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jimmy4x:
LOL...make me sef follow like d post jare....he only insults to pass his points, d number of posters he has insulted on the thread nd d Neymar/Hazard thread no be shereshere.
I wonder why he nd Raumdeuter no longer support Arsenal fc?

Because you are a m0ron and you have proven over time that insults are the only language you understand. The trick is not to get me started because I overdo it

Timbros is there and I have not insulted him because he has argued intelligently and has not resorted to veiled remarks and other B.S

Plenty of room for everybody. We all share a common passion for the game so no one needs to feel left out

Nihilist:
What is the meaning of Animashaun sef?

I thought it means 'Content with Life'

Why is always used on this board in same manner as 'Olosho' and 'Ashana'

You never upgrade your igbooro dictionary be that. If a guy calls a girl an Animashaun trust me its not a compliment

Why you lock your diary? I been wan comment on top

They can't chase us out of our thread jare.

Its the NBA Finals! Let's talk about the game we love

Many storylines in this matchup.

Will Lebron go 2-4

Will Ohio get its first professional sports title in 51 years

Will the Warriors win its first title in 40 years

LBJ and Steph Curry actually come from the same city believe it or not

One rookie coach wins a title in their debut season.

And it goes on and on

Key for the Cavs:
Force their ball handlers to cough up the ball. The Warriors are a very unique team with pretty much everyone bar Andrew Bogut able to handle the ball even going back to the bench (Iggy, Barbosa, Livingston) you are not going to force Steph into many turnovers so when the ball is out of his hands you have to make it count

Rebound, rebound. With Mozgov, Thompson, Lebron and even Shumpert the Cavs have a very decent corps of rebound guys. You have to limit the Warriors to one shot as often as possible. Failure to do so and you are exposing yourself to daggers and kickout bomb treys

Lebron can't do it alone. Hype Lebron all you want, call him the G.O.A.T but he's lost 3 NBA Finals for a reason. Inasmuch as you can only slow down Lebron you can't stop him it would be wiser for Lebron to defer to his teammates when he can and especially when his shots are not falling. His shooting in these playoffs have been ghastly at times, he's not making as many turnovers but with hounds like Thompson, Green, Iggy and Barnes that is also a distinct possibility

J.R Smith, Kyrie Irving. Re: what I said about Lebron can't do it alone. Unless the Cavs plan on keeping every game under 100 pts then these guys better come ready with their bullets. If its a shootout which most of the games could most likely be the Cavs don't stand a chance if these guys don't show up

Road wins. The Warriors have only lost 3 games at home all season. They've also won 33 games on the road. Simply put the Cavs are going to most likely need two wins at the Oracle Arena if they want to lift the Larry O'Brien trophy.

Keys for the Warriors:
Stage Fright: Unlike the Cavs this Warriors team have a total 0 minutes of NBA Finals experience. The entire roster!
The last team to win a title with that record was MJ's Bulls in 91. The good news is teams with their regular season record or better are 13-0 in the NBA Finals. If the Warriors are going to make it 14-0 then they have to forget the occasion and play with the fearlessness that got them this far. Swarming defense, excellent ball movement and ability to find the open man and of course the lights out shooting we have come to know and love

Turnovers: The Warriors have to take care of the ball better than they've done for most of the playoffs. If there is any achilles heel this team has its certainly that. The Cavs are not the turnover fastbreak fun machine the Heat used to be but they can still make you pay if you make sloppy decisions with the ball

Make Lebron beat you: Sounds wacky but there is a method to the madness. You want Lebron taking 20, 25 shots or more. This not only shuts out other guys like Kyrie who can drop 50 on a night or J.R Smith who can make 6-8 3's but it also takes a toll on Lebron defensively. You can't completely shut down Lebron but as the best defence in the league you can make him inefficient and its smooth sailing from there

Push the tempo: With two of the best shooters in the game and guys like Draymond and Harrison Barnes who can explode at the drop of a dime the Warriors simply have to make the Cavs play at their pace. This would largely negate Shumpert's defence and Thompson and Mozgov's ability to protect the rim.

Bench guys: The Warriors have the best bench in the league. Gast to make it count

If all else fails just turn off the Air Conditioner lol

nonsoroyalty:
Messi dribbles but he dribbled all the way to the ucl final
So chelsea fans how can u be proud of hazard dribbles and key passes when it didn't help u defeat psg?

