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Excellent display by Julian Green last night! A star is born it seems

Thank God the boy go soon leave for Madrid so we go hear word small

toba: You are the clueless one here. You’re still not getting it

No one can get the level of your stoopidity

toba: Getting agitated wouldn’t still help your case. Was Toni Kroos' ball a contributing factor to the goal or not? All these BS doesn’t provide any answer to the Question.

Agitation is the wrong word more like irritation! Your eediocy irritates me

toba: What about the person that even played the ball to the part of Bruno Alves?

What about the person that played the ball to Toni Kroos? Remember we are talking deliberate contributions not accidental ones! It was a bad cross till Bruno Alves miscontrolled it

toba: Try to reason with your head guy. When the goal will become a subject, there would be 3 people that would be talked about. Toni would be one of them for taking the corner kick. Yes or No?

Really? What’s your definition of contribution?

Assuming we even include this corner-kick you are so desperately clinging on to that is still "2 contributions" out of 9 goals so tell me how this makes him the largest 'contributor' of goals? Mugun

toba: Your IQ seems lower than I thought.

I was in a town couple of days ago, where things aren’t free, even though the word 'free' is part of the name of the town. During the 3 nights that I spent there in a Hotel, the world cup became a subject, especially the French National team being a French speaking country. Some spoke in English and French. If I’m to relay what I heard, whilst they were discussing in the reception area, would you still regard them as my cronies?

As there exist a Thread for Arsenal fans, assuming Mukina started criticizing Arsene Wenger, whilst Edoyad took on Ozil, by making reference to the discourse, would also qualify me as a crony? You really need a checkup. I’m not surprised sha. You're out of Gas and have no point to make, hence your resort to frivolity

Tales by moonlight! Stop denying your compadres

toba: What nonsense is this one saying? You hardly comprehend what you read. Sites are uploaded by human being, hence you can never expect 100% correctness like a 'god'
Are all websites discussing Toni Kroos? SMDH

Your point exactly is what? All sites are uploaded by Human beings, yet no human is like God. There're couple of sites apart from whoscored.com/Opta that are being relied upon, based on their correctness as well. So what?

You must be dyslexic! Who brought up the matter of websites? Clearly your dementia is far worse than I thought! I made an opinion and in your phoolish haste to win an argument you brought up a website which unfortunately for you backed up my opinion
And you are here talking about sites being uploaded by human being! Before? Na the orisa for your village dey upload am

toba: Smh. Once again calm you nerves down. You wouldn’t be paid by anyone for getting over reactive on a faceless forum like this. What can you deduce from whoscored.com? Was Toni ranked outside the Top 4 on whoscored.com based on what you read thereon?


No it didnt contradict anything. You simple don’t understand what you read on the site or simple twisting the trust as usual. Lobatan.

Shut up you obdurate donkey! No one is overreacting to anything. The ratings on whoscored.com showed how Kroos managed to finish below 4 players 3 of them playing out of their default position

Müller
Hummels
Götze
Höwedes

Were all rated higher than Kroos!

toba: Rubbish again. You're still on a long thing failing to fully understand the point I’m making. The ball was played in by kroos. He could have decided to take a shot but chose to send the ball as a cross. Is it possible to rule out the cross, whilst talking about the goal?

You are a clueless noob! Who cares what he decided to do? Delivering a hopeful cross that did not get to its destination is what you are claiming as contribution! It would not even count as a key pass or chance created but a failed cross you eediot!

toba: GOAL FOR GERMANY! 3-0! Kroos whips the ball into the area and Thomas Muller latches onto Alves' poor clearance, and the Bayern man hits it past Patricio to double his tally for the game.[/color] [/b]
http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/305774/commentary
I wonder if anyone who has a brain and can think well would talk about Muller's goal and not mention how the goal came about.

Look at this mutton! Bruno Alves deserves more credit than Toni Kroos for that goal!

toba: And without that same corner kick being well delivered will we be talking about the goal? Credit must be given to those who deserve it.

Coming from you this is quite rich! Going by your asinine definition of contribution the person who forced the corner kick deserves credit as well afterall without that person there is no corner

toba: You're the one lacking tact here cos you're deliberately twisting the truth. Was it a contribution or not is the question I’m asking. Did the cross or crosses lead to goals or not?

