same team. How was he going to contend with that with friggin mo williams?

OKC as built couldve challenged golden state and should've beat them if not for KDs choke job. There was parity and instead of figuring out how to beat them in or out of OKC he decided to go overwhelmingly skew the balance in one teams favor.

i have no problem with the warriors going after him, but hes a b-cth for going there. At least he did whats best for him right? Well hes still a b-cth! mess with the bull you best make sure you're ready to get the horns.

He needed two stars, not one aging vet and one star but two stars who had led their teams to a title and the playoffs respectively. And more importantly were still in their primes to take on the Celtics whose best three players were at an average age of 35

Nobody cares what OKC should have done. They were also in LeNomad's situation only difference being KD was in his 9th year in the league. Had he beaten Golden State he would still have had to take down another team with 3 all-stars. Your MCM destroyed parity when he ran to link up with 2 other all-stars in Miami. That's why at their unveiling they bragged about how many Championships they were going to win till the league gave them a reality check


If you don't have any problems with the team that beat him but still went to get him cos they needed him then your blame priorities are not in order

ZenHallewell:
Of course he took a short cut. Just like jordan did when he got pippen and eventually rodman, just like pierce garnett and allen did? oh wait its not a short cut when a front office puts together a good team?

All lebron wanted was a decent team to compete and if he had that he would've stayed. KD had that, choked and then ran to the team he couldnt beat.

Lmaooo he got Rodman after they won their first threepeat so Rodman don't count, Pippen got drafted. He was developed and wasn't a lottery pick. Fail again

The GOAT faced Detroit 3 times. And beat them the 4th time. He didn't run to South Beach to team up with two other all time greats.

The Celtics Big 3 were all on the wrong side of 30. Not in their prime so try another excuse

LeNomad could have gotten just Bosh and that would be better than what he had in Cleveland. Why did he need a Finals MVP and former scoring champion, Bosh, and other legendary spot up shooters to tilt the competitive balance in his favor

ZenHallewell:
But a short cut is not a short cut. Some shortcuts just mean the race is pointless to begin with. One took a short cut so he can compete without handicap, the other took a short cut to make sure no one can compete but him.

Ohhhh. So you admit LeNomad took a shortcut. Good! We're making progress

I'm not interested in who committed the lesser crime.

This is like Antonio Margarito and Big Baby Miller arguing about who used less juice

Or Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire

ZenHallewell:
Point is, that situation is not comparable to KDs at all!

They both took shortcuts to rings. Whoever took the shorter cut is not really my concern. A short cut is a short cut

ZenHallewell:
Lets put it this way, take lebron off the heat and put him on the bulls or the pacers or the sixers or celtics, who would've won the east? He made them viable finals teams not the other way round.

Thats the point, the warriors should beat the blazers because the warriors without KD are still the best team in the league. Why would you add to that and ruin everyones chances? A team you had the chance to beat on your own and blow it?

Then he should have stayed in Cleveland if he could do it all by himself. There was no need recruiting Bosh and Wade. How many times did he win the East before joining the Heat?

We all know KD didn't join the Warriors because of the Blazers who are arguably not even the second best team in the West. Like I said if they beat the Bucks or Raptors without KD then you might have an argument. But then KD and Golden State are not in the business of helping people's chances

The aim is Domination not parity. The onus is on the rest of the league to stop Golden State

ZenHallewell:
The cavs tried to get paul george after the warriors got KD. They were also going to trade K LOve for him so its minus one "all star".


As for the lakers, lebron never tried to get paul george actually. Thats a straight up lie. Paul George re-signed with OKC before lebron got to LA.

Is it K-Love? I thought it was Kyrie. Every day different story. Maybe if LeNomad's cronies Rich Paul didn't get Dan Gilbert to overpay Tristan and J.R Smith they would have been able to fit Paul George into the team

No one talked about the Lakers. Stop hallucinating

Khanben:
One of The main reason if i remember correctly why Lebron left Cleveland in the first place was that he found it difficult to recruit free agents to join him. Chicago on the other hand is a dream place for free agents. Apart from the teams in LA and NY I don't think there is a bigger market than Chicago

Is he the first player to play in a small market. Anyway he ran to Miami and crewed up with not one but two elite players in their prime. Never been done in the history of the league

That began the free agent arms race! so who is now the judge and jury to determine which free agent is off limits? Especially a team that built it's talents via the draft? It's open season. Kill or be killed

steady986:
How do you blame someone who has no flaws? Someone who's excellent in the game of basketball.

Whatever man

ZenHallewell:
They won without him, took a 3-1 lead in 2016 without him and who knows, maybe draymonds suspension is why they lost. Now we'll never know. Durant robbed everyone of a great rivalry.

Well nobody cares. In the end they lost. Draymond played the last two games and they lost. If Golden State decided they needed KD to win who are you to argue?

steady986:
Lol. The game ain't the game bro. KD cheated, and the world knows it...and he knows it too

The game is the game. Y'all are just a salty bunch. The Warriors recruited him. Same way LeNomad tried to get Paul George. Nobody is fighting fair so save the narrative

ZenHallewell:
LOL Suddenly we remember injuries happen. Part of lebrons contribution bar this season is his longevity and consistency, with wade and bosh down lebron still would've made the playoffs. While lebron was with the heat, wade and bosh had a losing record without lebron. Wade and bosh missed multiple games while lebron was there but he still guided them to wins.

Durant on the other hand... His team has a better record without him than with him SMH!

You're missing the point like a free throw. You made it sound like the Heat couldn't survive without LeNomad. Well he left and Heat got to Game 7 of the Conference semifinals (without Bosh)

I don't know about this so-called record you speak of but you're dealing with a ridiculously small sample size. Over the full length of a season we saw Wade and Bosh do just fine without LeNomad. But for Bosh's heart issues, who knows how far the Heat would have gone?

As for KD. Weren't they sweeping the Blazers before he arrived? Let the Warriors beat a team they aren't expected to beat without KD then we would see how far.

And by the way the Warriors have a better record in the playoffs since landing KD.

ZenHallewell:
Ray Allen wasnt the second best player in the league, not by a long shot. Man was a 90 year old spot up shooter. And whats the proof that they needed him to win when they won without him and just lost in 7 in the finals?


LOL! Watch this... "Relentless, overwhelming, unforgiving!...Thats your future now, and i'd feel sorry for you. If it wasnt going to be so much damn fun to watch".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5YzXLwjLM

If they didn't need him to win they could have paid Harrison Barnes max and ran it back with the same team.

KD was recruited, he joined and became their best player. We have no evidence the Warriors could win without KD. Steph was outplayed by Kyrie their first time out never mind LeNomad

The Heat team sans LeNomad had their two best players miss wait for it: 58 games!! And still went 37-45.

When Wade and Bosh were fairly healthy they got to to Game 7 of the Conference Semifinals. With Bosh missing the entire postseason.

But we're supposed to believe they were terrible when LeNomad left