If tap ins are easy in football why can't hazard score some tap ins

You keep saying messi spoonfeeds neymar did you know neymar has assisted messi 7 times this season while messi has assisted neymar 13times

Chelshit fans stop using the logic of messi always helping neymar you bunch of twats

Dani alves has assisted messi 40times in his career should we now say messi gets most of his goals because of dani alves tap in messi?

Na wa oo

When fabregas was assisting diego shitsta during the first half of season una dey compare am with aguero but una no talk say na fabregas they give am tap ins abi?


Hypocrisy am a barca fan but I can never boast of messi dribbles and key passes if e no win us anything

Whether hazard dribble o key passes oh bla bla bla at the end na goals matter most for football

You are better off trying to convert the Ayatollah or Louis Farrakhan to Christianity. Its a waste of time to convince them otherwise

2 goals from open play in 3 years. Its an effing disgrace!

Puzzling hire but worse was said about Allegri so you never know. Perhaps the quality of the squad would make it easier for him to succeed

bigkesh:
Are u serious about the gotze and ibrahimovic thing
I swear, i suddenly forgive u for comparing boateng to Terry....
Comparing boateng to Terry seems to be ur most sensible comment on nairaland
That speaks volumes

Don't be a ret@rd! I know you can't help it but at least try na.

Have you asked yourself why the ewu onitsha is comparing Goetze and Ibrahimovic in the first instance? Two players playing different roles and at polar opposite ends of their career. If not for mental handicap why would anyone compare both players

Ok lemme ask you who is better btw Iniesta or Andriy Shevchenko? Does such a comparison make sense to you?

PietroRico:


Guapo vs Akpan

Grabs popcorn*

I can see you are still having withdrawal syndrome Caitlyn Jenner. You only get half a bar

Phuck off!

parrotibaba:
baba easy ,de reached d UCL semi final barely 2 seasons ago

That's what I said. Read closely

AirborneLacer:
Hehehe. This isn't about me cussing you cos I know I didn't, this is about you being too emotional and sentimental when on an argument. You can say virtually all craps just to pass your point.

Seriously your brain should be donated to medical science to further research into the causes of hyper manic schizophrenia.

Ibra might not have won on the European fronts, but we all know how he led Ajax, Juve and Inter to domestic glories. He's a legend of the game, one that started scoring in Elite Europe right from the day he recieved his debut, he doesn't need to win it to prove his worth.

There are martians who have been exiled from mars for being daft, who are less daft than you.

In the last two months, these have been your idiotic assertions:

- Boateng is better than JT
- Hazard is a failure
- Any player international and UCL success eludes is a joke
- Goetze is better than Ibrahimovic and Beckham
- Hazard isn't among the top 20 players in the world
- Bosingwa was a better defender than Azpilicueta

and to the biggest of the iranus. . .

- Muller is better than Nedved

Without a shadow of doubt, you're in pole position to land the annual most idiotic poster of the year award.

Congratulations fella.

I don't expect you to stop now with the in-flow of insults and garbage claims, this is what you were born for

Look at this malignant atorobara!

Emotional or sentimental? You are clearly psychotic. What a confused little boy. You begin with the insults but cower when you are given your size

Ibra has left Inter they are still winning domestic glories you buffoon! You make it sound like these clubs were not winners before and after he left. How can any individual who is not morose claim Ibra does not need to win the Champions League or at least get past the semi-final to belong in the pantheon of true greats. Can you point to any marquee or seminal moment in his career in the Champions League?

You are a leech and a disgusting parasite of the worst kind and that is worse than being daft. What a sorry excuse for a human being

Explain to us why Mueller is not better than Nedved, why Hazard with 2 goals from open play is not a failure in the Champions League, why Goetze at 22 is already deciding World Cups helping his team to CL Finals and a 4-time champion in his country, why Bosingwa who made Euro Team of the Tournament in 2008 and needed just one season to become the best RB is not as good as Azpilicueta

I'm also waiting for you to show me where I said a player must 'WIN' a major tournament rather than perform creditably in them to be a success. Mr I support Germany but I don't know who Matthias Sammer is

You are the biggest doofus in the annals of this forum. Omo animashaun oshi product of an illicit drunk phuck

Weyrey alaso alainironu

Bimffo:
1stly, You are funny.. .. Whats with the curses..

2ndly, baba forget that side.. Azpilicueta is a better defender to Bosingwa.. Bosingwa is just good at attacking with the ball.. But when it comes to doing his primary work which is to defend, he is always owned!

