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Stupid imam. You collected the cheque knowing full well risky sleeps with men but now turn around to call him gay after discovering the cheque was fake. Screw you!!!

budaatum:
You mean, what about the terrorists in Sri Lanka.....

I hope they get caught and rot in jail!

With a handful of comments of yours I have come upon on here in the past, I have always deemed you to be just about the only genuine Nairaland's atheist

Those terrorists and the masterminds of all these attacks will know no peace in life and in death

Guest007:
What about them... may they rest in peace. Why can't we feel for every human being that has had their life taken from them. Love is the only solution to hate.

That guy is full of shiit-load of hate. A bloody hate-filled contemptible bigot he is.

true2god:
Ok, you have won. The western powers 'invaded' the developing and Muslim world with impunity. Will you allow me have a breathing space now?

No one's won nothing. Amend your ways

true2god:
You seem to be directing your anger to the wrong person. It would have been better for you to engage the US' defense department, and the CIA, for their crime(s) in/against the developing world instead of 'sniffing' on the choice of word I use on nairaland. What difference does it make whether I use the word 'Intervention' or 'Invasion' in this context? You need take a chill pill and stop chasing shadows. I haven't seen any contribution you make on the topic under discussion except your 'fault-finding' exercise and childish tantrum. Grow up big man!

Humans of your ilk are the reasons the world is what is. Your botched attempts at trivialising the weight the word "invasion" holds in such context have shown to everyone the deviousness and devilry of your abjectly dark mind. One doesn't have to be a grammar fusspot to know intervention and invasion are not synonymous.
I don't have problems with your polemical comments but your proclivity to dissimulation on islamic subjects. After all, atheists slate Islam all the time and give me a good laugh in doing so.

Even the holy bible says: speak the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

louiskay:
Learnt something new from that article... "Guardrail"

You've learnt nothing. Does that look like a guardrail?

1stCitizen:
Great to see that Africans are waking up to the fact that Mandela was hyped by the West to get away with their crimes. If the table was turned, the Apartheid leaders and their collaborators will have been hounded like the Nazi's till this day. Mandela was a compromised sell out. Wait until the book detailing all that happened behind the scenes comes out

Thank goodness I'm not alone in this. If it's possible at the moment, can you gimme the name of the book?

handsomeyinka:
Who the hell fast and doesn’t pray?...

Next topic?

E be like say you no dey naija

true2god:
Ad hominem attack! Teach me a better word I should have used instead of attacking my personality since you have a better understanding of international relations. Mind you, I am not posting on Nairaland to seek your patronage.

Retorting the ad hominen drivel could not even camouflage your usually conflagrant insincerity and shenanigans. You always strike me as a dodgy fella, as far as your Islam section persona is concerned, that is, and your word play a few comments back just killed off the unreserved reservations I might have harboured as regards your honesty on islamic matters.
Empiree might not have raised an eyebrow over your mischievous use of "intervention" in place of invasion just so you could gloss away the insensitivity and cruelty of your all-loving America and her stooges but not everyone is so forgiving. Your loving former President Bush intervened, whatever that nonsense connotes, in the state of affairs of sovereign Iraq but came out to say he was sorry. Ain't it an irony, mate. He should rather have shoved his bloody penitence up his filthy arse.
Though this platform is a faceless forum, but always be in the knowledge that not everyone here is a dodo.

true2god:
And FYA, I am against western military intervention in the Arab world.

Your comments in the Islam section invariably smack of mischief, deception, dissimulation, hypocrisy, and much worse dispositions. I'm definitely not on the cudgel here, certainly not. But can you tell me you honestly and truthfully mistook invasion for intervention?
Honest world-politics enthusiasts would cringe at the level of unabashed dishonesty you have just demonstrated.

YouareaBITCH:
Being a Virgin is good, look how it's sweeting most of these guys to say. But how many among u can be in a relationship without asking for sex from the lady? Plz stop being hypocritical.

What about you ladies who look down on a guy if he's not demanding for sex in a relationship.