If its not a key pass or a CCC then it is not a contribution! There is a reason Kroos has just one assist!

toba: Pathetic. Stop chasing shadows as if you've run out of Gas. Witnesses to the fact that i was involved in discussion with anyone or I stood far off, whilst those guys were on their own discussing? Please show me the witness, except if you were among those guys talking that day from a far, whilst I cooled off in my car, waiting for the tyre to be fixed.

You must possess Vulcan hearing then if you were not in their midst to listen to their discussion and relay it here verbatim! They are obviously your cronies so I wonder why you are ashamed of them hehehehe

toba: Bravo And I can remember asking you if those who are behind those sites that you and i rely on are superhuman or just mere mortal, prone to slight bias. Whether goal.com, Espn, whoscored.com etc, these websites are being uploaded by a living being not robot, especially when it comes to review. The subject of this discourse is centered on review. i.e how Toni Kroos fared after the first 3 games at the WC

Really? So you think every analyst out there is biased against Kroos or what? Cos if you do then you must be off your rockers!

Sites like Whoscored.com rely on Opta who also provide data in the EPL and a lot of other respected sports sites! Stats that are relied upon by coaches and managers across Europe. Their knowledge is not infinite but their metrics are at least tangible and measurable and are much more reliable than your opinion and that of your other Ebute Metta analysts

toba: Its too early for all these biased assessment. I guess you trust http://www.whoscored.com. Please visit the site and come back here to eat your words that Toni Kroos isnt among Germany's 4 best players so far after 3 games.

This was your initial statement you mugun! Abi have you lost all ability to read? Clearly you must have thought the site backed your assertions, or perhaps you are just ret@rded like I suspected all along or why else would you tell me to visit the site and eat my words

toba: I read couple of sites and also checked the average ratings for the 3 games and from none did i find Toni Kroos not to be among the top 4 performers for Germany. I've said I saw, it’s for you to counter my claim.

I don't need to counter your claim you eediot! the only site you provided so far directly contradicts it already! Bwahahaha

I heard Mustafi is done for the tournament! This is fantastic news cos how he made the team I would never know!

I can't argue too much about the backline because it was largely out of necessity but I hope Hummels is back on time for the game against France! How Neuer managed not to commit a foul or concede a goal playing the sweeper role I would never understand and I hope we don't witness a re-occurrence against France

Loew is a well known Guardiola-stan so I expect him to move Boateng to RB and still play Lahm in the middle even when he is barely managing there. What is so hard about playing the best Right back in the World at his position? While Boateng pairs Hummels

Schweini and Kroos have to do better in that midfield! The much-maligned Khedira actually made a significant difference when he came on I see no reason why he shouldn't start against France

In the attack is where things get a little tricky! Götze was poor against Algeria and to an extent so was Özil but this is to be expected when you keep playing people out of their natural positions! Both guys are #10 so you are only going to get some improvisation and not their best. However with Schürrle I still think he thrives better as a livewire off the bench but it would be understandable if he got a start in the next game

I also wonder why guys like Durm, Grosskreutz and Draxler are yet to get any playing time so far

toba: bbc says
FC Bayern München midfielder Toni Kroos has reportedly agreed a £4m-a-season deal with Real Madrid C.F. after rejecting three lucrative offers from Manchester United, Chelsea Football Club and FC Barcelona.

Best news of the day

toba: This is really getting pathetic from you. How do you think the commentaries were when the ball was played by Kroos? Was it described as a bad or failed cross? Or described as a cross from toni kroos was badly controlled to Muller's path. Also the Corner kick he delivered can also be described as a bad cross to have been headed towards Klose? Honestly you have no point at all.

Loool like I said you are a serious jester for attributing an opportunistic moment by Müller to the cross of Kroos! Even though Müller pounced on the loose ball and scored whether you like it or not it is already recorded as a failed cross! It smacks of desperation on your part to include that to Kroos's contribution. Rubbish

toba: Going by this your illogical assumption, then the player who started the run that led to the ball being played for a corner kick can also be said to be part of it. What I’m simply telling you, which seems to be beyond your comprehension is that was a player delivers a good ball a ball that led to the goal, then he was part of it. Manuel Neuer sent a long ball during the 2010 WC to which was miscalculated by Upson, which Klose capitalized on to give Germany the lead against England. Can we also call the ball a bad cross?