No be me start am oo. When ninjas overstep their boundary you have to put them in check.

The 2nd part of your statement can you verify it? He was always owned but became the best right back in your league the very year he joined. Azpilicueta ko David Guetta ni

AirborneLacer:
Kilo ndamu e? S’onsiere ni?

You have the unfortunate distinction of being both unreliable and silly.

Nne gi na nna gi bu ezigbo anuofia.

If you've got problems with arguing without being plain insultive, then I'll advice you to find a way to deal with it.

You are ret@rd! Ti ko ba je pe aye n se e. You will not be disgracing yourself on a public forum. Oponu ayerada

This phoolish alabosi is claiming morals. Were you not the one that began with the veiled insults and snide remarks? You get paid back in coin and the beesh in you comes to the fore

AirborneLacer:
Zlatan keeps banishing thee naysayers by playing arguably career best football, and you're here drawing questions marks over his ability to perform in the biggest matches, like as if that's the sole criterion to judge a great player.

See this ajigunjaale! What makes virtuoso athletes if not their performances on the biggest of stages. How can you claim he is better than certain players but you cannot provide the goals or laurels to back it up. You must be dyslexic

AirborneLacer:
This is a dude who can be unplayable on his day, and is easily not only one of the best players in the world today, but arguably one of the finest of his generation. Na him you dey put for thisame sentence with Goetze cos the latter has a WC and UCL title to his name?

Unplayable on his day but for the 5th straight year his team has yet to get past the UCL quarterfinal. When will this day come? Truly you are a capital eediot

AirborneLacer:
I pray Sango feasts on you tonite.

Sango don pokun so. Better join him A$AP

AirborneLacer:
You know ziltch about Chelsea, so save me this your prologue.

Every Cfc fan who knows his football quite well knows that Azpi is a better defender than Bosingwa.

All these opata you're out to yarn can wait.

What's the next news, Muller is better than Nedved?

You are just a nuisance masquerading as a fan. You have shown your a$s numerous times in public and this is clearly another instance. Bosingwa's first year at Chelsea he was the best RB in the league. 2nd year was lost to injury, he even missed the World Cup! 3rd year Chelsea finished trophyless but in the final year helped Chelsea to an FA Cup and UCL double

Azpili is only making impact in his 3rd season at Chelsea. Yet you are categorically claiming Azpi is better. What an ewok!

Mueller is definitely better than Nedved. A mugu that does not know Matthias Sammer would not know that

Bimffo:
We all know Boatank is worse na.. He is not a Failure. But he is not world class!

He is not world class nau. But somehow someway he keeps starting for the best National team in the world and one of the best 4 teams in Europe over the last 4 seasons

raumdeuter:
Lol. So na newspapers stand analysts full here so.

The Champions League is the place both played and it's the top competition in Europe.

If we use the league some would argue that some leagues are more difficult than others but champions League is a leveler and neymar shitts on Hazard everyday

So if we don't use champions League what should we use. Carling cup or FA cup

Shebi they said La Liga is Scottish League. We have moved to Champions League but they are still giving excuses.

Hazard is the best because he created 100 chances in the EPL this year yet his team has only crossed the second round in Europe's marquee competition just once since he got there.

Neymar has scored more goals, helped his team further but somehow Hazard is better. You can't make this kind of tomfoolery up

Bimffo:
Wetin person no go hear for this place.. For some1 that has not played for a neighbourhood club at agege, calling hazard a failure.. Impressive.!

In the past 1 Year, he has fantasied about how his Club will sign Hazard..

OK, he is a failure, what do you want us to do? Throw him away.?

HE IS OUR BEST PLAYER AND WE WILL FLAUNT HIM THE WAY WE WANT!!! HE IS BETTER THAN NEYMAR, ITS OUR OPINION! IF YOU ARE NOT COOL WITH THE STATEMENT, KINDLY HANG YOURSELF.

REST IN PEACE TO ALL HIS HATERS.

If people can label a World and UCL Champion like Boa-TANK a failure and make all kind of ignorant memes for him then Hazard is worse than a failure

R.I.P to Boa-TANK haters

AirborneLacer:
What are you?
Your responses makes me wonder if you're some prepubescent ruffian.
If you really consider other factors whilst judging who's a better player, what stops you from making them known? Why do you keep harping on achievements?
Hazard gets to create 100 chances, yet you and your demented bunch of retards would claim he isn't in anyway productive. Hazard wins every honor there's to win in England, you and your dogs would claim he needs to win in Elite Europe.