Empiree:
You understand faah.... Why you dey pretend

Clearly your religious background correlate with this line.

Now you can I see why I earlier wrote that you and movado19 are blessed. The brother exudes knowledge and wisdom in all of his comments.

Lordave:
Jokes?

Check Auto section on Nairaland, there's a foolish thread that was meant to discuss if Benz is overrated or not, but the OP couldn't hide his bitter emotions against Mercedes Benz and German products.

I know that thread. The guy made one of the useless comparisons in modern times.

Britishcoins:
I wish Nigeria youths could acts like this elephant and break this chain and limitation planted upon them by evil politicians.

Word...........

You can take the lead.

Empiree, awon alfa nla ti lo faa. My father used to tell us about one alfa in Ebira land. He was called "Alfa oni tira". According to him, if you go to the alfa for prayer, his only prayers were Fatiha & Solatu Fatih. For example, if you went to him to complain about failing business he would say: you have told Allah your problem not him, may Allah bless your business Fatiha, Solatu fatih. And will bring baraka into that business. No matter the problem you took to him, even if it is village people, na Fatiha, Solatu fatih be the prayer and, in sha Allah, that problem would be over. The likes of this alfa are difficult to come by these days, and the few ones left are old and will leave us soon enough.

One imam said, "awon alfa wonyi aba aye je. Won ani ko si nkan ti onje batini, gbogbo nkan ni sohir." LOL ...

The next generation go suffer ehn. At least, most of us were born when sheikh Adam, Sambo and other alfa nla in Lagos were alive. But the coming generations go meet awon alfa who would give more weight to ahadith than the holy Quran. Even those ahadith would be approached superficially by them.. E don dey happen small small self.

Empiree:
Who are our brothers and sisters in ilorin here?. What's going on in that capital?.

I watched chilling video of sheikh Labeeb Agbaji's lecture complaining about lands being sold to Christian to build churches.

He mentioned many areas where Christians dominate or strive to dominate. He said it is the muslims selling them lands and that done Masajid are destroyed and churches are being built in place.

He said this is what Zumrat mumin of the past came to eradicate but current muslim generation are bringing back these idols. He lament about rich greedy Muslims not doing anything to help fellow Muslims is the reason some muslims covert to CHRISTIANITY.

When I was in ilorin 20yrs ago I barely a seen church. Labeeb is not saying that they don't have the right to practice their religion he's saying that muslims are careless and this may lead to religious was decades from now. He said this is what those baba fought for and even went to jail for that like sheikh Okutagidi (ra).

What's wrong with ilorin?. I listened to Sheikh Adam a while back where he warned ilorin for being too fond of themselves due to their Islamic knowledge. He said they need to be careful not to lose their glory.

I was a wee shocked when a boy, who had only spent a few months in ilorin, said there are a handful of churches there. Not that I expected it to be church-free but I didn't think it would be so easy y to locate one. I spent a year in Dutse, Jigawa and I knew only 2 churches then. They were probably more then, but were the obvious ones.

I was discussing with my brother about two years ago, about what awon alfa aweri (alfa zumura) used to do and how we miss them. The ones I known all my life in Lagos are old now. Those alfas were the reasons Islam was able to spread its tentacles in South Western Nigeria, but their legacies are being besmirched by us. Do you know that back in the days Christians used to fear Muslims, so much that you'd hardly find a church near a masjid. All that was by virtue of what the aweri did to them and their churches. Recently, one imam even moaned about how the nasarah are now so ballsy as to build their churches close to masaajid in Lagos 'cos one was being built adjacent to his masjid. Its a common sight in Lagos these days
And with sectarianism so entrenched in our religion, it will be an utterly onerous, if not impossible, task to go back to our root. May Allah bless those babas.

movado19:
For some people, they would rather be in denial and ignorance than face the truth and reality. Everything that does not gel with their whims are rejected. Good luck to them!

If we don't kill sectarianism, it will kill our faith.

Empiree:
It is because they are sick in the head. You can present the Hadith to them with clear proof but they will still reject it. But when some people rejected ahadith of the return of Isa ibn Maryam (as) they called them kufar.