This is very moronic! Are you using your logic against yourself? Without the corner being forced where does your darling Kroos get an assist to begin with since he is yet to provide one from open play

We are talking about deliberate contributions and you are talking about accidental ones. What a noob!

toba: If this lazy attempt to trivialize a serious discourse is what is termed as imparting knowledge, then i have to laugh out seriously. When you run out of gas, you can choose to start chasing shadows. I guess you know more about this ur Ebute Metta Kinsmen than i do, hence ur act of always bringing their matters up in a serious discourse. I can’t even remember when or where I joined any conversation/discourse in Ebute Metta. You're probably a seer. Can please remind me?

Hahaha are you denying your people? There are witnesses here man! Abi na because Seun database don wipe out? There is God uhh ooo

toba: Guy, calm your nerves and don’t get worked up over a discourse on a faceless forum. Using vulgar words wouldn’t help your case. I implore you to let us remain civil for as long as discourse last. You responses and your overly being religious about the stats and review on a web page suggests you didn’t watch the game and you indirectly admitted this, when you asked, If I watch all matches.

Worked up? Lol are you Frank Spencer in disguise? Please save me your lecture ain't nobody got time for that

It is eediotic suggestions like these that make me resort to insults when it comes to you! Stats are part of football! And can be used to validate opinions or correct wrong notions. Die Mannschaft came to this tournament with a shyte load of statisticians and data analysts! As a data guy myself it is only normal to crosscheck opinion with cold hard facts. Football has gone scientific only a donkey would chose to close his eyes to that fact. Men lie Women lie Numbers don't!

You must be high on Gum Arabic to mistake that for indirectly admitting I didn't watch the game.

toba: How? May be I’m missing something

Smh. Is this what can be deduced from what you read on who scored.com? Was it stated thereon that Kroos wasn’t among the top 4 performers during the group games?

You are missing something infact you have missed it already

The facts are there for you to see! You posted the links yourself! Is reading a chore to you or can you not see that 4 players were rated higher than Toni Kroos in the group stage? Please make use of the site and stop asking me stoopid questions

ItGeek: There are positives from the game.[b] The referee was on a mission to send us out[\b]

Bosnia says hi

Opelope Schürrle ooh! Magnificent finish too

Loool I tire oo! When I said Loew was a Guardiola copycat I wasn't making idle statements. Make we see as e dey go sha! The Algerian keeper has been massive

El Guapo: Ibime has sounded it out here for aeon that Mikel dorning Chelsea's jersey is all thanks to Emenalo, the dude is the slowest creature to have ever graced the turfs.

We lost as a result of loss of concentration and not being able to give the french ninjas something to worry about whenever we're on their halve.

Expect the Nigerian modafucker at the glass house to sack Keshi and replace him with Onigbinde all in the name of stability.

Its a shame! And people were actually arguing he should have been African footballer of the Year ahead of Yaya Toure. 4 matches and this guy didn't do shyte

We were utter crap in the 2nd half and I strongly feared that would be the case after we failed to get at least a goal for our efforts in the first half! In a knockout match you just have to take your chances. Simple as that

tobiboss: When some peeps start criticizing mikel, i just laugh, what are you expecting before? For him to maraud through the midfield and take on the opposition defence and score a screamer?? He's been shìt for 8yrs and you expect him to change to zidane overnight, if anytin i blame that big bellied old man keshi, i wonder if he and mikel are gay partners sef, btw, we played too much through the flanks, cause of not having any playmaker(aluko, mba, joel obi, heck even ogu comes to mind) emenike can't perform when he's isolated from teammates and has to drift out wide to have an effect on games(ideye his gay partner also comes to mind). All in all, super eagles really tried, kudos to onazi, ambrose, osaze, omeruo, enyeama, musa(though am nt sure he played the france game) oshaniwa and yobo(stop criticizing him)

Lack of a playmaker ultimately screwed us! Its a shame that Osaze, Emenike have to score and also provide goals for themselves

How did Mikel last so long at Chelsea? This is a phuckin disgrace! How can you have played in elite Europe for 8 years and refused to add any dimension to your game

toba: This is real Bullshitz to say the least. Im telling you not about assist only, but in terms of contribution towards the goals Germany has scored. You are always in a haste to respond and fail to comprehend my points. The ball or pass or cross that Bruno Alves played to Muller was delivered by you?