Ogbeni shut up! Ewu onitsha

Why shouldn't I harp on achievements? Then why do we bother with professional football. Let them scrap the leagues, Champions League, World and Euro Cups and let's just be playing jeun jeun football with no aim in particular. How can so much phoolishness be embedded in one human being

Who cares if he creates 5000 chances? What is his track record outside your useless league? On what grounds does he stand with his supposed contemporaries when he has neither the goals nor laurels to show for it. Simple question you have refused to answer instead you bring out far-fetched examples and keep making gaffe after gaffe.

Even Hazard himself has come out to say he must win the Champions League to be labeled a top player. Yet you are here groaning and 'welping' like
a castrated bull-frog

AirborneLacer:
How objective have you been in those debates?
Bosingwa in his fantasy state can never be better than Azpi, know your game.
Admit it nigga, you're phucking filing in your visceral views, hoping that we'll buy them.
I ask again, is Goetze a better player than Ibrahimovic?

Bosingwa's bane was lack of longevity and serious injuries. He was the undisputed best RB in your league his first year at Chelsea if I recall. Solid defensively and waay better than Azpili on offence.

He never did get his form back but was a very important player in your backline especially in 2011/2012. Abi you forgot how he stepped up after John Racist got sent off? Even when it comes to the Chelsea you claim to support I will still son you

Bosingwa was a very solid player. That you try to rubbish or downplay his efforts merely highlight your buffoonery

Ibra is a well known big game flop and Goetze at 22 has already achieved more than Ibra. However this is yet again another one of your long lists of eediotic questions! They are at opposite ends of their careers and play different positions. You would soon ask us who is better btw Neymar and Schweinsteiger. That is how eediotic you can be

Davidbanky:
That's the team u are comparing to QPR ...

Money that they will squander on wages. Mscheww
When you see their income to wage ratio you wonder what the noise is about

AirborneLacer:
I tend to ask you a lot of questions, hoping that you'll retract from posting too many tampons.

Achievements and title don't underline the true worth of a player.

I once expounded how supporting cast play a vital role in winning laurels.

Bosingwa has 2 UCL medals in his locker. If we're to follow your assertion, I'm sure you'll say he's better than Azpilicueta who's yet to win it.

This was thisame mistake you were making when you asserted that Boatenk is better than JT.

Nigga free Hazard abeg.

I just think you are irretrievably dense. That is why you are incapable of asking even one intelligent question

In your infinite naivete you think I merely measure a player's greatness by being a member of a winning team alone. Nyet! I also look at their contributions to those wins

Bosingwa in his prime was as good as if not better than Azpilicueta. It is a pity that even the club you support you know so little about. I remember back then Chelsea fans praising him to the highest heavens.

My only mistake was engaging someone who doesn't know Sammer was one of the best defenders in his generation in a debate

AirborneLacer:
What achievements really?

What has Neymar achieved compared to Hazard's?

Do you just type and argue for the sake of it?

If scoring more goals in Europe is the achievement you're talking about, then I guess it's high time you quit puffing roasted ants.

It seems you have guinea worms in your eyes.

A player is only in his second season in Europe and has helped his team to a double and the CL Final with a whopping 9 goals (from open play) I'm not even going to list his performances at the WC and Confederation Cup. A player who has shone in Europe's elite competition and the WC and you are juxtaposing him with a local champion like Hazard.

I don't expect an obtuse m0ron like you to understand that goals win games

Since your local Champion has arrived Chelsea you have only gotten past the first knockout round once! Did it occur to you Mr Oluku that perhaps local champion's inability to score more than 2 goals from open play could be one of the decisive factors

homesteady:
Even bale who was the most criticized player in the world was more productive than Hazard

Standards differ.

raumdeuter:
Spurs, Milan and Madrid for the Audi cup this year

I don't know why they had to ruin it with Spurs. Even Benfica, Porto or PSG would have been better

4 time German Champion, UCL Finalist, 2 time DFB Pokal, World Cup winner, World cup final matchwinner. All at 22

Happy 23rd (MJ) year to Mario Omo-oro Goetze

Ibime:
Why all your pictures in Black and White?

In my era of watching footie, Bayern has little bragging right over Chelsea in UCL.

No be only black and white na black and yellow. Shey you never hear of grayscale?

How can it be so when even the 1970 WC came in color.