What's the difference between them?.

Exactly. Pot calling kettle black.

Empiree:
Interesting! If they want they can keep rejecting this part of nabuwa. They reject the hadith of 46th part of Nabuwa which is true dream and true vision. When i met a brother on fb a while back he said 'nabuwa ko nabuwa ni'. He rejects the hadith.

If they claim to believe in the ahadith of the Prophet SAW, why then do they deny this? Abi any hadith can now be rejected on whims ni. I'm confused.

movado19:
This is heavy stuff! Wallahi, your brother is loved by Allah! Because if he wasn't he would have gone ahead to carry out those activities and God knows what would have become of him by now!
You are very right about everyone having their differences in different areas of life. Some people have more of somethings than others.
I weep for people who say dreams are nothing or isn't 46th part of Nubuwa, as Empiree stated. How many people have made light of their dreams and ended up either dead or have become a living-dead?
I swear by Allah, true dreams are indeed true.

I don't often dream but when I do, I don't ever take them as a joke.
I once dreamt where the messengers came to me hastily, as if they were running to catch up with me, and the leader said they were sent to deliver this message to me, which is that I must not accompany anyone who invites me to follow them to a funeral! They repeated it three times and then the leader said "we have delivered the message" and as they made to leave, I woke up. This was just before Fajr salat. I began to wonder why anyone would invite me to a funeral when I had none to attend, to begin with, or know anyone who was having one?
This kind of troubled me.
Later that morning, I remembered quite late that I had to go see a couple who were family friends (this was a prior appointment made days before but I forgot about it until that time when I remembered) and on getting there, their domestic help said "ah, oga and madam no dey, dem don common go funeral!!!! I asked her na wetin you talk? she repeated "dem go funeral". "dem wait for you taya and as dem no see you so, na im dem say make i give you the funeral address make you come join them for there" and she proceeded to extend the paper to me. I told her "no, keep the paper and make you tell oga and madam say me i dey go somewhere and no go fit make am to where dem dey and we go see again some other time."
Mind you, we had a prior appointment for me to come over to their home, but funeral was never in the picture. In fact, there wasn't any discussion of anyone's death before this day.

Ahhhhh! bolts of cold ran through my body, my people. I canceled all my appointments for the remainder of the day and went home to think about life and how Allah saved me from whatever was laying in wait for me! I couldn't praise him enough that day. They buzzed my phone in the afternoon that day but I never picked up neither did I answer the phone calls of anyone else for that day. It was a day meant for just me and Allah.
I cannot shout enough.

Wow!! Subhanallah!! This is some incredible stuff coming from you, brother. This your experience is another big proof that dreams are a means of receiving messages and by extension, the 46th part of nabuwa as stated in the hadith referenced by Empiree. So why do some deny this? What is wrong with some people?

One username, which I can't remember for if I do I'll mention him, on here deridingly asked "from who"(sic), when Empiree wrote that dreams are a means of receiving messages.

It was in the mid 2000s, when my big bro was going through hell on earth. As a jaye jaye that he was, he was broke and only lived on his past street credibility as a tough guy.

There was an alfa - a younger brother of his intimate friend, in fact, they all lived together at the time, who told my bro of a baba alawo who comes to Lagos once every few months to help people after my bro asked if he knew any strong baba who could make him agbo iba or something . He took him there; but while this alfa left them alone, my bro changed the subject and told the baba what he really wanted was "ogun owo" (money ritual), and baba said it was no big deal and that he'd done for many people, even popular ones. I should just conclude the story here with the dream part but, for those who think there's no such thing no dey deceive ya self oo...