What nonsense contribution is that? Is that your definition of contribution? A bad cross that went to the opposition man na him you dey term as contribution? In any statistics that qualifies as a failed cross/pass! You are actually giving Kroos credit for Müller's intelligence? What a joke!

toba: The corner kick that was headed towards Klose to equalize against Ghana was also delivered by Gotze? I’m saying he's had more contribution to most of the goals Germany scored in the group games than any other player. Fault that claim if you can.

His stats read only 1 assist! We can also say the player that forced the corner also contributed to the goal going by your asinine definition of contribution!

toba: Rubbish and Nonsense. Get real if you've got balls to argue

With all the knowledge being imparted in you on here you should be enlightening your Ebute Metta brethren instead of always chatting megedefegede

toba: LWKMDie. Who told you or who proved you right about Toni Kroos not being among the top 4 performers for Germany in the group stage? I posted the link cos i remember you didnt watch the Germany vs Cameroun Friendly and Religiously depended and defended that same site. What's the yardstick used in ranking Kroos out of the Top 4 performers for Germany

You need to stop behaving like an illiterate! Especially when you are pretty much laughing at yourself! You must be quite ret@rded to claim I didn't watch a match I actually watched.

Whoscored.com verified my arguments that day and it has verified my argument again today! Are you not the mugun that posted whoscored.com and told me to go there and eat my words about Kroos but alas and unfortunately for you I was right all along! Kroos is not among Germany's top 4 performers if you like argue till you are blue in the face that is not going to change

SailorXY: e be like say this Luke Shaw price dey pain you gaan; its actually £27m rising to £31m based on what happens in future. Buttner was sold for around £6m - £7m, so that cushions the expenditure as well. if I'm to use Rio Ferdinand as an example, it may be worth it but we have to wait & see.

E no concern me oo! Is it my money? All I was doing was trying to stress a point. The gulf between performance and experience level for Robben and Luke Shaw is too vast and no age difference can make up for that

SailorXY: nobody else, not even City & Real Madrid, will buy Mr-lose-concentration for that amount! the French sugar daddies has to be the worst in Europe

Robben can't be more than £30m cuz he (will) has no resale value & will only go downhill in terms of output

Well then French sugar daddies it is! Perhaps Bayern sells to a club that does not care about resale value. I would rather keep Robben than sell for a relative pittance of £30m thanks to today's transfer market

toba: Podolski is injured

Good news! I would even prefer Draxler to Podudski

toba: SMH at this pathetic comment. So you can lie like this? moribund yet was involved in most of our goals than any other player?

You have serious eye problem! Either that or you are just a pathological liar! What was Kroos's role in any other goal but the Hummels header? Even Müller's 2nd goal was merely a cross Bruno Alves miscontrolled and Müller had the intelligence to pounce on, he has only been credited with just one assist and you are here shamelessly lying through your teeth like you are some almajiri Toni Kroos feeds

toba: Its too early for all these biased assessment. I guess you trust http://www.whoscored.com. Please visit the site and come back here to eat your words that Toni Kroos isnt among Germany's 4 best players so far after 3 games.

This is what happens when you spend too much time around Ebute Metta analysts! I didn't even need to visit whoscored.com to know Toni Kroos was not among Germany's top 4 players and as an erudite scholar of the game I was proven right

Müller. Hummels, Götze, Howedes all rated above Kroos. Bwahahaha

toba: What do they need? Loss right? Is there any club in the world that tranfers doesnt add to their annual profit, no matter how little?

Robben is not getting sold abeg carry your bad belle go front

elampiro: [b]*** What do you guys think is the real market value of Arjen Robben? No sentiments.

This guy is single handedly winning matches for both club and country. It was he who eliminated Man United, in my opinion. I think he is the only one who stands between Messi and player of the tournament award. May be too, James. But James won't get far. I can see Holland already in the semi fianl, and once there anything can happen.