Sorry football did not start in your era

Our UCL ratio is 5:1. We can dash you two titles and you still won't have more

League title 5:1

By all intents and purposes una no dey our level same way Juve with 2 titles cannot brag to a Madridista with 10

AirborneLacer:
All these one na grammar. You're only supplying us with epistles from Apostle Paul.

Was Nedved a success on the international and UCL fronts? You claim to know your game, so I expect you to answer this with ease.

You're of the opinion that any player who International and UCL success eludes is a local champion and a failure.

So I ask, are Ibrahimovic and Nedved who never won on the international and CL scenes failures? Would you say they had a horrendous career because they couldn't lift the UCL and WC? Would you consider an average player like Goetze a bigger talent because he won more?

Answers on a postcard abeg.

You seem really talented at asking very stewpid questions.

I gave a very detailed response in my previous post to you. If you have eyesight issues ask someone to read and explain

It takes a special kind of buffoon to label Goetze an average player when he has surpassed the achievements of your local champion and best player at the tender age of 22. Goetze is as big a talent if not bigger, Ibra did not match Goetze's achievements at 22 and neither did Nedved. However this is an extremely phoolish question and comparison because Goetze is not even halfway into his career

List out Nedved and even Ibra's achievements and tell us how many Hazard has surpassed

timbros:
Which achievements if I may ask? UCL trophies? Personal awards?

I'm not going that lane wit you cuz you asked me to focus on the biggest competition in Europe. Let's focus please.

Neymar was voted the 3rd best player at the last World Cup.

9 goals in one season in the UCL. More than Hazard's combined total

Already in the UCL Final. A feat Hazard has never achieved

Whether UCL whether World Cup Neymar trumps Hazard from every angle

lordfalcao:
i know you re mad man.... But i didnt know is this serious
nwanne nzuzu mara gi ahu

Ta ni arindin asinwin yii? Iru soro wo lo n se e gaan naa

Sergio Ignoramus

bigkesh:
No where to be found? Better get an electron microscpe lens as glasses cos Lahm, zidane and universal pundit can find him easily

Pele also found Nii Lamptey, Godwin Opara etc while Maradona thought Mueller was a ball boy. Opinion will not score goals or provide assists on the pitch, pundits will not help Hazard get to the Final of the UCL, World or Euro Championships

timbros:
NEYMAR
0 UCL medal.
0 Golden boot
HAZARD
0 UCL medal.
0 golden boot.
So what's all the noise about?

Tell us why Hazard's performance is so poor

timbros:
Whatever that means... Back to sender

What brings about Neymar's double in Spain when you asked me to leave Hazard's EPL season and focus on "Europe biggest competition"? As if Hazard doesn't have his own double in England. Is that how biased you guys are?

I expect to see Neymar's number of trophies in Europe’s biggest competition.

Neymar is a full year younger than Hazard but his achievements have already dwarfed that of the local champion.

What double? You call that WAFU cup equivalent Capital One a double? The winner does not get to qualify for anything in the event that they fall out the top 6 that is how useless the competition is

bigkesh:
gotze with 1 goal won the world cup for Germany? Robben led bayern to 3 CL finals, 2 of which he blew himself.....

. Using Dayo's rubbish logic, what is robben's biggest game ever? Wc final, how did he perform? Gifted spain the trophy.......
Whats schurrle biggest game? How did he perform? 1 assist.....

Schurrle >robben

Odensin Goetze scored 2 goals.

He blew us two but won us one. At all at all na him bad

He redeemed himself by winning Bayern the Champions League.

Robben CL winner, 3x Finalist. World Cup Finalist

Only a buffoon would suggest Schuerrle is better than him

The question everyone is dodging is why is Hazard nowhere to be found both for club and country

raumdeuter:
Neymar 13 CL goals in 2 seasons average 6.5 goals per season
Muller 28 CL goals in 6 seasons average 5 goals per season
Bale 9 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3 goals per season
Reus 10 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3.3 per season
Gotze 9 CL goals in 4 seasons average 2.25

HAZARD 5 CL goals in 4 seasons average 1.2 goals per season and 0.5 goals from open play per season

^^^ That above is the definition of failure

Leave them let them keep overhyping Azadus like TAN folks did with GEJ

Ibime:
2004 to 2012, Bayern were our sons in Europe.
.

This is like a Juve fan bragging to a Madrid fan when the UCL title ratio is 5:1. If say na AC Milan wey get 7 I for even hear

Your sons? Say whaaat

timbros:
He won the double in Europe’s biggest competition?