The baba gave him four options to choose from: 1) He'd be made a bathing soap, which he'd use but must not come in contact with his eyes or he goes blind. 2) It would be made for him such whenever he thought of spending some money, all he had to do was just to dip his hand in his pocket with the intention of the amount he wants, and he'd bring out the the exact amount but must return from the money into his pocket, everything must be spent or...... I don't know. 3) He'd make a box (a small coffin, to be precise) and keep in his wardrobe. And says every morning he would find the box filled with money which must be emptied, and that the money coming next day must not meet that which was found in the box the previous day, so wherever he was he must go home to empty the money -filled coffin. 4) He'd get a piece of land, with the view to developing in it, dig a well in it and slaughter a ram in the well once every year. And the baba said, even after my bro's passing his children must continue that tradition like that yearly. The baba asked him to come back after two weeks and said he would go back to his village to get the ingredients for the ritual because they could not be got in Lagos

He didn't tell me the option he chose but said it was not the first option. He said, he'd gone to price his favourite car then and boasted to his fellow drunks at the bar how he was gonna be the first Otunba of Lagos from our state. LOL..

He said, before two weeks had lapsed, one day he got a call from our sister (younger than him) in Abuja, and on the phone, he could feel she very nervous. And she said, "boda mi, mo ma la ala buruku kan si yin" ( my brother, I had a bad dream about you). I dreamed that you went to do money ritual and died in the process or afterwards, I'm not which was it again, but he shaa died in the dream. He said, he was deflated and confused simultaneously as he had never told any soul about it, and was sure it was no just dream but a message through his sister.
He never went back to the baba and never told our sister about his botched money-ritual plan, unless he's planning on doing so on the morrow.

Thus, if you're not blessed with dreams do not doubt that there are so many out there who are. They may not even be Muslims. As a matter of fact, this same sister saw my father died about three months before his actual death. She said she cried for days after the dream and prayed about it but she knew our father was going to die anyway.

My dreams mean shiit, and prefer it that way, but I don't go around disputing people's dreams when they say they have got the gift of dream. Mine is, however powerful you are, even if you're shaytan, you can never overpower me in my dreams. I could do all sorts of unimaginable things therein. I'm like something else entirely whenever there is an attack, there's hardly ever one though.

We all have our individual differences, mentally, physically, socially, psychologically, and spiritually too. If we accept this fact we'll all be better for it.
movado19, I sight you

movado19:
My brother, I was in nl jail oh! Just got out.

Oh, welcome back oo...

Empiree:
They have glimpses of unseen reality despite claiming disbelieve in them. There are naturally gifted people in the West.

Also think about those astrologers, scientists how they predict the future events. But they tell their citizens that there is no reality beyond this material reality in order to incapacitate their thinking faculties.

That's why they called it secularism.

If you read a particular book written by Albert Pike, I don't remember its title now, have read about predictive programming you will understand some of the reasons why some of us always have a good laugh at Nairaland' God-haters a.k.a atheists. Oyinbo have got masters in spirituality, but are in a low key.

movado19, shey you travel ni?

emekaRaj:
U get it..... D American movies try wen it comes to portraying this characters, wich makes me wonder how did they get the idea about their looks

The whites have got masters in esoterics. Most of their top politicians and top business men belong to one school of mysteries or another. Abi you think say when OTO founder, Aleister Crowley, came up with sex magick (with k) na normal sex?

Empiree:
As for Ifa, from what I have studied overtime was that ifa practices centuries ago was simply innocent. It is scientific fact God endowed Yoruba people but unfortunately, down the road centuries ago Yoruba corrupted and turned into deities which is what it is today. So today, ifa is no longer innocent. It is shirk because there is no way someone would consult ifa priests without them praising and rendering Allah's Attributes to their deities. Which contravene Islamic Sharia code in section 165 of Surah Al-Baqara and 48 of An-Nisa. So there is no reason for any muslim to encourage ifa even in speech. This was the mistake ikupakuti fell into but he's not here to defend himself. Therefore, it is unfair to persecute in his absence.

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I did not persecute ikupakuti ooo.. I only wrote that
"I disagree" with him.
Of course, he might be right about ifa being corrupted over the centuries. Wallahu allam

Excel70:
ALLAHU AKBAR
May ALMIGHTY ALLAH reward all the contributors to this thread. I have been a silent follower of this thread for a long and honestly gained a lot.
I can understand emekaraj stance on not revealing personal spiritual experiences.From personal experience it leads to setback and battles even when you tell a person you love dearly.
I will try to relate some experiences which relate to wordly affairs despite my busy schedule.
Wallahi we muslims don't know the value of what we have. A muslim should always be the frontrunner and pacesetters wherever we are.