In a world where David Luiz was sold for almost €50mio and Luke Shaw is going for £30m Robben should be worth at least €75m

BTW I hope Loew isn't silly enough to start Podudski this time

toba: You seldom argue without point. I said something couple of days to the WC, that Kroos should be judged after the 3 group games. Muller has scored 4 goals thus far, what was kroos' contribution to those goals? Germany has scored 7 goals thus far, how many was kroos involved in the build up to them. You need to know how to assess players.

Abeg go and sleep! Kroos only involvement came against Portugal and he has only played a role in one of Müller's goals all tournament long and since then he has been moribund. You are the only one here that cannot assess players

toba: Robben didnt score today, but was involved in both goals scored by Holland.

Highly laughable comparison! Robben is Holland's MVP, Kroos is not even among Germany's best 4 players at this tournament

toba: I've never said Bayern should sell Robben. The rumour is that Bayern was/would be offered 50m for Robben. Business wise, its profit for Bayern cos we bought him for less than 40m and he has done very well since 2009.

Bayern don't need no profit from player sales gee

Let's see where Loew plays Lahm tomorrow! Algeria have the pace to worry that 4 CB formation. If Die Mannschaft advance a potential tie between France and NIGERIA await lool now that would be something

toba: u wan start abi? Most of the goals we've scored were orchestrated by one person. Same way Ronaldo won Ballon d'or just for scoring goals, without recognition for the likes of Ozil who assisted.

Ozil is yet to turn up, whilst kroos has been the assist King. Give him credit for good deliveries

Taaah! Which nonsense assist king? Kroos has only one good game till date and even in that game he was overshadowed by Müller time and in every other game since then he has been pure caca!! He definitely won't get the money he wants from Bayern with the way its going

Shebi the same Robben you wan make we sell na him we dey see dey beast so

kliq: Lol @ A-40,those NBA finals moment gone but then life must go on.

Wade,Bosh,James and Haslem opted out.....creating a salary cap space of $55m(wow)
I just hope the Heat's bandwagon(plastic) fans won't follow suit by also opting out too.

They are free-agents as we speak. I heard the Raptors are going really hard to get Bosh back and are ready to give him a max deal

SailorXY: if you.believe say 200m dey to spend na u sabi that one; I don't believe that. 150m max...
if I had a say, I'll pay for James Rodriguez even if na £45m. sell Young & Nani for combined of around £18m
pay around £25m for Hummels & around £40m for Vidal
sell Carrick & Cleverley for a combined fee of around £18m if I'm lucky
sell Rooney for £35m if I'm lucky
that's net spend of like £40m

Monaco bought Rodriguez for around that amount and with the World Cup he is having yall may have to cough out at least £100m afterall you guys paid £30m for an unproven LB

Na waa oo! So all those my memes and the beautiful basketball moments San Antone gave us is gone just like that

If I'm Dirk I'd pretty much be asking for a trade! What kind of asinine GM trades for phucking Raymond Felton? Teams literally start winning the minute he leaves their locker room! While they are both poor defenders Calderon is a far more efficient passer and is a far better shooter than Felton. Its also laughable that they traded back for a Chandler they shouldn't have let go in the first place! With no first round draft picks the Mavs are pretty much screwed if they don't land Lebron or Melo

Wiggins 1st pick Jabari 2nd pick Embiid 3rd pick I find it interesting that the Sixers pick another injured center after picking Noel last year rather puzzling if you ask me

The Lakers made a smart move drafting Julius Randle kid has mad potential

Lebron opts out and it looks like Kyle Lowry might be joining the Heat. If Kyle joins I suspect one of the big three might walk

Timmie D is also on deck for his 18th season. I kinda think he shoulda retired on top cos the dropoff in performance might be ugly

Thank God for notepad! Nateevs this was the tiki taka debate we were on before NL went comatose

nateevs: Mate. Tiki taka is not the quintessential formula to winning games. It's just another formula to win games. And while it's seems to have dominated an era of football, no one's postulating that it is a guarantee of three points and trophies. Therefore Spain are allowed to lose games. It is not thereby a result of tiki-taka being found out. It's just another game lost and another tournament lost.

