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Wetin Concern JPMorgan here? JPMorgan was suspicious of the money, and reported to the regulators. Nigerian government should invite that Etete guy and former president GEJ over for a cup of coffee.

One divorce case and poof!!! she is richer than Dangote, just like that.

All vaccines are fake and perilous. The only safe vaccine is one that is never taken.

lilianofentse:
like yoh. That's realllll

You don't wanna know.

Only the initiate would understand. The profane would be be like whadaeff...

budaatum:
Ok, a shared union of belief lackers in a deity, then.
Would that do?

Man!!! You should be "The twister". Creative bloke, you are.

naijareferee:
Is it the same coal tar we use. Why the shine

I think say na only me notice am. Na waa oo.

engrpheleeks:
You just made no sense, sorry to say. This singular act of this child does not depict someone who wants to learn. A child that is ready to learn stands out in all in aspect, including morals and decency. I can bet my two testes that this child is a poor student and lacks the zeal to learn. I work as a teacher. Learning in a school is beyond academics. A student is supposed to be well groomed in both knowledge and character. This child here is a clear example of an unserious student who is not ready to learn.

Let us learn to condemn wrong and stop passing blames on these teachers at any slightest misconduct. If I was that teacher, I will discipline the hell out of that child cos he did that on purpose and is not ready to learn.

Whatever.

almarthins:
I tell u, person like wey be 35 i look like 60 yrs nko. Make him dey thank God. Forever young gene dey him blood.

Oga all u need is talk and let dem no say u no be small boy at all. Woman matter na small tin. Honey na money

Your head dey there. I just dey see white hair everywhere these days. He'll thank God for his stature when he's 60

On your profile, you have "cheap dollars for all your orders" written. How cheap? I mean the rate. I need to place an order for a tool in 48hrs.

So na naira den dey spend for Australia. Rada rada

sino:


You see when it is said that these atheists here are foolish, it isn't an assumption, but a fact!

This is an axiom.

proxillin:
U can't even be a christian in Saudi, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Pakistan.

If you do, you just signed your death wishes.

Enough of playing victims. You people are the offenders.

Don't worry. Na you and your family turn next

AutoJoshNIG, how about the mammy water julius berger made a deal with before he could build the bridge?

cephasrockhudds:
Nah!, my balls ain't stick sweet anyway.....

Oh, you wouldn't know if your balls ain't sweet unless you suck'em yourself, which I don't believe you do. Only them okpeke would give you accurate assessments of that, geddit?

cephasrockhudds:
I've been in this world 19 years ago, i've never seen a girl pant before talkless of lying with her, even though I move with so many of them and not because am impotent but because I felt the grieve within when I get to know a girl is deflowered at her early Teenage, when she's nt yet to be.
I think the point is; Youthful Lust (which we see as LOVE)

When I ask them "Why?", all they say " We preparing ahead"
Preparing ahead of what!?
Who's deceiving you?
Why don't you be like the patient that eats the fattest bone, why?

Let's see what the word of God says about this;

Songs of Solomon 8:4
"Young women of Jerusalem, I charge you: do not stir up or >>>awaken LOVE<<< until the appropriate time."
1Corithians.12:9
Says "LOVE must be without hypocrisy. Detest evil; cling to what is good."

1 Corithians 7:1-2
Now in response to the matters you wrote about:
"It is good for a man not to have relations with a woman."
2. But because SEXUAL IMMORALITY is so common, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband"

Please am still young, just put me through where you see am lacking
And please don't insult or use any hate word, is prohibited.

Thank You.

Are you certain no girl is sucking you?

Ho hum!!!

Ho hum! Another customarily insipid and hackneyed back-and-forth.

Jestin:
I supported Atiku in the just concluded election but if for any reason ur lawyer and son in law are found guilty, let them be persecuted accordily

You meant prosecuted, right?

It's gonna take a while for this one to use his britches comfortably

true2god:
You don't give a religious label to human development; human capital development has nothing to do with religion but a government's policy towards science education. No one is against Islam in this thread; people are only skeptical with the claim about Iran being a technology power. It you tell me that Ecuador or Nicaragua are now technologically advanced, I will do a very thorough check before accepting that claim. This has nothing to do with religion.