Ma sha Allah.
We are waiting to read them as you share

YUNGCONCEPT11:
Currently a friend of mine has a pastor who is peddli g him for asiri .
The pastor is based in Abuja
My friend say he always beg him not to reveal it's identity.
Even the Alfa that thought me kewu during my teenage years once told me. There is pastor who used to come to him.
Islam is the only way to salvation
ALLAHU AKBAR

As I said before, these people will go anywhere for miracle-hunting. A few days ago, one Alagba ijo came to the babalawo I just wrote about to consult ifa after which he carried sacrifices to the Esu shrine in the man's house. This one no be dem say, na wetin I witnessed. If you have experienced certain things you will understand why some take religious people, especially Muslims and Christians, for mumu.

Empiree:
^^

So sad.

What aadoiza said up there i have repeatedly said for years now that we have our spiritual path in islam. Bcus we are now abandoning this beautiful heritage is the reason some muslims think we dont have phenomena in islam. As a result, they turned to christianity seeking "miracles" that dont exist there. All those ex-muslims you see in christianity today are not christians out of conviction. Rather they converted to christianity for worldly gains and confusion. As for those "sufi Alfa" going to babalawo, they are the very reason the alawo so bold today. They are simply lazy that's why they went through shortcut. And Allah will call them to account for that.

The alawos are so annoyingly bold these days. No thanks to those lazy and ignorant and shameless alfas. They will even say stupid things like "awon alfa yin gan odowa lon wa" that statement dey vex me.
A most weird thing happened one day for this babalawo's place. One man came to this baba for ifa consultation. He covered his his with a scarf and upon entering, the baba closed all doors and windows of his living room, which was very unusual, that was the first and only time I have witnessed such in his house. When this mysterious man left, the baba told his children the man is a popular Muslim and had come to consult ifa on why his business had been failing since he returned from Hajj. Experiences such as this are the reason I disagree with ikupakuti on ifa divination. I know these ufa people well, in fact, I'm typing from their house right now. Haa!! But it's not what you think.
Oga Empiree, can you guess what ifa revealed as being the reason for his failing biz?



Ifa told him that when he went for Hajj, he had cast out Esu from his life by throwing pebbles at shaytan and that Esu is responsible for bringing money. And ifa recommended that he goes back for Hajj the second time, but this time he would not observe that tradition of casting stone at shaytan. Whether he did or not, I don't know.
These are some of the reasons these alawos think they are real deal because some supposedly respected Muslims go to them.

movado19:
"iwe account"
There's nothing we won't hear or see!
Isn't it amazing how some muslims run (sometimes secretly) in their direction while some of then run towards Muslims, even if secretly too?

One day (about 2 years ago), I was shown in a dream a very popular pastor woman; by those "messengers" - they always come in two or threes.
I don't know this woman in anyway, have never met her, never spoken to her, etc. I just know that she is very popular as per mega church with her husband.
They presented her and they were telling me that she recites ayatul kursi before every service because she knows the importance of that ayah!!!!!
They also said no one in her congregation knows she does this and she tells no one about it.
They presented her in an accusatory manner as one would a criminal (I guess because she is leading people astray?).
The dream finished and I was baffled as to why I would see her to begin with?
I decided to do a small investigation and asked who knew her for a while and all I heard was "ah! omo alfa!"
Say what? They all said that she grew up in a very Islamic home and her dad was an alfa, etc. That her husbad too grew up in a very religious and islamic home.
I don't know why she was presented or shown to me in a dream to begin with, but I do know that the deception out there is on a massive scale now.
Everytime I see her or her husband on a billboard, I just whisper to myself - omo alfa! ayatul kursi!