Well from your posts it seems you are pretty close to doing that since you lamented about Del Bosque being too direct and not hoarding possession enough with his players like they used to. The consensus seems to be that they would have gotten better results had they played tiki taka am I right?

nateevs: They had Guivarch and Dugarry and they were traditional forwards. Whether they were ideal or not, it doesn't matter. Very different from what Spain did by playing Fab, a midfielder, in attack.

What were Guivarch's and Dugarry's role in their World Cup victory? Combined they didn't provide 2 goals between them!

Spain started traditional strikers in 3 out of the 6 games they played at the Euros! You make it sound like they didn't use strikers at all. I repeat it was out of necessity resorting to Fabregas at the 9! That was never the default plan

nateevs: Again you confuse the issue. You should read my post again. No one is saying Costa is to blame. I do agree with your point on the need to include Costa but you cannot then argue at the same time that they did not change anything.

Spain did not change anything even with the inclusion of Costa. It is not a mutually inclusive incident. I strongly dispute the notion that a veteran coach like VDB would alter his entire system just to accommodate one player who was raw and untested at International level

nateevs: This is why you should not argue that. Unless you are claiming Del Bosque is an id10t, you will fully agree that Del Bosque does know fully well that Costa is not a striker that thrives in a tiki taka system. Therefore stating that they did not change anything is plainly calling Del Bosque a tactical id10t. Especially when a few people are saying that they did change tactically, it should make sense to you to at least consider that they did.

After playing all the tiki-taka in the world you still need a striker who would put the ball in the back of the net. In all of Spain Diego Costa was the most lethal and VDB realized that even with a 1000 Xavis and Iniestas a goalscorer was necessary. Goals are an end and tiki taka is just a means to it. I don't buy the argument that Del Bosque was sure Costa wouldn't fit in to Spain's system and still took him regardless making him the attack's focal point, for a cautious manager who is averse to unnecessary risks this move just doesn't make sense

nateevs: Considering my point of view of balance, I think there is no need for snide remarks. It's a debate of opinions.

You need to chill! At worse I asked a rhetorical question how you upgraded it to a snide remark is rather baffling. I'm too old for that shyte bruh

nateevs: You accept that changes needs to be made but arguing at the same time that they did not change anything. What if, like we have been saying, they really were changing?

The lineup was the same from the last Euros bar Costa and Azpilicueta! Same formation so where is the change?

nateevs: With Thiago Alcantara, Koke, Isco, Munian, Moreno, Morata, Suso, and a plethora of young Spanish players brought up in the same philosophy, it makes sense to want to wait and see.

Till then but for now the style of play has been found out

Müller 2x man of the match, Robben 2x man of the match, Götze 1x man of the match, Shaqiri 1x man of the match, Mandzukic 1x man of the match

Tell me about Kroos prophet Toba

Müller 2x man of the match Robben 2x man of the match Götze 1x man of the match. What can we say about Kroos?

StarBoard: How can an urchin brought up in a brothel be given affection?

The sensitive thug needs a hug as Jigga would say

nitlad: Nitihad ke?


I hope some get stuck in the past, especially DaftBoard and A-fool-at-40 - two abhorrent lunatics.

You were obviously denied companionship and affection as a child hence you grew up to become an attention seeking midget! Sergio IgnoRamOs

Müller on target yesterday, Shaqiri with a hat-trick the day before. Bayern running things at the World Cup as usual

Why is Seun doing Alaroro like this? What kind of weak backend can he possibly be using that makes it possible to break into his site all the time! He should be using Sun Solaris, Oracle 11g and RAC on his server farm (assuming there's one) by now smh

StarBoard: Apparently you forgot to have your daily brain format via electric chair today.

No mind the onigbe. My name stings in his mouth like the canker-sores afflicting his life. Third world demons are giving him the Suarez treatment as we speak

GustavoFring: I can with lead either hand. During training I would have to do 10 sets of 10 combos with each hand

One hand is always stronger! Its just there are some more balanced ninjas and you can always work on the disparity with a good trainer and regimen

GustavoFring: At this point it must be noted that Idime is now arguing with Opta stats with nothing to back him up except his own patent stupiditty.

In real life I fight like Danny Garcia....My Right Hook to the jaw is unstoppable

Idime is something like Audley Harrison -Old, Dumb, and Doesn't know when to quit.

Hahaha me I been think say you be southpaw