Se o mu Orijin yo ni? What does this question even mean?

bigkesh:
u are a pure blockhead..... Nd Manuel Neuer keeps against who?? Hamburg and kolns? When he got exposed to real attackers we all saw how mignolet he was, robben and ribery play against who? Gotze is a big stage flop playing against who

Dnt tell me trash oga......

Your ignorance has gotten to a nuclear stage! Someone that shutout Ronaldo, Benzema and Messi at the last World Cup na him you dey compare to Hazard?

Let us reel out Neuer's laurels and compare it with Hazard's. Efulefu

Mario Goetze was deciding World Cup Finals and helping Dortmund to a CL Final at 22

Robbery led Bayern to 3 CL Finals.

Your delusion must be Tony Tetuila cos it has no remedy

timbros:
LOL....

So what does Neymar have to show? How many UCL have he won? How many WC? How many highest goal scorer (both WC and UCL) ? How many top assist (both WC and UCL)?

Shifting goal post as usual.

Cc A-40

Only a biased mind will overlook 'overall performance' and isolate a competition that suits him to rate a player.

He has already won a double in only his 2nd year in Europe. Gunning for a treble

9 goals in the Champions League. Almost double of Hazard's total in 1 year

4 goals in one WC to Hazard's none. I will not even go to their overall goalscoring records for country because the gulf is embarrassing

Any competition you want to use Mueller and Neymar destroy Hazard and the margin is very wide

timbros:
Can you spare me all those stats? You asked me to focus on the biggest Europe competition and you're here giving me WC stats.

Of what use is Ronaldo's 16 goals in UCL without a medal? Did any of those goals give him even a UCL golden boot award?

You talk a lot about context but I don't see you applying it here. UCL is the metric because I recognized not all players come from traditional football powers

Ronaldo didn't win the UCL but he also did not drop a pathetic 2 goals from open play in Europe's elite competition after 3 seasons.

You are yet to explain what any of this has to do with Hazard and why it vindicates him. Last I checked he does not have a WC medal

timbros:
Fact is, Hazard looks at his trophy cabinet, no Champions League medal (for now), no UCL golden boot (for now), 1 Europa League medal.

Ronaldo looks at his trophy cabinet, no Champions League medal, no UCL golden boot, 1 UEFA cup medal.

Like you asked me to, I'm focusing on "biggest Europe competition".

Ronaldo De Lima has 36 goals in all European competitions

Tell us about Hazard! International medal he no get, UCL he no get, goals he no score

So please tell us why Hazard belongs among the elite? And why anyone in their right minds would say he is as good as Mueller or Neymar

bigkesh:
Is it until i refer u to the super cup where Bastian and boateng where dusting their body after hazard put them in there place Or where he sent lahm to play guitar with the corner flag and scored a back pass from 'mignoneuer'??

Did you win the game? You lost after being thoroughly outplayed from start to finish! So in 3 years of elite European Football that is the only achievement 24 year old Hazard can boast of? What a shame

No wonder his name rhymes with one hit wonder Azadus. Although come to think of it he had two hits which makes Hazard even worse

AirborneLacer:
You're just knowing?

The last time I made a sarcastic analogy with Matthaus, the nigga was quick to accuse me of comparing his god with JT.

Actually, this is what happens when someone is sentiment-ridden. You're up against the most emotional figures this forum have got

Sarcastic? More like eediotic! Abeg swerve!

When Raumdeuter said he discriminated based on intelligence I thought he was just goading but its evident he was driving at something.

All these placebo analysts. You showed your arse and instead of admitting your folly you are doing cartwheels in eediocy Anyone who doesn't know the exploits of one half of the Iron Curtain can not possibly be taken serious in any football debate

You are just ignorant

AirborneLacer:
According to the warped assertion of my friend 40, anyone International and UCL success eludes is definitely a local champion.

I'm sure lbrahimovic and Nedved are having a hell of a laugh now

Forum heavyweights.

Of course that is a very valid assertion. How can merely shining in league competitions validate the legacy of a player. Listing Ibrahimovic a perennial big game ghost only buttresses your buffoonery.

Nedved at least helped his club to a CL Final and his country to a Euro Final and semi-final. Only an obtuse fellow like you would compare him to a local champion like Hazard who has no record to boast of either in the CL or for Belgium

You are a flyweight.