I absolutely concur with this. But have you read some of the comments from Christians on this? Those unguarded comments coaxed my wording that post of mine that way, even though I was only disappointed in some of my Muslim brothers' comments. Spouting religious drivel should not be mistaken for subjecting the OP's claims to careful scrutiny. They are not synonymous.
And if you know Albaqir well, you'll know he's probably aiming a thinly veiled dig at wahabi Saudi by critically aclaiming the technological advancement of Iran, thus Christians don't even feature among those at whom his dig is aimed.
However, if you still doubt the intolerance shown and, the unnecessary and fierce polemics by your people just open Muslim threads that will be on the front page tomorrow, I assure you that your doubts will be cleared

The assassination of this wonderful character still goes on even after he's long gone.

true2god:
Stop behaving as if Muslims are in a constant state of war with the kafirs. No one introduced any religious angle into the discussion until AlBaqir played the religious card which most of you fell for. The Japanese and the Chinese are not Christians but are globally known as technology power-horses. Stop this victim mentality being played here. If Iran is technologically advanced, as you claim, no one will open a thread for that; the world will see it by the fruits it will produce.

Why don't you go through the hate-filled posts of your people before accusing me of fomenting religious hubbub on here. And whether you believe Iran is among the technological trailblazers or not, it does not change the truth.
You could've fooled me with your presumably disinterested view, but anyone who's spent long enough time on here knows you could never give an objective opinion on Islam.

Albaqir, you see even with all the links you provided to corroborate your claims, your mate here still wishing they were false. SMH

It's understandable why Christians don't want this kind of news on the front page, but when fellow Muslims think along that line it beffudles sound minds.
Kudos to Iran.

Thank you very much Mr sino, for cutting these charlatans to size.
It has been established here that things don't just come to life either by accident or when they simply feel like it, but only do so by a methodic, careful, and well thought-out process. The simple fact that it takes so much time and painstaking efforts and the use advanced technology and ultimately intelligence to do so in a controlled environment (laboratory) very much lends credence to this. As a result, rather than the no-God believers honourably admitting to this one universal truth, they're shamelessly shifting the goal post to "the creator must have been imperfect" drivel.
They thought they could bamboozle us with their quarter knowledge of abiogenesis but got exposed in their botched attempt.
Thank you again, Mr sino.

tintingz:
Everything has a creator, every complex entity has a creator, God who is "complex and something" is part of everything that exist, then he must have a creator!

At least now you have admittedly stated you have a creator; so I can heave a sigh of relief. And you don't sound as absurd as before.
But don't jump the gun; when you meet your creator you can ask who created him, if you've got the cojones. LOL

tintingz:
You're not getting the absurdity in his argument.

- It took the researchers years of experiments to come up with those theories, a non-random event shouldn't take this long of study with different experiments.

- Assuming there's an intelligent being, the unknown intelligent being behind abiogenisis is imperfect and not all-knowing.

When a computer needs to be updated in version and model, it depict an imperfect designer and design.

If you have problems with an all-knowing, all-perfect creator simply state so. Your denying having an intelligent creator has never portrayed you smart in any way.
Everything around you has got a creator. Thus they didn't come by as a result of some inexplicable randomness you and your cohorts are imagining, but by sheer planning, design, and cause. Then how can you, the most complex of all things around, be from randomness? It's just too absurd. Not even abiogenesis will camouflage this ridiculousness.

sino:
You need not be informed how a computer was invented before you believe that it was, and it would be foolish of you even if you do not understand the processes and mechanism of how it was invented to start arguing that it came to be by random chance. So far, the experiments you hold on to are quite showing the impossibility of these nonliving chemicals to just come together by chance and become a living organism, without any intelligence directing it so as to reach the level of complexity we now have, especially in man. That there is a creator of life is quite simple to understand and believe, and it is a universal truth!

This is impressive, sino. This just about summarises the whole shebang. Non-living chemicals don't just come alive without direction by intelligence. He's just proven that for us
The guy is in a habit of shooting himself in the foot. And he's done it again. If he's a quarter as smart as he thinks he will have seen his numerous gaffes in his equally numerous comments on here.
I admire your patience, bro.

Empiree:
Fighting for God?. Nope. Simply highlighted to you how God dammed those guys with their hate.

To be fair, Western media promotes atheism than religion. But my emphasis was post 9/11 anti Islam rhetoric. They promoted anti-Islam far more worse than they do Christianity post 9/11 to the point of sending many muslims to long term jail on false premises. How many Christians have been jailed for their belief in the West?.

And the so called Al-Jazeera is not Islamic. It is a CNN sister's station. Modern agenda is to bend religion to fit their trash. And if you don't bend they label you all sorts of things. And Islam is the only religion that refuses to bend its kneels. This makes Islam stands out. CHRISTIANITY has long bent it's kneels.