Relatives in Abuja have made mention to me of some people who sell zamzam water telling them that their number 1 customers are christians!
They said the christians told them that zamzam water is filled with power and they use it for their "holy water" - of course they won't mention it to the mass congregation.

Another one mentioned to me that happens every Ramadan (last ten nights) is that some pastors will be asking their congregation? "Which favours of your Lord will you deny" and they will answer in mass chorus, "None"!!! Repeatedly like a chant/zikr.
Surah Rahman - (repeated 31 times)
See how engaging they are with that verse by replying none? Even we Muslims just repeat it and move on without pondering upon the reasons for repetition.
That they stay vigil all those ten nights! Some naming those days as "nights of miracles and power".
Meanwhile, some of us are asleep after stuffing our bellies.
We are quick to ask to see hadith to show proof. Buhari and Muslim did not say XYZ in their books, etc.
We accuse others of not following the Salafis.
We are quick to accuse others of being Kaafirs.
They are quietly appropriating our heritage and we are shamelessly swimming in the ocean of ignorance.
May Allah help us all.

Once they lay their hands on "iwe account", you'll hear them say mofe si office (I want to open an office). Jalabi don start be that..
Christians approaching alfas for spiritual matters should not be surprising because they are always on a miracle-hunting mission.
That my father's alfa, I wrote about, wrote antu for an ailing Christian guy one time. The guy's people had tried many options before but got better after taking the antu for some time. When this man was up and running, he returned to the alfa to thank and then told him he was actually a pastor and that he didn't know Islam had such power. This guy proposed to the alfa to write antu for him which he would be using heal his the sick among his congregation and the proceeds from the business would be split 50-50 between him and the alfa, who said no to the ridiculous proposition and that he would not aid their false religion.
So, as far as Christians are concerned they will queue at your doorstep, movado19, if you're willing to give them miracles.

movado19:
Imagine that! The contrast between the babas of old and the ones who claim to know it all now is really telling!

I'm ashamed at us modern Muslims. We are only good at quoting ahadith. Nothing more.
Many years ago a man ran to the alfa of my late father's alfa to complain to him about a land dispute. A church had taken or wanted to take his piece of land from him, and the alfa asked to be taken there. On getting there the alfa said some prayers which included the all powerful Surah Ya Sin. After the prayers, the alfa said to the man that the church would develop that land for him and they left. A few months gone, the church came knocking and apologised to the man for trespassing and promised to build a house on the disputed land for him, which they did.
I doubt any of these modern alfas could put the Quran to such practical use. In fact, some sufi alfas now go to babalawos to get what they call "iwe account". Some go to babalawos for spiritual help. As in....

I always feel bad when all these babalawos think they got it all. They threaten Muslims with their juju and we shamefully cow into our homes. Where are the babas of old, awon alfa zumura (alfa aweri) , aah!!!! There is/was not a babalawo who dare(d) to look them in the faces, they would burn (as in literally) where they stand. This is no myth or legend for it has happened before. Egun was burning in the full glare of the public after an alfa zumura recited something. But all these juju people no dey allow person rest again just because we've lost our ways. We urgently need to retrace our steps OR......

YUNGCONCEPT11:
I am a living testimony of Allah swt through this Islam and spirituality. I found myself among the people who criticize tassawuf because I associated with some group of people but Allah swt has been good and helpful to me that whenever am going astray ...he never hesitate to lead me back on track.. Alhamdulilahi robili Alameen.
My mind was looking for answers ! I need clarifications on many issue but who is going to answer my question? Allah swt did is wonderful work again and brought me to Islam and spirituality thread . Alhamdulilahi I got my answers.
ALL THANKS TO MY CREATOR ALLAH SWT FOR HIS UNENDING LOVE.
Sincere gratitude goes to sheik EMPIREE may Allah continue to be with you.
Thanks to Emekaraj, ikupakuti, movado, jamo90, hkana, aadoiza sheik Ladunal and others that I forgot to remember I say Jazakumullahu khairan.
Pls don't get tired mentors in the house because many people are learning and strengthening their faith

Ma Sha Allah