You're spot on on this. Their fight is against religion not Islam per se. Their antics don't fool me. Stupid Christians always think the West is fighting for them. They only hell bent on spreading atheism for a reason. That's one helluva topic on its own.

Empiree:
Qur'an already answered this Q2:141.

And history wont repeat itself if people would abide by simply instruction Q3:103

This ayah had already been revealed before some righteous sahaba decided to wreak havoc on the surface of the earth.
If the best of us, those to whom we will never be able to measure up, those who had the first-hand experience with rosool, those who had absolute certainty in the divinity and better understanding of the holy quran, could ignore Allah's counsel in the said ayah and more and, went as far as did some unspeakable evil, how then could we fare better than they did? Most of us don't know what they did, those who do would rather we kept hushed about their atrocities.
It's better they are not portrayed as saints but rather as regular, OK people who were also prone to messing up big time.

Empiree:
I understand. And fair enough. U can't blame Alfas back then. Even they knew, it wasn't proper to teach kids beyond literature they could comprehend.

For instance, they used to teach us, and memorized lots of small small ahadith that are relate to good things like "do unto others what you do to yourself" etc. They did not teach us in-depth marriage life of the prophet (saw). And usually they did not teach beyond battle of badr when it was subject of j!had. We can't blame them. Our brain could not absorb then what we know now. And also understand that, what we read in the books or heard about them could as well have been manipulated since we were not there at the time.

There were many amongst sahaba who knew little or nothing. We today know a lot more than them Islamically. We read more books and that was because they did not have this luxury have. But the reason we can not meet their standards is simply because they met the prophet (saw) and struggled with him. This is something we can not attain. Because of this, regardless how great a waliy is in our time can never match standards of sahaba.

For this, they earned our respect. We should not speak ill of them nor curse them.

I think you're right. But they should have planted it in our subconscious that however good and perfect some individuals might appear to be they'll still have the ever-lurking Hyde persona in them.
Now what happened to those who never went to madrasa, many of whom I have got around, they'd die never knowing the atrocities some of their revered predecessors committed, which I don't think is fair. At least they are old enough to handle the truth. This "don't go there" attitude is bound to fail sooner or later.
All we're asking is tell us their good and bad sides, and then show to us they were, after all, humans too. Not hoarding information about them. Abi Islam na esoteric society? Where certain knowledge are kept secret from the majority of its members.
If we don't learn from our history we are doomed to repeat it.

I don't speak ill of them nor do I curse them.

Empiree:
Thought provoking. It is good to learn their history truthfully. I am heartbroken reading your highlighted part.

However, I maintained that they must be respected still regardless for as long as we see them as Muslims. Otherwise, everyone would be insulting sahaba all the time. And whatever mistakes we see in them should be only used for educational purposes not mockery and insult.

As aadoiza rightly said, it is very bad and very unfortunate to learn about sahaba from nonmuslims especially if you're not firmly grounded. You could easily sway. Imam Ahmad ibn Hambal(ra) simply did not want to cause schisms in the ummah was probably the reason he summoned muslims to respect and honor them regardless of their shortcomings.

Remember that Allah will not ask any of us about the actions of each sahabi and generations before us. Their accounts are with Him(SWT).

I always respect your views, Empiree, even on this i still do. But you should know that some of us never had the luxury of having Islamic scholars in our families. Even the ile kewu wey we go na jeko jeko. And as a result, we only had access to a handful of Islamic materials prescribed by our Alfas. The materials and their sermons/preaching were our only sources of furthering our knowledge of Islam. Take note that information was not as widespread back then.
So, everything I'd ever heard or read of the sahaba were good things. They were sold to us like they couldn't do no wrong. Like they were the best set of people to walk on the surface of the earth. In fact, I don't have the right words or phrases to describe the goodness I thought these people exuded.
And then, of a sudden, some random non-Muslim made what I thought was serious allegations against my heroes. I thought he was crazy and at the same he provoked in me inquisitiveness. Hardly had I dug deep, before I was gobsmacked at a most harrowing truth that was laid before my curious eyes. I was gutted. I was disgusted. I was shattered. Do you know what that could do to one's psyche, Empiree? I believed these people were saintly for most of my life, man. You no go understand.
Nevertheless, I stopped hating them already. But I doubt I could ever hold them in much reverence as I used to. When their names are mentioned these days my head no dey swell again. Unlike then, my big head would literally swell. I have tried to force the swelling a few times but....
I will however continue to respect them for one thing: for dumping whatever the prevalent belief system was at the time and accepting Islam. E no easy to do.